Ok I didn't watch the video and so I don't know exactly what was said and I don't approve of racism, but I get the understanding that the school is punishing kids for speech that did NOT occur on school grounds? If so then that seems like a bit of overreach to me and the kids might actually have a 1st Amendment case against the school system.

If by getting away with it you mean that their actions will live on the internet forever then you're right.

I don't get the impression that it occurred on school grounds, but some behaviors are prohibited off campus. I just double-checked our county's student handbook to verify, and yeah, off-campus behavior is mentioned. I'm sure the district's lawyers signed off on that long ago. And the spokesperson who talked with the media said that the students were disciplined in accordance with the Code of Conduct that students and parents sign off on at the beginning of the year.


FWIW, if they played any sports, Northwest has even broader language about on and off campus behavior in its code of conduct for its athletes.

Longer version on WorldStar...


Sparking Outrage: Two Ignorant Northwest Guilford Students Caught On Snapchat Being Extremely Racist! | Video

Bong Hits 4 Jesus would be relevant to that question:

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The "Bong Hits 4 Jesus" event was held at a school event and I can understand the jurisdiction. But are schools allowed to police speech on social media? If so then what is to stop them from policing ALL speech made by a student?

If people are going to sue schools and if the courts are going to hold them liable when they don't, then they have the jurisdiction. It's a no win situation.

Your Rights: Student Social Media Rights | ACLU of Northern CA

Long story short: it depends

EDIT: it's the ACLU of No Cal, but I'm sure this holds up more or less across the country.

I would like to think she was off her meds or had an extremely stressful day but that still would not justify her behavior.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/14/us/ny...est/index.html

Sometimes people are just fucking evil and I can't imagine what kind of stressful day would cause this.

I often wonder if these type of people are more emboldened now, or if the instant ability of normal people to make everything news is just exposing this vileness more. The answer is likely somewhere in between.

Generally I try to stay away from making huge overtures against Fox and the people they sell as important. But every now and then, something needs to be said.

It looks like Tucker Carlson is really swinging hard for that KKK vote. I also know that it's generally considered poor form to bring Hitler into the discussion, however, when you're actually saying immigrants are making the country dirtier, you're doing the exact same thing that Hitler did regarding the Jews.

It's a kind of language and speech that should have no place in our society. If he cannot be stopped from saying it in public, he should at least be punished socially and professionally and regarded to the dumpheap of humans that perpetrated actual acts on who they considered the 'lesser' class of society.

Fox News Host Tucker Carlson Says Immigration Is Making America 'Dirtier' | HuffPost

I guess this belongs here since antisemitism is a form of racism.

For a Dr/Resident that went to school in the US to retain this hate (understandable, have to give her a pass) but yet be so public and showing such levity as a Dr is sad.

Anti-Semitic U.S. doctor tweeted that she would 'purposely give Jews the wrong medications' | Daily Mail Online

I've not seen the PBS special so some things may have (or not) been taken out of context. Apparently he said more, and not just about intelligence, in 2007 and prior so there is a pattern.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/13/healt...ntl/index.html

From what I've read, there is evidence that intelligence is partially hereditary. One article from Scientific American said 50% https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ce-hereditary/ is based on genes and remainder on environment (nature vs nurture). That % and be up or down but a large component of intelligence is based on the luck of the draw.

I think if he said something to the effect of ....

"... a large part of intelligence is based on your genes but there are other environmental factors that also come into play", he would have been okay.

On the other hand, was this ambush journalism to bring up this subject again with a 90 year old man? I think yes.

Sorry to see him fall so far.

Uhhh, the rest of the article paints a very different picture than the one your post does, IMO:



Maybe this was a last straw for this lab deciding that honorary titles given to a piece of shit human being even if he was part of one extremely important thing.

Noted and agree per my second sentence.

I thought these posts would be about Rep Steve King. Doing Iowans proud!

Yeah, him too.

Watson is somewhat more sympathetic to me primarily because of his accomplishments.

Really?

So being a racist is based on sliding scale with one's accomplishments?

Certainly a factor to consider when judging someone isn't it?

Charles Lindbergh.....go!

Not impressed. Let's go way back to the Founding Fathers and such who had slaves.

George Washington & Thomas Jefferson .... go!

Ghandi...go!!!

Thought you were joking but ... damn TIL.

There are probably more racist folks than not worldwide.

No. Not when it comes to someone's racist views.

You're probably right. But discerning between racism and old fashioned nationalism is very hard to distinguish, which seems to be where we are at in most of our modern discussions in the trump thread. It does lead into modern conversations that the US has been trying to have for generations, via the expansion of globalization where cultures blend, cooperate and learn about one another. Hiding behind walls like scared kids is exactly what got us into world wars of the past. Trying to learn and appreciate other cultures, and encouraging them to tolerate and learn about yours is the entire genesis of the discussion on racism and nationalism. And why it's important to keep open dialogues with countries that we aren't allies with. It's not the whole solution to the puzzle, but it's an important piece no doubt.

We'll agree to disagree.

IMO there are differing levels, mitigating factors, accomplishments, patterns, what they have experienced etc. when judging someone and severity of their "crimes" ... and compare with others to get a sense of scale/degree of their "crime".

I think a person's negatives don't cancel their achievements, but their achievements don't lessen or negate their negatives. A person can be a great scientist and a racist at the same time.

With Watson, though, there are some serious questions about how much discovery was his and how much he got credited for the work of others.

I find this take pretty weird and quite dangerous.


Agreed.

I just think there are differing levels/degrees of being a racist. And I do believe there can be acceptable mitigating circumstances to explain it (not accomplishment specific).

Otherwise, you are condemning a bunch of folks worldwide who are "racist".

Let's agree on the definition of racism if we want to continue this discussion so we are not talking past each other.

If you have another definition, please reference it.

racism - Dictionary Definition : Vocabulary.com

I think I'll pass on this conversation. I don't think it will be particularly fruitful or enlightening. I am pretty comfortable condemning a bunch of folks worldwide who are racist.

That said, don't you find it a bit odd that the chosen definition includes an example where "Japanese" and "German" are some how considered races as opposed to, say, nationalities?

I think either of these definitions would be more succinct and accurate:

Racism | Definition of Racism by Merriam-Webster

racism | Definition of racism in English by Oxford Dictionaries

Okay, no problem.

Beats me why the Japanese and German were used as examples.

I didn't watch the episode but based on what I read in the article, pretty true statement I agree with. I think where he failed is speaking only about Hispanics, it really applies to other immigrants so he should have broadened the context. (As we discussed earlier, the next generation born in the US will assimilate much better)

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/27/media...ess/index.html

I did a little more research and the better quote is

Tom Brokaw Apologizes For ‘Meet The Press’ “Brown Grandbabies” Remark | Deadline

Its a little weird that CNN did not provide more of the quote.

There are some criticisms quote also. One implies Brokaw is a racist for saying this. This I disagree with.

There's no evidence that Hispanics are assimilating more slowly than past waves of immigrants. It has always taken time and multiple generations.

White Detroit cop uses Black History Month Snapchat filter to mock woman whose car he impounded, made walk in negative temps - Chicago Tribune

And the Northam stuff, but Ben already broke that story. :)

Looks like Jussie Smollet is turning out to be the real racist here

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/16/enter...ack/index.html

Can't say that surprised me...that story sounded fishy from day 1

I know racially motivated hate crime is still alive and well but holy shit that story was nonsensical. Like someone gets hatecrimey enough to beat you and pour bleach on you and tie a noose on you...youre dead.

I absolutely fucking hate people like this Smollett tool. Every time one of these fuckwads does something like this it sets humanity back as a whole because it sets discourse back as well. Then we bitch about the controversy for weeks.

I think Kamala Harris needs to be investigated as part of this whole thing. It seems extra convenient that her completely unnecessary anti lynching vanity bill got passed just a couple days ago on the heels of this fuckheads story. She seems likely to be involved in the planning of it, and if so, should be shunned accordingly by voters if she doesn't outright step down. I'm so goddamned tired of the "leaders" we have in the world today. Most of them aren't leaders at all, just money junkies following the dollar.

Pretty much no ok ne in Chicago believed it. The idea that this group of Trump supporters were camping out in -20 windshield in hopes he would go out at 2am for Subway is comical.

This is also a nice area with cameras everywhere. The fact they couldn't find this or the suspects on it at all was the kicker.

Fuck this guy for blowing police resources we actually need.

And he hired two Nigerians to do it. Even the hate crimes are being outsourced to minority immigrants now.

On a more basic level, knowing nothing of the area, I just couldnt figure out who walks around with rope. Specifically with rope tied into a noose.



I mean unless someone planned and set out to commit this crime, which in that case you have to expect the outcome to be more grave, the weapon would usually be one of opportunity...and you dont typically just walk around with rope. And the person with enough hate in their heart to leave the house set on beating a man and pouring bleach on him...and in possession of a noose. Well I expect that person would take things farther.

Alabama newspaper calls for the return of the KKK-to clean up Washington and remove the Democrats and Democrats in the Republican party who are planning to raise taxes in Alabama again:


https://wpde.com/news/nation-world/a...kkk-02-19-2019

This is not surprising in Alabama. And the editorial came from the editor and publisher. I wonder if trump will voice his support for the first amendment now?

Exactly, you don't go to that level of mayhem preparation without having intent to inflict more than just a couple of bruises. I still can't wrap my head around why this selfish motherfucker would do this and use his "platform" to marginalize the victims of true hate crimes. Shit like this erases any strides we do make as a society and only emboldens the racist fucks that still walk among us.

He is worse than a racist to me in many ways, exploiting real social problems/injustices for sympathy and his own benefit. He deserves the cliff his career is going to fall off of.

A Lt in the Coast Guard. Read through the Twitter thread. Appears to be a domestic terrorist who was planning to do some terrible things.

A @gwupoe scoop: A LT in the US Coast Guard was arrested this week for drug and gun charges. It looked like a run of the mill case until the detention memo filed yesterday. He had a hit list, contacts with white supremacists, guns, and, again, was an Coastie assigned to HQ.

— Seamus Hughes (@SeamusHughes) February 20, 2019

Good god. pic.twitter.com/2ZtI87z1pH

— Ed Bott (@edbott) February 20, 2019

There's kind of an unspoken code between prosecutors, defense attorneys, and judges. When a prosecutor is making a good-faith but debatable argument for a higher bond or pretrial detention, he or she might use phrases like "danger to the community." But when the stakes are truly higher and you need the threat to stand out among all the other threats a judge has to evaluate on a daily basis, you (as rarely as possible to maintain credibility) - use language that jumps off the page like that.

"on a scale rarely seen in this country" is a poignant choice of word.

Chesterfield police chief recommends officer be fired after alleged link to white supremacist group | Crime, Police & Fire | richmond.com

Oh yeah - and he's a resource officer at a majority-minority school.