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Young Drachma 08-27-2008 09:06 PM

Canada
USA
Cuba
Dominican Republic
Japan
Mexico
Puerto Rico


We'd need an 8th country and none of the candidates out there really meet the smell test. I say we draft an 8th country, some unlikely place that doesn't really dominate baseball right now, but that we think should, create a bunch of VL players for them and have them join our lil' baseball frenzy, a la South Africa did in the WBC in real life.

Commo_Soldier 08-27-2008 09:06 PM

Who is the premier Aruban player in FOOL?

Chief Rum 08-27-2008 09:06 PM

The US might have too many good players actually. It might be more exciting to run a WBC in the form of the Little League. We'll set out regions of the US like they do for the LLWS, and have the players born in those regions play for those teams. Like a Pacific, Midwest, South, Atlantic sorta deal.

Young Drachma 08-27-2008 09:07 PM

Exports time.

muns 08-27-2008 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1817460)
I am going over the player nationalities right now. I was thinking it would be neat if we could stage our own WBC sometime.


Whats that Chief?

Chief Rum 08-27-2008 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier (Post 1817474)
To be fair I had him for three years, so I have looked at this more than anyone else.

Australian I would say Lang


You are correct again. You're some nationality aficianado, I see.

Chief Rum 08-27-2008 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muns (Post 1817482)
Whats that Chief?


World Baseball Classic.

Alan T 08-27-2008 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1817479)
The US might have too many good players actually. It might be more exciting to run a WBC in the form of the Little League. We'll set out regions of the US like they do for the LLWS, and have the players born in those regions play for those teams. Like a Pacific, Midwest, South, Atlantic sorta deal.



Yeah, it seems way too heavy weighted on the US side

Chief Rum 08-27-2008 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier (Post 1817478)
Who is the premier Aruban player in FOOL?


Damn, I just looked at Aruba. I thought no one came up, though.

Commo_Soldier 08-27-2008 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1817484)
You are correct again. You're some nationality aficianado, I see.


No you are just using Brownstone players. I hope I would be able to identify their nationality. That is why I asked the Aruban one.

Chief Rum 08-27-2008 09:09 PM

I just checked. That's right, forgot that. Yup, pretty good player there from Aruba.

muns 08-27-2008 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1817464)
I've created a stat here called the Right Track Index (RTI). RTI takes a team's VOCL over a three year period, weighting the most recent year higher, the next year less and the 3rd year less than that (55-30-15) to evaluate whether a team is on the 'right track' or not. The higher the number, the more 'on track' they are.

Our numbers are skewed in the sense that Valdosta has won three titles in a row and are clearly a juggernaut for the ages.

But that said...

Here's the numbers:

Code:

Team                        RTI
Valdosta Peanuts        667.2
Colorado Rancheros        90.7
Boston Settlers                -114.6
Brooklyn Brownstones        66.7
Rio Grande Roadrunners        66.3
Atlanta Firecrackers        -33.5
Quad City Thunderstorms        -342.7
Compton Brothers        -23.1
Ann Arbor Wolverines        -95.0
Baltimore Terrapins        -440.7
Toronto Atlantics        -564.9
New York Highlanders        -557.2
Hartford Harpooners        -731.7
El Paso Alligators        -721.9
Columbus Crusaders        -727.4
Texas Copperheads        -901.0


RTI tells us that at the end of 1972, Valdosta is clearly on a track all their own. This measure would be coupled with a RTI Chg that would reflect from year to year how much a team gained or lost in RTI, to really be able to track their performance over a particular period of time.

For me personally, it tells me that even though I know my team is getting out of a crazy situation, having just had our first two winning seasons in franchise history in the last two years, that we've still got a lot of work to do to be amongst the contenders like Colorado, Rio Grande, Brooklyn and Valdosta, all teams that have won titles in recent years.



Again, awesome work guys. Love reading this stuff!!!

Young Drachma 08-27-2008 09:13 PM

Trades processed now.

muns 08-27-2008 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1817486)
World Baseball Classic.



DUHH!!! lol I thought it was some other game you played somewhere else. Like the werewolf stuff you run.

Alan T 08-27-2008 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muns (Post 1817500)
DUHH!!! lol I thought it was some other game you played somewhere else. Like the werewolf stuff you run.


Chief is a werewolf?? I knew something was off about that guy.

Chief Rum 08-27-2008 09:14 PM

No one's saying, so I'll throw it out there. It is Anibal Ramirez.

Here's another one: Who is the best premier Dutch player in FOOL?

Here's a hint: he's a recent POY winner.

Commo_Soldier 08-27-2008 09:15 PM

Man I was just looking at the nationalities of players. Man Jamaica only only has one player, but what a player that will be a FA next year. 2B Anthony Payton of the Pirates who's potential is 99/99/84/87/72 and he is already close to max in all of those areas.

Young Drachma 08-27-2008 09:16 PM

Ivan Garcia signed a 5-year deal worth $27.1 million with New York

Commo_Soldier 08-27-2008 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1817504)
Ivan Garcia signed a 5-year deal worth $27.1 million with New York


Nice price cut for New York saving $2.5 million per year.

Young Drachma 08-27-2008 09:19 PM

RF Roy Richardson signed a 2-year deal worth $4.75 million with Colorado.

SP Roger Moore signed a 3-year deal worth $7.5 million

CF Ruben Mendoza signed a 3-year deal worth $26.79 million with Columbus

muns 08-27-2008 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1817504)
Ivan Garcia signed a 5-year deal worth $27.1 million with New York


Nice to see the AI not going with what he wanted. He wanted a 5-year deal worth 39,175,00

muns 08-27-2008 09:20 PM

Chief real nice signing, I was wondering if anyone bothered to look that deep into the file...... Thought i might get him on the cheap. KUDOS to you!!! He was on like the 17 or 18th page.

Young Drachma 08-27-2008 09:21 PM

Joey Higman signed a 1-year deal worth $17.94 million with Baltimore

muns 08-27-2008 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1817511)
Joey Higman signed a 1-year deal worth $17.94 million with Baltimore


WOW!!! congrats Eric.... im gonna be real interested to see what he wants to resign now.... Please do let us know.

Commo_Soldier 08-27-2008 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1817511)
Joey Higman signed a 1-year deal worth $17.94 million with Baltimore


Great, he goes to the team I despise the most in the CL.

Chief Rum 08-27-2008 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muns (Post 1817510)
Chief real nice signing, I was wondering if anyone bothered to look that deep into the file...... Thought i might get him on the cheap. KUDOS to you!!! He was on like the 17 or 18th page.


Thanks. I couldn't pass up a guy with strong ratings like that who was asking for so little. He gives me a leadoff hitter to replace Garcia, who signed for much, much more. Only downer is he isn't a good CF (but he might end up there anyway).

Young Drachma 08-27-2008 09:25 PM

MR Walt Withcombe signed a 2-yeal deal with Columbus for $8.5 million

Young Drachma 08-27-2008 09:25 PM

CL Anthony Zijm signed a 3-year deal worth $21 million with Toronto

muns 08-27-2008 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1817511)
Joey Higman signed a 1-year deal worth $17.94 million with Baltimore


anyone come close to that offer??? I only went to like 10.5 for 5 years, with the mvp incentive it was like 12 mil......

Chief Rum 08-27-2008 09:26 PM

Digging the Higman to Baltimore move. One year deal, too. I wonder what he was offered by other teams?

Baltimore and Atlanta making a lot of noise, Valdosta is still dangerous and tons of high talent teams in the CL like Brooklyn and Rio Grande still out there.

The CL is going to be a very interesting league to watch. Reminds me of the RL 4-5 years ago, when Compton, Colorado, Ann Arbor, Boston and Hartford all looked like top notch title contenders.

Chief Rum 08-27-2008 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muns (Post 1817519)
anyone come close to that offer??? I only went to like 10.5 for 5 years, with the mvp incentive it was like 12 mil......


You should have offered much more. He is worth taking up a 1/4 of your cap, at his age.

muns 08-27-2008 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1817514)
Thanks. I couldn't pass up a guy with strong ratings like that who was asking for so little. He gives me a leadoff hitter to replace Garcia, who signed for much, much more. Only downer is he isn't a good CF (but he might end up there anyway).


I cant blame you one bit. Thats a huge steal for you that def improves you. Im surprised he got released in the last file.....

Commo_Soldier 08-27-2008 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muns (Post 1817519)
anyone come close to that offer??? I only went to like 10.5 for 5 years, with the mvp incentive it was like 12 mil......


I offered him a 4 year deal for $11 million with up to $17 million in incentives.

muns 08-27-2008 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1817521)
You should have offered much more. He is worth taking up a 1/4 of your cap, at his age.


I thought about going with an offer of 18 which when I did the math I didnt think anyone could touch. I then looked at my spects and saw that 1b-Walter Little who is 21 might develop in 2 years with a lot better power numbers..... I then thought even with Higman at what 25-26 then, I still might have trouble getting what I thought he would be worth and thought better of my offer.

Im hoping in 2-4 years my guys will all be ready, and then I can spend the 18 mil or whatever on a guy that would help me win that year.

Even with Higman I wouldnt be able to touch you and the rest of the RL.... So to me It wasnt worth the risk of spending that much money

Young Drachma 08-27-2008 09:32 PM

I'm packing up the file now.

Alan T 08-27-2008 09:34 PM

This year will definitely be fun in the CL!

Commo_Soldier 08-27-2008 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1817502)
No one's saying, so I'll throw it out there. It is Anibal Ramirez.

Here's another one: Who is the best premier Dutch player in FOOL?

Here's a hint: he's a recent POY winner.


Since no one is guessing it is Ite Beans.

Chief Rum 08-27-2008 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1817476)
Canada
USA
Cuba
Dominican Republic
Japan
Mexico
Puerto Rico


We'd need an 8th country and none of the candidates out there really meet the smell test. I say we draft an 8th country, some unlikely place that doesn't really dominate baseball right now, but that we think should, create a bunch of VL players for them and have them join our lil' baseball frenzy, a la South Africa did in the WBC in real life.


Both Puerto Rico and the Dominican got screwed, as well as China, Taiwan, South Korea and Venezuela. Is there a way to amp up the nationalities in some of these areas?

Might be better to go with four or even eight American teams, then have the nations that can carry themselves (Cuba, Japan, Canada), then have a Carribean team (Puerto Rico, Dominican, etc.), a Central American team (Mexico and Central America) and a South American team. Maybe a Europe team or an Asia team. That would be six to eight non-American teams. Maybe create eight American teams then. Have four divisions of four teams that play round robin.

Best two in each group advance to next round, where they play round robin again. Best two on each side of the bracket play each other in a best-of-three series to go to the final. One big Final for all the moolah.

Chief Rum 08-27-2008 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier (Post 1817531)
Since no one is guessing it is Ite Beans.


Yup, you got it. Obviously, I knew that one.

Chief Rum 08-27-2008 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muns (Post 1817522)
I cant blame you one bit. Thats a huge steal for you that def improves you. Im surprised he got released in the last file.....


He was released in the last file? Had no idea. I only went looking in hios direction because the younger guys I went for signed elsewhere (deservedly for more money). Heck, I think I had a filter on to take out the older players, so I wouldn't have seen him anyway. ;)

Chief Rum 08-27-2008 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muns (Post 1817525)
I thought about going with an offer of 18 which when I did the math I didnt think anyone could touch. I then looked at my spects and saw that 1b-Walter Little who is 21 might develop in 2 years with a lot better power numbers..... I then thought even with Higman at what 25-26 then, I still might have trouble getting what I thought he would be worth and thought better of my offer.

Im hoping in 2-4 years my guys will all be ready, and then I can spend the 18 mil or whatever on a guy that would help me win that year.

Even with Higman I wouldnt be able to touch you and the rest of the RL.... So to me It wasnt worth the risk of spending that much money


Yeah, I could see that. Although even with Little, you're in the right league to have two 1B-men. :)

muns 08-27-2008 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1817534)
He was released in the last file? Had no idea. I only went looking in hios direction because the younger guys I went for signed elsewhere (deservedly for more money). Heck, I think I had a filter on to take out the older players, so I wouldn't have seen him anyway. ;)


Im just assuming he was, cause I didnt see him in the first FA stage, and I go through and through it...... maybe i just missed him, but I def dont remember seeing him cause I would have made an offer on him then too.

Young Drachma 08-27-2008 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1817532)
Both Puerto Rico and the Dominican got screwed, as well as China, Taiwan, South Korea and Venezuela. Is there a way to amp up the nationalities in some of these areas?


I've increased the foreigner percentage by a lot, so we should see an increase going forward. It's at 25% now. I can also rig the draft files to have more foreigners in them going forward, too. It'll mean I'll have to create them, but still...it's an idea.

muns 08-27-2008 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1817535)
Yeah, I could see that. Although even with Little, you're in the right league to have two 1B-men. :)


Your right, and to be perfectly honest with you, that thought didnt even cross my stinking mind.... :banghead:

Ahhh well thats 2 lessons learned for me in 2 nights.... I biffed up on an trade last night that im regretting, so might as well add this one to the mix as well.

muns 08-27-2008 09:50 PM

Id like to trade one more guy. OF/DH/ Rookie of the year last season Freddie Gonzalez can be had..... Would be a nice piece to add in the RL

Young Drachma 08-27-2008 09:54 PM

File is up, sorry.

kaosfere 08-27-2008 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1817549)
File is up, sorry.


Hey, cool! I'm tied for first place!


*enjoying it while it lasts*

Young Drachma 08-27-2008 10:00 PM

Here's the cap story:

Rank Team Payroll
1 Compton Brothers $68,242,530
2 Baltimore Terrapins $67,920,350
3 Columbus Crusaders $64,999,900
4 Colorado Rancheros $64,710,625
5 Atlanta Firecrackers $64,625,530
6 El Paso Alligators $62,856,500
7 Boston Settlers $62,842,180
8 Rio Grande Roadrunners $60,068,900
9 Valdosta Peanuts $58,913,850
10 Brooklyn Brownstones $57,485,750
11 Quad City Thunderstorms $56,719,600
12 New York Highlanders $56,521,330
13 Ann Arbor Wolverines $49,466,440
14 Texas Copperheads $44,443,200
15 Hartford Harpooners $43,175,200
16 Toronto Atlantics $42,200,220

Chief Rum 08-27-2008 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaosfere (Post 1817554)
Hey, cool! I'm tied for first place!


*enjoying it while it lasts*


Actually, I liked a lot of your moves. And technically, Toronto was middle of the pack last year in the CL. There is more optimism now for Toronto than two years ago when DDD left, that is for sure.

Chief Rum 08-27-2008 10:03 PM

I am probably inclined to move Alvarado for relatively cheap now, if anyone is so inclined. I could use a little more breathing room below the cap, and Alvarado is in his walk year anyway. I already have two fine catchers to play, so he is surplus to requirements.


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