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saldana 01-25-2010 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal (Post 2211361)
You are in a tough spot sal since none of the other 3 candidates are on you at this point


yeah, best i can do is create a tie, but i have no reason to go to either kwhit or darth...there is not the matter of vengence with them like there is with dubb.

saldana 01-25-2010 07:11 PM

dola, i am not inclined to create a tie...i think they are horrible for the village. (cue barkeep telling me that they are good for us at this point)

PurdueBrad 01-25-2010 07:11 PM

Saldana, this usually isn't a great D1 question, but if it were a blank slate, where would you put your vote? The lack of movement has me slightly concerned.

Schmidty 01-25-2010 07:15 PM

Unvote Poli

Vote Darth

CrimsonFox 01-25-2010 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana (Post 2211366)
dola, i am not inclined to create a tie...i think they are horrible for the village. (cue barkeep telling me that they are good for us at this point)


But it would save yourself. ANd with an hour left someone else would break the tie throwing suspicion off you. Do you really not see this or is this an act?

saldana 01-25-2010 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad (Post 2211367)
Saldana, this usually isn't a great D1 question, but if it were a blank slate, where would you put your vote? The lack of movement has me slightly concerned.


dont really know what you are looking for in an answer there since i actually did cast the first vote of the day...i went with dubb for historic reasons (which were refreshed by his gloating PM after last game ;) )...i can say i dont really like his instant defensiveness, which would make me want to vote for him if i already werent, but that is also historic...he plays slightly off the hook all the time to make it hard to read him

PurdueBrad 01-25-2010 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana (Post 2211373)
dont really know what you are looking for in an answer there since i actually did cast the first vote of the day...i went with dubb for historic reasons (which were refreshed by his gloating PM after last game ;) )...i can say i dont really like his instant defensiveness, which would make me want to vote for him if i already werent, but that is also historic...he plays slightly off the hook all the time to make it hard to read him


My bad, I thought you hadn't voted yet. Agree with you on dubb's style though, but it doesn't seem the same as when he and Jackal went back and forth last game.

Lathum 01-25-2010 07:18 PM

Vote Count

DV-4- J23 (100), Dubb (113) MartinD (126) Schmidty (154)
Saldana-4- Spleen (74) Clap (122) Autumn 131 Danny (135)
Kwhit-3- EF (95) RealDeal (127) PB (128)
Dubb-3- Saldana (70) CF (96) Dubb (120)
EF-1-Poli (80)

saldana 01-25-2010 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 2211371)
But it would save yourself. ANd with an hour left someone else would break the tie throwing suspicion off you. Do you really not see this or is this an act?


being relatively new around these parts, you would not have been part of the seemingly endless argument that we have regarding whether or not day one ties are a good thing or not...i have never believed they are.

and if there is one thing that you should have learned about me from last game, it is that I will sacrifice myself for the benefit of the village...i could have easily pardoned myself last game but chose to die in order to save the rest of the village the waste of a day...ive done the same thing before (rome comes to mind), and if i have to today, i will...not trying to be heroic...just my style.

PurdueBrad 01-25-2010 07:22 PM

Ties are not a good thing and I'll push this a bit:

unvote KWhit

vote DarthVilus

CrimsonFox 01-25-2010 07:22 PM

AFter last game I did realize that ties = no wolf AND no knowledge, so yeah I get it.

I still think not using your gov last round was a bad idea. I was the only one really saying to vote for you on two different days and no one was really listening to me last game except for my slutvotes. And if you look now, there is no longer a tie, so don't play martyr anymore, it doesn't help.

PurdueBrad 01-25-2010 07:23 PM

I don't like the three votes on Saldana between 122 and 135 so lets see what this does.

saldana 01-25-2010 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 2211382)
AFter last game I did realize that ties = no wolf AND no knowledge, so yeah I get it.

I still think not using your gov last round was a bad idea. I was the only one really saying to vote for you on two different days and no one was really listening to me last game except for my slutvotes. And if you look now, there is no longer a tie, so don't play martyr anymore, it doesn't help.



if you think that is playing martyr, you ain't seen nothin' yet....wait til people start voting for themselves.

CrimsonFox 01-25-2010 07:25 PM

henry's lurking again! Get him!

Lathum 01-25-2010 07:29 PM

Just a reminder we are using a 24 hour clock so if you have a night action it needs to be submitted by 9:00 PM EST

KWhit 01-25-2010 07:30 PM

For self-preservation:

VOTE DARTH VILUS

CrimsonFox 01-25-2010 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit (Post 2211390)
For self-preservation:

VOTE DARTH VILUS




Um....HUH?!?!?

KWhit 01-25-2010 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 2211392)
Um....HUH?!?!?


What do you mean by that?

CrimsonFox 01-25-2010 07:32 PM

well you have 2 votes and he has 5. YOu aren't in any danger

saldana 01-25-2010 07:32 PM

6-4 darth over sal atm

GoldenEagle 01-25-2010 07:33 PM

I am going to vote for saldana to keep things close.

VOTE SALDANA

KWhit 01-25-2010 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 2211377)
Vote Count

DV-4- J23 (100), Dubb (113) MartinD (126) Schmidty (154)
Saldana-4- Spleen (74) Clap (122) Autumn 131 Danny (135)
Kwhit-3- EF (95) RealDeal (127) PB (128)
Dubb-3- Saldana (70) CF (96) Dubb (120)
EF-1-Poli (80)


Ah. I missed PBs unvote of me and vote for DV.

I thought it was 4-4-3 with me just one vote behind.

saldana 01-25-2010 07:34 PM

one thing that i think we may have forgotten is there is a warlock out there that counts twice, so a one vote margin could also create the tie.

unvote dubb
vote darth

CrimsonFox 01-25-2010 07:35 PM

So just to ask this stupid question, what is the purpose of keeping something so close it could be a tie and ergo no wolf lynch? Just so that people can switch at the last second and affect things?

claphamsa 01-25-2010 07:37 PM

FWIW im here and reading along.....

saldana 01-25-2010 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 2211402)
So just to ask this stupid question, what is the purpose of keeping something so close it could be a tie and ergo no wolf lynch? Just so that people can switch at the last second and affect things?


we try to analyze the movement to see if people are moving off particular people or onto others as a way of rooting out wolves based on their vote history...either moving off to keep someone from lynch or onto someone to make sure particular people dont get lynched.

Danny 01-25-2010 07:41 PM

I'd bet strongly that Darth is a villager and I also think that there is a wolf with multiple votes on them right now which is why Darth is starting to be a run away. My guess is Saldana or Kwhit.

The Jackal 01-25-2010 07:43 PM

Updated count?

Danny 01-25-2010 07:43 PM

The person pinging me the most right now is actually PurdueBrad though.

Danny 01-25-2010 07:43 PM

Pretty sure it is 7-5 Darth and Saldana with Kwhit at 2 and Dubb at 3.

dubb93 01-25-2010 07:44 PM

Who the hell did you vote for Danny? You aren't in Lathum's count.

The Jackal 01-25-2010 07:44 PM

As a note - we want the double vote to make itself apparent as soon as possible, so close votes aren't a bad thing. That would present a group of people that has to contain a wolf.

EagleFan 01-25-2010 07:44 PM

Me thinks DV is a villager being strung up...

Danny 01-25-2010 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93 (Post 2211411)
Who the hell did you vote for Danny? You aren't in Lathum's count.


Saldana last page.

EagleFan 01-25-2010 07:45 PM

Darth Vilus 7, saldana 5, dubb93 2, Kwhit 2, EagleFan 1

Danny 01-25-2010 07:45 PM

And I am in Lathum's count.

dubb93 01-25-2010 07:45 PM

Unvote Darth
Vote Saldana


Let's see what shakes

Danny 01-25-2010 07:45 PM

That is a good point Jackal

Danny 01-25-2010 07:46 PM

Good move Dubb, a tie won't actually be a tie with what Jackal brought up.

saldana 01-25-2010 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal (Post 2211412)
As a note - we want the double vote to make itself apparent as soon as possible, so close votes aren't a bad thing. That would present a group of people that has to contain a wolf.


Quote:

Originally Posted by post 2, the rules
Warlock- You have a minion as a pet, your vote counts as double each day, this vote will not be reflected in the vote count but will be factored into the results.


or not

dubb93 01-25-2010 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2211417)
And I am in Lathum's count.


I fail at reading. For the life of me I couldn't find you. Now that you say that I see you.

CrimsonFox 01-25-2010 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93 (Post 2211411)
Who the hell did you vote for Danny? You aren't in Lathum's count.



Yes he is. He voted for Saldana

EagleFan 01-25-2010 07:47 PM

I read the votes as an attempt to save saldana at this point, kind of like how hoops was saved day one last game...

Of course I could be wrong (and probably usually am).

Danny 01-25-2010 07:47 PM

Lets leave this a tie! It means if the warlock happens to be on a 3rd candidate we hit the jackpot and if not we narrow it down to one group of 2. and learn who they voted to save.

EagleFan 01-25-2010 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal (Post 2211412)
As a note - we want the double vote to make itself apparent as soon as possible, so close votes aren't a bad thing. That would present a group of people that has to contain a wolf.


Very good point and very interesting that saldana doesn't want us to find this out...

CrimsonFox 01-25-2010 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 2211424)
I read the votes as an attempt to save saldana at this point, kind of like how hoops was saved day one last game...

Of course I could be wrong (and probably usually am).


Then again that's whow we could see the votes FOR Saldana as an attempt to save Darth/Dubb/Kwhit.
I'm with you, I'm probably wrong both ways.

dubb93 01-25-2010 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2211426)
Lets leave this a tie! It means if the warlock happens to be on a 3rd candidate we hit the jackpot and if not we narrow it down to one group of 2. and learn who they voted to save.


I was actually thinking that ealier but I didn't think I could present it without getting killed in thread for acting like a wolf.

Lathum 01-25-2010 07:49 PM

DV-6- J23 (100), MartinD (126) Schmidty (154) PD (160) Kwhit (166) Sal (173)
Saldana-6- Spleen (74) Clap (122) Autumn (131) Danny (135) GE (171) Dubb (187)
Kwhit-2- EF (95) RealDeal (127)
Dubb-2- CF (96) DV (120)
EF-1-Poli (80)

Danny 01-25-2010 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93 (Post 2211430)
I was actually thinking that ealier but I didn't think I could present it without getting killed in thread for acting like a wolf.


I worry more about you when you are not acting like a wolf ;)

CrimsonFox 01-25-2010 07:51 PM

We won't know the final result unless it affects the lynched. If it's on a third person, we won't learn ****. That's how I read it. Lathum? clarification on warlock?


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