The Final FOFC Draft: Cartoon Character Draft
 

Disclaimer: This idea is not original, but I got it from every other draft thread, and I might as well try to end this thing And I pay homage to Maple Leafs for the ground rules, which have been modified slightly to account for the difference between cartoons and video games.

The draft: I'm looking for ten FOFCers to take part in a ten-round draft. Your drafting cartoon characters (with certain rules, see below). At the end of the draft, a winner will be determined by a vote. The criteria for choosing that winner will be up to the voters, but essentially you want to put together the best possible group of famous characters.

The rules:
1. This only includes Movie cartoons (Mickey Mouse, Nemo, Buzz....) and TV cartoons. Comic strips are not included.
2. Once a character is taken, he's off the board regardless of how many cartoons he's appeared in. If you take Scooby Doo, the next guy can't take Scooby Doo from the Hanna Barbara Laugh-a-lympics.
3. The character can exist in other mediums prior. However, only what they do in cartoons matter when taking into account the relevance of the character if they existed prior to a cartoon. For example, if you take Wolverine, his significance only relates to the X-men cartoon, not the comic, since it came first. Nor does the movie count, because it came from the Comic book. However, everything Bart Simpson spawned (music, phrases, shirts...) counts. This may seem unfair, but its the rules I'm laying down.
4. You can take any type of character (human, creature, male, female, good, bad, etc) as long as you can describe him/her/it in some way that we understand who you mean.
5. You're drafting specific characters, not general types. Bart Simpson from the Simpsons is OK. "the Simpsons" in general are not.
6. If you make an invalid pick based on these rules and someone points it out, you lose your pick. If necessary, be prepared to show some sort of evidence that your pick is valid.
7. Draft will go in serpentine order based off a random order. If needed, we'll put time limits on picks during the week.

I intend to sit on the sidelines and comment, do a mock draft, give my sleepers, surprises and stretches at the end/prior to each round. If you can't handle some good natured ribbing, then this isn't for you. If people want to shout out characters,thats cool. If needed, I will participate.

Current Draft Round 1:
1. PsychoCop - Optimus Prime
2. sterlingice - Bugs Bunny
3. Suicane75 - Homer Simpson
4. ardent enthusiast - Mickey Mouse
5. Chubby - Goku (Dragonball, Dragonball Z, Dragonball GT)
6. TredWel - Donald Duck
7. WSUCougar - Scooby Doo
8. BigJohn&TheLions - Fat Albert
9. Tigercat - Popeye
10. oykib - Tom (from Tom and Jerry)
11. EagleEye11 - Daffy Duck
12. k0ruptr - Fred Flintstone
13. kingfc22 - Goofy
14. SirFozzie - Peter Pan
15. Ragone - Rocky (Rocky and Bullwinkle)

Round 2:
1. Ragone - Bullwinkle (Rocky and Bullwinkle)
2. SirFozzie - Snake Eyes (GI Joe)
3. kingfc22 - Bart Simpson
4. k0ruptr - Mighty Mouse
5. EagleEye11 - Winnie the Pooh
6. oykib - Betty Boop
7. Tigercat - Yogi the Bear
8. BigJohn&TheLions - Captain Caveman
9. WSUCougar - Speed Racer
10. TredWel - Wile E. Coyote
11. Chubby - Hong Kong Phooey
12. ardent enthusiast - Woody Woodpecker
13. Suicane75 - Beavis
14. sterlingice - Pikachu
15. PsychoCop - Astro Boy

Round 3:
1. PsychoCop - Mazinger Z
2. sterlingice - He-Man
3. Suicane75 - Stewie (Family Guy)
4. ardent enthusiast - Papa Smurf
5. Chubby - Elmer Fudd
6. TredWel - Eric Cartman (South Park)
7. WSUCougar - Johnny Quest
8. BigJohn&TheLions - Killer (the buzzard from Buggs Bunny)
9. Tigercat - The Pink Panther
10. oykib - Lynn Minmei
11. EagleEye11 - Felix the Cat
12. k0ruptr - Batman
13. kingfc22 - George (o the Jungle)
14. SirFozzie - Princess Alurra (Voltron)
15. Ragone - RoadRunner

Round 4:
1. Ragone - The Brain (Pinky and The Brain/Tiny Toons)
2. SirFozzie - Wakko Warner (Animaniacs)
3. kingfc22 - Alvin (of "and the Chipmunks)
4. k0ruptr - Johnny Bravo
5. EagleEye11 - SpongeBob Squarepants
6. oykib - Buzz Lightyear (Toy Story)
7. Tigercat - Casper
8. BigJohn&TheLions - Snagglepuss
WSUCougar - Sylvester (the cat)
10. TredWel - Tasmanian Devil
11. Chubby - Cobra Commander
12. ardent enthusiast - Top Cat (via k0ruptor)
13. Suicane75 - Peter Griffin
14. sterlingice - George Jetson
15. PsychoCop - Genie

Round 5:
1. PsychoCop - Simba
2. sterlingice -Garfield
3. Suicane75 - Shaggy
4. ardent enthusiast - Woody (Toy Story)
5. Chubby - Superman
6. TredWel - Inspector Gadget
7. WSUCougar - Tigger
8. BigJohn&TheLions - Princess Ariel
9. Tigercat - The Shredder
10. oykib - Space Ghost
11. EagleEye11 - Snow White
12. k0ruptr - Aladdin
13. kingfc22 - Snoopy
14. SirFozzie - Muttley
15. Ragone - Marvin the Martian

Round 6:
1. Ragone - The Tick
2. SirFozzie - Quickdraw McGraw
3. kingfc22 - Yosemite Sam
4. k0ruptr - Porky Pig
5. EagleEye11 - Charlie Brown
6. oykib - Spiderman
7. Tigercat - Gumby
8. BigJohn&TheLions - Scooby-Dumb
9. WSUCougar - Aquaman
10. TredWel - Bender
11. Chubby - is gay
12. ardent enthusiast - Roger Rabbit
13. Suicane75 - Mr. Burns
14. sterlingice - Megatron
15. PsychoCop - starscream


Round 7:
1. PsychoCop - bravestarr
2. sterlingice - Leonardo
3. Suicane75 - Daphne
4. ardent enthusiast - Donatello
5. Chubby - is a tool
6. TredWel - Foghorn Leghorn
7. WSUCougar - Shrek
8. BigJohn&TheLions - the Great Gazoo
9. Tigercat - Dumbo
10. oykib - Mr. Magoo
11. EagleEye11 - underdog
12. k0ruptr - tweety bird
13. kingfc22 - Keith (voltron)
14. SirFozzie - Baroness
15. Ragone - Strongbad

Round 8:
1. Ragone - Brian Griffin
2. SirFozzie - captain crunch
3. kingfc22 - Belle (Beauty and the Beast)
4. k0ruptr - Barney Rubble
5. EagleEye11 - Ren
6. oykib - Dexter
7. Tigercat - Scrooge McDuck
8. BigJohn&TheLions - Boris Badenov
9. WSUCougar - Josie (of the and the Pussycats)
10. TredWel - Dudley do right
11. Chubby - is giving head.
12. ardent enthusiast - Bobby Hill
13. Suicane75 - Battleship Yamato
14. sterlingice - Chip (Chip & Dale)
15. PsychoCop - Michaelangelo

Round 9:
1. PsychoCop - Raphael
2. sterlingice - Lisa Simpson
3. Suicane75 - duckman
4. ardent enthusiast - Jayce
5. Chubby - gay
6. TredWel - Jay Sherman
7. WSUCougar - Rudolph (the reindeer)
8. BigJohn&TheLions - Ranger Smith
9. Tigercat - Baloo
10. oykib - Jerry (the mouse)
11. EagleEye11 - Wonder Woman
12. k0ruptr - Speedy Gonzalez
13. kingfc22 - Bam-Bam
14. SirFozzie is up
15. Ragone - Nemo

Round 10:
1. Ragone - Mr. Peabody
2. SirFozzie is up
3. kingfc22 is up
4. k0ruptr
5. EagleEye11
6. oykib
7. Tigercat
8. BigJohn&TheLions
9. WSUCougar
10. TredWel
11. Chubby
12. ardent enthusiast
13. Suicane75
14. sterlingice
15. PsychoCop

Count me in.

Note: Once I get some people offering to be in it, I'll start mocking it up and stuff, do some random numbering, and then starting for real on Monday when I wake up. Hopefully this thing can start running smoothly while I am at school during the day, then I can make snide remarks when I get out of class.

If you can't be around the computer a lot during the draft, feel free to send me list ( you top 10 or 20), and I'll put those as your pick as they come up on the list. Hopefully it will move quickly , at least a pick an hour if possible, though I don't expect it to go all night.

I'm in. I could use the humor. I hope you can.

I'm in

Sure.

I missed the Video Game draft (a good thing, in retrospect), so I'll do this one.

I'm game.

I promise to try and draft only my favorite characters, regardless of what you people think. :)

dola, we're filling quickly now!

I'm in :)

I'd like to be in.

ooh sounds like fun :)

I'm in, might as well use all the time i spend on this board is some concrete fashion.

Hell, I could even maybe get into this one (if there is an opening...)

If there's still an opening, I'd want to be in. :D

I'm down if there is an opening....

Ill be in if there's still an opening.

I'd like in if there's an opening. If not, I suppose I can do commentary again as cartoons are another of my fortes. Unfortunately, I'm running low on time as the semester is gearing up.

SI

Well, I'm going to bump it up to 12, since I'm trying to include as many people as possible. Edit: Now 15

The 12 in it, the I will use a random number to determine the order:
Note: THis is not the draft order, but the signup order
1. Suicane75
2. ardent enthusiast
3. Chubby
4. WSUCougar
5. TredWel
6. kingfc22
7. SirFozzie
8. k0ruptr
9. Ragone
10. Tigercat
11. BigJohn&TheLions
12. PsychoCop
13. oykib
14. EagleEye11
15. sterlingice

I'll start thinking of mock draft stuff and enter a Random Number generator. I'll post the results tomorrow, and we will start promptly at 8 AM on Monday. That being said, it will really be up to the first person to actually start with the picks. As I said ,hopefully an average of about a pick an hour during the daytime, then whatever through late night.

Bump it to 15, punk. Let SI in. I command thee.

Yes, bump it to 15 for the sake of SI.

:)

And EE11. :)

OK, 15 it is.

Woo Hoo, thanks Easy Mac.

Draft Order:
12. PsychoCop
15. sterlingice
1. Suicane75
2. ardent enthusiast
3. Chubby
5. TredWel
4. WSUCougar
11. BigJohn&TheLions
10. Tigercat
13. oykib
14. EagleEye11
8. k0ruptr
6. kingfc22
7. SirFozzie
9. Ragone

This starts Monday, but get your ideas a'runnin'

:( too late again.

MattJones, you can be my offensive coordinator. :)

EagleEye, you should thank me as well. I commanded him. :)

Too true, thanks AE. This should be fun.

Shoot, I'm not going for the win. I'm going for obscurity. I already know who'll I'll draft. No one will touch my draft picks. :)

I wonder how long until the first Japanese Cartoon Porn characters come in....

Japanese Porn?

And yes, if you're wondering, all TV or Movie cartoon characters are eligible... so if you want to say some obscure cartoon from Botswana, so be it.

But to note: You can't say Botswana Scooby Doo if someone has already said Scooby Doo.

Rock on.

Blew my first pick already. I was going to use Botswana Scooby Doo. AGGHHH.

Well, I think there are 2 consensus top picks so I'll get the one that PsychoCop doesn't. :D

SI

I doubt consensus is the word to use here. My picks will hardly be the popular choices. :) Looking forward to the draft grade already. :)

A couple of rules suggestions to float (and obviously if you think they're a bad idea, since it's your draft, just pass them up).

On #6- With only 10 picks in the draft, why not just say they lose the pick but get a chance to get a new pick (but it likely will be after a few others have already picked unless people jump on your pick immediately after you make it). Also, have a little of a statue of limitations on this so that someone in the 10th round can't say the person's pick in the 1st round is invalid.

On #3, I'm curious for a clarification since I'm kindof unclear. Let me think... trying to come up with an example, ok, let's say, the Powerpuff Girls, they were in cartoon form first and then had a movie. So does all of that count since they were cartoon first?

Again, just a couple of suggestions. Do with them as you will.

SI

Powerpuff girls movie was animated as well. Perhaps the better name to this draft would be the Animated Character's Draft :).

You have the 3rd pick, the draft order is the order of the name listed, the number next to your name is your signup number

Ya know, I looked at that for half an hour and couldn't figure that out. I should never post while drinking.

oooh! i get the first pick... hmmm... I'm pretty much a hardcore 80's toons fans, so you probably all know who I'm going to pick. :D

BUT I'm pretty much guessing that everyone's clamoring for either the head of the Disney Empire OR the head of the Warner Bros. Empire to be selected first... right?

So... I will still have to THINK! Yes, people. THINK! But heck, I'd probably go with my heart rather than my mind...

EasyMac, I live in a different time zone... about 10 hours in difference, so I'll just PM you my first pick on Sunday Night, ET. Alrighty?

cool

You better have some good commentary lined up. :)

Being at #3, Im very interested to see who goes 1-2, I feel like either way I'm gonna get 1 of the cornerstones or the one I REALLY Want, so i'll be good either way.

I'm planning on it, but my girl took up too much of my time this morning... but trust me, I was thinking about you guys the whole time.

Of course, now she has me going to her house to watch the Super Bowl with her parents, so...

:eek: You've been Doug Christied

Well, when you're getting what you're getting, you don't complain (and yes, I'm talking in the 2nd person.)

In my opinion, its more of a criteria to use when you think of significance. So if a cartoon was first in print (comic) form, its harder to say that all cultural significance that came after it was due to the animated cartoon series (So like the X-men were a comic, then a pretty good cartoon, then a movie). Its more of a vote criteria at the end in determining the "top" team. If you want to argue that an X-men movie only came about because of the awesome cartoon, feel free, you may convince people.

And Movie cartoons count as well. This is for things like Mickey Mouse, Nemo, the Antz or whatever.

Dude, why did you mention Mickey mouse, now everyone knows about him!!
:)

(Disclaimer: This is my opinion only, so if you think other characters are better, thats cool)
Mock Top 10: (Part 1, 1-5)
1. Mickey Mouse - The Mouse is responsible for everything. Steamboat Mickey was the beginning of the celluloid cartoon. Some may put Bugs Bunny at the top, but the Mouse has lasted longer, has a theme park, and has spawned an empire that will seemingly never die. While he himself hasn't done the movie thing lately, his pioneering ways make him the top in my opinion.

2. Bugs Bunny - I wouldn't be surprised to see the "wascally wabbit" to go #1. He has done more than Mickey in the past 20 years and is on TV all the time. He too has spawned an empire as well, and is the face of the Loony Toons. He is more visible than Mickey these days, but he is the Larry Doby of the draft... he's just as good as the mouse and may be a little better, but the Mouse was the first.

3. Daffy Duck - Once you get out of the top 2, it becomes a much more wide open draft. I could see pick 3 going in a number of directions depending on personal preference. I prefer the duck myself. He's a big name at number 3, but has been stuck in 2nd fiddle mode for a long time. He's not the breakout star of the draft, but he is just as important as Bugs Bunny. "Duck Season, Rabbit Season" is one of the most famous exchanges in cartoon history, and it takes two to tango.

4. Fred Flinstone - He's not the biggest name, and I cold easily see him slip out of the first round for more contemporary characters. However, he is the basis for a lot of the oafish characters you see in cartoons today. His work can easily be seen in the characters of Homer Simpson or Peter Griffin. Plus, he had a hot wife, and Pebbles was hot when she grew up. He also spawned the Jetsons or anti-Flinstones. Of course, there was the two Flinstones movies... so...

5. Scooby-Doo - The dog is by far my favorite cartoon character ever, but he could go anywhere from 3rd to just at the end of the first round. I've seen top 10 lists where he wasn't even listed, but I don't know how he can fall that far. It really doesn't get any better than a scared dog eating a lot and solving crime capers. He also lent his considerable talents to the Laugh-a-lympics, and spawned a movie with the lovely Sarah Michelle Gellar (and the horrible Freddie Prinze).

Man, this is tougher than I thought trying to rank these fairly. The next top 10 later today.

Bump

SI

And with the first pick of the FOFC Cartoon Character Draft...

Despite the severe popularity of the other cartoon characters, and the sheer financial success that they have spawned for their companies... I cannot deny the fact that I was born and raised in the 1980's. Screw picking the popular choices. No cartoon character has affected me in a greater way than this one... he made me jump for joy when he kicked ass... he made me cry when he died... no other character has had the same emotional pull as this one...

#1 - Optimus Prime - Leader of the Autobots, defender of the weak, protector of justice. From the cartoon "The Transformers". :) So there, I open this one with a SHOCKER!

As much as I love Op (I have a poster in my room), I gotta go with one of the two empire giants with the #2 pick. Got a need for a franchise QB so I can't pass one up just because there's a nice flashy wideout in the draft. I've waffled back and forth as to which I want, but I think I'm going to go with the rabbit over the mouse. Can't go wrong with this pick either way.

1.2 Bugs Bunny

SI

Got to love the way these drafts start. While Optimus Prime is no doubt a great cartoon character, I just don't see him as top 5 material. Still a good pick, seeing as how PC's next pick won't be until the end of the 2nd round (remember, Snake Draft). This may be a bit more interesting than it could have been.

Nothing much to say on Bugs, he went around where he should, and a very solid first pick in the draft... you could see the elation on SI's face that he still had two franchise players available to him.

Come one Suicane, pick Peter Griffin so we can really have some fun.

Op is grossly underrated. :) At least he gets his props here, IN THIS THREAD. Boo-Yah! I wanted to grab him before he went out to some lower-seeded draftee team...I love these Snake Drafts. :) I get 2 consecutive picks when my time comes... :)

I thought we might get a separate thread for this.

Could we?

Looks at clock....

Umm, yeah.

FWIW, I have sent my pick in via PM. I have been here some time now, but unfortunately unable to pick.

Punks.

Any hoo, I'll be in class until 6 central most likely. If I somehow get to pick then, and it looks possible that I will, then I will announce it.

Super Bowl hangovers suck DOH!, but with the 3rd pick, Im taking the man who revolutionized something and blah blah blah, I am taking,


Round 1, Pick #3- Homer Simpson.

Round 1 Pick 4

Ardent Enthusiast picks - Mickey Mouse

chubby is up

Well, I'm a little surprised that Mickey dropped down to 4, I guess not being in a cartoon of note for the past 50 some odd year (Fantasia 2000 doesn't count) really hurts.

I'm a bit shocked Homer went as high as he did. I think Bart is more of the breakout star of the Simpsons, and the Homer era of the cartoon is among the weakest years of the series. But I guess getting a word in the dictionary is important.... just don't have a cow if I say this is too soon.

In truth, I was hoping to nab Homer with my first rounder. I think he's passed son Bart in the cartoon lexicon.

I dunno, Homer really became popular around the 6th or 7th season, and the show was on the tail-end of its "high-period." I think the last few seasons have really soured my feeling on Homer's value to the show.

Perhaps in terms of the show itself, but his societal impact continues to grow (like his beer gut). The fact that he was the cartoon star of a Visa ad for the Super Bowl is proof in itself, but everywhere you go, there is Homer.

As soon as this draft was concieved I had Homer in mind as my first pick if he was still available. I understand the cultural impact of other characters but Homer to me defines the Simpsons.

I'm very happy with the character that put Disney on the map.

some interesting picks so far...

Still on the board:
Fred Flinstone
Scooby Doo
The Ducks - Daffy and Donald
Bart Simpson
Papa Smurf
Astro
Loony Toons..........
Gay Disney characters
Odd Japanese characters

yay my pick (hopefully) isnt listed in that list, lol.

Did I forget the Care Bears? or Huckleberry Hound

SHHHH...!!!! just kidding... You forgot princess mononoke.!!!

well, I'm going to be at work until about 9:30 PM PST so I'll send a little list to Easy Mac.

cool. With the way its going ,you may be back in time. But people are at work, so its ok.

#5 Goku (Dragonball, Dragonball Z, Dragonball GT)

All those Japanese and American zealots CAN'T be wrong. The star of 3 cartoon series (and magna). When the creator of the series, Akira Toriyama, tried to make Goku's son the new star of the story the fans revolted and Goku was brought back (and back and back and...). Regarded as one of the best action cartoons of all time, Goku was the star in a series that has over 500 episodes combined and over $3 billion in reltaed merchandise sales.

Unfortunately, you only get the cartoon. Dragonball was a manga first.

But that's still 500 episodes, 17 movies, and two TV specials.

#6 - Donald Duck

Aside from Mickey, easily the most recognizable Disney character. Brought a girlfriend, nephews, nieces, a rich uncle, whatever the hell Ludwig was, and countless other sidekicks and villians into the Disney mainstream. He and his cadre of mallards appeared in many cartoons and created many spinoffs over the last 70 years.

I know, DB, DBZ, and DBGT still stand well enough on their own considering most people in the US don't even know about the magna.

I think it's a great pick. I wouldn't have taken him #5 with this audience, though.

[venting otaku] Also, GT is as bad as the other seiries are good. Whatta piece o' crap... :mad:

[/venting otaku]

Yeah I know, I figured it probably wouldn't go over to well but w/e. Haven't gotten a chance to see any of GT and I'm not too sad about it either. Everything I have heard is that it sucks Saiyian ass...

Sorry, Chubby, but I got nothing. I've never heard of your guy. :)

Seriously.

Hope no one forgets the Jetsons...maybe a few late rounders...

Well, it only took 5 picks before there was a mystery guest. I was actually thinking a Dragonball z guy might go pretty high, but seeing as how I don't know a damn thing about the show, I'll take this at face value.

Donny Duck is a playa, and is always a good pickup. He spawned a million cartoons (Ducktales, Darkwing Duck... ummm some other things).

WSUCougar is on the clock.

I would say Goku's a reach only because of who is picking. If you asked any kid under 10, they would know who he is. But, by that same token, why not Pikachu- he's as well known by kids and *also* well known by others. There are still legends on the board so I think it's a reach.

Then again, I looked up cartoon lists and ran across TVGuide.com's list and they were clearly on crack when they made it. Here's their top 10:

Quote:

1. Bugs Bunny

I think #4, 7, 9, and 10 show that this list was made by someone under 15 or at least with that mentality as these are not in my top 50. On top of that, I wouldn't have 3 or 5 in the top 10, but they would be in the top 30 (maybe- I haven't done the math). Mickey is a dismal 19th while Tom and Jerry are in the high 40s. Again, people on crack.

SI

Also, I know the grinch cartoon is the shiznit, but he's a book character first for me, then a cartoon.

Well, certainly, but it's all relative. I have a list of about 100 cartoon characters I would like to have on my team but only a couple in the first round because a lot would be a stretch.

SI

I like to just list everyone...regardless of who is gone. I cross em out as they're taken, and who's at the top of the list is my choice.

Kind of like taking the best available athlete late in the first round of the NFL draft. :)

Ruh-ro!
 

Well, my boy is sitting right there. He was my favorite many, many years ago as a mere lad, and I'll make him my first-rounder now:

SCOOBY DOO

Where are you? We've got some work to do now.

Excellent choice, WSU. Can't believe he got that far.

I'd rather pick Kenny ahead of Cartman but that's just me

Yikes, my pick is still not up yet.

This party sucks.

I've been waiting to make my pick forever it seems like. Perhaps a clock limit is in order?

i agree, i think a clock limit is what we need.

Bump this baby up, BigJohn is online, hurry up and pick! Before I go insane with draft waiting anxiety!

For the Love of God pick!!!!!!!!!

I PMd him too

Maybe this is the Minneasota Vikings strategy? I am ready to run my pick up to the Commish anytime i get a green light!

lmao. i agree lets go