While I commend Magneto for performing admirably on the mission, I see no reason to prematurely name him as our most cleared. I'll let the 5th prelate spot go to whom our master decides upon.

While I'll stop short of saying this Mimic-Magneto tango looks contrived, it's another thing I'll have an eye on.

Regarding the mission, I'll go on either. I think I'm well-suited for either.

I'm not sure if making a Prelate team is the wisest manuever out there either Mimic. My hunch is that there is someone with a power out there to hinder a team in it's entirety and allowing our most important members to all take damage would be a tenuous spot upon our defenses from a traitorous win-condition.

Yes, gentlemen, it is clear that excelling on a mission does not clear one. My point of agreeing with Mimic's "cleared" comment is more a feeling I have gotten from Erik's post since we first gathered here.

Ms. Frost, you express my own sentiments well with this.

I am in something of a quandary with regard to today's missions. Galactus seeks to devour our world with machines. And the Sentinels, which threaten us, are also mechanized devices. Violent disassembly of metallic objects is my own particular...idiom. I sense that I have value on both missions.

Sentinels which I have destroyed in the past have been designed specifically for the eradication of homo sapiens superior, not so much those whose powers come from a bottle or another source. I offer this as a possible criteria to Apocalypse and our Prelates in determining what resources to encourage to go on which mission.

I appreciate the respect shown by the Second Prelate earlier. In all things, I we submit to the will of Apocalypse.

That would seem to be unwise information for Doom, or any of us, to reveal. Why should we aid the rebels in carefully aiming their attacks and expending their energy?

I find your rantings generally erratic and often insane, but my sense is that this is probably correct.

Victor, I suggest caution in your reply. Remember that your audience is not homogenously friendly to you.

Because I feel your skills are highly needed on the mission, but sending someone to a death sentence isn't part of my ethos.

Yeah, I don't think it wise to be telling how much energy we have. I for one wouldn't fault the Doomster for dodging that one (though I understand what JG was aiming for).

I believe he answered your question prior to you asking. He intends to spend the day rebuilding his armor. I am puzzled by both your question, and your follow-up.

There are needs and there are wants. I understand he wants to spend the day rebuilding and regrouping. I also understand our need of stopping the sentinels. I am wondering where his repairing falls on the need/want spectrum vs our need/want to have a successful mission. Our failure yesterday still burns within me. I do not not want a repeat and will use my power as Prelate to try and ensure that such a failure does not occur again.

And the traitors strike while many of you seem content to run around aimlessly in your jammies.

I agree that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one or the few (Thanks Spock), but do remember that we have 29 remaining team members. I'm all for knocking someone off to help us find the rebels, but we should be able to find a suitable replacement for Doom if he doesn't feel he can do the mission. I'd like to see those who haven't been part of a mission step up and throw some energy into the fray.

Two items of note:
1.) Jewel is withdrawing from the game
2.) See the "Character Guesses" thread for information on an in-game contest

These sentinels are a real threat. We need information for our mission on how these robots are vulnerable. I leave for a mission to find out.

(ooc) I'm off to work, will we back around 5 central

I believe it was general consensus that Magneto came out looking the best in the mission yesterday. If Quicksilver and the Torch had thoughts about it, why didn't they come forth yesterday?

I reiterate my claim that I can stop Galactus. I cannot stop him by myself and I cannot stop him for another three days (I need to conserve my energy). The toll will be great on me, but I will need another's assistance once I defeat Galactus.

It may be prudent to still attack Galactus since he may do something in the time it takes for me to "charge" up.

I will need the other Prelates' assistance, specifically Jean and Magneto...so I ask them again to join the Prelates of Apocalypse.

(ooc) Stephen Strange? (/ooc)

[ooc]Dr. Strange, who was killed last night[/ooc]

I believe Vision has been quite helpful thus far in suggesting missions. I also believe Vision has been quite open in ingratiating himself with the prelates and Apocalypse. While I appreciate the services thus far, I am also quite wary of him.

Mimic, I think there are multiple people, myself included, who have a long-to-develop ability to defeat Galactus. I worry though that using this tact as a main source of planet-eating-prevention is unwise.

I also have the ability to take a number of days to build a device to remove Galactus, but if it comes at the cost of not having my around to do any missions, is it really our best tact?

Ditto this, fellow prelate.

There is a big difference between doing well in a mission and being "cleared". I don't disagree that he did well in the mission. I do disagree that it puts him more than a hair above anyone else. We know that he didn't sabotage the mission, but we don't know if that is because he couldn't (he's on our team), or because he chose not to.

I'm not sure. Certainly your ability is better than mine, since I would need the aid of another player to remove Galactus. Certainly Galactus is one of the win conditions and if we can remove him from the equation or develop a good strategy to remove him, we can concentrate on rooting out the traitors.

Even if it takes you a few days to defeat Galactus, I think removing one player for a few days to eliminate a long-term threat is worth it. There are plenty of people left to pursue the other missions. If we were down to 10 people, I think we would think about this in a different manner.

I said that he was the most cleared of us. I didn't say he was entirely cleared. If he isn't the most cleared, then who is?

Let's see how signups for the missions shake up and then I'll decide. If I'm not needed then maybe I'll start charging what I need to do.

I think either way though, we should have our A-game on for the sentinel mission (lots of people, good amount of energy) and a strong subset of people headed to hopefully stave off Galactus another day. If it takes me 3-4 days we certainly don't want to put all our eggs in my basket (or yours, or even both of ours)

I see much commentary but very little else from you, human.

I understand your wariness, and think that it is wise indeed for us all to remember that any of us, excepting only apocalypse himself, may be hiding a face of betrayal.

It may not be until the end, when all traces of resistance have fallen, that the Vision will get his due reward for his exertions. I am prepared to weather your suspicions, as I believe my contributions to our success will continue to outweigh the nagging questions that you may have, uncertain as you are of my true motives. Only my actions may speak to my loyalty.

I am who I am. Not more, not less. I assure all assembled that I am entirely devoted to Lord Apocalypse and his Prelates. I did my best in the mission yesterday. Ultimately, it was a failure, so I can only be "cleared" so much.

I have attempted to provide what suggestions and leadership I could to further the goals of Apocalypse. I will continue to do so.

I have thought about it considerably. A prelate has asked that I accompany him to the mission to fight Galactus, and unless the First Prelate or Apocalypse direct me otherwise, I do not see that I can legitimately refuse.

Join Galactus Mission

I would agree with the second Prelate here. Our very existence is at stake with Galactus. If there are people amongst us who can slow/stop his advance, it is best we let them work now when there are more of us around to cover for their absences in missions. But we should also not just blindly accept it when someone, forgive me prelates and outside of Lord Apocalypse of course, tells us they have a way to defeat the World-Devourer and needs time to develop it. That would be a very good place for the opposition to attempt to hide their true intentions from us. I have no suspicion of either Prelate Kang or Mimic when I say that-just thought we need to consider that point is all.

With respect, Prelate, I am not one of your number and do not feel it proper for me to join your group. I believe it makes the most sense for me to remain a member of the Brotherhood.

Agreed Henry. I realize that in a way but spilling the beans on my ability casts upon myself the same shadow I'm suggesting, but it warrants a mention. I also think it unlikely that Mimic and myself are the only two with this ability.

If I quit my current team and join the prelate team but don't go on the mission does that hinder the team effect?

I believe that Vision was attempting to try to fill a void in mission organization that was much needed and wanted. Evidently he has more time available to the cause and can dedicate more of his focus to ensure that we were organized. I don't think he was trying to push any kind of agenda, but instead I got the feeling that he was attempting to step up as no one else appeared to have the desire to do so.

I am a bit wary of others that come across as attempting to subtly discourage people who are trying to participate as it feels to me as if they are in turn trying to discourage mission preparation and mission organization. I would encourage Vision to continue to try to work that he has started as it appears very few others right now either have the time or desire to ensure that our missions are covered adequately. I would also hope that Vision received some consideration for the empty Prelate position as he has shown more leadership thus far than many of the other worthy considerations for the placement.

It remains my firm belief that the traitors will not sabotage any mission at least at this early date. The suspicion gathered is not worth the benefit in my eyes.

Team impact on Mission is predicated on number of participating teammates. At least at this stage in the game :) Guys on sidelines don't hurt the team on the Mission, but don't benefit them either.

So anyone believe they have a strong candidate for us to pursue with our attacks today? There is something to inspect in the Silver Samurai/Human Torch/Colossus triangle perhaps, but mostly I feel we are grasping at straws still much like Day 1.

Do you know the specific player you need the aid from?

Apocalypse.

He may be the most cleared of us, but it is by an amount so small that the distinction isn't helpful. I wouldn't put him on the suspect list, but I also wouldn't take him off of the completely unknown list.

In my mind you are making a scary jump to any level of "cleared". It makes me wonder if you decided not to sabotage the mission just so this cleared talk could come up.

Kang, if you truly believe that you might be able in a mere three or four days to rid us entirely of the threat from Galactus, then I say that you, and Mimic as well, would do well to begin those preparations now.

While we still have so many present, this is the time when we can most afford your absence from daily missions. Mimic alluded to this as well.

In the mean time, a team of seven, at least two of which were minimally helpful, seemed to give Galactus pause. I would venture to say we can continue that effort without you two, for a few days, rotating participants as necessary.

That should leave us plenty of talent to draw from to react to these missions. And when the otherworldly threat is gone, we'll have even more resources at our disposal to root out the vermin among us.

In summary, I see dedicating seven of us to the threat of Galactus, with the expectation of that investment paying off within four days, as a very wise use of our abilities.

[ooc] busy morning [/ooc]

If it is determined that a telepath might add the mission against the Sentinals, I am happy to pledge my service there today. The lack of a mission and my attack yesterday means that I could devote more than standard energy to the mission. Or I could rest and continue to build energy for a more suitable mission.

Unfortunately I jumped the gun and quit the Brotherhood before I had coordinated actions with you. I understand completely and wish you the best of luck with the Brotherhood. Perhaps when Apocalypse checks in, things will change.

I do wish for you to continue as you have, you have helped to increase my knowledge of members I am not so familiar with. As you say, your actions will speak for you.

OK then

Leave current team (Strike?)

Join Prelate team

Ms. Grey, to better answer your concern, I am at risk of dying from a single attack tonight if I do not first repair my armor. No more shall Doom reveal lest the traitors prosper and Doom falls, leaving Lord Apocalypse with one less servant.

After much thought and consideration, I also am a bit wary of a few things that Mimic has brought forth. Perhaps it is not my place to criticize a prelate, and if that is the case I expect Apocolypse to punish me accordingly.. however I feel there is a seperate agenda at hand here somewhat.

Mimic was the only one eager enough to forcefully assign someone on a mission that ended up disastrously, to the point of sending them without any time for preparation before hand.

Mimic seemed overly eager to assign clearance to another member based on the results of the failed mission yesterday by proclaiming Magneto to be "most cleared". This is not meant as any slight to Magneto as he has come across with his words and actions to me as one that is not a traitor, and I don't have any negative feelings regarding him, I feel this direct correlation of mission result to clearance is faulty at best.

I am concerned with Mimic overstepping his role by already including Magneto in on a prelate team before any such thing has happened..

And I am very concerned that after all of my talk yesterday regarding how important the teams may end up being for mission bonuses and the like, that today Mimic feels it necessary to not ruin only one team's chemistry, but instead is trying to break apart multiple teams and any bonus that we may be working on (due to time spent together as a team) in order to form a new team.

Perhaps I am just misunderstanding his intentions greatly, but the sum of all of these actions cause me a slight bit of concern today. Once again if this is not my place to criticize a prelate, I humbly apologize, but felt it needed to be said.

I may receive aid from yourself as well as some others in the group. Perhaps if you are so inclined 1st Prelate, you could aid me. I would need you to "charge" me so that I could remove Galactus. You may PM the GMs to work out the specifics.

There's a Prelate team?

Welcome to the team. Hopefully the other Prelates will join us as well as Lord Apocalypse.

I am in agreement with you as to the worth of Vision's services to date. I would be remiss though were I not to note the other possible motivation for such early service.

Are you sure your superhero name isn't Captain Obvious?

As Prelates jump to the Prelate team, I would like to see some of the remainders of those other teams consider joining S.H.I.E.L.D. with Nick Fury, Spiderman, and myself. I'm thinking that if we had two more members, that five of us could use the team benefit and maybe take down the sentinels as a group (or maybe I'm mistaken that there is no benefit for acting as a team).

I must have missed something here, sorry if I'm having trouble keeping on top of all this. But does the idea of the Prelates joining the same team worry anyone else?

You are insightful Richards. I formulated a plan last night to remove Galactus from the game. Unfortunately, the convergence of a few events precipitated this measure. I have a plan at this point and I believe that even though I will require the aid of another (and possibly one more after I remove Galactus) the end result will be one mission accomplished and a cleared player (myself). Perhaps I overstep my role, but if you follow my lead I will only need a few days to remove a threat to all of us and will only require few resources to do so.

I meant to say that the convergence of a few events precipitated the measure of the formulation of a Prelate team.

Charles, bear with me on this because I don't know a great deal about the powers of Emma Frost, Jean Grey, or yourself, except as an observer, and by your reputation as mighty telepaths.

My opinion, though, is that none of the three of you are likely to be well suited for stopping Galactus. Barring Jean harnessing the Pheonix Force, of course, if that is something she is currently able to do.

And as mutants, I know that you have all had run-ins with the Sentinels for decades, however my belief is that we have enough brute-strength types among us that we can throw into this mission.

In finding the subversives among us, however, I would surmise that you three would reign supreme with your particular talents. Would you agree that it might be best for those with the faculties for it, stay behind and use their abilities to seek enemies?

Second Prelate, I think I misread this earlier. Are you asking me to help you charge or go on a Galactus mission?

Mimic - No offense, but I'm not clearing you if you kill Galactus (nor would I expect to be cleared should I do the same).

Goodies and baddies alike need him gone.

The other thing is that I believe Jean Grey will be essential to the Prelate team. She should know why.

Yes. Not only as was pointed out, that Mimic "jumped the gun" by asking Eric to join, but that it is indeed breaking apart the chemistry of existing teams. It would also be quite easy for one traitor in the Prelate team (if another exists) to drive an agenda and convince other Prelates that they should share their plans to give the rebellion advance notice of our strengths and weaknesses, and potentially even cripple important servants of Apocalypse.

Upon further reading about this proposed Prelate-team, it concerns me greatly.

Doom agrees that Kang at least should focus on ridding us of Galactus if indeed he has that power. If he fails to have done so after the time given then we will know who to target. Mimic's power sounds less useful and perhaps should be held us a backup.

In the meantime our best bet for delaying Galactus is to rid ourselves ofa traitor, as I understand it. Doom is unsure how our attacks on the planet eater affect this, but I know that each day a traitor is destroyed Galactus is held at bay.

If Kang may destroy Galactus, and our lynches may delay him, it would seem that we should put most of our effort into this Sentinel mission, while not ignoring Galactus entirely. Are there any others who have a power more useful than these missions? Doom wishes to know.

I would need your assistance to charge.

I was hestitant on it yes. But if this grouping helps us aid in Galactus-killing efforts, I think the reward outweighs the risk.

I believe that those who would be able to aid us in clearing members should be focusing on that task rather than volunteering on missions that may preclude that activity.

I request (not order) that either Vision or someone else with the knowledge or time suggest mission lineups keeping the following in mind:

Sentinel mission should have members that can be effective against machinery. Brute force would also be a benefit I would think, as well as fluidity of action.

Galactus mission should have members that can operate on a cosmic level.

If I am mistaken in the necessities of these missions, please enlighten.

I would guarantee that I would be cleared. I can't say why now, but you'll find out after it is over.

That being said, I think that I have enough inherent defensive abilities to ward off attacks while I'm conserving energy so it may be more prudent for me to take on Galactus than you, especially since we're discussing this in the open.

I think Vision that you would be correct in assuming that. I also hope that Jean and Eric consider carefully the motivations of Mimic in the creation of this Prelate team, and the cohesion and trust that the Brotherhood was beginning to develop, before she decides on a course of action.

Without revealing detail - I believe Jean to be good. I would place her on a level above Eric at this time, as the most cleared of us (apart from Apocalypse). This is because of something that Jean told me about herself.

As such, I am naturally resistant to see her leave my side, when I know that at least I am good, and join a team where there might be potential evil waiting to attempt to subvert her or destroy her.

For those who question me openly, this would be a very bold play to make so early in the game. Either I haven't played before (or in a while) and I don't know what I'm doing or I'm a very stupid traitor.

I'll agree to that. Can you run the 'reward' aspect of this by me again?

Doom - I've stated before and I'll state it again. Putting all the eggs in my basket would be foolish. Basically I have to work on an effort to maniuplate time so large so as to send Galactus, big as he is into a whole other timeline. My guesstimate is 3-4 days depending on the energy I can devote to it.

I see I did not understand what you were asking.

Unjoin Galactus Mission

If Jean needs me to spell it out for her, I can. I would prefer not to, but I will in the interests of Apocalypse. That being said, beware your tone of voice. I am the Second Prelate of Apocalypse and you are but a minion.

My understanding was that the team was created to help aid in the benefit of Mimic stopping Galactus. Pretty big reward IMO

But I fail to follow the logic. How will a Prelate-only team aid in staving off Galactus?

The reward aspect is removing Galactus and thereby meeting one of the win conditions.

Understood.

My main point is, if the write-up is akin to "MIMIC KILLS GALACTUS"

I'll cheer loudly, but not clear you.

I'm presuming it's more than that and if so, let's work on it.

I think if both of us (and possibly anyone else) starts putting in efforts to begin these plans to refute Galactus we should at some point become successful.

In the meantime I support the idea that we attempt to continue to delay him.

At the time, the Prelate only team would aid in staving off Galactus as well as root out the traitors. At this point, it would simply be useful to root out traitors. I cannot tell you any more than that at this point...although at this rate, you may find out anyhow later today.

IIRC that's what Mimic said he needed. Unless I'm misunderstood.

Mimic?

yes, talk about all your eggs in one basket!

Wait, now I'm confused. No offense, but I think we can hunt traitors on our original teams and not put ourselves at risk of any baddie who has a power to effect a whole team.

I"m second guessing this formation.

Thoughts by other prelates?

I'm not advocating this, but the above fact could be rectified, could it not?

Maybe I'm confused here. Although a traitor would be able to influence a whole team with words, maybe I made a huge assumption that a traitor would not have a power to affect an entire team. If that's the case, then certainly all of the Prelates should not join.

Regardless, I think it would be useful if most of the Prelates joined and perhaps the Silver Surfer or the as-yet-unnamed Fifth Prelate stayed off. However, Jean's powers would be essential to this team.

In response to Silver Surfer's request. These suggestions are based on: my impression of each member's power level, stated goals/abilities, and two that I left off for obvious reasons.

Galactus, Sentinels, Finding Traitors

1. Nightcrawler
2. Emma Frost
3. Ghost Rider
4. Hulk
5. Apocalypse (head honcho)
6. Silver Surfer (1st Prelate)
7. Colossus
8. Jean Grey (5th Prelate, promoted to 4th Prelate to start Day 2)
9. Professor X
10. Mr. Fantastic
11. Iron Fist
12. Mimic (2nd Prelate)
13. Henry Pym
14. Vision
15. Kang the Conqueror (3rd Prelate)
16. Beast
17. Dr. Doom
18. Cable
19. Firebird
21. Quicksilver
22. Aardwolf
23. Nick Fury
25. Spider Man
26. Magneto
27. Punisher
28. Human Torch
29. Gambit
30. Scarlet Witch
31. Silver Samurai

I hope this is helpful. It looks like overkill on the Sentinel front, but i wouldn't expect everyone to check in before deadline anyway.

It could, but you don't have the power. :popcorn:

Are you assuming all the Prelates must side with Apocalypse? This is not the case.

[ooc] oh wow...playground bullying. are you going to take your ball and go home because i hurt your widdle feelings? :D [/ooc]

I meant no disrespect Calvin. I have known you since you were but a small child, I will not bow and scrape my head to the floor for you, or indeed for anyone. Indeed, insinuating that I should do so is naught but a sign of weakness. You should know better.

I will question anyone, even Apocalypse himself, because it is in the free-flow of thoughts, information, and yes, opinions, that we have the greatest chance to defeat the rebels, and Galactacus.

If that angers you, well then I'm sorry that your ego has consumed you. But I will not apologize, and I will not stop questioning. And if that means you will send others after me to do your dirty-work, well then so be it.

And this. The Vision makes a good point. I am not going to allow this to happen without good reason.

Android, did you give any consideration to my point that Sentinels are created to target my kind in the development of your list?

Thank you. Of these, Iron Fist and Human Torch are damaged if I recall and should not be on missions today as a result.

I will suggest the following rosters:

Galactus: Silver Surfer, Hulk, Mr. Fantastic, Henry Pym and Magneto. Mimic and Kang can proceed with their Galactus-stopping endeavors for the day.

Sentinels: Firebird, Vision, Colossus, Beast, Cable, Aardwolf, Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver.

Thoughts?

I don't think I would be best suited for any mission.

A team of Prelates would be at risk of having their actions negated or half their energy stolen by a saboteur. I agree with those that argue that a team as proposed by the Second Prelate is unwise.

[ooc]Okay, that was in-character. I didn't think a Prelate would let a guy who needs Rogaine talk to him that way. :)

Also, although you say you don't bow and scrape your head to the floor, your hairline begs to differ. :D

With that folks, I'm out for a bit. I actually need to get some work done today.[/ooc]

Mimic, before you depart, I have a question, which will follow.

Thank you Eric. Your wisdom in support of mine means a great deal to me old friend.

eeegh! Alan outed himself.

quick alanT...delete and repost!

Okey dokey. Shoot.


Ummmmm...not me.

[ooc] no worries, i assumed it was IC...just being silly. no hurt feelings [/ooc]

Because?

I have spoken privately with the powers that be who indicate that you may, indeed, have a unique power with which I can help. The same power will not tell me anything further than that until you tell me more.

Oh well, was bound to happen. Too much work causing me issues with the multiple ID thing.

Understood.

[ooc]I have about ten minutes, so we may be able to get this done now[/ooc]

In that respect (Sorry Kang), I will leave the Prelates and offer my services to the Brotherhood. If Jean will not come to me, I will come to her.

LEAVE PRELATES OF APOCALYPSE