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Drew Brees and Phil Rivers watched that game, looked over at their wife, and said "Yeah, no regrets on that decision."
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dola: and props to the Dolphins. I hope they make the playoffs. Will be nice to see some new blood in the AFC instead of 56 year old Big Ben for the 100th season in a row.
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Hmm... that must have been quite the quarterback room in San Diego back when Rivers was drafted and learning from Brees. Some things teammates probably shouldn't share, though I'm sure there's a Dan Jenkins novel somewhere that makes it all work. Should the league do more, joking aside, to ensure that each game is a quality product? The Saints may miss the playoffs because of this loss. I don't know how you change things to avoid this kind of situation, but it doesn't seem right to put a guy like Book in a place where he's going to fail. Quarterbacks are asked to do so much. Even an experienced guy who took his team to the AFC championship not that long ago couldn't step in instead of Book because playbooks are so complex. Brees might have been tempted because he knows the basics of the Saints offense, but I'm sure Rivers was not. |
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I don't think I have any perception of Notre Dame quarterbacks and yes nuance. All that being said, that is an incredible stat. |
Playoffs scenarios for week 17
Updated after Miami at New Orleans, including some additional scenario fixes. Current seeding order
Tie-breaker situation per division AFC East tie-breaker situation Buffalo currently leads ahead of New England on division record (4-1 vs 3-2). They end up tied in that as well if Buffalo goes W-L and New England L-W in the last 2 games, in which case common games will be up next (tied situation in this scenario) and then eventually New England has conference record to win the division. As a result, neither Buffalo or New England can clinch in week 17. Buffalo will beat Miami in a 2-way tie at 10-7 or 9-7-1 each on heado-to-head. Miami will beat New England in a 2-way tie at 10-7 or 9-7-1 on head-to-head. In a 3-way tie between Buffalo, New England and Miami, Buffalo will win the division on head-to-head between the three teams. AFC North tie-breaker situation Cincinnati has head-to-head over Baltimore and Pittsburgh in each 2-way and also in this 3-way. If Cincinnati ends up tied with Cleveland (at 9-8 each) in a 2-way, Cleveland will be ahead on head-to-head. A 2-way tie between Baltimore and Pittsburgh will always go to Pittsburgh on head-to-head. A 2-way tie between Baltimore and Cleveland will go to Cleveland on division record. A 2-way tie between Pittsburgh and Cleveland will go to Pittsburgh if they tie the h-t-h clash in week 17, or to Cleveland if Cleveland wins the h-t-h clash in week 17. A 3-way between Cincinnati, Baltimore and Cleveland will go to Cleveland on head-to-head. A 3-way between Cincinnati, Pittsburgh and Cleveland is impossible. A 3-way between Baltimore, Pittsburgh and Cleveland (for 2nd place in the division) will go to Pittsburgh on head-to-head record between the 3. A 4-way tie is no longer mathematically possible. AFC South Tennessee has tie-breakers over Indianapolis on head-to-head. AFC West Kansas City clinched the division. LA Chargers will have tie-breakers over Las Vegas on head-to-head, or if LA Chargers goes W-L and Las Vegas L-W on common games. Denver will have tie-breakers over LA Chargers on head-to-head. Las Vegas will have tie-breakers over Denver on head-to-head. In a 3-way between LA Chargers, Las Vegas and Denver, if they end up 9-8 each, it will go down to a 2-way between LA Chargers and Denver on division record (which then goes to Denver). If they end up 8-8-1 each, Las Vegas will have head-to-head tie-breaker. NFC East Dallas clinched the division. Washington will have tie-breakers over Philadelphia on division record. NFC North Green Bay clinched the division. NFC South Tie-breakers between New Orleans vs Atlanta will go to Atlanta if Atlanta wins or ties the h-t-h clash in week 18, or if New Orleans wins the h-t-h- clash in week 18 to New Orleans on division record. NFC West Tie-breakers between LA Rams and Arizona will go to Arizona on division record. For second place, Arizona has head-to-head over San Francisco. Scenarios per team Kansas City division champion win + Tennessee loss/tie -> #1 seed tie + Tennessee loss -> #1 seed Tennessee has head-to-head tie-breaker over Kansas City Tennessee win -> division champion tie + Indianapolis loss/tie -> division champion tie + Indianapolis win -> playoffs loss + Indianapolis loss -> division champion loss + Indianapolis win/tie + 3 of 4 from: Miami loss/tie, Baltimore loss/tie, LA Chargers loss/tie, Las Vegas loss/tie -> playoffs Tennessee has tie-breakers over Indianapolis (see above) Cincinnati win -> division champion tie + Baltimore loss/tie -> division champion tie + Baltimore win + Miami loss/tie + LA Chargers loss/tie + Las Vegas loss/tie -> playoffs loss + Baltimore loss + Pittsburgh loss/tie + Cleveland loss/tie -> division champion Cincinnati has tie-breakers over Baltimore and Pittsburgh, but not over Cleveland (see above) Buffalo win + at least 3 of 4 from: Miami loss/tie, Baltimore loss/tie, LA Chargers loss/tie, Las Vegas loss/tie -> playoffs tie + at least 3 of 4 from: Miami loss, Baltimore loss, LA Chargers loss, Las Vegas loss + Pittsburgh loss/tie -> playoffs Buffalo cannot clinch division with win + New England loss Indianapolis win (vs Las Vegas) + 2 of 3 from: Miami loss/tie, Baltimore loss/tie, LA Chargers loss/tie -> playoffs tie (vs Las Vegas) + Miami loss + Baltimore loss + LA Chargers loss -> playoffs New England win + 1 of 2 from: Miami loss/tie, Las Vegas loss/tie -> playoffs tie + at least 3 of 4 from: Miami loss, Baltimore loss/tie, LA Chargers loss/tie, Las Vegas loss -> playoffs New England cannot clinch division with win + Buffalo loss Miami cannot clinch wild card in week 17 Baltimore cannot clinch wild card in week 17 LA Chargers cannot clinch wild card in week 17 Las Vegas cannot clinch wild card in week 17 Green Bay win + Dallas loss/tie + 1 of 2 from: LA Rams loss/tie, Tampa Bay loss/tie -> #1 seed tie + Dallas loss + 1 of 2 from: LA Rams loss, Tampa Bay loss -> #1 seed Dallas division champion LA Rams qualified for playoffs win + Arizona loss/tie -> division champion tie + Arizona loss -> division champion Arizona can still get tie-breakers over LA Rams (see above) Tampa Bay division champion Arizona qualified for playoffs San Francisco win + New Orleans loss/tie -> playoffs win + Philadelphia loss -> playoffs tie + New Orleans loss + Minnesota loss/tie + Atlanta loss/tie -> playoffs San Francisco has head-to-head over any combination of Philadelphia, Minnesota and Atlanta. But if New Orleans gets involved, conference record will be the tie-breaker (which will go against San Francisco), which then will be broken on strength of victory in New Orleans' favor. If the later was for the first wild card, then San Francisco will get the second wild card based on their head-to-head sweep. Philadelphia win + Minnesota loss/tie + New Orleans loss/tie -> playoffs tie + Minnesota loss + New Orleans loss + Atlanta loss/tie -> playoffs Edit Dec 30th: The NFL website incorrectly lists the LA Chargers and Las Vegas ahead of Baltimore, apparently they forgot to use the back from the start logic in the tie-breaking I forgot to check and write the tie to qualify scenarios for San Francisco and Philadelphia, I also missed the Cincinnati tie to qualify scenario |
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I don't think there's much they can do. It's a rare situation right now because of the Omicron surge that knocks 20 guys out of lineups for 5-10 days. They made the first 2-3 months of the season without a problem. |
Book wasn't good, but that offensive line somewhat made the Steelers line look acceptable.
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Between practice squad QBs, multiple starters out, all of the college bowl game cancellations, and then in the NBA, teams down to 8 players most of whom are meeting each other for the first time on the bus ride to the game, sports was obviously caught completely unprepared for another round of Covid. I think they all thought last year was going to be the worst of it and that they could deal with Covid positives with punitive measures (forfeits, etc.), but with a new strain that everyone is getting, that went out the window and they are struggling to keep things going. I mean, they are playing, but the games are mostly shit with a number of people playing who are like replacement/scab level quality. It sucks.
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The team seems to be getting hit hard by covid and Wentz is reportedly unvaccinated. I think the Colts dropping their last two games is becoming a real possibility. |
And Sam Ehlinger it is for Indy this weekend...
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Yeah if you aren't vaccinated then you can't claim you're doing all you can to help your team win.
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Well, now they are saying Wentz might be able to play with the new 5 day testing protocol. So the question is how did they know what the change in protocols was going to be so that they tested him in time? Interesting.
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And on a completely separate note, I just read that Jeff Dixkerson, an ESPN Chicago reporter, passed away from cancer today. His wife died of cancer 2 years ago. They have an 11 year old son. Damn...
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Unvaccinated players are tested every day. So, he was tested today and positive today? |
Goodell just announced John Madden has passed away.
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I don't know. I saw something about players only be tested at certain points and that under the old protocols he wouldn't have been tested yet. |
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I looked it up to be sure. |
Ha!
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No game tonight. I'm bummed.
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Kirk Cousins tests positive, out versus Packers. I believe he's another anti-vaxx guy.
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No idea what the Vikings do on Sunday. As much as I want to see their 3rd round pick Kellen Mond, a southern kid starting his first game in Green Bay in single digit temperatures is far from ideal.
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They basically just forfeit. That's more or less how this works. Whether it's an unprepared rookie or some hobo off the street who doesn't know the playbook, that's what you have to do now. This is mostly on Cousins, of course. But some measure of it has to be on the team as well. He made it widely known he was willing to take this exact risk to hurt the team out of his own principles. That team knew they could well be in this position, and surely could have made efforts to have their own Joe Flacco or Gardner Minshew or whomever at the ready. The whole situation definitely sucks (not just as a matter of health and humanity but as a matter of competition), but it's part of the calculus at this point. |
...and if Sean Mannion counts as their "solid Plan B guy" then that's that. Hope he can play a bit.
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I saw something on Twitter about Mond also being unvaxxed, so if they shared the same QB room, Vikings may be down even further. But surely they kept their 2 unvaxxed QBs separate...?
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Well Mannion is terrible but plenty of vaccinated players have missed games as well. Im not sure we can blame it entirely on not being vaccinated.
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Honestly, I kind of enjoy this new stochastic wrinkle these "Covid inactives" are playing in the late season. Its like someone took a dice throw to remove anywhere from 0 -12 players for a given week. Could be scrubs or stars; zero-shits given. If a player sits out a week, he has a greater, yet not absolute chance of being active in the next week. Players that test positive, miss their game (s) are then safe from this for 90 days. Come to think of it... This is basically the "influenza" injury in FOF; nice work Jim. I cant recall the last time I has this happen to my FOF team. As a side note A. Rodgers' 90 day window is 12 days before the super bowl on or around February 1st and probably right in the depths of peak Omicron spikes. At that point he is subject to testing again. This will start to become bigger news if the packers keep advancing. |
Dear Rams,
You're suppose to start fights with the other team, not with other teammates. |
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If they win today, they cannot lose tie-breakers to any other pursuing teams than the Ravens. The Dolphins-Patriots week 18 clash will help eliminate the loser of that game from the Colts' competition. But that is a just today scenario, a loss vs Las Vegas will complicate things for the Colts. Scenarios for week 18 will be so much easier than week 17, with much less remaining possibilities. At the very least, I ended up with having a lot of fun in creating a neat Excel sheet. :D |
Tua’s struggling today. Poor conditions, but he is having the most difficulty of anyone on the field
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Ouch. That Titan’s foot was not pointing in the right direction
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Scary collision for TE Ricky Seals-Jones. Crashes into an end zone cameraman but then his head collides with the padded wall. Player carted off, cameraman left under his own power eventually.
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Great call refs. False start missed, and then the Titans WR grabs the DBs jersey, falls to the ground and gets a PI call :rolleyes:
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WTF are the Giants doing? Literally 3 guys on offense. QB has thrown 2 passes - 1 INT - and 2 RBs with 26 carries and the lone reception.
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Dave Gettleman once said the teams that runs the ball the most in the NFL win a lot. They currently have 6 more runs than the Bears so they're sticking to the script. |
Arians publically defends Antonio Brown and now Brown throws a fit, strips out of his pads and shirt, and runs off of the field.
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wow the guy is messed up. And so are the Bucs losing to the Jets in the third quarter |
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If you have seen what the Giants look like when they try to pass... Glennon has dropped back to pass 6 times. 2 completed passes, 1 INT, 2 strip sack fumbles. |
7th pass play for the Giants offense, a bad snap in shotgun formation and Glennon nearly throws a 3rd pick
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I'm fascinated by the Giants today. Through 3 quarters, 4 guys have touched the ball. Five if you count the center, I guess. I mean, try a couple WR/TE screens, end arounds, something.
And no, I haven't watched the game so I understand they suck but they don't appear to even be trying to get the ball to anyone. |
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Arians is a good coach, but he does not strike me as the coach I’d want with a melting-down locker room. Will be interesting to see how that goes.
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Just protecting their draft position? |
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They had the opportunity to ditch him after the fake Covid card, ut they didn't. |
Lost in the Antonio Brown debacle is the overall game debacle for TB.
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Heh.
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