Which I thought was pretty obvious from last night.

Is the night-kill your power?

so, there is certailny doubt about this reveal from pass..... but the thing is.... pass is a good and experinced player..... and this just seems so dumb... it kinda has to be true. i mean I might try this, ijust cant see pass making a weak reveal like this.

Or he's SUCH a good player that he does it knowing that we'll think he wouldn't do such a thing, so he gets away with it :)

yeah....

wait... telle is playing? :(

the frown is for my lack of observation, rather than not liking telle.

I guess the question is why I wouldn't want to say what the power is.

You did make me wonder for a moment :) And I was extremely quiet yesterday because I was so busy at work. That's probably how you missed me being in the game.

that must be it. me and my 75 posts are very UTR.

wow only 47 :)

Clap: I find it highly ironi that you're being so adamant that I'm annoying you so badly when you normally do the exat same thing I'm doing. (Aka posting constantly, most of which appear utterly worthless) So either, join the pot/kettle brigade or shut the hell up about it.

Farrah: WAY too easy hon, you gotta make it harder for me to think up lascivious comments.....

Pass: You need to come clean with some serious information here. You offer up a reveal, then vanish hpoing it saves your ass, which it wouldn't have if pth or others had checked in sooner. You're in the hot seat right now. What is the "Alchemist", what does it allow you to do and when can you do it? There is still the point that the rules describe us as being creatures, which fits precisely with my PM description and apparently a couple other's as well. Why would yours apear to not fit that mold?

Telle: I'd agree with your idea on the non-night kill but I was told in my movement PM that I overheard the sounds of a fight, so someone got attacked or got blocked last night. It wasn't very far away from me and it was distinctly the sound of fighting.

Hello all. Sorry for my absence yesterday, but I had to deal with a lot of work stuff. I got laid off and had to go to a bunch of HR meetings and crap like that. And then the other guys who got the axe wanted to go have a drink, and well....

So that's why I missed the vote.

RendeR, I have nothign wrong with lots of inane posts.... its the quoting and shakespeare.

Oh that sucks :( Did you at least get a decent severance package?

Better than nothing, but no, it wasn't great.

that sucks! hopefully you can bounce back!

Oh yeah. I'll be fine.

I tihnk my point is it doesn't matter what the content is, the fact that you post inane BS and then bitch when someone else does the same thing is rather insipid, don;t you think?

Every post I made yesterday was made on purpose. So wether they appear inane is irrelevent. I'd have made them even if I weren't trying to liven things up, they'd have just been a lot more boring.

And don't dis Shakespeare, if you can understand Shakespeare, you can understand anything =)

Sorry to hear that man, hope you bounce back with something even better!

Thanks.

Err, not sory that you'll be fine...duh/...I quoted the wrong post =)

its cuz ur not ryming anymore ;)

Ugh, sorry to hear that Kwhit

Yeah, culture sucks :rolleyes:
If you don't like it, skip over it. There's enough of us to do the work of deciphering any relevant info from it for you.

Ouch! So sorry to hear that man!
Good luck in the hunt for the next job!

Good luck PB!

Sorry to hear that KWhit, good luck on the job hunt my man.

Kids are being monsters, be back later on.

Sorry to hear about the bad news, PB and KWhit!

I, too, heard a commotion.

And Pass, as far as your reveal, I think the thing that is sitting funny with most people (at least for me) is that you come on, say you are the alchemist, and then bolt. You say this in a game with no "defined" roles. Alchemist could mean ANYTHING and you seemingly expected your reveal to sway votes away from you with no explanation at all. I can see why you would try, but all you did was cast more suspicion on yourself.

And good luck to PB and KWhit as well :)

Ok, who all heard commotion / fighting and did anyone find out if they were attacked or someone was blocking for them?

I didn't hear any commotion.

FYI I got hit in the face with a log, and am stuned :(

LOL - I don't know why, but that just sounds really funny.

Ouch. So what does "stunned" mean? You can't move today?

no 3pm move.

Jerk!

Man, it's been an interesting day for WW players in the real world. Good luck to all of you.

Oh joy. We're in a maze ruled by a sadist.

Random thoughts -

-Not really suspicious of the no votes, it happens.
-Not particularly a fan of BK's vote (as I previously mentioned) and Abe's vote (which nicely ducked any relevance). Of course, yesterday's vote will take on a lot more meaning when we figure out what side Pass is on.

A Pass lynch wouldn't be the worst thing for us because it'd at least tell us where we stand, which is about as good as we can hope for early on.

a log hit my face
and today I cannot move
so what shal I do

haiku is the plan
for today is a long day
and my boss is out

I think Pass or Render is the way to go today, because it could help us figure out a lot of stuff. Although, as might be evidence from last night, we might need a lot more support on one (rather than just over 50%, since some said we might need more than just a majority, much like the last game)

passacaglia
seemed suspicous last night
I am not yet sold

:+1:

One half plus one would be as high as we would need to go, IMO. But heck, yesterday we didn't get a third, so who knows how many it would take. But we do need to get a lynch in today.

I got a message that I detect someone in front of me and I am planning on moving forward.

I think we have to assume at least 40% if not 50+1. It means our votes need to be pretty tight.

the vote decided
maybe becasue of a tie
not a vote threshold

You feel strongly about that vote, Lathum? Pretty early to make a vote like that...

RendeR, why were you speaking in Shakespeare yesterday?

I don't think we need to lynch Pass yet - I'd like him to explain himself a little more - and explain what the alchemist does.

Render? Eh, I don't have a read on him, but doubt he'd bring so much attention on himself as a wolf. So I'm going another direction for now.

Vote ntndeacon.

Similar to the BK vote yesterday, this is a vote I don't like - the post gives a rationale for something but ultimately doesn't even attempt to explain the vote, so it kind of seems like trying to sneak the vote in while in plain sight. I know this early on it's hard to give much of an explanation for anything, but at least humor me :P

"I have seen a medicine
That's able to breathe life into a stone,
Quicken a rock, and make you dance canary
With spritely fire and motion, whose simple touch
Is powerful to araise King Pippen, nay,
To give great Charlemain a pen in 's hand
And write to her a love-line."

I just saw some of the posts right before deadline, concerned with me not being a creature. From the rules:


I think I'm okay being a human -- I wasn't told specifically that I was one, but it seems like a decent assumption.

Also, I had some notion that the win condition was to reach the center of the Labyrinth, but I don't see anything in the rules about that. Maybe it was wishful thinking on my part, cuz that would have been cool. Did anyone else see that?

His Logic is sound. His sounds are Logical. Logically speaking he must be on to something here.

And I agree that RendeR's act is far too overt for a wolf. Attention in the early game has a very high correlation with getting lynched. We stick to Occam's Razor too much when it comes to lynches to make that move a positive EV play, IMO.

Yeah, I did, at some point.

If one of the commoners finds the center of the labyrinth the game ends and the commoners win.

It's a somewhat random vote, excluding the folks I mentioned (Pass and Render). I want Pass to explain himself better though, or I may be moving my vote to him.

Mkay, works for me.

Jackal mentioned that if you reach the center you get out of the labyrinth, I don't think he ever said you WIN in that situation, other than excaping alive.

erk, that'll teach me to post before refreshing the page....

Thankfully The Jackal had already posted, since I have no idea what you were saying here!

Was there anything else in the original rules that were deleted?

Nah. It was timing information and overall game plan, which is still there.

This is similar to the message I received. I too am planning on moving forward.

So is reaching the center of the Labyrinth the only win condition, or can we also win by killing all the wolves?

FYI to the other commoners, I won't be hunting for the center, but I think commoners with no reason to do otherwise definitely should.

Still no hints as to why? :P

Alchemists can't be anything other than humans. I've never heard of a dinosaur alchemist.

So your reveal was a load of crap.

farrah whitworth rahn
why do you seem confident
that pass is wolfy

this haiku making
is much harder than i thouhgt
but is much more fun

My reveal was a load of crap because you've never heard of a dinosaur alchemist? I'm not even the one who said I wasn't a creature. All I said was that I was the Alchemist. People inferred from that (probably correctly) that I was human, which didn't jive with their roles as creatures. All I was doing with my later post was showing that it's okay for me to be a human -- although I don't see what would be WRONG with being a dinosaur alchemist, since it's just a game.

ntn still has
only 4 posts, are we sure he
knows the game is on?

Just because you haven't heard of it doesn't mean it can't exist in the whacked out mind of some WW GM :P Not that I like the way Pass is going either, but I'm not putting too much past The Jackal.

He's ntn. He's quiet. It's why I always tried to get him lynched back in the day :P

no assumptions can
be made, since the jackyl is
the one running all

Oh, it's because I can do other things that can hopefully help the commoners. But I don't like hints -- I usually figure that they will be received by the wrong people.

4 posts is quiet?
4 posts is almost not here
I hope he says more

It is the only known win condition at this point. If all the wolves die you'll find out what happens.

I think you already
are a target for the wolves
due to you being pass

It's not really out of character for him. It's not like we were being productive most of yesterday anyway - mostly it was RendeR being a schizophrenic, out-of-work actor and us trying to figure out why :P

that is true, posting
is fun and enjoyable
I would like to win

All's Well That Ends Well Act 2, scene 1, 72–78

all the info we have
is about render and pass
I say lynch neither

we are back to day
one with no knowledge
other than pass has role

Wow, thanks. Anyone have input here? I was thinking of exploring an area that looks like a dead end, but maybe I should explore a more open area instead?

Thanks for clearing that up.

I'm guessing this isn't a nice, simple maze. There's probably all kinds of random stuff going on, so a dead end may not be just an empty corner.

I already have
hit a trap, I will track my
progress but no faith

I think our best bet
will be to lynch all the wolves
the center will come

minotaur worries
I dont want to die this game
is much fun

lol omg this thread is a riot.

haiku is much fun

This is impressive. My name alone takes up most of the syllables of the haiku.

:P

arlies wife is short
I will use that from now on
I hope you dont mind

oh baby