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GrantDawg 10-12-2023 02:52 PM

Btw, I have been to games at Ole Miss. If it were just hot girls ready to put out that made the diffidence, they would be Alabama.

Edward64 10-12-2023 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3414400)
Yup. Those Texas A&M girls are ugly prudes, which is why they spend so much more than everyone else without winning crap. That sounds realistic and logical.


Can't decide if you shaded/dissed the women of the teams/states that are perennially in the bottom half of the SEC.

GrantDawg 10-12-2023 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3414405)
Can't decide if you shaded/dissed the women of the teams/states that are perennially in the bottom half of the SEC.

It is not my contention that women putting out is that much of a factor in winning. There are very few college campus that don't have plenty of hot women willing to sleep with football players. I have been a game at Arkansas. That is not the reason they haven't won a championship. I could only think of one campus I have been on that would be a bit lighter on that, but I don't want to just slam a rival.

JonInMiddleGA 10-12-2023 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3414401)
Btw, I have been to games at Ole Miss. If it were just hot girls ready to put out that made the diffidence, they would be Alabama.


Difference is, they're a) a lot hotter, and b) a good bit less football-centric about their "dates"

It's a cottage industry here, has been for decades. Hell, that's how they secured Herschel.

(And I say that with some confidence since I happen to personally know who was assigned to sleep with him)

SirFozzie 10-12-2023 03:39 PM

Reiterate, it's time for something different in College Football if NIL is to continue (which it should). Yes, I know it will NEVER happen, but...

Just make it a U23 pro league. There are currently 128 FBS teams and 133 FCS teams.

Divide FBS in to 4 32 team "leagues", each made up of 4 8 team divsions, divided roughly by geography.

Teams play each other teams in their division once (7 games), and can play any other team in the league with their other 4-5 games (which are treated like non-conference games currently)

The top team in each division, plus four wild-cards (determined by highest poll rankings) advance to an 8 team championship for the league.

Promotion and Relgation: The 8th place team in each division is relegated to a lower division (except in the lowest divsion of course). The 7th Place team division plays the quarter final loser in the playoffs for the league below in a promotion/relegation game.

So, this is how it'd look:

League 1: The four division winners and four wildcards play for the National Football Championship. Last place team gets relegated to League 2, 7th place team plays League 2 QF losers to determine who's in League 1 and who's in League 2

League 2: Four Division winners and four wildcards play in an 8 team tournament. Quarter-Finals winners are promoted to League 1, losers will play the 7th place League 1 teams for promotion. 8th place relegated to League three, 7th place will play QF losers of League 3 for promotion/relegation

League 3: Four Division winners and four wildcards play in an 8 team tournament. Quarter-Finals winners are promoted to League 2, losers will play the 7th place League 2 teams for promotion. Last place teams fall to league 4, 7th place plays Division 4's QF losers to stay in League 3

League 4: League 2: Four Division winners and four wildcards play in an 8 team tournament. Quarter-Finals winners are promoted to League 3, QF losers play the 7th place team to try to go up.

As new teams get filtered into FBS, the League 4 divisions will expand to 9-10 team divisions.. after 8 new teams join, then a new fifth League 4 division is formed (and then start to look in expanding)

This allows teams to be judged against teams of roughly the same caliber, but gives a number of slots to keep traditional rivals. If teams want to book games against lower level teams, sure.. but remember, the voters may judge you for it, if you don't play top competition and don't win your division, you're at the mercy of the voters to get into the playoffs (which are the only way to get promoted)

Vegas Vic 10-12-2023 10:11 PM

Garrett Greene giveth, and Garrett Greene taketh away.

Edward64 10-12-2023 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3414408)
I could only think of one campus I have been on that would be a bit lighter on that, but I don't want to just slam a rival.


Oh com’on, don’t be coy. Everyone wants to know now …

larrymcg421 10-12-2023 10:28 PM

Crazy walk off Hail Mary win for Houston over WVU.

Atocep 10-12-2023 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421 (Post 3414450)
Crazy walk off Hail Mary win for Houston over WVU.


Fire Neal Brown

JonInMiddleGA 10-12-2023 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3414449)
Oh com’on, don’t be coy. Everyone wants to know now …


Ooh ooh, I know I know

And, to be honest, he ain't wrong.

Swaggs 10-13-2023 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3414451)
Fire Neal Brown


This one is going to take awhile to get over. I'm not sure I have ever been so stunned by a relatively meaningless game. Neal actually showed some emotion at the post game press conference, so that was interesting. If we don't win Homecoming over a very beatable Okla St, the hot seat is going to be back up to a 10 in a hurry.

Atocep 10-13-2023 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs (Post 3414490)
This one is going to take awhile to get over. I'm not sure I have ever been so stunned by a relatively meaningless game. Neal actually showed some emotion at the post game press conference, so that was interesting. If we don't win Homecoming over a very beatable Okla St, the hot seat is going to be back up to a 10 in a hurry.


I didn't like the hire from the beginning. I think he was hired mostly because he was the anti-dana. He was clean, organized, well spoken, and was big on team culture. However, I was willing to give him a chance.

He's still the same coach he was in the Sun Belt, nothing has really changed, and that's the problem. What wins in the Sun Belt doesn't necessarily work at the P5 level. Inefficient ball control, shorten the game, hope the other team makes mistakes, and then squeeze out a win just isn't a very good recipe for success in the Big 12.

The 4-1 start this year included a 3 touchdown loss to Penn State, a win over Duquesne, a win over Pitt and the worst P5 quarterback (who's now a TE) by a mile, and a win over Texas Tech and their backup QB. The TCU win was nice, but Sonny Dykes also just shit the bed for that game. I'm not sure I've ever seen a coach look as clueless on the sidelines as he did and I've been watching 5 years of Neal Brown.

What it comes down to is Brown is an awful offensive coach, which as an air raid guy is one hell of an accomplishment. The way he wants to win goes against everything analytics have shown is a way to win on a consistent basis, while claiming to be an analytics guy.

Dana outcoached him last night, which was a massive gut punch. Watching Dana, with a far less talented team, figure out our weak spots as the game went on and continually attack them while Brown tried to get cute with tons of motion, etc was embarrassing. He was forced to open things up in the 2nd half or Houston was going to run away with it, but the lesson he probably got from that was to back to what he's comfortable with and just pound Donaldson and Greene up the middle until he's forced to do something else and then hope that works.

JonInMiddleGA 10-13-2023 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3414551)
What it comes down to is Brown is an awful offensive coach, which as an air raid guy is one hell of an accomplishment.


Y'know, that feels like an underrated solid point

SirFozzie 10-14-2023 01:02 AM

The catch of the year just happened on a Saturday at 2 in the morning (eastern) in Colorado-Stanford.

Galaril 10-14-2023 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 3414586)
The catch of the year just happened on a Saturday at 2 in the morning (eastern) in Colorado-Stanford.


I was wondering if anyone else was watching this. Crazy CU was up 29-0 at halftime and Stanford out scores them 36-7 in the second half. 43 all in OT. This is like the old WAC conference games in the 1980s.

SirFozzie 10-14-2023 01:08 AM

https://twitter.com/Hayesfawcett3/st...73062285889871

13 catches, 294 yards on the day,

Galaril 10-14-2023 01:10 AM

Wow looks like Colorado blew it. That is a terrible loss for CU. They really will need to fix their line and oline for next year. I am not sure they win another game this year.

JonInMiddleGA 10-14-2023 01:11 AM

Go Trees Go

Bwahahaha

JonInMiddleGA 10-14-2023 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 3414586)
The catch of the year just happened on a Saturday at 2 in the morning (eastern) in Colorado-Stanford.


That was downright abusive lol

SirFozzie 10-14-2023 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3414591)
That was downright abusive lol


I mean, what the hell is the defender supposed to do in that situation. And you KNOW despite that, it's going to be eating him for days to come.. he'll wake up from a nightmare, where the receiver's arms turn into tenteacles and wrap around his head to catch the ball.

RainMaker 10-14-2023 02:00 AM

That's some Randy Moss style stuff.

bronconick 10-14-2023 07:13 AM

Just abused the September Heisman winner all night long.

Edward64 10-14-2023 08:07 AM

Looked up biggest comebacks.

So I'm guessing a 29 point comeback is in Top 10-15?

Quote:

35 points — Michigan State defeats Northwestern on Oct. 21, 2006
34 points — UCLA defeats Texas A&M on Sept. 3, 2017
32 points — UCLA defeats Washington State on Sept. 21, 2019
31 points — Maryland defeats Miami on Nov. 10, 1984
31 points — Ohio State defeats Minnesota on Oct. 28, 1989
31 points — Texas Tech defeats Minnesota on Dec. 29, 2006
31 points — TCU defeats Oregon on Jan. 2, 2016
31 points — Tulsa defeats Fresno State on Sept. 24, 2016
30 points — California defeats Oregon on Oct. 2, 1993

Galaril 10-14-2023 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3414599)
Looked up biggest comebacks.

So I'm guessing a 29 point comeback is in Top 10-15?


Well it is college where most teams can’t spell defense.

Ksyrup 10-14-2023 08:58 AM

I agree with Deion that these late night games are ridiculous. More of the country should get to see these implosions while we're awake.

Ksyrup 10-14-2023 11:15 AM

Keon Coleman just made a leaping 1-handed catch that was absolutely amazing.

And then fumbled on the next play, of course.

Edit: Here it is.


GrantDawg 10-14-2023 12:08 PM

Brock Bowers is coming off the field, and every Georgia fan just started praying.

GrantDawg 10-14-2023 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3414637)
Brock Bowers is coming off the field, and every Georgia fan just started praying.

He had to have help to walk him back to the locker-room. He seemed mad when he went to the turf, like he knew something gave. Hopefully it isn't as bad as it seems, but not looking great.

Ksyrup 10-14-2023 02:01 PM

I know it's a no-win situation for coaches of teams that are overmatched, but I don't understand not trying to win and going for the semi-blowout score loss. Dino Babers today is coaching for a kinda-bad loss instead of 35+ point loss.

FSU is up on Syracuse 24-3 about 4 minutes left in the 3rd, Syracuse has it 4th and 6 at about the FSU 15. Immediately sends out the FG team, yet somehow still gets a delay penalty (may have been some hedging on the headset but they clearly pulled the offense immediately). Kicker shanks it. So, you don't even get the 3 points that wouldn't have done anything to help you win anyway.

Then, FSU is up 27-3 12 minutes left in the 4th, 4th and 7 right around the 50. YOU HAVE TO SCORE OTHERWISE THE GAME IS OVER. They punt. WHY?

And guess what? FSU scored anyway. 34-3 now with just under 10 minutes left.

GrantDawg 10-14-2023 02:03 PM

What a crazy sequence. Tip ball gets picked by Vandy, and it looked like an easy pick 6 until the defender got inside the 5 and Carson Beck comes at him like a bullet. He lowered his shoulder and nailed him to knock him out of bounds. Unfortunately the defender got his leg caught and might have ripped his knee.

bronconick 10-14-2023 02:05 PM

Purdue really had a student make a 40-yard field goal during a timeout, then the Boilermakers’ real kicker missed a 39-yarder

Thomkal 10-14-2023 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bronconick (Post 3414652)
Purdue really had a student make a 40-yard field goal during a timeout, then the Boilermakers’ real kicker missed a 39-yarder



Ha! Guess we know who will be suiting up next week

SirFozzie 10-14-2023 02:19 PM

I know one team was 2-3 entering the game, and the other was 4-2, but seeing Rutgers beating Michigan St is kinda "my how the mighty have fallen" in my head.

JonInMiddleGA 10-14-2023 04:46 PM

I've watched more than my fair share of shitty QBs over a long lifetime but I swear I'm pretty sure that Joe Milton is in the top five of "guys I fucking HATE to watch"

He's like watching a North Korean missile. It may fire but nobody knows where the fuck it's going to land.

bronconick 10-14-2023 05:56 PM

As much as I hate the conference realignment, I'm going to love watching Oregon ripping the faces off of shitty Big Ten football teams. I'm looking at you, unwatchable Iowa and Wisconsin.

sovereignstar v2 10-14-2023 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronconick (Post 3414671)
As much as I hate the conference realignment, I'm going to love watching Oregon ripping the faces off of shitty Big Ten football teams. I'm looking at you, unwatchable Iowa and Wisconsin.


Probably shaking in their boots as they watch tape of their bowl game a few years ago against Michigan State where Hebert mustered one touchdown in the 4th quarter.

albionmoonlight 10-14-2023 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3414667)
I've watched more than my fair share of shitty QBs over a long lifetime but I swear I'm pretty sure that Joe Milton is in the top five of "guys I fucking HATE to watch"

He's like watching a North Korean missile. It may fire but nobody knows where the fuck it's going to land.


I was explaining to Mrs. A the other day that hating a playing and him sucking are correlated, but the correlation isn't as strong as you'd think.

Some guys just have a way of sucking that makes you HATE them in a way that other guys don't

Ksyrup 10-14-2023 06:25 PM

I suppose if you justify everything by saying "we play aggressive" that it's supposed to mask a bunch of stupid decisions? What say you, Lanning?

bronconick 10-14-2023 06:26 PM

College kickers, man

tarcone 10-14-2023 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronconick (Post 3414671)
As much as I hate the conference realignment, I'm going to love watching Oregon ripping the faces off of shitty Big Ten football teams. I'm looking at you, unwatchable Iowa and Wisconsin.


I remember Nebby saying the same thing.

Iowa Iowa's to the title game. Who needs offense?

bob 10-14-2023 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bronconick (Post 3414675)
College kickers, man


Maybe that's why they went for those other 4th downs instead of kicking the FGs.

Two weeks in a row with really fun games that I don't have routing interests in - Texas / Oklahoma and this one.

JonInMiddleGA 10-14-2023 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3414673)
I was explaining to Mrs. A the other day that hating a playing and him sucking are correlated, but the correlation isn't as strong as you'd think.

Some guys just have a way of sucking that makes you HATE them in a way that other guys don't


Reggie f'n Ball
Jordan f'n Ta'amu
Joe f'n Milton

I've had plenty of shitty QBs to endure but those are the ones that ended up with middle names.

Ksyrup 10-14-2023 07:42 PM

What QB is everyone supposed to be tanking for?

JonInMiddleGA 10-14-2023 07:44 PM

Not counting channel flipping, so far today we've seen 5 quarters of football as our primary game (UT-A&M and now Miami-UNC)

In those five quarters we've seen 33 penalties for 323 yards ... and could have easily added another 10 and 100+ if the refs were remotely capable.

rjolley 10-14-2023 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3414679)
What QB is everyone supposed to be tanking for?


I've had this same thought over the last couple of weeks. I was more impressed with the way Young played last year than what I've seen of Williams this year, but I'm not a QB evaluator, so what do I know?

Ksyrup 10-14-2023 07:51 PM

Caleb Williams looks terrible. No discipline, bad footwork, throwing the ball up for grabs. Yikes.

rjolley 10-14-2023 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3414682)
Caleb Williams looks terrible. No discipline, bad footwork, throwing the ball up for grabs. Yikes.


Ok, let me start a conspiracy theory: Williams is playing poorly to lower his draft stock so bad teams won't want him. 6-D Chess, man.

JonInMiddleGA 10-14-2023 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3414682)
Caleb Williams looks terrible. No discipline, bad footwork, throwing the ball up for grabs. Yikes.


Play six bad teams in a row, bad habits can form. Things you get away with against some teams, not so much against others.

Atocep 10-14-2023 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3414682)
Caleb Williams looks terrible. No discipline, bad footwork, throwing the ball up for grabs. Yikes.


He's got incredible talent, has a great feel for the game, and anticipates guys coming open pretty well, but he freelances a ton and Notre Dame is playing very disciplined football on defense.

JonInMiddleGA 10-14-2023 08:16 PM

Okay, last week Cristobal made the dumbest coaching call in at least two decades.

Just now the DC runs onto the field for no actual reason, giving UNC a 4th & 1 conversion via penalty.

I don't think it's unreasonable to feel like drug testing the coaching staff in Miami is appropriate.

Ksyrup 10-14-2023 08:17 PM

Another monumental Miami coaching screw up. UNC has 4th and 2, Miami D has no clue who should be on the field but ref is holding up the snap while they substitute. Cristobal finally calls TO but not before his DC runs half-way onto the field yelling at the refs or his players - not sure. Either way, he gets a flag. So Miami loses a TO and UNC gets an automatic 1st down.

Ksyrup 10-14-2023 08:18 PM

Hey, you beat me to it!

Brian Swartz 10-14-2023 08:42 PM

How will watching other teams beat up on Iowa/Wisconsin be better/different than what Penn State already did to Iowa this year? It's not like either one of them have been winning the conference lately. Occasionally winning the division when they are on a good year and losing, usually badly, in the championship game. I don't see how it changes much re:them, they'll just have more losses but they'll still be what they are.

Atocep 10-14-2023 09:15 PM

Cristobal makes some interesting decisions.

JonInMiddleGA 10-14-2023 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3414692)
Cristobal makes some interesting decisions.


Could very well be the lowest football IQ of any coach in history

Ksyrup 10-14-2023 09:25 PM

Damn, ND!

They got their asses handed to them last week against Louisville, who got embarrassed by Pitt tonight. And ND is destroying USC. Of course.

JonInMiddleGA 10-14-2023 09:30 PM

re: ND

38 points on just 234 yards (as of my typing) is kind of impressive

Ksyrup 10-14-2023 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3414692)
Cristobal makes some interesting decisions.


Like calling TO, sending 12 men onto the field, and still giving up a TD?

Atocep 10-14-2023 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3414696)
Like calling TO, sending 12 men onto the field, and still giving up a TD?


Or declining a penalty that would have made it 2nd and 30 and pushed UNC out of FG range and then giving up a TD on the next play.

Ksyrup 10-14-2023 09:41 PM

I wish I had looked at tonight's schedule before cashing in last night at 11:30. I could have stayed up for Colorado's meltdown and gone to sleep at 10:45 tonight.

bronconick 10-14-2023 09:45 PM

L oh Fucking L USC

JonInMiddleGA 10-14-2023 09:54 PM

48 points on just 251 yards offense.

I gotta think that's at least in some sort of record territory

bob 10-14-2023 10:05 PM

“Caleb Williams makes awful decisions when he’s under pressure and doesn’t have 10 seconds to scramble around. Thank god that won’t happen when he’s drafted to a bottom 5 team with no talent on either side of the-wait a minute.”

Brian Swartz 10-15-2023 08:44 AM

I didn't get to watch the game, but I've seen Caleb Williams look a lot better than that description. Makes me wonder what changed.

GrantDawg 10-16-2023 01:11 PM

Damn it. Brock Bowers is having surgery today for a high-ankle sprain. He will be out weeks.

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GrantDawg 10-17-2023 02:00 PM

Lol.

cuervo72 10-17-2023 02:42 PM

Whatever he kicked it was probably more accurate than a Purdue FG attempt.

RainMaker 10-17-2023 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3414843)
Damn it. Brock Bowers is having surgery today for a high-ankle sprain. He will be out weeks.


That sucks. Considering he's a top 10 pick, I wonder if he's back at all this season.

GrantDawg 10-17-2023 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3414986)
That sucks. Considering he's a top 10 pick, I wonder if he's back at all this season.

The surgery suggests he will try. It is a way to make it the ankle heal faster. If he wasn't trying to get back, he wouldn't have opted for it and let the ankle heal naturally. As it is, the earliest he would be back is most likely the SEC Championship game if Georgia plays in it. He may could push it a couple of weeks earlier, but that is risky.

Galaril 10-17-2023 02:59 PM

Air Force is 6-0 after a bitter rivalry game against Wyoming. It was a great game that came down to the wire after AFA fell behind 14-0. We are ranked 21st. First ranking since 2018 and first 6-0 start since 2002. Next up Navy and the inter service games always battles no matter the record. IF Air Force can get past Navy and at home against Army they have a punchers chance maybe better of going 13-0 and a potential NY6 bowl.

sovereignstar v2 10-17-2023 04:04 PM

No one with that schedule should make a NY6 bowl.

Galaril 10-17-2023 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2 (Post 3415011)
No one with that schedule should make a NY6 bowl.


Though I somewhat agree as far as a NY6 Bowl I assume that goes for Georgia too? There SOS is -5.61 and AF is -5.0
Both teams SOS will get better AF has a few teams at the end that will have good records and maybe ranked. Now if what you mean is no G5 team should be ever considered then just say that. I personally would love to see AF and Army and Navy as well drop to the FCS. I know we would do extremely well there.
I have heard from people in the AFA athletic program that they have a hard time getting big name schools to sign up for hone and away out of conference game week 1 or 2 game against them. Three reasons they said for this was first AFA does not have the home stadium size worth it. Second teams don’t want to. Waste time prepping in the off season for the wishbone offense. Lastly and related to number two wishbone can be problematic to deal with and the risk of losing is not worth it for big schools. Also, Air Force has two “mandatory” out of conference games each year and along with the Mountain west games needed they only have two slots open at the beginning of the season. I would like to see them do like big programs and have one cupcake game still but secondly get a top 25 team on the schedule. We did have in years past at least one but like I said most aren’t interested.
Also, it is worth mentioning Air Force has no scholarship athletes ( you have a military commitments like everyone else there) , no red shirt years, no NIL and no transfer portal.

GrantDawg 10-17-2023 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaril (Post 3415023)
Though I somewhat agree as far as a NY6 Bowl I assume that goes for Georgia too? There SOS is -5.61 and AF is -5.0
Both teams SOS will get better AF has a few teams at the end that will have good records and maybe ranked. Now if what you mean is no G5 team should be ever considered then just say that. I personally would love to see AF and Army and Navy as well drop to the FCS. I know we would do extremely well there.
I have heard from people in the AFA athletic program that they have a hard time getting big name schools to sign up for hone and away out of conference game week 1 or 2 game against them. Three reasons they said for this was first AFA does not have the home stadium size worth it. Second teams don’t want to. Waste time prepping in the off season for the wishbone offense. Lastly and related to number two wishbone can be problematic to deal with and the risk of losing is not worth it for big schools. Also, Air Force has two “mandatory” out of conference games each year and along with the Mountain west games needed they only have two slots open at the beginning of the season. I would like to see them do like big programs and have one cupcake game still but secondly get a top 25 team on the schedule. We did have in years past at least one but like I said most aren’t interested.
Also, it is worth mentioning Air Force has no scholarship athletes ( you have a military commitments like everyone else there) , no red shirt years, no NIL and no transfer portal.

Georgia has the 13th toughest SOS for opponents yet faced (not including the possible SEC Championship Game). Air Force has the 109th. Not exactly the same.

JonInMiddleGA 10-17-2023 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaril (Post 3415023)
Though I somewhat agree as far as a NY6 Bowl I assume that goes for Georgia too? There SOS is -5.61 and AF is -5.0


While I'm happy to shit on the UGA schedule as much as anybody (and happier than most), not sure who has that calculation.

Using ESPN solely for easy to see (I've looked at three others already earlier in the afternoon, the sad state of the AF schedule was consistent across all of them)

Air Force has a current SOS rank of 131 out of 133 FBS, Georgia is currently 102 ... but the remaining schedules are 94th vs 19th. That'll balance out quite a bit if both are hypothetically unbeaten.

JonInMiddleGA 10-17-2023 06:34 PM

Also probably worth noting that while only two FBS teams have a lower SOS than Air Force, one of them is Liberty ... currently 133/133 and with a remaining SOS that's just 122/133.

They're projected to remain unbeaten. There are currently only 3 non-P5 teams between them and Air Force, and one of those just lost to AF.

Galaril 10-17-2023 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3415025)
Georgia has the 13th toughest SOS for opponents yet faced (not including the possible SEC Championship Game). Air Force has the 109th. Not exactly the same.


Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3415026)
While I'm happy to shit on the UGA schedule as much as anybody (and happier than most), not sure who has that calculation.

Using ESPN solely for easy to see (I've looked at three others already earlier in the afternoon, the sad state of the AF schedule was consistent across all of them)

Air Force has a current SOS rank of 131 out of 133 FBS, Georgia is currently 102 ... but the remaining schedules are 94th vs 19th. That'll balance out quite a bit if both are hypothetically unbeaten.


Obviously I don’t think it reasonable to compare the two one plays in the SEC and th3 other the MWC but was pointing out at this point they have very similar SOS. I don’t ow anything about ESPNs ratings I use the Sports Reference.com. Site . It has Air Force as having the 116 and a -5.00 and Georgia is 119 and a -5.61 at this point. As they have games against Bama and Tennessee among others there SOS will go up as will Air Forces. Air Forces won’t go up any where near as high as Georgia but from SOS numerical rating they may not be as far off as some might finish the season playing three ranked teams at the end which I suspect will I prove there SOS. My point is yes they probably don’t deserve to be in the Fiesta Bowl but neither did Tulane last year and they beat a Clemson

Swaggs 10-18-2023 07:52 AM

It gets back into rewarding the best team versus rewarding the best season. If Air Force goes 13-0, that would be a pretty amazing season, regardless of the schedule. I would guess they'd have a tough time finishing over .500 in the SEC (if that), but I'd be more likely to watch a NY6 bowl game with a 13-0, wish-bone running Air Force team play a P2/3/4/5? runner up than to see the 3rd or 4th place team from one of those conferences play in it.

Galaril 10-18-2023 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs (Post 3415099)
It gets back into rewarding the best team versus rewarding the best season. If Air Force goes 13-0, that would be a pretty amazing season, regardless of the schedule. I would guess they'd have a tough time finishing over .500 in the SEC (if that), but I'd be more likely to watch a NY6 bowl game with a 13-0, wish-bone running Air Force team play a P2/3/4/5? runner up than to see the 3rd or 4th place team from one of those conferences play in it.


Agreed but now that Air Forces starting QB is out for a while with a knee injury they likely will start dropping some games so this is probably not going to matter.
I wouldn’t be surprised to if they lose to Navy this weekend.

tarcone 10-18-2023 01:12 PM

B10 Championship game or Bowl game? Which one should I attend? One is a guaranteed blow out the other would be closer. One I will probably never get a chance to attend again, the other is every season.

What would you choose?

Honolulu_Blue 10-18-2023 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone (Post 3415126)
B10 Championship game or Bowl game? Which one should I attend? One is a guaranteed blow out the other would be closer. One I will probably never get a chance to attend again, the other is every season.

What would you choose?


Probably the Bowl game. Whoever Iowa plays in the B10 Championship game will very likely destroy them.

Ghost Econ 10-18-2023 01:37 PM

Iowa football has scored 4 more offensive TDs in the last 4 games than this board combined.

Iowa is 32/83 passing in those 4 games.

sovereignstar v2 10-18-2023 02:00 PM

I'm feeling more confident than usual that the Gophers can actually beat Iowa on the road this year.

tarcone 10-18-2023 02:26 PM

Minnesota will be lucky to score. This Iowa defense has an edge. It is as talented as any I have seen, but nastier.

sovereignstar v2 10-18-2023 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone (Post 3415140)
Minnesota will be lucky to score. This Iowa defense has an edge. It is as talented as any I have seen, but nastier.


talk to the hand


Swaggs 10-18-2023 03:25 PM

Iowa sitting with a 6-1 record and being only +42 in scoring is a really strange statistic to wrap your head around. Especially when you consider that they have only had one win where the margin was less than a touchdown (and even that was a 6-point win) and that they have a 31-point win on their resume. The math shouldn't work, but it does.

tarcone 10-18-2023 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs (Post 3415153)
Iowa sitting with a 6-1 record and being only +42 in scoring is a really strange statistic to wrap your head around. Especially when you consider that they have only had one win where the margin was less than a touchdown (and even that was a 6-point win) and that they have a 31-point win on their resume. The math shouldn't work, but it does.


The offense has 1732 total yards while punter Tory Taylor has 2272 yards.

I have a NIL t-shirt from Taylor that says "Punting is Winning"

JonInMiddleGA 10-18-2023 06:23 PM

Former Georgia football LB makes shocking confession in federal court

That'd be a UGA staff member "player development" who didn't know what to do when asked by police about his former roommate involvement in a senseless murder. Well, not until he called the program "fixer" anyway.

Hey, no problem with the guy covering himself with a lawyer and all.

Where this makes it impossible to justify this piece of trash remaining on staff is that he not only remained friends with the killer but actually went into business with him.

I wonder how they'll eventually remodel The Fulmer Cup into the Fulmer/Smart trophy?

Atocep 10-18-2023 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3415180)
I wonder how they'll eventually remodel The Fulmer Cup into the Fulmer/Smart trophy?


I'm starting to think Kirby paid off the Fulmer Cup guys to end it when they did in 2021.

JonInMiddleGA 10-18-2023 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3415181)
I'm starting to think Kirby paid off the Fulmer Cup guys to end it when they did in 2021.


The fall from grace will be glorious ... I just wonder how many people will literally die before we get to that point.

GrantDawg 10-18-2023 06:52 PM

Lots from jealousy. It is quite fatal.

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JonInMiddleGA 10-18-2023 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3415185)
Lots from jealousy. It is quite fatal.

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I called out GT for having a drug smuggler (though they suspended him, a judge ordered him back onto the team .. but they shouldn't have played him)

I called out UT for pretty much everything.

If you think I'm gonna avoid doing so when it's the most unlikable lowest class program in sports history, you're out of your fucking tree.

That I hold Hamas, Al Qaida, and North Korea in higher regard than UGA Athletics is not hyperbole in the slightest.

GrantDawg 10-18-2023 07:16 PM

I don't care about calling out crap. Call away. I think Kirby goes down about the time Saban does, though. Never.

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GrantDawg 10-19-2023 02:05 PM

Anyone believing this Michigan cheating rumor?

bob 10-19-2023 02:08 PM

Are you talking about this?

"using unnamed individuals to attend games of both scheduled opponents and possible College Football Playoff opponents in an effort to gather information on the signs they use to call both offensive and defensive plays. "

I'd be amazed if EVERY team doesn't do that.

GrantDawg 10-19-2023 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bob (Post 3415269)
Are you talking about this?

"using unnamed individuals to attend games of both scheduled opponents and possible College Football Playoff opponents in an effort to gather information on the signs they use to call both offensive and defensive plays. "

I'd be amazed if EVERY team doesn't do that.

Sign stealing? Maybe, but I wouldn't think so. They heavily research tendencies, but I doubt everyone has a large sign stealing scheme.

bob 10-19-2023 02:21 PM

I assume that anyone with a large enough budget is doing everything they can to win. Too much money to believe otherwise.

HerRealName 10-19-2023 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3415268)
Anyone believing this Michigan cheating rumor?


They've certainly established this reputation over the last several years.

Will Ohio State’s aerial attack shred Michigan’s defense? Was UM built solely for this matchup? - The Athletic

One other wrinkle in this matchup: “I think Michigan is really good at stealing your signals,” said one Big Ten running backs coach. “They got our stuff early and they got us on both sides.”

GrantDawg 10-19-2023 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bob (Post 3415272)
I assume that anyone with a large enough budget is doing everything they can to win. Too much money to believe otherwise.

Then there are many teams with lots of money really bad at it. Have to think USC's defense would be better if they knew the opponents play in advanced.

bob 10-19-2023 02:48 PM

I mean, I remember a few years ago ND making a big deal about sending in every play to the huddle against Clemson to avoid them since it was known that Clemson was really good at stealing signs.

GrantDawg 10-19-2023 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bob (Post 3415281)
I mean, I remember a few years ago ND making a big deal about sending in every play to the huddle against Clemson to avoid them since it was known that Clemson was really good at stealing signs.

But generally those things happen when teams get lazy. The sign guy has a tell or such as that. I have sat in on a coaches meeting where they caught something like that before at the High School level. It didn't involve a vast conspiracy. Hiring the numbers you would need to have to do something like this just begs getting caught. That's why I question whether Michigan is doing it.


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