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jeheinz72 04-27-2009 03:51 PM

Work on Gladhanding

jeheinz72 04-27-2009 03:51 PM

Wanted to get that in, I'll be gone until morning.

Abe Sargent 04-27-2009 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93 (Post 2004619)
Still unsure, when we post what work we want to do do we also post how many units we are going to do or do we always just do 1 unit?


No units, htis isn;t a BK game. ;) You just post that you are doing the work and you will give one man-day of work unless it is an area of specialization

dubb93 04-27-2009 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2004621)

I also have bonus to working in a specific skill, I imagine other villagers do as well, is there a negative for coming out with this information and using it to more properly gage how much work we need on each task?


I think this got lost in the loop and is worth discussing.

Barkeep49 04-27-2009 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent (Post 2004650)
No units, htis isn;t a BK game. ;) You just post that you are doing the work and you will give one man-day of work unless it is an area of specialization

You mock even as you steal my mechanic. That's fine. It's a good mechanic and I am pleased to see someone else using it.

I will Orate.

In case you haven't already noticed.

Danny 04-27-2009 03:56 PM

I think we should consider all posting our area of specialization. What it can do is make it know exactly how many units of work should be completed on a specific job and will show us where and if there is faked work. I'm also guessing (but I am definitely not sure) that wolves do not have an area of specialization and thus the wolves are forced to lie about it or risk having other villagers become trusted.

I want some discussion on this, but I don't see a downside to this yet.

Danny 04-27-2009 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93 (Post 2004651)
I think this got lost in the loop and is worth discussing.


Yeah, and I brought it up again as you were posting.

Barkeep49 04-27-2009 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93 (Post 2004651)
I think this got lost in the loop and is worth discussing.

I did miss it. Thanks dubb. I would argue people with specialization are asking to be wolf fodder, especially if we can keep our act together. Now there might be a good reason later on to reveal, but I can't think of why revealing now would be a good thing for the village. Of course, if such specializations are pretty widespread then I think the point becomes less consequential.

Danny 04-27-2009 03:59 PM

From the rules "All of you have various skills that might come in handy in certain camps and areas. At the end of the day, results will be posted, but not how much work each individual did. At that point, you will know whether or not you were successful."

Abe Sargent 04-27-2009 04:00 PM

I will be out from 5:30 or so until bout 9:30 or so

PurdueBrad 04-27-2009 04:01 PM

Thankfully the wife is running late (as usual).

I will orate

claphamsa 04-27-2009 04:01 PM

gladhandle

vote anxiety!


I have softball, so Ill be gone most of the night :)

Danny 04-27-2009 04:02 PM

lol, no voting today Clap

Barkeep49 04-27-2009 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2004657)
From the rules "All of you have various skills that might come in handy in certain camps and areas. At the end of the day, results will be posted, but not how much work each individual did. At that point, you will know whether or not you were successful."

Ok based on that mass reveal seems good and so I will admit that I'm good at working the Treasury.

Danny 04-27-2009 04:04 PM

I say we go with this as well. I am good at food distribution

For this to really work, hopefully everyone will end up posting theirs as well.

Barkeep49 04-27-2009 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2004664)
I say we go with this as well. I am good at food distribution

For this to really work, hopefully everyone will end up posting theirs as well.

I don't hope. I expect.

EagleFan 04-27-2009 04:07 PM

Since I'm still trying to figure out what is happening I am just going to check in at the moment. My skill is neither of the two today so I will also wait to see how this plays out before I decide upon which to do, or wait to see if a mission is planned and if that would fall in line with my skill better.

USFLTecmo 04-27-2009 04:08 PM

Checking in, and checking out for the night. In bed in a few hours for a really early start at work tomorrow, then back around 10 AM ET. I'll catch up on anything then.

EagleFan 04-27-2009 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2004664)
I say we go with this as well. I am good at food distribution

For this to really work, hopefully everyone will end up posting theirs as well.


Not really sure if this would help anything except giving the "wolves" an idea of who to target.

Barkeep49 04-27-2009 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 2004670)
Not really sure if this would help anything except giving the "wolves" an idea of who to target.

Except since everyone has an ability, and we don't know which days will need which abilities, there's no reason for everyone not to reveal. By revealing we can maximize our utilization and perhaps catch the wolves in a lie. This is how things have worked in my 2 cathedral games and my 3 spawn games. I know of what I speak.

Poli 04-27-2009 04:11 PM

If I recall correctly, I'm really good at searching.

Abe Sargent 04-27-2009 04:11 PM

On December 6, 1907, in the small coal mining town of Monongah, an explosion caused by the igniting of methane tears through the #6 and #8 mines causing a massive collapse and trapping hundred of miners!!!


People are panicking and going every which way. Miners and comapny are unorganized and not responding well.


MISSION -

You may send a # of people to organize the rescue crew and try to rescue the miners trapped by the explosion of the #6 and #8 mines.

Post your entrance to the mission is bold. The mission will process at 3 pm tomorrow afternoon. If you go on the mission, you may not work today.

claphamsa 04-27-2009 04:11 PM

im a gladhandler, whatever the hell that is :)

Danny 04-27-2009 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa (Post 2004679)
im a gladhandler, whatever the hell that is :)


Then you should be working on gladhandling today :)

Barkeep49 04-27-2009 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa (Post 2004679)
im a gladhandler, whatever the hell that is :)

Ok, this is good to know. So you're useful today. Are you 2x 3x 4x 5x more useful than the ordinary person?

Barkeep49 04-27-2009 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poli (Post 2004677)
If I recall correctly, I'm really good at searching.

Presumably this goes to today's mission. So Poli should work on that instead of our conversion.

Abe Sargent 04-27-2009 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa (Post 2004679)
im a gladhandler, whatever the hell that is :)


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Danny 04-27-2009 04:15 PM

I'd like to see us work out who is doing what as a group before anyone decides to go on the mission. If we use our specialization, we can send a max # of people on the mission and force the wolves to fake in order to not complete everything.

Danny 04-27-2009 04:17 PM

So far

BK- Working the Treasury
Danny- Food Distribution
Poli- Searching
Claphamsa- Gladhandling

dubb93 04-27-2009 04:17 PM

I am a good gladhandler. I'm able to do 3x the work that a normal person would perform in this area.

Danny 04-27-2009 04:19 PM

Ok, so if Clap is a 3x, then I believe we should put Clap, Dubb and two others (or one if there is another with that specialization) on Gladhandling and no one else. This frees up a lot of other people for the mission and if a wolf fakes there is a limited selection of players to choose from.

Barkeep49 04-27-2009 04:19 PM

I think people should only reveal specifics when appropriate. So even though we're using Poli's skill today there's no need for detail since we don't know what our ideal # is. Where as dubb and clap seem to be able to perform a majority of our gladhandling work by their lonesome. It would help if clap reveal the specifics of his ability.

Danny 04-27-2009 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 2004689)
I think people should only reveal specifics when appropriate. So even though we're using Poli's skill today there's no need for detail since we don't know what our ideal # is. Where as dubb and clap seem to be able to perform a majority of our gladhandling work by their lonesome. It would help if clap reveal the specifics of his ability.


Agreed

Barkeep49 04-27-2009 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 2004689)
I think people should only reveal specifics when appropriate. So even though we're using Poli's skill today there's no need for detail since we don't know what our ideal # is. Where as dubb and clap seem to be able to perform a majority of our gladhandling work by their lonesome. It would help if clap reveal the specifics of his ability.

And by using Poli's skill I mean Poli should be using his skill to search. Not that this has already been done.

Abe Sargent 04-27-2009 04:23 PM

March 7, 1891 – A law is passed which bans the use of company script as payment for workers. No company or employer is ever prosecuted under this law, that companies flaunt for decades. Company script is token money that can only be used in the company store.

Autumn 04-27-2009 04:27 PM

I don't see a real downside to disclosure either. Well, actually I can think of one. It's possible the Sympathizers have the ability to disrupt our work, possibly by blocking an individual. In that case disclosure would help them. But that seems unlikely enough that catching them in lies will be a much bigger upside.

So, I have a specialty in hunting. I don't think anything that's come up so far will work towards that, so I'll just go wherever we need a number.

Barkeep49 04-27-2009 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2004694)
I don't see a real downside to disclosure either. Well, actually I can think of one. It's possible the Sympathizers have the ability to disrupt our work, possibly by blocking an individual. In that case disclosure would help them. But that seems unlikely enough that catching them in lies will be a much bigger upside.

So, I have a specialty in hunting. I don't think anything that's come up so far will work towards that, so I'll just go wherever we need a number.

Now there's some good thinking. It would suggest that perhaps we don't want to cut it so close.

jeheinz72 04-27-2009 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2004688)
Ok, so if Clap is a 3x, then I believe we should put Clap, Dubb and two others (or one if there is another with that specialization) on Gladhandling and no one else. This frees up a lot of other people for the mission and if a wolf fakes there is a limited selection of players to choose from.


I am also a Gladhander at 3x strength

Poli 04-27-2009 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent (Post 2004678)


Post your entrance to the mission is bold. The mission will process at 3 pm tomorrow afternoon. If you go on the mission, you may not work today.

POLI GOES ON THE MISSION

The Jackal 04-27-2009 04:34 PM

My skill is searching, so I think I should go on the mission. Not sure if that will apply to trapped miners, but it certainly could.

Barkeep49 04-27-2009 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal (Post 2004702)
My skill is searching, so I think I should go on the mission. Not sure if that will apply to trapped miners, but it certainly could.

I have to think it does.

The Jackal 04-27-2009 04:36 PM

GO ON MISSION

dubb93 04-27-2009 04:41 PM

My bsdar is starting to get pinged. Three gladhandlers at this point and not a single other specialty has more than one at this point. I guess we play the wait and see game for everyone to reveal.

Barkeep49 04-27-2009 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93 (Post 2004709)
My bsdar is starting to get pinged. Three gladhandlers at this point and not a single other specialty has more than one at this point. I guess we play the wait and see game for everyone to reveal.

That's not true. I count 5 specialties revealed so far. Who is the third gladhandler?

Abe Sargent 04-27-2009 04:43 PM

Okay, off to my function. See ya all when I get back

jeheinz72 04-27-2009 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 2004711)
That's not true. I count 5 specialties revealed so far. Who is the third gladhandler?


Me, clap and Dubb.

If someone wants to think I'm a wolf for it, fine. But it wasn't coincidence that I was all over asking how to put my action in like white on rice.

Barkeep49 04-27-2009 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72 (Post 2004717)
Me, clap and Dubb.

If someone wants to think I'm a wolf for it, fine. But it wasn't coincidence that I was all over asking how to put my action in like white on rice.

Thanks. Missed your reveal.

Barkeep49 04-27-2009 04:48 PM

So presumably we have 9 out of 8 required units completed there.

dubb93 04-27-2009 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 2004721)
So presumably we have 9 out of 8 required units completed there.


:eek:

I think I'll wait and see if the other ones have 3 people specializing in them too before I assume that is the truth.

path12 04-27-2009 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 2004643)
But it's not so let's not muddy the waters. We might or might not have traditional roles, but I'm inclined to think we've got some form of a bodyguard, seer, duke, etc.


Seems to me that role speculation at this point distracts us from the main issue which is to get this camp converted. I'll trust that any roles we do have are wise and efficient in their duties for now and worry about which ones if any are around later.

Ready to go to work on either mission. I don't think my particular specialty will help either of the two missions.


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