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ntndeacon 11-06-2006 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grammaticus (Post 1296346)
Ntndeacon,

Do you have in game information on Blade (Valen Gutters)?


No I don't Gramm.

Jonathan Ezarik 11-06-2006 02:35 PM

As I see it, the voting stands at:

KWhit - 1 (by Tyrith)
ntndeacon - 1 (by Swaggs)
spleen1015 - 2 (by Chief Rum, BrianD)
Swaggs - 1 (by ntndeacon)
Neuqua - 1 (by spleen)
SnDvls - 1 (by st.cronin)
DaddyTorgo - 2 (by Grammaticus, Lathum)

We haven't heard from KWhit, Scoobz0202, or Neuqua.

Do we want to start narrowing down our choices now, or should we sit around like a bunch of pansies and wait for the Forces of Darkness to pick us off one by one?

Alan T 11-06-2006 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik (Post 1296577)
As I see it, the voting stands at:

KWhit - 1 (by Tyrith)
ntndeacon - 1 (by Swaggs)
spleen1015 - 2 (by Chief Rum, BrianD)
Swaggs - 1 (by ntndeacon)
Neuqua - 1 (by spleen)
SnDvls - 1 (by st.cronin)
DaddyTorgo - 2 (by Grammaticus, Lathum)

We haven't heard from KWhit, Scoobz0202, or Neuqua.

Do we want to start narrowing down our choices now, or should we sit around like a bunch of pansies and wait for the Forces of Darkness to pick us off one by one?


Well instead of waiting for others to narrow it down for you, who would you narrow it down to and why? Since you haven't voted yet, who are you looking to vote for?

SnDvls 11-06-2006 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith (Post 1296482)
When we started looking at it on day 4 and using it as motivation to start killing people.


It also fell out when the GM's caught on that people were using their role PM to figure out who everyone else was too. simply by putting the phrase that refered to them as normal or regular when they checked in and other's picked up on it. GM's began to make mulitiple unique PMs to all regular and normal villagers so no one could compare.

SnDvls 11-06-2006 02:38 PM

I think Neuqua is having a family emergency...I'll double check the outside board, but I recall a post of his from there.

BRB

Alan T 11-06-2006 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls (Post 1296581)
I think Neuqua is having a family emergency...I'll double check the outside board, but I recall a post of his from there.

BRB


That would be good to know, since he is where I was leaning today so far.

SnDvls 11-06-2006 02:39 PM

here's the thread

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=54031

SnDvls 11-06-2006 02:40 PM

he seems to be logged in, but that doesn't mean he's actually at a computer now though as I'm usually always logged in and "viewing" throughout the day, but it's usually just an open window at my computer here at work.

SnDvls 11-06-2006 02:42 PM

just posted a "Ping" to the three that havent' checked in yet in the GD board

ntndeacon 11-06-2006 02:43 PM

As I said earlier I have not pre game info on Blade. (or anyone else ) I was role playing as was speculated . I am a poor Tomato Farmer. I was using the "fact" that Blade was not above going into someone's house without permission as his ramblings seemed to say.

It could have been those thieving Tookses too. :D

spleen1015 11-06-2006 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik (Post 1296577)
Do we want to start narrowing down our choices now, or should we sit around like a bunch of pansies and wait for the Forces of Darkness to pick us off one by one?


Needing 13 votes to lynch someone makes it unlikely that there will be a lynch on Day 1. It really doesn't make any sense to have one in a game this large. I'd much rather save a hobbit.

Jonathan Ezarik 11-06-2006 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1296579)
Well instead of waiting for others to narrow it down for you, who would you narrow it down to and why? Since you haven't voted yet, who are you looking to vote for?


I've already mentioned that I'm leaning towards Blade, but since no one has voted for him I don't want to muddy the waters with another candidate.

Blade6119 11-06-2006 02:48 PM

People need to lighten up...people like LSG and Schmidty said they are really annoyed by my role-playing..lighten up folks, its a game

spleen1015 11-06-2006 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1296605)
People need to lighten up...people like LSG and Schmidty said they are really annoyed by my role-playing..lighten up folks, its a game


You said it.

Jonathan Ezarik 11-06-2006 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015 (Post 1296601)
Needing 13 votes to lynch someone makes it unlikely that there will be a lynch on Day 1. It really doesn't make any sense to have one in a game this large. I'd much rather save a hobbit.


Will it be any easier on day 2 when we still need 13 votes to lynch someone?

spleen1015 11-06-2006 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik (Post 1296608)
Will it be any easier on day 2 when we still need 13 votes to lynch someone?


Not really. We do have voting records and night actions to go by at that point though.

SnDvls 11-06-2006 02:52 PM

VOTE Scoobz0202

he's one of three people not to check in and of the three he's the one I know the least about.
subject to change if he checks in and either of the other two don't

Blade6119 11-06-2006 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015 (Post 1296610)
Not really. We do have voting records and night actions to go by at that point though.


Voting records wont mean as much without a lynch

BrianD 11-06-2006 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1296605)
People need to lighten up...people like LSG and Schmidty said they are really annoyed by my role-playing..lighten up folks, its a game


For what it is worth, I thought it was pretty fun.

Fouts 11-06-2006 02:53 PM

Pretty quiet today. I'm going to put my vote on somebody who hasn't checked in, and try to get them talking.

vote KWhit

Blade6119 11-06-2006 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianD (Post 1296616)
For what it is worth, I thought it was pretty fun.


Oh, i intend to continue it for the duration of my life in this game. I have a role that strongly ecourages role-playing, and i intend to follow it through to the end of my stay in Bree.

i just wanted to address all the people seeminly upset by it

spleen1015 11-06-2006 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1296615)
Voting records wont mean as much without a lynch


Doh! Nicely done, spleen.

SnDvls 11-06-2006 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianD (Post 1296616)
For what it is worth, I thought it was pretty fun.


I enjoied it too Blade so keep it up. remindes me of my time like in the Lost WW game as Sawyer.

spleen1015 11-06-2006 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianD (Post 1296616)
For what it is worth, I thought it was pretty fun.


I enjoyed it, too.

Lathum 11-06-2006 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1296605)
People need to lighten up...people like LSG and Schmidty said they are really annoyed by my role-playing..lighten up folks, its a game


you annoy me but the role playing has nothing to do with it :)

Blade6119 11-06-2006 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1296626)
you annoy me but the role playing has nothing to do with it :)


I accept that fact, and take pleasure in blocking your win then killing you in the small game...so for now, i hold bragging rights :)

SnDvls 11-06-2006 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1296626)
you annoy me but the role playing has nothing to do with it :)


ZING!

Jonathan Ezarik 11-06-2006 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015 (Post 1296601)
I'd much rather save a hobbit.


You seem to forget that Bree is a human settlement. The hobbits are our guests. I like the little buggars, but if comes down to losing a few hobbits or losing Bree to the forces of darkness, I'm side with Bree every time.

Grammaticus 11-06-2006 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik (Post 1296577)
As I see it, the voting stands at:

KWhit - 1 (by Tyrith)
ntndeacon - 1 (by Swaggs)
spleen1015 - 2 (by Chief Rum, BrianD)
Swaggs - 1 (by ntndeacon)
Neuqua - 1 (by spleen)
SnDvls - 1 (by st.cronin)
DaddyTorgo - 2 (by Grammaticus, Lathum)

We haven't heard from KWhit, Scoobz0202, or Neuqua.

Do we want to start narrowing down our choices now, or should we sit around like a bunch of pansies and wait for the Forces of Darkness to pick us off one by one?


I would add Thomkal to the list of those who have been out of site and out of mind.

Jonathan Ezarik 11-06-2006 03:02 PM

VOTE KWhit

For the same reasons Fouts mentioned.

Jonathan Ezarik 11-06-2006 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grammaticus (Post 1296640)
I would add Thomkal to the list of those who have been out of site and out of mind.


But he did check in, I believe.

SnDvls 11-06-2006 03:06 PM

He did post #150

Blade6119 11-06-2006 03:06 PM

I know saldana was waiting for this, so before i get back into character

VOTE ALAN T

Lathum 11-06-2006 03:09 PM

I really think we need to swing the votes towards 2-3 candidates so we can start establishing some voting patternes that will help us down the road. If we do nothing today then we are in the same boat tomorrow.

The way we are headed 3-4 villegars will be killed before any lynchings happen unless there are night actions unknown to me and that is not acceptable.

Grammaticus 11-06-2006 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015 (Post 1296601)
Needing 13 votes to lynch someone makes it unlikely that there will be a lynch on Day 1. It really doesn't make any sense to have one in a game this large. I'd much rather save a hobbit.


Passing on a lynch always hurts the villagers. The only exception I can think of is an end game scenario. Here is a link to the Wiki site. Read the section about No Lynch. They are calling the game mafia, which is just another form of werewolf. Here it is quoted:

Quote:

"No lynch" or "No kill" - sometimes the Innocents are allowed to vote not to kill anyone on a particular daytime cycle. In general, although Villagers will often feel they do not have enough information to kill someone, this is a bad choice because the Villagers are more likely to vote off a Mafia member than the Mafia are to kill a Mafia member. Furthermore, because a player's role is generally revealed when that player is lynched, it provides the Villagers with reliable and irrefutable information. However, when there are an even number of Villagers, this can be a good choice. For example, when there are four Villagers remaining (including one Mafia), voting not to kill someone will result in a 1/3 chance to kill the Mafia the next day as opposed to a 1/4 chance. Note than voting incorrectly in either situation will end the game (resulting in a 1 Mafia/1 Innocent standoff, which is almost always resolved by the Narrator in favor of the Mafia).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_(game

Alan T 11-06-2006 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik (Post 1296634)
You seem to forget that Bree is a human settlement. The hobbits are our guests. I like the little buggars, but if comes down to losing a few hobbits or losing Bree to the forces of darkness, I'm side with Bree every time.


That is not entirely true. While men originally built the city, Hobbits have lived here for about 1500 years. Like it or not, Hobbits are as much a part of Bree as the men are.

SnDvls 11-06-2006 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1296658)
I really think we need to swing the votes towards 2-3 candidates so we can start establishing some voting patternes that will help us down the road. If we do nothing today then we are in the same boat tomorrow.

The way we are headed 3-4 villegars will be killed before any lynchings happen unless there are night actions unknown to me and that is not acceptable.



we kinda are that way now w/ Spleen, Daddy Torgo & Kwhit all having 2 or more votes.
If Kwhit doesn't check in I'm sure more will move in his direction as per the recent flow and trend in WW games

Schmidty 11-06-2006 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1296605)
People need to lighten up...people like LSG and Schmidty said they are really annoyed by my role-playing..lighten up folks, its a game


I don't need to lighten up when it comes to the game. You can claim that something is "only role-playing", but if you do something like that, it's automatically going to get scrutinized. You know that.

And yeah, it was annoying. I wasn't telling you to stop. I was just being honest.

Alan T 11-06-2006 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1296651)
I know saldana was waiting for this, so before i get back into character

VOTE ALAN T


I don't understand the reference to Saldana nor any reason for voting for me :)

Lathum 11-06-2006 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls (Post 1296663)
we kinda are that way now w/ Spleen, Daddy Torgo & Kwhit all having 2 or more votes.
If Kwhit doesn't check in I'm sure more will move in his direction as per the recent flow and trend in WW games


I think your wrong. If you had 2 votes would you or your teammates be worried? We need to string together enough votes for people to get nervous and make some moves they may not usually make.

SnDvls 11-06-2006 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1296687)
I think your wrong. If you had 2 votes would you or your teammates be worried? We need to string together enough votes for people to get nervous and make some moves they may not usually make.


ok I'm confused now :confused:
you said we need to get 2-3 canidates. I said it looks like we have about 2-3 now in the people w/ 2 votes each.

then you come back w/ the above?:confused:

I don't think anyone right now is worried as it takes 13 votes to lynch today. and no one is near that number. as it is right now we only have 13 voters. we'd all have to come back and vote the same way right now.

SnDvls 11-06-2006 03:42 PM

Anxiety- question for you

w/ 25 people now it requires a 50% plus 1 to lynch so today that means

25/2=12.5 + 1= 13.5 so does that mean we need 14 to lynch?

are you rounding up or down on this for future reference?

Mr. Wednesday 11-06-2006 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik (Post 1296634)
You seem to forget that Bree is a human settlement.

Originally, yes, but we've been living in harmony with the little folk for long enough that I think "guests" is not really a fair term for them.

KWhit 11-06-2006 03:49 PM

Just now checking in. Didn't realize we were starting today (I thought the game started Wednesday for some reason).

Anyhoo.... I am Celestia Avenspring - Farmer.

So um... Get your votes OFF ME!!!


:)

Alan T 11-06-2006 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls (Post 1296704)
Anxiety- question for you

w/ 25 people now it requires a 50% plus 1 to lynch so today that means

25/2=12.5 + 1= 13.5 so does that mean we need 14 to lynch?

are you rounding up or down on this for future reference?


Well I am not Anxiety, but he described the vote decision to be majority decided (not plurality). He simplified it by saying 50% +1, but if it is a majority like he said in the rules, it would be 13 votes. (without having to worry about rounding)

Lathum 11-06-2006 03:51 PM

no one is near that number because people keep scattering their votes. IMO no lynch is a huge advantage for the black riders and other bad guys

KWhit 11-06-2006 03:52 PM

Well, there's almost nothing to go on so far. The absolute only thing interesting so far is Blade's odd behavior.

Alan T 11-06-2006 03:53 PM

Well, was waiting to see who isn't checked in or who wasn't going to check in. Only ones left is Neuqua and Scoobz0202. I don't like voting for someone in their first game before they even have a chance to play, but also don't like voting for someone who is having RL issues and not being here is no fault of their own.

In the end though I guess I need to make some vote, and it will likely be random unless someone really messes up today and says something they shouldn't. I'll go with neuqua here since I have to pick someone, and it will be a second vote on him.

Vote Neuqua

Abe Sargent 11-06-2006 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls (Post 1296704)
Anxiety- question for you

w/ 25 people now it requires a 50% plus 1 to lynch so today that means

25/2=12.5 + 1= 13.5 so does that mean we need 14 to lynch?

are you rounding up or down on this for future reference?



13 is needed at 5 people. 13 is also needed at 24. 12 would be needed with 23. Etc.

Hope that helps!


-Anxiety

BrianD 11-06-2006 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1296719)
no one is near that number because people keep scattering their votes. IMO no lynch is a huge advantage for the black riders and other bad guys


I agree, no lynch is probably a huge advantage to the bad guys. We need to come up with a lynch tonight.


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