i also am wondering why we have to have Lathum give Oliegirl a voting order...why cant we just pick someone and have them place the vote...if they dont do it, or vote for someone that is not the consensus, then we have an easy target for tomorrow

seems to me like Lathum is over complicating things as a way to make himself seem more important.

That actually makes a lot of sense saldana.

one more thought....

NTN had the ability to send/recieve a PM with one player per day....seeing as he was killed the first night, would it not be a reasonable assumption that his Day 1 choice was a Demon, and since they knew his ability, killed him for it.

working from that position, who do we think would be likely to be NTN's choice for a day one message?

I don't see how my questioning you makes me look far more suspicious. I would think it would be something that any villager would want to get to the bottom of. The only thing worse than a CoT is one built with someone who can't be trusted in the middle of it.


I actually have my mind thinking a different pair being Gabriel and Lucifer. Its been part of my hunch all along. I agree with someone else (I think olliegirl said it?) That I don't see any reason why Gabriel and Lucifer would want to protect each other, and would assume they would be working to remove each other from the start.


You keep digging for something, and I think you're a wolf trying to find targets. I'm going to explain my hunch, not because I feel I want to prove anything to you or because I want to provide you more information, but instead to share my line of thinking with others since it appears that other people have started down that road now..

Day 1, I didn't get much chance to look completely through all of the roles and rules and such, but several things stood out very obvious to me. I took a small step of faith that if I had the ability to spot those in shortened time that pretty much everyone else likely is aware of them as well. The first big red light that popped out to me was Chief Rum's quick vote on a player who hasn't played in a while. That seemed odd to me, it seemed like a statement vote of sorts.. Looking through at who exactly would have information at that point and what type of information they would have... it drew me to looking at the roles of Gabriel and Lucifer and that is where my hunch began.

I didn't really do a coin flip per say on which to vote for, but I finally figured it was more likely that Gabriel would get out a "statement vote" against lucifer in case something happened to him later on than the other way around. Thus my fairly quick vote for Anxiety there assuming that Chief was Gabriel. I then grew suspicious of Cronin and Path for coming to Anxiety's defense. I assume/assumed they were the demons.

Saldana has a point that I'm not sure how to resolve in my mind here:


Either Path took a very big leap of faith that he wouldn't get scanned or maybe my teams are reversed in my mind... Like I said on day 1 I think it is.. I think either Anxiety or Chief rum needs to die to resolve this. This is also the big reason I pushed Path alot for a better explanation.. he already put a big target on his and Anxiety's heads might as well help provide us the complete picture instead of leaving us guessing. If Path is indeed an angel and Anxiety is indeed Gabriel, then we should know it so we can target Chief and get rid of him immediately today.


One other comment Saldana had, that somehow my quoting didn't get here that I wanted to look at.. about who Ntn might have chosen to send a message to day 1 and the possibility it caused his death. I did a quick adv.search of this thread to pull up the 6 posts ntn had:









most of them don't really tell us much (other than him having good taste in being a Falcons fan).. The only two people he showed trust to was Anxiety and Cronin, and the only person he showed distrust to is Chief.. My assumption is he would use his ability to try to extend a CoT , not find someone he distrusted.. so initial guess would have been Cronin and/or Anxiety once again...

So as you can see, there seems to still be a block of people who all trust each other in Cronin, path, Anxiety vs Chief here... but I still am not fully convinced.. I still think we need to look into that to see which side is on our side.

That could be, but at least now we have a person who must vote. I think that takes away a variable -- now if anyone else votes, they're screwed.

WORK ON CARPENTRY]

Just getting those in, and sending the signal that I'm all in for this plan -- not going to say I'm in, then decide to put in a vote later (since these actions can't be undone). I encourage all of you to show your good faith and do the same -- the longer you wait to start building, the less trustworthy you become. I also encourage olie to vote for Neon Chaos (I think I'm the only one who's put in a "vote" for that).

That would be an pretty unwise play as either an angel (with a cultist around) or as a demon to put such a huge target on myself. I'd like to think I'm a better player than that. ;)


I just want to be clear -- I have no read on Cronin at all (though he seems to be playing for the village to me) and do not claim to know anything about him. I only am vouching for Anxiety.

Viewing the amount of damage undone to the cathedral last night, the demons can sabotage us long enough for us to run into problems. As others have said, if you think Barkeep is going to let us just build a cathedral and win on day 3 or 4 or 5 or something without killing a demon, then well its either a very poorly written game or you are deluding yourselves.

I don't mind Lathum's plan that much, but I question the judgement of those who are pushing the direction of it. For days I have tried to push people to get to the bottom of the Chief Rum - Anxiety thing (as well as giving us more information about both Path and Cronin. I would still be pushing for Cronin because of his defense of Render, but for the time being will assume that A) Demons don't know the cultist identity and B) Anxiety is indeed good as I've started figuring this morning. Because of that, we really need to see what Chief Rum's allegiance is to help lock that CoT in. I still don't feel as confident as others do about it.

I've waited as long as I could for the "plan" to come forth, but lack of discussion and movement and goof faith actions leave me believing that it will not happen. We've already been told that Neon won't be following the plan, and I am guessing there will be others. The plan doesn't work when everyone isn't on board. So if people won't join me in going after Path, Cronin or Anxiety, perhaps they will follow me in the opposite direction instead. One way or another we need to figure out which members of this block are on which side.

Vote Chief Rum
Vote Chief Rum

And with that, I'm out till after lynch.

The reason why I suggested I order Oliegirl is that way there could be no shenanigans, she HAS to vote someone, it's a sure thing. Anyone else who votes is then outing themselves as not acting in our best interests.

I think I am actualy under complicating things by taking the guesswork out of who should cast the single vote.

As for "trying to make myself important" I am just trying to make the best use of my ability

and it doesn't matter now thatnks to alanT

Get to the bottom of the Chief Rum - Anxiety thing? The bottom of it is that it's a Day 1 vote made by CR, since he wasn't going to be around the rest of the day! I think you're seriously distracting us from the task at hand.

However, I think we can still salvage the plan and build the Cathedral without you. I call upon Lathum to join oliegirl in voting for the same person, be it Neon Chaos or Alan T.

clearly AlanT has his own agenda.

I thought there were enough people discussing things to give it more time ( we do have 8 hours untill the deadline)

I just want to say that I have never said I trust either Anxiety or path. On day 1 I was arguing against lynching Anxiety - not because I trusted him, but because I thought he was a poor choice for a day 1 lynch.

You know, I've been thinking about the plan. The one drawback I see (other than Alan voting on his own) is that it does negate us getting voting information on individuals, and potential good information on late switches to save a demon, etc. If I was bad, and knew that the target was good, it would be easy to pile on and not even really mention a target and just let others take care of it.

Thoughts?

Go ahead and suspect me all you want. If I was a demon and I noticed a day one screw up like that I wouldn't point it out.

I would sell out an ally on day 3 or 4 but not day 1, there is no real point to it.

Maybe I'm dense, but I don't see how it is that Chief must be on a different side than the others you mentioned. I think that's quite a leap to take from an early day 1 vote.

Dola, not that I have anything against a Chief vote, per se. But I wasn't bothered by his vote as much as I was with your immediate follow-up vote.

I think Alan's thinking is that since the vote came SO early, it had to mean something. Though, since Alan has already gone off on someone for not being aware of his schedule, I'm sure he is aware that CR said he was just putting the vote in since he wouldn't be around for the rest of the day.

It really doesn't matter at this point, alanT blew it up.

My whole point was to only use a single vote so we can dedicate the rest of our actions on the cathedral.

Now thanks to AlanT we will be costing ourselves 5 actions, Alant's 2 votes plus 3 more to counter them.

So forget my idea, we can just continue to stay disorganized and run around like chickens with our heads cut off.

That's what I was thinking day 1, but the way Alan explained it, it makes sense to me now.

and For the record, I haven't ordered Oliegirl to do anything today and I probably won't since it really is mute at this point.

We can still make it work, but maybe we need the services of the Bishop. Your Lordship, would you deem it prudent to vote in accordance with our Page, to present a united front against the (whatever AlanT is)?

Why not just let those votes stand? I guess Chief Rum will cast two votes for somebody. So then we let the mysterious "tiebreak" happen, or else we have one person cast a tiebreak. Worst case we still only need one vote.

I'm ok with CR being lynched, I've no read on him whatsoever.

If that's the case, why did you vote for Chief twice, instead of Alan?

The tiebreak is not mysterious -- it's outline in the rules.

we can do that but we are losng 4 units of work on the cathedral because of Alant's actions.

What, then, is this relationship between the Peon and the Butcher? Are we to take them for their word? I sincerely think that they might have skinned the proverbial cat, letting their tongue slip, and mastefully manipulated everyone into letting everyone assume that they are not of the darkness?

Right now I see no reason to not vote for Neon Chaos.

People with their own victory conditions freak me out.

I believe I voted for Chief once, and worked on the cathedral once (on day 1). Day 2 I worked on the cathedral and ultimately voted for Mr. W.

Really, it was a coin flip between CR and Alan T. I forget exactly why I picked CR, but there wasn't a very good reason behind it, whatever it was.

I also just want to point out ewhen the "cultist" role is killed by wolves it is usualy at night. Very rarely do you see someone who turns out to be a wolf lead that charge

I don't know their relationship. I think least likely is Gabriel/Lucifer. Either masons or twins/lovers is my best guess, but I'm not at all confident its correct.

Yeah, looking back, it looks like you did. But I replied by saying "TWO votes on him?" Maybe I was seeing double then, because I said that thinking you voted for him twice, and still thought that until now. But there's just one vote there. Weird. I think this orange is freaking me out.

Like I said earlier, it's not a bad plan, it's just that someone always messes it up. With three different factions plus maybe a fourth (Bishop), you can't expect everyone to put the same weight into the same plan.

I certainly sympathize with this, but he hasn't done us any damage yet, quite the opposite. Neon/saldana was a key voting block on Render.

You first call upon the people to hold an inquisition against me for deciding to actually hold an inquisition, and now ask for my favor since the Lord Liege has gone on an inquisition of his own? Are you toying with me?

I am ambivalent to voting for or against the Lord Liege. I can be swayed to that direction, yes. I am also ambivalent to voting for or against the Novice, who has proven to be quite unuseful during the past couple of days.

Given, the Knight trusts me not... and this pains me to no end.

On the basis of trust earned, and trust given, I am willing to go with whomever the Page decides to vote. I will give you that much, if only to earn your trust, and your belief that I have been tasked by the Lord to lead man to true victory.

The flock has quite painted itself into a corner, and now needs saving.

We don't know what has happened behind the scenes. Well, at least I don't. Do you?

I sure don't, in fact it was pretty mysterious. But I'm willing to cut Neon some slack for now.

Thanks be to ye, Your Lordship. I think we can proceed with our plan now.

And if the Bishop ruins it, we know who to dispose of the next day.

I think we need more than three votes to two. What about self defense votes? What is others disagree enough with the choices to want to cast their own votes as well?

Well then, who are we thinking about? Might as well start talking about it.

I'm actually ok with a Chief Rum lynch. Since Alan isn't coming back (apparently), we would just need one vote to keep him from defending himself.

The tiebreak's outlined in the rules.

Alan's already placed his votes. If we want to go for someone suspicious, who is hampered in his ability to defend himself, he's our guy.

There's at least three different sets of victory conditions. Do you think, at this point, the good Bishop's interests do not align with our own? Does he not desire to finish the cathedral, or does he lack interest in eliminating the evil in our midst?

Post #628 wants its reason to exist back.

mostly it;s the way he is talking.

keep it up and your next

Just trying to look at it logically, I'd think our Bishop would very much like his cathedral finished. Whether or not he cares about the demons is the question, I believe.

Of course, if he would not be officiating at the cathedral then never mind.

I also don't like separate victory conditions. I would have no problem with either a vote on the Liege or the Bishop today.

The reason I see is that he's willing to play along with our plan. Voting for him will mean we'll need 5 votes to get him (assuming he votes for CR), while it would only take 3 votes to get Alan. Assuming CR comes in here and votes in self-defense, we should be fine.

Vote Saldana

It is a little to convienent he is coming after me in a semi subtle way by saying my actions are something a demon would do and by saying i am trying to make myself important.

I think he may be trying to use my reputation in past games against me.

It's okay -- Your Lordship, Page, we can still get this thing without wasting too much. We need 3 votes to combat Alan's CR votes. If you guys can be around at deadline to make sure CR gets his votes in, than we can all spend the rest of our time getting stuff built.

I probably won't be around at the deadline

Vote and work update:

Caprentry – Purdue (561), Purdue (581), path (585), Pass (606), Pass (607)
Roof – Lathum (562)
Artwork – Anxiety (589),


Rum – Alan (610), Alan (610)
Saldana – Lathum (652)

Actions Remaining:
Neon Chaos 2
oliegirl 2
saldana2
Chief Rum 2
path12 1
Mr. Wednesday 2
st.cronin 2
Schmidty 2
Anxiety 2

I made my vote fully aware that Saldana has 2 actions left still.

I am curious to see how this plays out but alas, will be gone for the evening.

I only have one action remaining BK

Quiet again

Well, we did send the Musician straight to the bowels of hell from where he doth came.

just so i have this straight...

you come up with "the plan", where you are going to unnecessarily order Oliegirl to cast a vote for someone.

I call the plan into question, as well as your assertion that you should be in the COT because you helped lynch the cultist, despite the fact the Demons very likely had no idea who the cultist was.

you then try to lead a charge against Neon because he has his own victory conditions....this charge gets little to no support.

then, despite the fact that you have spent the entire day telling everyone they should do nothing but work on the cathedral, use one of your action points to vote for me.

anyone else see this as erratic at best, bizarre at the worst?


either way, i can prove i am a villager, and will if necessary.

dola, and its MOOT point...unless your point was able to speak by itself, and then lost it.:D

That is a decidedly odd choice on Lathum's part. I look forward to the explanation.

I'll put in one unit of work now and defer my other action until I'm certain whether it's better to devote it to more work or to a vote.

WORK ON ARTWORK

I don't understand Lathum's vote at all. If there is a duke, this might be a good day for the duke to assert himself, since it seems like we're sort of all over the map.

As I mentioned before I am now out until likely after lynch. I will be at a scheduling meeting for my basketball teams until who knows when. It would be great if there could be an accurate vote and work update so I could process quicker.

Vote and work update:

Caprentry – Purdue (561), Purdue (581), path (585), Pass (606), Pass (607)
Roof – Lathum (562)
Artwork – Anxiety (589), Mr. W (663)


Rum – Alan (610), Alan (610)
Saldana – Lathum (652)

Actions Remaining:
Neon Chaos 2
oliegirl 2
saldana2
Chief Rum 2
path12 1
Mr. Wednesday 1
st.cronin 2
Schmidty 2
Anxiety 1

I'm out until after lynch, too.

Just keeping your seat warm your grace.....:D

As I've said before, although I think Lathum's plan was good in theory, you aren't going to get four different factions all algined in addition to people who have different reasons for their actions. Then he voted fo saldana when the easiest vote, accoridng to his plan, would have been AlanT, who could not vote in self defense because he has already voted, so three votes there and we are done. Now we have votes all over the place.

Lathum's idea was poor, administravitely, and he carried it out poorly. That's doesn;t make him a wolf, per se, but I have to question why a good player would make what I believe is a bad call, especially the saldana vote.

I don;t have a read on saldana much, he's been a little utr at times, so I'd be okay if we all voted him off, but the best candidate is AlanT since he doubles voted.

Now everybody is going to vote because they have to. There are too many votes out there, and if someone swings their vots to you after you've put two actions on the cathedral, then you are screwed with no way to defend yourself, so the incentive to push for the cathedral is gone.

Ergo, tehre is no reason for me not to cast a vote right now. Lathum strike ms as odd, but he did bring us the cultist yesterday. That gives him solme credibility to me, but he's credibility is not what it was.

AlanT has struck me as a bad villager from the start. At some point in time we have to look his way/

CR has two votes on him, and he's been a bit utr too, even for him. But he sometimes comes in on Day four or five with these amazingly insightful posts that are completely right and bang on. Handing out for a day or two at teh bginning is not unusual for him

Who else has had votes, let me see. Mr. Wednesday had one yesterday. I've never been able to get a good read on him in tehpast when I played with him, he was still in the new stage of a player. Who knows what he is like now, but I am still unable to figure him out one wayu or the other,

I'm comfortabel with cronin and pass. I wouldn;t say that I trust them per se, but I'm looking elsewhere,

oliegirl hasn;t sturk me as unusal, bu tshe hasn't really dfistinguhsied herself iether.

Saem with Schmidity, but i feel he is playing his normal game, and I;m not sure if I respect that he didn;t vote back yesterday or fear it.

PurdueBrad - no clue. Most UTR player around I beleive. If he;s a demon we're in trouble.

I suspect, like most of you, that N_C has ulterior motives, but right now, I have more serious concerns. However, I remember a game long ago when I had other concerns and arguably lost us the game and won it for Lathum who was neutral when I killed the last necromancer as the elder guard. My eye is on him, but with trepedation.

Those are my thougghts ont h peops. Obviously, path is clean.

So, where to vote? Poeple who have done things in the thraed that I question are Schmidity, whose action io am unsure of, Lathum, and AlanT. UTR players like CR, PurdueBrad and saldana at times are suspect. Also, vocally active players who don;t do much, lik eoliegirl, tweak my wolfdar a little biut. I can;t ge a read on MrW, so there is that too. N_C scres me based ont eh rules, but not how hes played it here.

In other words, I am not sure of most of you!

Who to vote for? For now, I'm sticking with one of the three that has taken an action I qustion: AlanT, Schmidity, and Lathum. Of those three, I can dismess Schmidity because his action might also be really good, in addition to being bad.

So I'ml leaning towards LOathum and AlanT. Both have admitted they like me in the thread today, but I can;t lee that stop me.

Lathum gets a pass, for now, because he brought us the Cultist yesterday.

Therefore

VOTE ALANT

Please note that I'd be comfortable voting for most of you, so if actiosn change, yadda yadda, happy to change my vote, yadda yadda.



WHo to vote for? Well,

Hmm forgot to edit my post before I posted and delete that line that was in there twice. Ah well - no editing now.

quiet evening.

I take it that seeing as how the Knight veered from his own plan, I am no longer required to go with the Page's vote to prove my innocence?

i would think not, your grace...in truth, i am sorely tempted to return the knights' trespasses against me onto hisself

Let's try that again:

WORK ON ARTWORK

Barkeep's list, updated:

Caprentry (5) – Purdue (561), Purdue (581), path (585), Pass (606), Pass (607)
Roof (1) – Lathum (562)
Artwork (4)– Anxiety (589), Mr. W (663), st.cronin (674), Schmidty (675)


Rum – Alan (610), Alan (610), st.cronin (674)
Saldana – Lathum (652)
Alan T - Anxiety (668)


Actions Remaining:
Neon Chaos 2
oliegirl 2
saldana2
Chief Rum 2
path12 1
Mr. Wednesday 1
Schmidty 1

Left to do:

Walls - Finished
Roof - 1 unit of work (1 done)
Windows - Finished
Artwork - 9 units of work (4 done)
Carpentry - 6 units of work (5 done)

Killing me will waste a day for a village, and personally, be quite disappointing for me, as I am past the two job days and can finally fully participate. That said, if you really feel I must die to prove your theory wrong, then I guess lynch away. I won't go quietly, but I also know I have no powers or abilities whatsoever. I have nothing to contribute to the village except whatever I bring to the table myself. So killing me costs the village nothing but a day (which has value, but if Alan is going to lead the kill parade, you might as well find out he's wrong now).

VOTE ALANT

VOTE ALANT

That's two votes. This is just self-preservation. I actually don't think Alan or saldana are demons, but they are the only ones I can vote for to give myself a chance.

Alan has done this before. I know path sees it. He mentioned himself Alan's propensity for the conspiracy theory. Sometimes a vote is just a vote. Alan himself pointed out on Day Two how well known my schedule is on Monday. And I reiterated that myself when making my vote late Sunday night--I would not be around Monday, so I had to vote. I made the mistake of not noting the possibility of avoiding voting for a player at all, a mistake I already owned up to. But my vote on Abe was nothing more than it seems to be--a welcome back pat on the back for a long time player that is just a pointless random Day One vote (as is common on Day One).

It certainly isn't some indication I know something or that I was taking a firm stance on Anxiety. The entire basis for Alan's theory/hunch is convoluted and an extreme reach. I am not Gabriel or Lucifer. Whoever they are, they are both certainly laughing at you all right now. Or for sure, Lucifer is. Gabriel is probably deciding whether he should try to save me or not.

FWIW, I would have followed your plan if I wasn't forced to defend myself.

Thanks! Glad someone else noticed that. Nothing made me laugh more reading this thread than cronin's "I have no read on Chief" comment. He's been gunning me almost from the word go.

If I weren't trying to save myself or locked into a plan like Lathum's proposal, I would have placed both of my votes on cronin. In fact, that's exactly what I would have done this morning before I left for work, except I held off, not wanting to commit to voting as opposed to building the cathedral.

neon and olie, i see you are in the thread...i am not trying to pressure you to do anything, but i dont want to use my actions until i know if i need to save myself

As pointed out before, I did not vote for you twice on day 1. And I still have no read on you. I simply think that, of the players with votes, you are least likely to be a villager.

You may be wrong about the vote number, but you're not wrong that he has been going after me from the start. And it was a little more obvious in the reading than a "coin flip between Alan and Chief", like he makes it out to be.

When I come up a villager, look hard at cronin.

My comment was about you coming after me, not about the votes. That's on Pass.

And if "no read" means coming after me the way you have, you must think everyone else in the game is good.

I do not like how things are brewing... not one bit. I feel that we are being manipulated into a situation to vote for two innocents?

I find it quite puzzling that the good Ser Knight devised a plan, that quite a few followed, and then retracted, voting for the Friar, who was a crucial part in vanquishing the evil Musician. Perhaps he hath been able to do his part... taking away crucial votes that might have been important?

Vote Lathum

Vote Lathum

Did you not notice who I voted for on day 2? I don't even think I mentioned you on day 2.

I am interested ONLY in lynching demons, if you can point us to a demon, please do so.

How often do you need to write this? Okay, everyone gets it. You want me dead. It was already pretty obvious. BTW, the sky is blue.

Neon, as I said before, I have some reason to think Lathum is not a demon. Its not 100%, but I think he's a poor choice if you REALLY want to lynch a demon.

Its understandable that you would focus on the obviousness of that post, instead of looking at it in context and thinking that maybe there was another meaning being transmitted.

I noticed who you voted for on Day One. I notice who you're voting for now. I notice you feel compelled to mention you're "okay with a Chief Rum lynch" in two separate posts.

And you know I can't point out a demon. I have no powers whatsoever. Except perhaps I'll pray to God to exact vengeance on your ill-advised and perhaps deceitful strategy after I am gone. Alas, I am but a novice, so not too good yet at turning the other cheek.

I saw the context. It makes no difference--point is, it's too much. For a guy with "no read", you are coming after me phenomenally hard, and you're going to look awful when I come up a villager. I really hope the village lynches you tomorrow after I turn up good.

Obviously you didn't.

I am not planning, at this time at least, to vote for you tonight Saldana. you were never on my list of suspects today.

Has anyone given thought to the idea that NC is Gabriel or Lucifer? And that he is purposely making his posts convoluted and difficult to read???

You're right. You were right there looking over my shoulder when I posted. I forgot.

Alright,if I'm looking at everything correctly, we have a 3 way tie between NC, Lathum and AlanT.

Saldana - you and I seem to be on the same page...I don't feel right voting for Lathum as he is my Knight and I do believe that he is good. I'm torn on NC and AlanT however...if you and I can come to an agreement between the 2 of them and cast our 4 collective votes for one person, we should be able to successfully lynch who we want...what do you think?

Are you trying to mislead the people, Page?

Unless I have read correctly, I do not have votes upon me.

Huh? Unless I missed a few votesm it's me and Alan tied at 3, with saldana 1 vote.

I think I was clear why I thought it was a good idea for me to order oliegirl to vote but just in case it was missed I will explain again.

IMO it would prevent any shenanagins with the vote. I would order her to vote so she would HAVE TO DO IT. If anyone else voted it would be suspicous.

If you think it is a poor idea that's fine, but to say it isn't a good explination is wrong


Again, I agree the demon's probably do not know the cultist, but as a demon on day 1 I would never sacrifice an alley who knows who I am in an attempt to gain a very thin level of trust, it would be plain stupid and I would hope you think I am a better player then that


"lead a charge??????"

that is a little much I think, all I said was people with their own victory condition freak me out and I see no reason not to vote him. I hardly consider that rounding up a posse


My vote for you came after SEVERAL posts about how AlanT blew up my plan and it was pointless to try and make it work.

I find it a little to convienient how you are leaving out certain facts and instead again trying to spin things to make me look bad.

Oh, AND HOW CONVIENIENT NEON CHAOS VOTED FOR ME.

Does anyone else find it odd how buddy/ buddy Saldana and Neon Chaos have been?

I don't find it odd cosndiering their roles

No odder than you and page being all budd buddy