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CrimsonFox 04-15-2012 04:55 PM

JAG what issss a barrow

Darth Vilus 04-15-2012 04:59 PM

Weekends suck lol, I want to go further already!

CrimsonFox 04-15-2012 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus (Post 2640865)
Weekends suck lol, I want to go further already!


++

So Dark LOrd you gonna have the ghouls kneeling to you anytime sssoon?

Zinto 04-15-2012 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols (Post 2640861)
Where my partners at?? Whats in the cards for you fellows on Monday morning?
I did a search of the room we were in friday afternoon, but no luck. I guess I am going to need to use that tentacle to help afford some food/torches at the djinni sale monday afternoon, if you guys want me to sell some stuff for you and get you some things while you take other actions in whatever our new room is, I can do that.



There is no sale on Monday Julio since it is an odd day either myself or bhlloy will need to send you food rations and/or a torch for the movement action tomorrow since I do not think you have the necessities to move forward.

PurdueBrad 04-15-2012 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG (Post 2640863)
Morning action I think we should check out another barrow and then maybe we should explore a new room come movement time.


Sounds good! I'll let you send them in. Ready to rock though!

Danny 04-15-2012 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 2640726)
Damage argument - I'm going to get better at hitting with each level. You are not. In terms of melee damage, I'm going to have access to weapons that deliver more damage than yours do, although you might get a wand at some point that allows you to keep up.

Tank argument - I'm going to have access to better armor than you are, which will make me harder to hit. My heal ability will allow greater recovery as I gain higher levels. I can understand your argument at Level 3, but it isn't going to be close in terms of absorbing damage, when we are talking about higher levels, unless you are planning on Stoneskin for your Level 3 spell. Even then, you'll be very susceptible to Dispel Magic, something that you don't need to worry about with a fighter.

Don't get me wrong - I'm delighted to have you tank for our party. Risk on you, and I just get to take free shots at our foes. If I had the option, I would steer foes to you instead of me in battles. I've asked Abe about this :) I just think that your logic is strange.


I think sleep will be highly effective throughout the game anytime we encounter more than one monster. Which there is probably a lot of room. But yes, I could really use a strong level 3 spell. Hopefully if we find one, you dont make me pay through the teech for it :p

Danny 04-15-2012 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2640899)
I think sleep will be highly effective throughout the game anytime we encounter more than one monster. Which there is probably a lot of room. But yes, I could really use a strong level 3 spell. Hopefully if we find one, you dont make me pay through the teech for it :p


But ive been really unlucky with spells so far. I havent had a single one drop specifically for me

Danny 04-15-2012 06:37 PM

Jackal, our teams are cleaning up so far in the playoffs!

CrimsonFox 04-15-2012 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2640900)
But ive been really unlucky with spells so far. I havent had a single one drop specifically for me


Tomorrow I can trade you mine if youve got something tradeworthy.

hoopsguy 04-15-2012 06:47 PM

Danny, please do not forget to pass the food/torches on Black Market.

PurdueBrad 04-15-2012 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 2640906)
Danny, please do not forget to pass the food/torches on Black Market.


Yeah Danny, it would be sad if evil were to starve in the dungeon. Think I'll just have something to eat :popcorn: here by the light. :cool:

CrimsonFox 04-15-2012 06:51 PM

I'm not even hungry.

PurdueBrad 04-15-2012 06:54 PM

Hey Danny, if I promised you the next spell scroll that JAG and I find, would you refrain from feeding Hoops?

JAG 04-15-2012 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad (Post 2640876)
Sounds good! I'll let you send them in. Ready to rock though!


Sent.

CrimsonFox 04-15-2012 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad (Post 2640910)
Hey Danny, if I promised you the next spell scroll that JAG and I find, would you refrain from feeding Hoops?



this made me laugh. Had I been drinking milk, it would have come out my nossse.

hoopsguy 04-15-2012 07:06 PM

PB, I would not have negotiated with you. But I trust Danny will live up to his commitments.

Of course, the idea of parlay with a guy who talks as if he had marbles in his mouth is funny in its own right.

Danny 04-15-2012 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 2640905)
Tomorrow I can trade you mine if youve got something tradeworthy.


I dont have a hell of a lot. A little gold mostly. I also happen to have a horse figurine, which IMO Is extremely valuable and tough to get. For the figurine I would need a nice level 3 spell though.

CrimsonFox 04-15-2012 07:14 PM

I've not considered the horse to be useful. Explain how it's useful as I'm not getting it. But I really don't think I weant a horse.

Danny 04-15-2012 07:15 PM

So I will put this out there now, I will trade the horse figurine for a nice level 3 spell. The figurines are the primary reason Kwhit were the easy top two winners of the first dungeon btw.

Danny 04-15-2012 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 2640922)
I've not considered the horse to be useful. Explain how it's useful as I'm not getting it. But I really don't think I weant a horse.


It gives an extra movement for a day. It is EXTREMELY valuable late in the game when vying for the finish.

Danny 04-15-2012 07:16 PM

When someone is spelled / geared up late, they can rake through the monsters, so the only thing slowing them down from going from 7/8 to level 10 is the one movement per day limit.

Danny 04-15-2012 07:17 PM

In general, I would have prefered to stock up on a couple figurines myself, but my lacks of spells has changed that somewhat. Still, we have a long way to go, so I am happy to keep it for later as well.

Danny 04-15-2012 07:20 PM

Ill admit in the first dungeon, I primarily bought healing potions and horse figurines. I was not the most well equipped or anything in the first dungeon, but I had moved quickly. I cant really do that this time because of the ghouls on the lose and my lack of spells. Frankly though, JAG could probably rake right now if he were to go it alone and make sure to have some figurines and potions.

Danny 04-15-2012 07:22 PM

My original plan for this dungeon was to get armor for early leveling along with my race bonus and then go with some spells like icy blast and acid arrow early to be able to clean out monsters. That changed when I couldnt get any spells. I still think mirror image and sleep are very useful, but more so for partying (especially sleep and in case we have to face other players).

CrimsonFox 04-15-2012 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2640924)
It gives an extra movement for a day. It is EXTREMELY valuable late in the game when vying for the finish.


sounds like it could get you killed too.

Danny 04-15-2012 07:23 PM

So in all honestly, I don't really think I can win the race now. My best chance is to party up and see who might be killed off, because this dungeon does seem much more potent than the last. We may end up in a situation where those who survive can win without racing like crazy.

Danny 04-15-2012 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 2640929)
sounds like it could get you killed too.


Not if you are properly stocked up on potions. Potions dont run out, you can buy whatever amount at the djinni sale.

Danny 04-15-2012 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2640931)
Not if you are properly stocked up on potions. Potions dont run out, you can buy whatever amount at the djinni sale.


And the reason Kwhit finished 1st and me 2nd in the last dungeon is because he beat me to the last horse figurine. You will see though, their value is incredible late in the game (and we are not the far from late in the game).

Danny 04-15-2012 07:26 PM

Black Market
Trade Hoops 2 food and 2 torches

Danny 04-15-2012 07:26 PM

PB, I must honor my commitments that I have made. It is the way of the Taurian.

Danny 04-15-2012 07:31 PM

Hoops, you really are underestimating mirror image. Of course if someone has dispel magic it sucks, but as we level it guarantees us a number of rounds without even having to worry about being hit (at least = to my level and more because they don't always hit them). Its especially valuable for monsters that are heavy hitters because extra damage cant carry over, a hit is a hit and an image gets killed. Vs a quicker attacking lesser monster, they arent as valuable.

Danny 04-15-2012 07:32 PM

So yes right now we are only facing monsters that deal 5-10 damage per hit, but if we face things that deal 20-30 per hit, then having those images is huge.

CrimsonFox 04-15-2012 07:32 PM

I got something good the firsssst dji, but sincccce haven't bought anything but torchessss til thisss last one cause of lack of fundsss.
But when I tried buying stuf I got shut out mossstly. I didn't know you could buy more than one of the sssame thing.

hoopsguy 04-15-2012 07:34 PM

Danny, I re-read Mirror Image this morning and since it is guaranteed to hit the images first I agree it is a big asset. If it was random for them hitting you compared to the mirror (as I thought it was) then it was way more variable in terms of worth from battle to battle.

CrimsonFox 04-15-2012 07:39 PM

how many imagessss do you get?

Danny 04-15-2012 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 2640940)
how many imagessss do you get?


Equal to my level.

CrimsonFox 04-15-2012 07:40 PM

Wow....may asss well call it "Protection from Damage" sssspell

Danny 04-15-2012 07:41 PM

Its very nice, but again its weakness is against dispel magic as all the images go poof.

CrimsonFox 04-15-2012 07:43 PM

not many monssssterssss know that sssspell....or any ssspells.

Danny 04-15-2012 07:44 PM

I haven't seen one that does yet. If I was soloing, the two spells i wanted most were mirror image and icy blast.

CrimsonFox 04-15-2012 07:46 PM

You have a tough choiccce for 3rd level. Actually cleric 3rd level hasss lotsss of good ssstuff too

Danny 04-15-2012 07:47 PM

Well I know what spells I want for 3rd level, its a just a question of whether or not in drops or is available for sale.

Danny 04-15-2012 07:48 PM

So if someone gets it, my top priorities are lightning bolt, pierce armor and stoneskin, in that order

CrimsonFox 04-15-2012 07:50 PM

oh you don't jussst inssstantly get spellssss when you level? YOu have to find them?

CrimsonFox 04-15-2012 07:54 PM

I guessss so. Just read it. Hadn't before asss I never consssidered playing a mage.

Danny 04-15-2012 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 2640951)
oh you don't jussst inssstantly get spellssss when you level? YOu have to find them?


Right, of course it seems Jag ends up getting two spells per level :p

Danny 04-15-2012 07:59 PM

So Hoops, one more day in this level (if we encounter monster) and Jackal and I should hit level 5. Then we can move on to the next level I am thinking.

PurdueBrad 04-15-2012 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2640955)
Right, of course it seems Jag ends up getting two spells per level :p


That's just because we keep finding scrolls. Look at it this way, you found Hoops and Jackal. JAG got stuck with me and a bunch of scrolls. I think you came out ahead, particularly since I couldn't spell complete words for 6 or 7 days.

hoopsguy 04-15-2012 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2640956)
So Hoops, one more day in this level (if we encounter monster) and Jackal and I should hit level 5. Then we can move on to the next level I am thinking.


Yep, I think that would make sense.

hoopsguy 04-15-2012 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2640899)
I think sleep will be highly effective throughout the game anytime we encounter more than one monster. Which there is probably a lot of room. But yes, I could really use a strong level 3 spell. Hopefully if we find one, you dont make me pay through the teech for it :p


I've got a Level 4 spell that you would be able to use. But I've got no incentive to give it to you at this point since you can't use it anyway for awhile. And you probably don't have a ton of incentive to deal for something now that you can't use for another week.

If we are still working together when you hit Level 7 then we can revisit this topic. Unless I really need to sell it for something amazing, in which case I'll look to give you the right to bid on it before I move it.

That fall in line with being a good teammate? Or at least something close?


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