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LoneStarGirl 12-19-2006 06:04 PM

vote fouts

LoneStarGirl 12-19-2006 06:05 PM

Anyway, I am going Christmas shopping and out to dinner. I wont be back till lynch time!

DaddyTorgo 12-19-2006 06:09 PM

no, i don't really think you'd be that dumb LSG. but you never know. maybe you didn't intend for it to happen.

*shrugs* it's a starting point at least, and we're definately under the radar as far as time goes.

DaddyTorgo 12-19-2006 06:11 PM

errr...under the gun. mixed my metaphors there

Fouts 12-19-2006 06:12 PM

Dubb all but gives his 00 number and nobody switches their vote?

Fouts 12-19-2006 06:19 PM

My vote is simple. Barkeep mentioned he had a strange name, so I called him on it. Is there any evidence for anyone else? Are you happy with some random vote?

It seems obvious to me, but then again, you can't read my role. I am the next agent in line after dubb.

Another option is that path and blade each voted each other on day 1, then both jumped on dubb. Dubb claims his 00 number and neither switches their vote.

DaddyTorgo 12-19-2006 06:21 PM

no Fouts, and here's why

To make matters worse, British Intelligence states that somehow Auric was able to get his hands on a list of current agent numbers. He'll know how many are out there looking for him!

This simply means the bad guys will start with a list of what agent numbers are in the game and which are available, which could be used for fake reveals. I originally wanted a mechanism in place to prevent people from just coming out and saying oh I'm agent so and so, and quickly eliminating all of the bad guys.

DaddyTorgo 12-19-2006 06:22 PM

dubb has been very quiet though. to the tune of 2 posts in 2 days.

dubb93 12-19-2006 06:25 PM

Well, DT, if I had that list of numbers I would know if agent 000 or whatever was in the game. I have no clue, I do however know that my agent number is in and I've all but given that away to preserve myself.

DaddyTorgo 12-19-2006 06:29 PM

okay. but given that i don't think LSG has been that suspicious, where would you have us turn our attention? Fouts? Barkeep? Chief Rum (who has escaped all scrutiny so far, just for the record)

dubb93 12-19-2006 06:36 PM

As I've already stated I would like more information from Fouts and Barkeep, but anything out of Chief would be good too. Heck, as Fouts brought up there seems to be a Blade/Path connection/reversal of fate as yesterday they voted each other yet today they combine to bandwagon me. But if the vote stays on me we learn nothing other than I was telling the truth and lose a day in the process.

Fouts 12-19-2006 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1338188)
no Fouts, and here's why

To make matters worse, British Intelligence states that somehow Auric was able to get his hands on a list of current agent numbers. He'll know how many are out there looking for him!

This simply means the bad guys will start with a list of what agent numbers are in the game and which are available, which could be used for fake reveals. I originally wanted a mechanism in place to prevent people from just coming out and saying oh I'm agent so and so, and quickly eliminating all of the bad guys.


Ah ok, so if an agent number isn't in the game, they will use it.

Fouts 12-19-2006 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl (Post 1338170)
Daddy, do you really think if I was a bad guy I would go after the person I vocally suspected? I am not that dumb. Also, I dont think what happened between me and DC can be considered a cat fight. It wasn't much of anything. Now I am usually a very quiet player, so I wont hold that against Dubb. But I think Fouts is throwing a lot of accusations at Blade that don't really make sense to me. Fouts is a veteran and a good player, and he is relatively under the radar.

[b] vote fouts [b/]


Two things;

1) As of your post, I hadn't said anything about blade.

2) I thought I was the only person really interogating someone, how is that under the radar?

Fouts 12-19-2006 06:44 PM

I don't like dubb as a candidate, and nobody is going with me on Barkeep. Anyone have any other ideas?

dubb93 12-19-2006 06:46 PM

Fouts what the heck do you mean exactly by you have no name and we should know what you are talking about? Do you mean you have no 00 number, or that you only have a 00 number? Or is it something entirely different?

dubb93 12-19-2006 06:47 PM

B/C I'll go on record right now as saying I do have a 00 number, but no "name" to go along with it. If we assume the 00 number is your name, then the 00 number is my name. But this is something that has me completely confused between you and barkeep.

DaddyTorgo 12-19-2006 06:47 PM

i might be willing to entertain a vote for barkeep. I think that's still pretty thin evidence to base a vote on though.

Fouts 12-19-2006 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93 (Post 1338210)
Fouts what the heck do you mean exactly by you have no name and we should know what you are talking about? Do you mean you have no 00 number, or that you only have a 00 number? Or is it something entirely different?


When I read his post I took it to mean he had a strange name. It didn't occur to me that he was refering to a strange 00 number as his name, if that is what he meant.

I have no name. I have a 00 number that comes right after yours.

DaddyTorgo 12-19-2006 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93 (Post 1338212)
B/C I'll go on record right now as saying I do have a 00 number, but no "name" to go along with it. If we assume the 00 number is your name, then the 00 number is my name. But this is something that has me completely confused between you and barkeep.


why'd you just shoot your wad there dubb? that would have been a nice piece of evidence to catch them in...

DaddyTorgo 12-19-2006 06:51 PM

and what would a strange 00 number be?

Fouts 12-19-2006 06:53 PM

3 dubb - DT, path, blade
2 fouts - Barkeep, LSG
1 DT - Chief Rum
1 Barkeep - Fouts

not voted - dubb

Fouts 12-19-2006 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1338220)
why'd you just shoot your wad there dubb? that would have been a nice piece of evidence to catch them in...


This was mentioned on day 1 between Barkeep and I.

Fouts 12-19-2006 06:54 PM

BTW, 3 three votes on dubb were within a half hour of each other. Very suspicious move.

Fouts 12-19-2006 06:57 PM

dubb, I'm willing to follow your vote to get somebody bad. Any ideas?

dubb93 12-19-2006 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1338222)
and what would a strange 00 number be?


That would require Barkeep to come into the thread and shed light on his number. I'll admit as I said yesterday I fail to see how a 00 number could be lame and/or funny as he was implying yesterday.

DaddyTorgo 12-19-2006 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fouts (Post 1338225)
This was mentioned on day 1 between Barkeep and I.


mmmhmm. so dubb shouldn't get any credit for mentioning it here either.

i'm not wedded to my dubb vote (and the three were all spaced close together b/c blade+path+i were all in the thread discussing it this afternoon), but I don't really know that Barkeep has done anything to warrant lynching him. Aside from that one "name" comment?

dubb93 12-19-2006 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fouts (Post 1338228)
dubb, I'm willing to follow your vote to get somebody bad. Any ideas?


I have no inside information, but I think going with Barkeep could prehaps turn up someone bad as I fail to see any logic in his 00 number claim. Also as you said, prehaps going somewhere between Path or Blade could provide us some information. I've really got no experience in this small games, I usually need more time b/f my analysis becomes useful.

dubb93 12-19-2006 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1338230)
mmmhmm. so dubb shouldn't get any credit for mentioning it here either.

i'm not wedded to my dubb vote (and the three were all spaced close together b/c blade+path+i were all in the thread discussing it this afternoon), but I don't really know that Barkeep has done anything to warrant lynching him. Aside from that one "name" comment?


What exactly DT doing besides acting clueless and discrediting us Fouts? He is apart of the bandwagon on me at the moment.

DaddyTorgo 12-19-2006 07:01 PM

i would support a barkeep vote as well. I would not support a blade vote however. he has been playing too quiet to be bad, especially in a small game where his usual antics could cause a lot of confusion for the side of evil.

Fouts 12-19-2006 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1338230)
mmmhmm. so dubb shouldn't get any credit for mentioning it here either.

i'm not wedded to my dubb vote (and the three were all spaced close together b/c blade+path+i were all in the thread discussing it this afternoon), but I don't really know that Barkeep has done anything to warrant lynching him. Aside from that one "name" comment?


dubb gets credit from me for being the first to claim a number. Too ballsy for a bad guy, IMO. Of course, this was before you mentioned they had a list of numbers in the game. Still, I get the feeling from his posts that he is on my side.

DaddyTorgo 12-19-2006 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93 (Post 1338235)
What exactly DT doing besides acting clueless and discrediting us Fouts? He is apart of the bandwagon on me at the moment.


discrediting you?

Fouts 12-19-2006 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93 (Post 1338235)
What exactly DT doing besides acting clueless and discrediting us Fouts? He is apart of the bandwagon on me at the moment.


DT vote?

Pro - deciding lynch vote on DC. Started bandwagon on dubb. Isn't usually active unless he is under suspicion.

Con - is actually playing the game, mentioned the agent numbers in the hands of the bad guys.

DaddyTorgo 12-19-2006 07:07 PM

and "acting clueless" as you like to call it dubb, has a way of stimulating conversation, which is our only source of information.

dubb93 12-19-2006 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1338240)
discrediting you?


Just seems like you are going out of your way to "not give me credit" for anything that I am saying.

dubb93 12-19-2006 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1338242)
and "acting clueless" as you like to call it dubb, has a way of stimulating conversation, which is our only source of information.


Yea, but it was not what I expected after you dug through the thread hard enough to count my complete number of posts in the thread.

DaddyTorgo 12-19-2006 07:11 PM

and i'm not under suspiscion, so why would i be active fouts?

unless i was good and trying to work through things.

forgive my crazy-mind too, if you recall i've been up since 4:30am EST at this point, so I can be a bit jumbled and spacey and ADD at this point.

DaddyTorgo 12-19-2006 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93 (Post 1338243)
Just seems like you are going out of your way to "not give me credit" for anything that I am saying.


fair enough. i guess i am. sorry bout that.

DaddyTorgo 12-19-2006 07:12 PM

what about Chief Rum guys? any feeling on him versus Barkeep?

Fouts 12-19-2006 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1338246)
and i'm not under suspiscion, so why would i be active fouts?

unless i was good and trying to work through things.

forgive my crazy-mind too, if you recall i've been up since 4:30am EST at this point, so I can be a bit jumbled and spacey and ADD at this point.


Under suspicion because you cast the lynching vote for DC, and received the first vote of the day.

dubb93 12-19-2006 07:15 PM

I always like to throw my vote away on day 1 if I am a bad guy, prehaps even putting it on another bad guy. I don't like my vote to go on a person that ends up getting lynched that day, unless they are bad. With that in mind the two throw away votes were Path and Blade as they voted for each other.

Now on day 2 they both vote me early. I think something is fishy with one of them atleast.

On the other hand, when I am a villager I like to make my vote count on every day. I don't like throw away votes. I want to vote for someone I either think could be bad or that I don't want in the game anymore regardless of the day. I just don't see why in such a small game Blade and Path would throw their votes away and then allign themselves today.

Fouts 12-19-2006 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1338250)
what about Chief Rum guys? any feeling on him versus Barkeep?


Hard to get any feel of Chief Rum. He rarely is under the gun to answer questions immediately. Since he is away all day, he gets time to read and decide how to answer them at his leisure.

Fouts 12-19-2006 07:19 PM

I agree about path and blade. Getting close to the deadline, though. If we're going to make a move, we need to do it soon.

DaddyTorgo 12-19-2006 07:22 PM

Path then?

dubb93 12-19-2006 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1338274)
Path then?


Any reason you are so against a Blade vote DT?

Fouts 12-19-2006 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1338274)
Path then?


Going to look at his posts.

DaddyTorgo 12-19-2006 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93 (Post 1338276)
Any reason you are so against a Blade vote DT?


well i just played a game with him where we were evil together and he hasn't acted at all like he did in that game.

in a small game especially i think if he was evil he'd be full-force in his crazy-persona to try to sow suspiscion around. the quieter blade is actually more beneficial to the good-guys.

if we can articulate a case against Path that makes sense to me in the next half hour I will be happy to vote Path with you two and put him up for the lynch. At least if he's innocent it'll give me pause to look at the both of you.

Fouts 12-19-2006 07:30 PM

Sorry, I don't get anything from path's posts to make him look bad. He sounds like a good guy to me.

Fouts 12-19-2006 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1338067)
The rules say 2.5...it is a public roles game i believe, and since i didnt see alan say all roles may not be in the game i assume we have 2 evils and one turncoat(galore).

I stated my thoughts on barkeep pretty clearly yesterday, and i suspect lathum died protecting him. So if we go down that road i can tell you without a doubt my vote would fall on fouts.

Frankly, im more inclined to vote dubb right now. Hes a smart player, and being quiet is not helping us at all. At least barkeep and fouts are discussing...


I am more suspicious of blade. Here he gives us doom and gloom, predicting the night actions (as most bad guys do), and wants to vote for dubb. Then he gives us a disappearing act.

dubb93 12-19-2006 07:35 PM

Screw this crap. DT, vote where you want to, to tell you the truth, a vote for me will put a huge target on you as I'm not completely sure you are clean what with discrediting everything I have said, I'm going with my gut on this one.

VOTE BLADE

DaddyTorgo 12-19-2006 07:36 PM

hmm


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