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CrimsonFox 10-04-2011 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2541220)
BTW, my package including Star Trek: Fleet Captains just came and I am super psyched to play. The game looks awesome. But I have no one to play with until tomorrow as my wife has plans tonight :(.



we don't want to hear about your package

Danny 10-04-2011 05:29 PM

Vote Mr. Bug

He made an early vote on Crimson using a reason from a previous game and never changed it (like most usually do who give such reasons). He is also very under the radar at this point.

Autumn 10-04-2011 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 2541231)
we don't want to hear about your package


My thoughts exactly, or who he plays with when his wife is busy.

Autumn 10-04-2011 05:30 PM

RA votes Dzilla 568
jackal votes saldana 594
grammaticus votes dzilla 599
lathum votes dubb 601
saldana votes mauboy 602
mauboy votes dubb 611
commo votes dzilla 612
danny votes autumn 634
Narcizo votes mckerney 645
zinto votes jackal 654
dubb votes lathum 660
EF votes saldana 662
autumn votes mckerney 665
sndvls votes dzilla 669
crimsonfox votes saldana 674
danny unvotes autumn 684
hoops votes mckerney 693
zinto unvotes jackal 698
danny votes mrbug 702


dzilla - RA, grammaticus, commo, sndvls
saldana - jackal, EF, CF
dubb - lathum, mauboy
mauboy - saldana
autumn -
mckerney - narcizo, autumn, hoops
jackal -
lathum - dubb
mrbug - danny

CrimsonFox 10-04-2011 05:31 PM

dzilla 4 - raiders (568) grammaticus (599) Commo (612) SnDvls (669)
saldana 3 - jackal (594) eaglefan (662) crimsonfox (674)
dubb 2 - Lathum (601) mauboy (611)
mauboy 1 - saldana (602)
mckerney 3 - narcizo (645) autumn (665) hoop (693)
lathum 1 - dubb (660)
Bug 1 - danny (702)

unvotes:
autumn - danny (684)
jackal - zinto (698)

Danny 10-04-2011 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2541233)
My thoughts exactly, or who he plays with when his wife is busy.


I usually play with Darth :eek:

CrimsonFox 10-04-2011 05:34 PM

you can play with your package, you can play with darth, but you cannot play with darth's package...

Autumn 10-04-2011 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 2541239)
you can play with your package, you can play with darth, but you cannot play with darth's package...


I hear Darth got a better package anyway. That's probably where Danny's wife is tonight.

Playing Star Trek Fleet I mean of course.

Autumn 10-04-2011 05:35 PM

This is what happens when the rest of you don't post btw.

saldana 10-04-2011 05:36 PM

zinto, i would be just as happy to vote jackal as mau, but no one aside from autumn seems to see the logic in my analysis of jackals movements yesterday.

instead, people just seem to want to find incrimination in the fact that i questioned the decency of day one voting for a guy that wasnt here to defend himself or reveal...i cant believe that this is what passes for logic in WW anymore.

i dont really like this vote, but seeing i am only down one at this point, i dont really have many other choices.
unvote mauboy
vote dzilla

Danny 10-04-2011 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2541240)
I hear Darth got a better package anyway. That's probably where Danny's wife is tonight.

Playing Star Trek Fleet I mean of course.


Well, mine did have one broken ship :(

The Jackal 10-04-2011 05:38 PM

I've been playing FIFA, I'm honestly vanilla and I know my vote moving yesterday doesn't look great in light of NTN turning up bad, but I was just trying to see what happened in a giant game on D1. If I end up needing to go down at some point because of it that's fine, I feel good about a vanilla sacrifice in this game, and drawing some heat means I won't be converted

Danny 10-04-2011 05:39 PM

The last red death had two starting wolves right? I this game is the same, it would not be wise to vote on the thinking that two other players appear to be linked.

Commo_Soldier 10-04-2011 05:39 PM

Considering moving to mckerney, will know more when I get back home. I had the second most suspicion, if not as much on him yesterday as I did on ntn, only went ntn because mckerney was not a strong candidate with others yesterday.

Raiders Army 10-04-2011 05:42 PM

I decided to skip the economic development dinner because of WW.

Just kidding. I'm tired from work today so I just came home to drink beer.

Catching up now.

The Jackal 10-04-2011 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2541246)
The last red death had two starting wolves right? I this game is the same, it would not be wise to vote on the thinking that two other players appear to be linked.


This is true. My vote is on saldana for his posts yesterday but I'm thinking a smart wolf team wouldn't link each other at all. You want to believe wolves will make mistakes like that (I know I have), but in this size of a game it would -almost- be better for a wolf team not to be able to talk to each other.

Vote count anyone?

The Jackal 10-04-2011 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army (Post 2541250)
drink beer.


This. Wish I had a full-time job to come home from to drink, but beer will do nonetheless.

The Jackal 10-04-2011 05:46 PM

Ah I see a vote count very recently

The Jackal 10-04-2011 05:46 PM

unvote saldana
vote mckerney

Raiders Army 10-04-2011 05:49 PM

My thoughts on dzilla: I didn't like his movement yesterday, but the early pile on today causes me to re-think this.

UNVOTE DZILLA
I need to dig a little deeper and look at some others.

Autumn 10-04-2011 05:49 PM

Werewolf, the game where you start worrying when people agree with you.

Danny 10-04-2011 05:50 PM

I don't think people should put too much weight into pile ons and vote movement in regards to who can be a wolf. In a normal game of this size yes, but with us already finding a wolf, there may only be one or two wolves in the game currently.

Danny 10-04-2011 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2541260)
Werewolf, the game where you start worrying when people agree with you.


I agree

vote autumn

CrimsonFox 10-04-2011 05:51 PM

That was a little confusing but I THINK this is where we are:

dzilla 4 - grammaticus (599) Commo (612) SnDvls (669) saldana (710)
saldana 2 - eaglefan (662) crimsonfox (674)
dubb 2 - Lathum (601) mauboy (611)
mckerney 3 - narcizo (645) autumn (665) jackal (719)
lathum 1 - dubb (660)


unvotes:
autumn - danny (684)
jackal - zinto (698)
mauboy - saldana (710)
saldana - jackal (719)
dzilla - raiders (720)

Danny 10-04-2011 05:52 PM

Crimson, you are missing my vote on Mr. Bug

dubb93 10-04-2011 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2541260)
Werewolf, the game where you start worrying when people agree with you.


QFT. I am just as guilty of this if not more so than anyone else.

Raiders Army 10-04-2011 05:52 PM

By the way, tonight (which I'm not showing up although I RSVPed) has free beer, wine, and dinner:

Filet with red wine sauce and Marinated chicken breast with white wine sauce. (Everyone gets both.)
Baked potato with butter and sour cream
Steamed fresh vegetables with light butter and garlic sauce
Dinner rolls and butter
Chocolate cake or cheesecake with strawberries

There was going to be an Oklahoma guy talking about Oklahoma Economic Development and a Federal Reserve guy talking about US Economic Development and the status of the economy. It essentially is a big grip and grin thing, which I'm not really in the mood. Daughter had a X-Country meet this afternoon, too.

Anyhow, I know, TMI.

Autumn 10-04-2011 05:53 PM

Let the experts handle this CF

dzilla - grammaticus, commo, sndvls, saldana
saldana - EF, CF
dubb - lathum, mauboy
mauboy -
autumn -
mckerney - narcizo, autumn, hoops, jackal
jackal -
lathum - dubb
mrbug - danny

Danny 10-04-2011 05:53 PM

Should have shown up, got a to go bag and left.

CrimsonFox 10-04-2011 05:53 PM

yeah i totally botched that one up as i forgot hoops as well

dzilla 4 - grammaticus (599) Commo (612) SnDvls (669) saldana (710)
saldana 2 - eaglefan (662) crimsonfox (674)
dubb 2 - Lathum (601) mauboy (611)
mckerney 4 - narcizo (645) autumn (665) hoop (693) jackal (719)
lathum 1 - dubb (660)
Bug 1 - danny (702)

unvotes:
autumn - danny (684)
jackal - zinto (698)
mauboy - saldana (710)
saldana - jackal (719)
dzilla - raiders (720)

Lathum 10-04-2011 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93 (Post 2541203)
Again you lose me here. Hoops was actually arguing for people to not vote me since I did NOT throw NtN under the bus. You seem to agree with this and do exactly the opposite of what the arguer intended.


I must have misread his comment. Still voting for you though, something doesn't sit right with me about your knee jerk reaction to immedeatly vote me back

Autumn 10-04-2011 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army (Post 2541269)
By the way, tonight (which I'm not showing up although I RSVPed) has free beer, wine, and dinner:

Filet with red wine sauce and Marinated chicken breast with white wine sauce. (Everyone gets both.)
Baked potato with butter and sour cream
Steamed fresh vegetables with light butter and garlic sauce
Dinner rolls and butter
Chocolate cake or cheesecake with strawberries

There was going to be an Oklahoma guy talking about Oklahoma Economic Development and a Federal Reserve guy talking about US Economic Development and the status of the economy. It essentially is a big grip and grin thing, which I'm not really in the mood. Daughter had a X-Country meet this afternoon, too.

Anyhow, I know, TMI.


Could you send me the filet? And the beer.

CrimsonFox 10-04-2011 05:55 PM

order papajohn's grab a beer and enjoy werewolf instead. A truly better plan.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army (Post 2541269)
By the way, tonight (which I'm not showing up although I RSVPed) has free beer, wine, and dinner:

Filet with red wine sauce and Marinated chicken breast with white wine sauce. (Everyone gets both.)
Baked potato with butter and sour cream
Steamed fresh vegetables with light butter and garlic sauce
Dinner rolls and butter
Chocolate cake or cheesecake with strawberries

There was going to be an Oklahoma guy talking about Oklahoma Economic Development and a Federal Reserve guy talking about US Economic Development and the status of the economy. It essentially is a big grip and grin thing, which I'm not really in the mood. Daughter had a X-Country meet this afternoon, too.

Anyhow, I know, TMI.


Danny 10-04-2011 05:56 PM

Hungry Howie's is better than Papa Johns

CrimsonFox 10-04-2011 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 2541273)
I must have misread his comment. Still voting for you though, something doesn't sit right with me about your knee jerk reaction to immedeatly vote me back



he actually did that all through the evil dead game. So I have bad feelings and good feelings about dubb right now.

Danny 10-04-2011 05:56 PM

Dubb always does that. I have not seen anything from him outside the realm of his regular play.

Autumn 10-04-2011 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2541278)
Hungry Howie's is better than Papa Johns


Where's Pumpy?

Raiders Army 10-04-2011 05:59 PM

I'm not sure where the mckerney stuff came from. I guess I'll leave my vote on dzilla.

VOTE DZILLA

I get some vibes about mauboy and I'd go in that direction, but it wouldn't matter at this point.

Autumn 10-04-2011 05:59 PM

There's something delicious about Lathum voting someone else for having a kneejerk reaction to a post in a WW game. :-):D

Raiders Army 10-04-2011 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2541274)
Could you send me the filet? And the beer.


It sounded okay, but I'm not sure it would be worth it. It was supposed to go from 5:30 to 9:00 Central. I'm tired.

CrimsonFox 10-04-2011 06:01 PM

heh heh heh ...delicious. are you SURE you aren't a wolf with all the drooling you're doing?

The Jackal 10-04-2011 06:03 PM

unvote mckerney
vote dzilla

mckerney 10-04-2011 06:08 PM

I'm not too convinced we'll learn much from the end of day moves yesterday. With the possibility of only 2 starting wolves due to conversions I don't think anyone would stick their neck out too much, and if there was a conversion last night it probably wouldn't be anyone who looked like they did.

Since that seems to be the way it's going though and I'm also on the block, dzilla's unvote looks more suspicious than anything else to me.

Vote dzilla

Autumn 10-04-2011 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 2541288)
heh heh heh ...delicious. are you SURE you aren't a wolf with all the drooling you're doing?


My dinner wasn't very good.

Autumn 10-04-2011 06:11 PM

Six votes still to come, I think.

CrimsonFox 10-04-2011 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2541281)
Dubb always does that. I have not seen anything from him outside the realm of his regular play.



yes but does he do that as a wolf as well as a villager?

CrimsonFox 10-04-2011 06:17 PM

dzilla 7 - grammaticus (599) Commo (612) SnDvls (669) saldana (710) raiders (738) jackal (742) mckerney (743)
saldana 2 - eaglefan (662) crimsonfox (674)
dubb 2 - Lathum (601) mauboy (611)
mckerney 3 - narcizo (645) autumn (665) hoop (693)
lathum 1 - dubb (660)
Bug 1 - danny (702)

unvotes:
autumn - danny (684)
jackal - zinto (698)
mauboy - saldana (710)
saldana - jackal (719)
dzilla - raiders (720)
mckerney - jackal (742)

CrimsonFox 10-04-2011 06:17 PM

I'd rather see a runOFF than this run :P

Abe Sargent 10-04-2011 06:17 PM

My fav pizza for delivery is hussans


http://hussonspizza.com/

CrimsonFox 10-04-2011 06:18 PM

Okay the saldana action isn't happening...how about this...

unvote saldana
vote bug

Danny 10-04-2011 06:18 PM

Unvote Mr. Bug
Vote Mckerney

Danny 10-04-2011 06:19 PM

haha, ill go back for now then

unvote Mckerney
vote mr. bug

dzilla77 10-04-2011 06:19 PM

And the pile on has started. While I am the easy choice, I am a roled villager - the Exorcist. Unfortunately, unless someone is known to be possessed, I can't prove it.

However, the cleansing flame with prove my innocence.

Danny 10-04-2011 06:20 PM

Damn, i had a feeling you were roled.

Autumn 10-04-2011 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent (Post 2541304)


You guys are killing me, now I want pizza.

Commo_Soldier 10-04-2011 06:20 PM

To get it a little less of a runaway since I don't mind voting for either.
dz
mckerney

Danny 10-04-2011 06:21 PM

The exorcist is a very important role, so barring any counter reveal, he should be unvoted and protected tonight.

MrBug708 10-04-2011 06:21 PM

Vote - McKerney

saldana 10-04-2011 06:21 PM

unless someone can counter that no reason not to believe it at this point so i will go back to where i wanted to start the day with.


unvote dzilla
vote the jackal

Danny 10-04-2011 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier (Post 2541311)
To get it a little less of a runaway since I don't mind voting for either.
dz
mckerney


You need the words vote and unvote in there.

Autumn 10-04-2011 06:22 PM

That's not going to count, commo

MrBug708 10-04-2011 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2541307)
haha, ill go back for now then

unvote Mckerney
vote mr. bug


Just waiting on the undead hand to smack you

dubb93 10-04-2011 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 2541273)
I must have misread his comment. Still voting for you though, something doesn't sit right with me about your knee jerk reaction to immedeatly vote me back


That's fine. We can play this out. I will stay the same as well. Between your vote with no reasoning yesterday, your cryptic roled comments yesterday(yet here you still are), and your refusal to admit you were wrong today I would say you are as good a candidate as any today as well.

The Jackal 10-04-2011 06:22 PM

unvote dzilla
vote bug

mckerney 10-04-2011 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2541310)
You guys are killing me, now I want pizza.


After reading the last couple pages I want to eat pizza while playing Star Trek: Fleet Captains.

Commo_Soldier 10-04-2011 06:22 PM

unvote dz
Vote mckerney

dubb93 10-04-2011 06:23 PM

People need to go back and search the thread for Lathum. If I had more time I would quote them all and post them. Something doesn't add up with this guy so far.

The Jackal 10-04-2011 06:23 PM

unvote bug
vote lathum

Danny 10-04-2011 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93 (Post 2541325)
People need to go back and search the thread for Lathum. If I had more time I would quote them all and post them. Something doesn't add up with this guy so far.


Some odd play I agree. I am considering a switch.

MrBug708 10-04-2011 06:23 PM

I dont think I've ever had so many unvotes before

mckerney 10-04-2011 06:24 PM

Well then.

Unvote dzilla
Vote MrBug708


For a new defensive vote I may as well go with my belief that someone who votes for me must be a wolf.

Danny 10-04-2011 06:24 PM

unvote Mr. Bug
Vote Lathum

Commo_Soldier 10-04-2011 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2541318)
That's not going to count, commo


Yeah, hate posting from phone. Wish I would have posted that a little sooner after seeing the reveal.

Autumn 10-04-2011 06:27 PM

You guys are making me regret keeping a vote history.

Autumn 10-04-2011 06:27 PM

dzilla - grammaticus, sndvls, RA
saldana - EF
dubb - lathum, mauboy
mauboy -
autumn -
mckerney - narcizo, autumn, hoops, mrbug, commo
jackal - saldana
lathum - dubb, jackal, danny
mrbug - CF, mckerney

Autumn 10-04-2011 06:29 PM

I wish Lathum were here. A Dubb/Lathum head to head would be awesome.

I don't really see what you guys are chasing there though, I'm surprised you're following Danny. Hasn't Lathum played like this in every game for the past year? Amused, nonsensical comments, trolling like he's a wolf, refusing to give explanations?

Danny 10-04-2011 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2541338)
I wish Lathum were here. A Dubb/Lathum head to head would be awesome.

I don't really see what you guys are chasing there though, I'm surprised you're following Danny. Hasn't Lathum played like this in every game for the past year? Amused, nonsensical comments, trolling like he's a wolf, refusing to give explanations?


Yes, and in at least one of those games he was a wolf and won because of it.

Danny 10-04-2011 06:31 PM

I like Mckerney as a candidate FWIW, but we need multiple candidates.

Grammaticus 10-04-2011 06:32 PM

Exorcist, Huh?

Unvote dzilla

Vote Atumn

Autumn 10-04-2011 06:35 PM

Another place I like to keep a hairy eyeball is in the first few people who move off a person after reveal. I know as a wolf you don't want to look like you were reluctant to move off a roled villager, so I think wolves tend to be among the first to jump ship. in this case, Saldana, Jackal and Commo were the first off, just for posterity's sake.

Danny 10-04-2011 06:37 PM

hairy eyeball? dont wolves have hairy eye balls?

mauchow 10-04-2011 06:37 PM

unvote dzilla.. oh, snap! Don't need to.

I'm sticking with Dubb for the moment.

mauchow 10-04-2011 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2541349)
hairy eyeball? dont wolves have hairy eye balls?


Good catch!

Autumn 10-04-2011 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2541349)
hairy eyeball? dont wolves have hairy balls?


Fixed that for ya.

saldana 10-04-2011 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2541346)
Another place I like to keep a hairy eyeball is in the first few people who move off a person after reveal. I know as a wolf you don't want to look like you were reluctant to move off a roled villager, so I think wolves tend to be among the first to jump ship. in this case, Saldana, Jackal and Commo were the first off, just for posterity's sake.


that is a horrible assumption...the only thing that it means is that I was in the thread when he made the reveal and was able to make the change

Autumn 10-04-2011 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana (Post 2541359)
that is a horrible assumption...the only thing that it means is that I was in the thread when he made the reveal and was able to make the change


It's not an assumption, it's just a possible place to look for wolves. Obviously timing, when people are in thread, whether their vote is on that person, all play into it.

Danny 10-04-2011 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana (Post 2541359)
that is a horrible assumption...the only thing that it means is that I was in the thread when he made the reveal and was able to make the change


I agree

Grammaticus 10-04-2011 06:45 PM

Just reading up on the Exorcist, is being possessed different from being corrupted?

SnDvls 10-04-2011 06:45 PM

Unvote dzilla
Vote saldana

dzilla77 10-04-2011 06:45 PM

I gotta go with mckerney just to protect myself

vote mckerney

dzilla77 10-04-2011 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grammaticus (Post 2541362)
Just reading up on the Exorcist, is being possessed different from being corrupted?


Yes, as far as I understand it.

CrimsonFox 10-04-2011 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2541309)
Damn, i had a feeling you were roled.


i had a HUGE feeling he was to. I especially didn't think he was a wolf the way he acted.

SnDvls 10-04-2011 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana (Post 2541359)
that is a horrible assumption...the only thing that it means is that I was in the thread when he made the reveal and was able to make the change


I too agree bad reasoning Autumn

Raiders Army 10-04-2011 06:48 PM

UNVOTE DZILLA
VOTE LATHUM

Grammaticus 10-04-2011 06:49 PM

dzilla, if you are roled, why would you draw so much attention to yourself by moving off on the tie so early?

CrimsonFox 10-04-2011 06:50 PM

i won't be satisfied until danny switches his vote 5 times on one page.

SnDvls 10-04-2011 06:50 PM

My spreadsheet is at work anyone with a vote count breakdown now?

dzilla77 10-04-2011 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grammaticus (Post 2541371)
dzilla, if you are roled, why would you draw so much attention to yourself by moving off on the tie so early?


Cause I didn't think ntn was a wolf and I don't like doing things at the very end.

Autumn 10-04-2011 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls (Post 2541368)
I too agree bad reasoning Autumn


I think you guys are misunderstanding me. I'm not saying those people are wolves, or that they have to be wolves. I'm saying, just like we look at say second voters early in a day, or last minute switches, looking at the first movers after a reveal can be illuminating. That's all. I like to keep track of who it is, as it can be one more piece in the pile of circumstantial evidence.

Danny 10-04-2011 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 2541372)
i won't be satisfied until danny switches his vote 5 times on one page.


I am strongly considering a switch back to Autumn


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