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ISiddiqui 11-30-2017 03:39 PM

The South Florida stuff definitely helped. He was also the only person it seemed in the entire country that thought Rutgers could be a top tier team. I remember (I was at Rutgers when he was hired) thinking he was a complete moron and he'd be fired or leave in 3 years and I was by far in the majority in thinking that.

Edward64 11-30-2017 03:40 PM

AR found its AD. Now for the HC

https://www.seccountry.com/arkansas/...letic-director
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FAYETTEVILLE, Ark. — The University of Arkansas will hire Derrick Gragg as its next director of athletics, according to multiple reports. He would be the permanent replacement for Jeff Long, who was fired Nov. 15 after nearly a decade as the Razorbacks’ athletic director.

Gragg, 48, has been the athletic director at Tulsa since 2013. He served as an associate and senior associate athletic director at Arkansas from 2000 to 2006. He’s also previously served as athletic director at Eastern Michigan University (2006-2013) and assistant athletic director at Michigan (1997-2000).

GrantDawg 11-30-2017 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 3186413)
The South Florida stuff definitely helped. He was also the only person it seemed in the entire country that thought Rutgers could be a top tier team. I remember (I was at Rutgers when he was hired) thinking he was a complete moron and he'd be fired or leave in 3 years and I was by far in the majority in thinking that.



So it is mostly an administration issue that keeps the program down. I thought I'd heard that before, but the memory is not what it used to be.

Ok, so now think seriously, "How would Schiano fit in Tennessee?" Correct me, but this is what I'm seeing. He overcame a lackadaisical administration, pulled from a college hot bed from previous connections, to find moderate success in a pretty weak conference (sorry Big East apologist). Tennessee has a very hands on administration that has nearly unlimited resources that needs a guy that not so much pulls in talent, but knows how to coach them up to the next level. Not seeing how he'd have success there. He screams small school to me.

GrantDawg 11-30-2017 03:58 PM

And since I'm on a roll.....

I have the perfect coach for Tennessee: Todd Grantham.

He can get you big name recruits. Names all over the field. Teams will run the ball on you at will, but look at those names! And after a couple of years, once you are ready to fire him, he'll somehow get a job offer for $2 dollars more somewhere else and you could get a real coach to do something with all that talent.

ISiddiqui 11-30-2017 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3186416)
So it is mostly an administration issue that keeps the program down. I thought I'd heard that before, but the memory is not what it used to be.

Ok, so now think seriously, "How would Schiano fit in Tennessee?" Correct me, but this is what I'm seeing. He overcame a lackadaisical administration, pulled from a college hot bed from previous connections, to find moderate success in a pretty weak conference (sorry Big East apologist). Tennessee has a very hands on administration that has nearly unlimited resources that needs a guy that not so much pulls in talent, but knows how to coach them up to the next level. Not seeing how he'd have success there. He screams small school to me.


I would point out that it can easily be said that he has coached up his defenders to the next level as DC for Miami and Ohio State. And wasn't that basically the reason to hire Kirby Smart as head coach of UGA?

GrantDawg 11-30-2017 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 3186422)
I would point out that it can easily be said that he has coached up his defenders to the next level as DC for Miami and Ohio State. And wasn't that basically the reason to hire Kirby Smart as head coach of UGA?


Part of it, but a long way from all of it. He was Nick Saban's right hand man, a recruiter with deep ties in the south, and played football at Georgia.

ISiddiqui 11-30-2017 04:46 PM

Hell, speaking of coaching up to the next level, 10 Rutgers players (who played under Schiano) are in the NFL today... which... still pretty surprising.

CrescentMoonie 11-30-2017 06:01 PM

Schiano feels like he would be the perfect hire for someone like Baylor or Illinois.

HerRealName 11-30-2017 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3186416)
So it is mostly an administration issue that keeps the program down. I thought I'd heard that before, but the memory is not what it used to be.

Ok, so now think seriously, "How would Schiano fit in Tennessee?" Correct me, but this is what I'm seeing. He overcame a lackadaisical administration, pulled from a college hot bed from previous connections, to find moderate success in a pretty weak conference (sorry Big East apologist). Tennessee has a very hands on administration that has nearly unlimited resources that needs a guy that not so much pulls in talent, but knows how to coach them up to the next level. Not seeing how he'd have success there. He screams small school to me.


About those unlimited resources, I saw yesterday that Tennessee's endowment was $1.1B. Purdue's endowment is at $2.5B. Tennessee empasizes football a great deal more but I was surprised at the difference.

RainMaker 11-30-2017 06:28 PM

I actually think Tennessee would be better off bringing in an up-and-comer instead of some tired rehash who the game has passed by.

Like I know it wouldn't be a sexy hire but Satterfield from App State would be good for them. Guy seems ahead of the curve for what's going on in college football.

General Mike 11-30-2017 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 3186427)
Hell, speaking of coaching up to the next level, 10 Rutgers players (who played under Schiano) are in the NFL today... which... still pretty surprising.


Those guys weren't 4 and 5*s either. Schiano got a lot out of the 2 and 3*s he had. Schiano had a lot of WTF losses in his time at Rutgers, but he also got Rutgers to be more than the laughingstock of college football.

CU Tiger 11-30-2017 09:01 PM

If Im UT, I call Justin Fuentes agent and say what's stupid, can't say no money.
Then I offer him 500k more than whatever number I hear.

Or if I want a quick short fix, I call Petrino, hold my nose a sign the deal

CrescentMoonie 11-30-2017 09:14 PM

Why would anyone leave VT for UT? Fuente would have to be crazy to do that.

molson 11-30-2017 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger (Post 3186455)

Or if I want a quick short fix, I call Petrino, hold my nose a sign the deal


But Tennessee fans will only accept someone of the highest moral integrity.

CU Tiger 11-30-2017 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie (Post 3186456)
Why would anyone leave VT for UT? Fuente would have to be crazy to do that.


I didn't say I'd take it if I was Fuente.. But you have an AD that will survive the weekend. He is getting desperate. I'd offer 10mm per to Fuente. He'd win a natty there.

Atocep 11-30-2017 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger (Post 3186460)
I didn't say I'd take it if I was Fuente.. But you have an AD that will survive the weekend. He is getting desperate. I'd offer 10mm per to Fuente. He'd win a natty there.


A&M may be dropping over $100 million to land Jimbo so it wouldn't be too absurd.

Chief Rum 11-30-2017 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mauchow (Post 3186364)
What the ... lmao


So who is Kiffin talking to? I feel like the punchline of the joke was withheld from me.

Atocep 11-30-2017 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 3186463)
So who is Kiffin talking to? I feel like the punchline of the joke was withheld from me.


Erik Ainge

dawgfan 11-30-2017 10:46 PM

Mike Leach to Tennessee?

If that happens, every SEC DC should watch the film from the last four Apple Cups to see how to defend his offense.

Atocep 11-30-2017 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan (Post 3186466)
Mike Leach to Tennessee?

If that happens, every SEC DC should watch the film from the last four Apple Cups to see how to defend his offense.


I could see this being a disaster worse than Lane Kiffin.

I actually like Leach, but Mike Leach and Knoxville seems like a terrible idea.

MrBug708 11-30-2017 11:14 PM

I think if the Vols land Leach, they'll have done well. I dont think he wins a title, but I think they can get back to competing. That job is better than either the TTU or WSU job.

CrescentMoonie 11-30-2017 11:28 PM

The talent available is better, but the psycho fanbase and boosters are a million times worse. Leach could work at Nebraska if they've settled down after the decline they've seen from the Solich years, but UT seems like a nightmare location for him if he doesn't win the SEC East in the first 2 years.

Chief Rum 11-30-2017 11:40 PM

Leach in Tennessee is like a dream come true... for anyone who wants to be entertained by the drama.

mauchow 12-01-2017 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 3186463)
So who is Kiffin talking to? I feel like the punchline of the joke was withheld from me.


Woops, I've updated my post..good thing we aren't in werewolf.

miami_fan 12-01-2017 08:01 AM

So ahhh.. John Currie gets to keep his job after all? Hmm... interesting.

Logan 12-01-2017 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan (Post 3186483)
So ahhh.. John Currie gets to keep his job after all? Hmm... interesting.


Fired per FootballScoop.

Logan 12-01-2017 08:58 AM



miami_fan 12-01-2017 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan (Post 3186489)
Fired per FootballScoop.


It is that easy me to get a coach fired? I wonder if it works for GMs as well.

;)

Logan 12-01-2017 09:24 AM



It goes round and round.

Warhammer 12-01-2017 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan (Post 3186494)


It goes round and round.


It does not surprise me that he wants the job, but why would they want that lazy fatass to run the program?

bronconick 12-01-2017 09:32 AM

A&M contract for Jimbo is rumored to 7.5 or 8 million per year for ten years.

CU Tiger 12-01-2017 10:14 AM

When your biggest booster is meddling in the search, and is the brother of the majority owner of the Cleveland Browns, I'd think you'd want his advice given his history running a storied and successful NFL franchise...right?

JonInMiddleGA 12-01-2017 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Warhammer (Post 3186495)
It does not surprise me that he wants the job, but why would they want that lazy fatass to run the program?


Ya either love him there, or know that he's an out of touch egomaniac that has a history of shoving people in front of buses.

Chief Rum 12-01-2017 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3186516)
Ya either love him there, or know that he's an out of touch egomaniac that has a history of shoving people in front of buses.


So you're either his family and agent or you're everyone else?

CU Tiger 12-01-2017 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3186516)
Ya either love him there, or know that he's an out of touch egomaniac that has a history of shoving people in front of buses.



Somewhere this evening, Mr. Majors bourbon will taste just a touch smoother and sweeter as this all comes to light.

JonInMiddleGA 12-01-2017 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 3186540)
So you're either his family and agent or you're everyone else?


Phat Phil looks after Phat Phil. First & foremost.

ISiddiqui 12-01-2017 12:45 PM

Looks like Jimbo to A&M is going through:

Jimbo Fisher leaving Florida State to accept coaching job at Texas A&M

MrBug708 12-01-2017 12:48 PM

Biggest job open this year now is the Florida State job. Sounds like Taggert is first up, which means Frost is too far along with Nebraska?

CrescentMoonie 12-01-2017 01:06 PM

What does Oregon do if Taggart leaves? If I'm them, I'm throwing money at someone like Chad Morris.

Logan 12-01-2017 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie (Post 3186559)
What does Oregon do if Taggart leaves? If I'm them, I'm throwing money at someone like Chad Morris.


How about moving quick to tear up whatever tentative deal Frost has with Nebraska?

MrBug708 12-01-2017 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie (Post 3186559)
What does Oregon do if Taggart leaves? If I'm them, I'm throwing money at someone like Chad Morris.


The fans want Leavitt

rjolley 12-01-2017 01:46 PM

Why isn't Kevin Sumlin's name coming up more for the openings? He seemed to do a good job in getting Texas A&M relevant and was able to recruit talent.

JonInMiddleGA 12-01-2017 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rjolley (Post 3186575)
Why isn't Kevin Sumlin's name coming up more for the openings? He seemed to do a good job in getting Texas A&M relevant and was able to recruit talent.


Uh, I believe the reasons that A&M unloaded him -- the inability to get much out of that talent (once he didn't have a generational star) -- would be the obvious reason.

miami_fan 12-01-2017 01:55 PM



Eaglesfan27 12-01-2017 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rjolley (Post 3186575)
Why isn't Kevin Sumlin's name coming up more for the openings? He seemed to do a good job in getting Texas A&M relevant and was able to recruit talent.


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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3186576)
Uh, I believe the reasons that A&M unloaded him -- the inability to get much out of that talent (once he didn't have a generational star) -- would be the obvious reason.


There are also some pretty strong rumors out there that he is as much of a drinker as Sark was at USC.

rjolley 12-01-2017 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3186576)
Uh, I believe the reasons that A&M unloaded him -- the inability to get much out of that talent (once he didn't have a generational star) -- would be the obvious reason.


Yeah, but you could say that about a lot of the names that are being thrown around. The coaching carousel is always interesting with which coach deserves to be retread and which ones don't with the same stated shortcomings.

CrescentMoonie 12-01-2017 01:58 PM

Fisher gets 10 years and $75 million from aTm.

dawgfan 12-01-2017 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708 (Post 3186571)
The fans want Leavitt

Don't be surprised if they end up turning to Justin Wilcox.

miami_fan 12-01-2017 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan (Post 3186578)



What am I missing? He was hired as acting athletic director but signed a 2 year contract? So he will be acting for two years?

RainMaker 12-01-2017 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie (Post 3186582)
Fisher gets 10 years and $75 million from aTm.


That's insane.


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