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molson 01-11-2021 10:58 AM

Always better to get that stuff through subpoena if it's for criminal charges, otherwise, they have to rely on that hacker as a witness for every case. But that info would be great to help know what to request, for national security reasons, and for private use - I hope we get a database where employers and friends and family and neighbors can look up everyone who's affiliated with this movement and what they've said/done/threatened to do. I'm enjoying the stories of people being "revealed", losing their jobs, etc.

miami_fan 01-11-2021 11:04 AM

One thing I have learned with all the discoveries. It is best to have a good to great relationships with your ex spouse after divorce if you are going to get yourself involved in possibly illegal activity

Ksyrup 01-11-2021 11:06 AM

"How soon are you government people available for the custody hearing my attorney is scheduling today?"

JPhillips 01-11-2021 11:16 AM



lol

Lathum 01-11-2021 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 3322905)
Always better to get that stuff through subpoena if it's for criminal charges, otherwise, they have to rely on that hacker as a witness for every case. But that info would be great to help know what to request, for national security reasons, and for private use - I hope we get a database where employers and friends and family and neighbors can look up everyone who's affiliated with this movement and what they've said/done/threatened to do. I'm enjoying the stories of people being "revealed", losing their jobs, etc.


I love it that these people are surprised about the consequences they face.

Lathum 01-11-2021 11:19 AM

Supreme Court Refuses To Consider GOP Post-Election Cases Before Biden Takes Office

kingfc22 01-11-2021 11:34 AM

Since the enablers won't act on their own, we need more of this.

Dow Chemical won't donate to politicians who opposed election results | TheHill

Money talks. The irony of big business who benefitted the most from the GOP tax cuts making this type of move is just a thing of beauty to see.

GrantDawg 01-11-2021 11:39 AM

The Republicans are so good at this stuff:

GrantDawg 01-11-2021 11:45 AM

"Democrats should stop being so divisive"

GrantDawg 01-11-2021 11:52 AM

This is another thing that the Republicans do. Once people started comparing the attack on the Capitol with the "Night of Broken Glass", they have to appropriate it with something completely incomparable.

Edward64 01-11-2021 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3322914)
"Democrats should stop being so divisive"


That's my county.

I'll be surprised if it stays up there long.

kingfc22 01-11-2021 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3322917)
That's my county.

I'll be surprised if it stays up there long.


The fact that it is still up says everything that is needed.

Flasch186 01-11-2021 12:09 PM

Right, throw enough smoke bombs in the room and people can't see that the people that are talking to them are wearing white robes (or clothes at all for that matter.)

CrimsonFox 01-11-2021 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3322885)
dola- Jeff Flake saying he was on the hill 9/11 and the baseball field getting shot at and this was the worst thing he has seen.

fucking flake

CrimsonFox 01-11-2021 12:17 PM

ugh reading this thread while tupsy is even worse...........stop fingers....stop

CrimsonFox 01-11-2021 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3322904)


so sivck of every reepublican that uses a word they'd never heard of before hearing it on foxnews. exfirend used to do that constantly

GrantDawg 01-11-2021 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfc22 (Post 3322919)
The fact that it is still up says everything that is needed.

Well, it is Forsyth county. They wouldn't allow black people to move into the county a couple of decades ago. The demographic is changing, but it it still has some of that attitude around.

GrantDawg 01-11-2021 12:26 PM

dola: that is no slam on Edward. I am sure he moved there well after that scandal was past.

JPhillips 01-11-2021 01:06 PM

Is any GOPer going to acknowledge that Parler would be in very deep legal trouble now without Section 230 protections?

albionmoonlight 01-11-2021 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3322934)
Is any GOPer going to acknowledge that Parler would be in very deep legal trouble now without Section 230 protections?


Nope.

They have (smartly) managed to hijack the debate, making it seem like Section 230 hurts conservatives when, of course, it is the only reason Q can exist on social media at all.

GrantDawg 01-11-2021 01:12 PM

No one (especially the President) on the right has any idea what section 230 does.

CrimsonFox 01-11-2021 01:31 PM


GrantDawg 01-11-2021 01:32 PM


GrantDawg 01-11-2021 01:34 PM

Dang, stuff keeps raining in. DC AG would still be gibing federal charges, right? There is no municipal/state law?

albionmoonlight 01-11-2021 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3322948)
Dang, stuff keeps raining in. DC AG would still be gibing federal charges, right? There is no municipal/state law?


Yup. D.C. is federal (i.e. would be covered by a pardon and involve Biden/Garland having to follow through with it).

There is a D.C. municipal code that sort of works like state law. But it is all federal at the end of the day.

miami_fan 01-11-2021 04:20 PM

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/11/polit...tol/index.html

Flasch186 01-11-2021 04:27 PM

Acting Sec of Homeland Security resigns on the heels of having a boatload of armed protests being planned....awesome.

CrimsonFox 01-11-2021 04:32 PM


CrimsonFox 01-11-2021 04:43 PM

i found it funny that he rips on Ford F150s :)

RainMaker 01-11-2021 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3322948)
Dang, stuff keeps raining in. DC AG would still be gibing federal charges, right? There is no municipal/state law?



This guy is a grifter who is wrong about everything.

AlexB 01-11-2021 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3322977)
This guy is a grifter who is wrong about everything.


Dworkin? Trump? GrantDawg?

RainMaker 01-11-2021 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexB (Post 3322981)
Dworkin? Trump? GrantDawg?


Dworkin.

miami_fan 01-11-2021 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flasch186 (Post 3322973)
Acting Sec of Homeland Security resigns on the heels of having a boatload of armed protests being planned....awesome.


And replaced him with the FEMA Administrator.

No, really the FEMA Administrator

The guy who's role is

Quote:

to reduce the loss of life and property and protect the nation from all hazards, by leading and supporting the nation in a risk-based, comprehensive emergency management system of preparedness, protection, response, recovery, and mitigation. The Administrator is responsible for preparing for, protecting against, responding to, recovering from and mitigating against the risk of a natural disaster, act of terrorism, or other man-made disaster.

Now that I think about it, they got the right guy. This is a man made disaster.

Good call.

molson 01-11-2021 05:59 PM

Nobody really knows if Trump can effectively pardon himself, that will the subject of a legal battle after he's out, but it seems like the smart move here would be to resign and have Pence pardon him - if he hadn't already burned that bridge. Pence pardoning him after all this would be the most cowardly act yet, but, I still really wouldn't be surprised if it happened.

I've wondered how much of Trump's insanity was based on fear of criminal prosecution if he leaves the White House, but, he hasn't acted consistently with that goal either, so, I don't know.

Lathum 01-11-2021 06:00 PM

At this point why would Pence pardon him. He literally almost got him killed and has completely turned.

Galaril 01-11-2021 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3322975)


That was amazing.

JPhillips 01-11-2021 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miami_fan (Post 3322991)
And replaced him with the FEMA Administrator.

No, really the FEMA Administrator

The guy who's role is



Now that I think about it, they got the right guy. This is a man made disaster.

Good call.


Wolf's resignation makes it pretty clear that this is just a move to have a legal DHS Secretary codify all the stuff courts have said are invalid because Wolf was illegally appointed. It's just more rat fucking on the way out of the doors.

Edward64 01-11-2021 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flasch186 (Post 3322973)
Acting Sec of Homeland Security resigns on the heels of having a boatload of armed protests being planned....awesome.


I wouldn't be surprised if he was a "point of failure" where he didn't act on someone's request or warning etc.

But then again, just as easy to believe he said "f*ck it, I'm done with this circus".

Edward64 01-11-2021 06:29 PM

Well, this should be interesting ...

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/11/polit...yan/index.html
Quote:

Two US Capitol Police officers were suspended and up to 15 more are under investigation for their behavior during last week's assault on the Capitol, and federal agents will look at whether current and former law enforcement officers played a role in the riot.

One of the Capitol police officers took a selfie with someone who was part of the mob that overtook the Capitol and the other wore a "Make America Great Again" hat and started directing people around the building, according to Rep. Tim Ryan, an Ohio Democrat. He didn't disclose how many other officers were under investigation but confirmed it was between 10 and 15, and didn't say what they were being scrutinized for except that it was their behavior during the riot.

Galaril 01-11-2021 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3323000)
I wouldn't be surprised if he was a "point of failure" where he didn't act on someone's request or warning etc.

But then again, just as easy to believe he said "f*ck it, I'm done with this circus".


He does not want to be around when these terrorists start attacking all 50. Capitals and every government building in DC this weekend and next week. Fucking coward.

Galaril 01-11-2021 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miami_fan (Post 3322971)


Yeah not good. They had former FBI counter terrorism director from Bush admin and also former Obama FBI director on CNN .They reminded CNN talking heads that there is 15000 FBI agency’s national many accountants or lawyers. The FBI and Secret Service are not going to secure 50 capitals, all the top leadership as well as the Capital. From what 3000, 40000 50000 or more angry armed insurrections? Though the country has been built to not ever unleash the army on the citizens we have to have all options on the table.

rjolley 01-11-2021 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3323002)
Well, this should be interesting ...

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/11/polit...yan/index.html


Saw this earlier today: Police officer says he and others were sent home ahead of Capitol riot - Business Insider

sterlingice 01-11-2021 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3322999)
Wolf's resignation makes it pretty clear that this is just a move to have a legal DHS Secretary codify all the stuff courts have said are invalid because Wolf was illegally appointed. It's just more rat fucking on the way out of the doors.


Ah, that makes a lot more sense now

SI

GrantDawg 01-11-2021 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexB (Post 3322981)
Dworkin? Trump? GrantDawg?

I still think he meant me. :D

GrantDawg 01-11-2021 08:30 PM

Rep. Tom Reed is floating the idea of censure with the inability to hold federal office. Is that strong enough?

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JPhillips 01-11-2021 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3323040)
Rep. Tom Reed is floating the idea of censure with the inability to hold federal office. Is that strong enough?

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How do you enforce that without impeachment?

GrantDawg 01-11-2021 08:37 PM

If Trump Loses In November, What Do You Think Happens Next
 
Amendment 14 is what is being said.

Ksyrup 01-11-2021 08:38 PM

I read something that it was not true that a conviction and removal would make him ineligible to run again, that there would need to be a separate vote on that issue. Maybe that's what they are talking about.

kingfc22 01-11-2021 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3323040)
Rep. Tom Reed is floating the idea of censure with the inability to hold federal office. Is that strong enough?

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No.

rjolley 01-11-2021 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3323042)
Amendment 14 is what is being said.


Amendment 14 Section 3:

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

So they'd have to say he was involved in an insurrection and is therefore disqualified from office.


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