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Solecismic 11-18-2004 12:45 PM

Front Office Football 2004, Version 5.1
 
Solecismic Software is proud to announce the release of Front Office Football 2004, version 5.1, a full update for the latest game in our series of award-winning career-play football simulations.

Version 5.1 is free for those who already own Front Office Football 2004. New features include a 2004 player file and schedule and a primer offering a completely random player universe with every new career.

As a pre-holiday shopping period bonus, we are dropping the purchase price to $29.95 for those of you who don't already have the game.

Solecismic Software is an entertainment software company dedicated to producing cutting-edge career football simulations. We have two products available: Front Office Football, our professional football simulation, and The College Years, our college football simulation.

A career-play football simulation focuses on elements of the game you won't find in more traditional computer games. Please visit www.FrontOfficeGames.com for more details about the release and to try free demonstration versions of our products.

Blackadar 11-18-2004 12:45 PM

SWEET!

Noop 11-18-2004 12:46 PM

Wow.

Blackadar 11-18-2004 12:46 PM

First response, too! :)

Where's my cookie?

Vince 11-18-2004 12:46 PM

Nice :)

Ksyrup 11-18-2004 12:46 PM

OK, so what's the new game? :p

GrantDawg 11-18-2004 12:46 PM

Ok, so are we still to expect another game, or is this it?

Noop 11-18-2004 12:47 PM

So no new game Jim?

Ksyrup 11-18-2004 12:47 PM

Front Office Games as a linked URL? Is this new info, or did I miss this in the past?

gottimd 11-18-2004 12:48 PM

Am I the only one who can't find the "New" or "updated" features?

cubboyroy1826 11-18-2004 12:49 PM

Free, did he say free? No way. Come on new players and a new schedule that is at least worth 39.95 just ask EA they will tell ya.

Thanks Jim this is great news. I was looking for a new game to purchase but i dont think i will need to spend that money. Have a great Thanksgiving.

:)

Eaglesfan27 11-18-2004 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup
Front Office Games as a linked URL? Is this new info, or did I miss this in the past?


Seems like new info to me :)

SackAttack 11-18-2004 12:50 PM

Damn, and I missed this cuz I was in my PM box. Off to download it.

One question, though, Jim: am I going to have to restore any IHOF settings afterwards?

JAG 11-18-2004 12:50 PM

The following items were fixed or added for version 5.1 of Front Office Football 2004 (the patch also includes all fixes from earlier versions):

1) Created 2004 season player file.

2) Created 2004 schedule.

3) Reversed pass rush percentage and tackle percentage labels on defensive career statistics screen.

4) Correct record-keeping of best per-game points scored average for one season.

5) Correct record-keeping of best total yardage gained and allowed for a single game.

6) Percentage of running plays now adjusted for all scenarios when coach is resetting game plans before each game.

7) Under certain penalty situations game no longer incorrectly displays drive in drive chart.

8) Penalties in play-calling mode on kickoffs where foul occurred very close to goal line no longer potentially result in next play starting from zero yard line.

9) Players released during free agency stages in multi-player game are now eligible to consider bids immediately.

10) Relevant highlighting added for players on free agency screen during multi-player game.

11) Correct assignment of visiting team's defensive front seven versus home team's blockers category in game preview screen.

12) AI gives less weight to rookie status, especially low-round rookies, when deciding who to release when it needs to release a player.

13) Changes made to depth chart AI to allow for more sensible backup choices, especially on offensive line.

14) Corrected cosmetic error in injury report email, allowing a player to be listed both as he healed and as he was almost recovered.

15) On the player salary offer screen, now shows current offer from your team in offer boxes, if there is one, during free agency period.

16) Corrected cosmetic error of some unassigned free agents appearing to come from Akron during free agency of multi-player game.

17) Grey out ability to export stage file during multi-player game when the game is open and you have already hit the export button once to create a file. In the past, this created a corrupted file.

18) Reduce the number of interceptions returned for touchdowns.

19) Add a little more slope between mediocre starters and top starters to the algorithm determining player salary requests.

20) Reduce the number of free agents considered starting material, allowing slightly better performance of salary request AI.

21) Allow fifth column of statistics to appear in FOF drafts generated from draft utility.

22) Assign the same salary to all franchise players at the same position, correcting error where first player considered at a position would bump up the average.

23) Do not show rookie ratings, pre-signing, on attribute screen.

24) Several changes in AI for determining the value of a salary offer, including more value given to bonus money and less to money offered in future years. The result of this also essentially ends the annoying habit of players to refuse any offer that doesn't exactly match their request.

25) Tweak attendance algorithm to give more weight to fluctuating factors like the interest level of the opponent.

26) Add fluctuation to weather in stadiums with a retractable roof.

27) Tie available bonus money for salary and staff offers to the team's financial performance for the year.

28) Correct interpretation of staff salaries when computing yearly coaching costs.

29) Add comments to help file about positional requirements.

30) Tweak AI for late fourth-quarter clock management. Some day, maybe in 2010, we'll get this down perfectly.

31) Add field goal percentage to calculated statistics on career, single-player and yearly statistics screens. Add a significant digit for rushing averages.

32) Eliminate ability of quarterbacks to fly down the field at lightning speed to make the tackle on an interception return.

33) Correct assignment of forced fumbles on sack plays.

34) Correct calculation of over cap rejection when making offers to free agents prior to the draft.

35) Add a "primer", allowing you to create an entirely fictional universe when beginning career with allocation draft or full draft. Pretty neat, huh?

36) Prevent AI from releasing injured players in certain situations.

37) Tweak logic used to select players during an allocation draft.

38) Create the concept of positional groups, used when calculating a legal roster, both for single-player and multi-player games. Now, for instance, you need to have eight offensive linemen active, but only a minimum of one center, two tackles and two guards. The same applies for defensive linemen, linebackers, your secondary and your offensive backfield.

39) Add the concept of an extended game log, which stores bits of additional information in the game log displayed upon request.

40) When switching a player's position between position groups, better assignment of previously unassigned attributes.

41) Correct assessment of leaders in certain categories when sorting using the career statistics screen.

42) Rewrote AI for determining which player to release when in the situation of reconfiguring a lineup because the current roster has too many players.

43) Tiny tweak to assessment of scouting error for players not on your team.

44) Lower the reward for repeated blitzes coming from the same position. Sooner or later, the offense is going to figure it out.

45) Some nagging injuries, like a pulled hamstring, should have a good chance of healing completely during the off-season.

46) Delay of game penalties should not be called in a hurry-up situation.

47) Allow third quarterback to remain in depth chart when injured and unable to play. This does not mean he will appear in a game.

Franklinnoble 11-18-2004 12:51 PM

This just made my day. :D

A few questions:

1. Will current leagues (SP and MP) work ok? I assume so...
2. Is this the new game? Or is there something else on the way?

Thanks again... As always, I appreciate your outstanding support of your games.

Solecismic 11-18-2004 12:52 PM

This is it for 2004. It's been two solid months of work on the TCY and FOF updates, so I hope that buys some goodwill (and a bunch of new sales) as I prepare for the future. Exprect the next news release in mid-2005.

VPI97 11-18-2004 12:54 PM

Great news, Jim!

Quote:

Originally Posted by SackAttack
One question, though, Jim: am I going to have to restore any IHOF settings afterwards?

Not so great news...for now, I would like to ask IHOF owners to see if we can hold off installing the patch until we determine whether or not we want to migrate the league over to 5.1 now, or after the season.

We'll have a discussion at the board.

Huckleberry 11-18-2004 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solecismic
Exprect the next news release in mid-2005.


Why, that's smack dab in the middle of baseball season.

;)

Eaglesfan27 11-18-2004 12:56 PM

That list of fixes/enhancements is excellent!! 47 gems. I really like being able to keep the 3QB in the depth chart even if injured. Also, the idea of positional groups is excellent!!! All of them look great :)

SackAttack 11-18-2004 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VPI97
Great news, Jim!

Not so great news...for now, I would like to ask IHOF owners to see if we can hold off installing the patch until we determine whether or not we want to migrate the league over to 5.1 now, or after the season.

We'll have a discussion at the board.


Yup. I'm downloading it right now so I'll have it, but I'll hold off on installation for now.

Franklinnoble 11-18-2004 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solecismic
This is it for 2004. It's been two solid months of work on the TCY and FOF updates, so I hope that buys some goodwill (and a bunch of new sales) as I prepare for the future. Exprect the next news release in mid-2005.


That's good enough for me.

As a current customer, I feel like I just got two free games this year. :D

JeeberD 11-18-2004 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solecismic
38) Create the concept of positional groups, used when calculating a legal roster, both for single-player and multi-player games. Now, for instance, you need to have eight offensive linemen active, but only a minimum of one center, two tackles and two guards. The same applies for defensive linemen, linebackers, your secondary and your offensive backfield.


Word!

VPI97 11-18-2004 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franklinnoble
As a current customer, I feel like I just got two free games this year. :D

Ditto.

Anthony 11-18-2004 12:59 PM

Quote:

24) Several changes in AI for determining the value of a salary offer, including more value given to bonus money and less to money offered in future years. The result of this also essentially ends the annoying habit of players to refuse any offer that doesn't exactly match their request.


Ave Maria!

Eaglesfan27 11-18-2004 01:01 PM

You definitely bought some goodwill from me. I can't wait to purchase your next game in 2005 :)

Ben E Lou 11-18-2004 01:02 PM

This is a very, very nice upgrade. It is also mirrored at the younglife server. In case you didn't realize it, the "FRONT OFFICE FOOTBALL 2004" header in the reference thread is a direct link to download the game from there.

Ksyrup 11-18-2004 01:03 PM

38) Create the concept of positional groups, used when calculating a legal roster, both for single-player and multi-player games. Now, for instance, you need to have eight offensive linemen active, but only a minimum of one center, two tackles and two guards. The same applies for defensive linemen, linebackers, your secondary and your offensive backfield.



This may be worth the update in and of itself and get me interested, once again, in committing some time to firing up FOF. And just in time for the Thanksgiving weekend. Thanks!

tategter 11-18-2004 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27
You definitely bought some goodwill from me. I can't wait to purchase your next game in 2005 :)


ditto

Ksyrup 11-18-2004 01:04 PM

Jeeber beat me to it!

Fonzie 11-18-2004 01:04 PM

Happy happy!

flere-imsaho 11-18-2004 01:05 PM

Wow, this is fantastic! So many GREAT changes. Seriously, after reading the list of features & fixes, I wouldn't have a problem paying for this as if it was version 6.0.

Nice work, Jim! :D

jbmagic 11-18-2004 01:05 PM

Jim thanks so much

i want to thank you for being honest with me and gave me the advice to wait...


i going to get this game..

thanks again

sabotai 11-18-2004 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG
38) Create the concept of positional groups, used when calculating a legal roster, both for single-player and multi-player games. Now, for instance, you need to have eight offensive linemen active, but only a minimum of one center, two tackles and two guards. The same applies for defensive linemen, linebackers, your secondary and your offensive backfield.

42) Rewrote AI for determining which player to release when in the situation of reconfiguring a lineup because the current roster has too many players.

47) Allow third quarterback to remain in depth chart when injured and unable to play. This does not mean he will appear in a game.


These three alone will make multi-player SOOO much better.

But I must confess, I'm kind of bummed. I assumed like everyone else that a new game was on the way. Now we go back to nothing until mid-2005. Kind of a let down. Don't get me wrong, the update to TCY and FOF are fantastic, and in the hands of other developers (looking your way, EA), might have been repackaged and released as another version. Very very grateful that Jim gave this out as a free update.

Honolulu Blue 11-18-2004 01:08 PM

Thanks for the update, Jim. I'll have to transfer '04 over to the new computer and maybe fire up a dynasty for the fun of it. Thanks also to JAG for posting the list of fixes. I was especially amused by Jim's comments in these (emphasis mine):

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG
The following items were fixed or added for version 5.1 of Front Office Football 2004 (the patch also includes all fixes from earlier versions):
30) Tweak AI for late fourth-quarter clock management. Some day, maybe in 2010, we'll get this down perfectly.

32) Eliminate ability of quarterbacks to fly down the field at lightning speed to make the tackle on an interception return.
35) Add a "primer", allowing you to create an entirely fictional universe when beginning career with allocation draft or full draft. Pretty neat, huh?


Celeval 11-18-2004 01:09 PM

Jim, you're the man. :-)

RPI-Fan 11-18-2004 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solecismic
This is it for 2004. It's been two solid months of work on the TCY and FOF updates, so I hope that buys some goodwill (and a bunch of new sales) as I prepare for the future. Exprect the next news release in mid-2005.


Thanks, greatly appreciated - that's all I (and I assume most others) were looking for re: new game info.

Celeval 11-18-2004 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG
44) Lower the reward for repeated blitzes coming from the same position. Sooner or later, the offense is going to figure it out.


...and there go Teeters' and Culpepper's stats. :-D

Kevin

jbmagic 11-18-2004 01:11 PM

i am new to fof 2004

what is Created 2004 season player file that was added? can someone explain thanks

Ben E Lou 11-18-2004 01:13 PM

Check out the names of the rookies in the default player file.

KWhit 11-18-2004 01:15 PM

Great stuff, Jim.

Thanks.

Pyser 11-18-2004 01:17 PM

being able to keep an injured qb on the depth chart, and not releasing someone to add a 4th qb is HUGE HUGE HUGE! thank you!!!

id list every change i love, but suffice to say, that would take too long. much appreciated, jim!

(and down goes consulo!!! whoo-hoo!!!!!!!)

hukarez 11-18-2004 01:19 PM

Quote:

31) Add field goal percentage to calculated statistics on career, single-player and yearly statistics screens. Add a significant digit for rushing averages.
Woohoo! Goodbye, calculator! Hekekekekekeke!

General Mike 11-18-2004 01:19 PM

Wow, that's some nice stuff.

Ben E Lou 11-18-2004 01:22 PM

Front page updated.

Franklinnoble 11-18-2004 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyDog
Check out the names of the rookies in the default player file.


What am I looking for? Or, what will I be looking for, once I d/l and install the thing?

Franklinnoble 11-18-2004 01:24 PM

Jim... any new easter eggs in this version?

Just wondering... :D

digamma 11-18-2004 01:33 PM

Is the patch a full download of the game? I'm going to use my second license to load it up.

Ben E Lou 11-18-2004 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digamma
Is the patch a full download of the game?

Yes.

digamma 11-18-2004 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyDog
Yes.

Gracias.

chinaski 11-18-2004 01:39 PM

brings a tear to my eye!

Daimyo 11-18-2004 01:41 PM

Can someone who has patched please post one of the new "extended" log files?

mckerney 11-18-2004 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup
38) Create the concept of positional groups, used when calculating a legal roster, both for single-player and multi-player games. Now, for instance, you need to have eight offensive linemen active, but only a minimum of one center, two tackles and two guards. The same applies for defensive linemen, linebackers, your secondary and your offensive backfield.



This may be worth the update in and of itself and get me interested, once again, in committing some time to firing up FOF. And just in time for the Thanksgiving weekend. Thanks!


This will be helpful, but unfortunately fullbacks are grouped with runningbacks instead of TEs, meaning we can't fill the position with any combo of 3 TE/FBs.

jbmagic 11-18-2004 01:43 PM

i will download and buy the game when i get home from work


i not clear on what 2004 player file is?

is that real players or fictional?

sachmo71 11-18-2004 01:43 PM

Quote:

Create the concept of positional groups, used when calculating a legal roster, both for single-player and multi-player games. Now, for instance, you need to have eight offensive linemen active, but only a minimum of one center, two tackles and two guards. The same applies for defensive linemen, linebackers, your secondary and your offensive backfield.


Yahoooo! AND...the HFL hasn't started the season yet!!!

cubboyroy1826 11-18-2004 01:43 PM

Okay real dumb question. I downloaded the file on my new laptop and the player file is not the players real names. I am pretty sure that is correct but want to verify it. The rookies and all players numbers match up with their real counterparts so i am sure someone will be creating a player file with the real names. Can someone just confirm this, thanks.

Danny 11-18-2004 01:48 PM

Thanks Jim :)

Cap Ologist 11-18-2004 01:52 PM

Thanks Jim, I'm downloading it right now, the wife has a meeting to go to tonight, you couldn't have released it at a better time.

Looking forward to your next project.

Pyser 11-18-2004 01:54 PM

just noticed the mp coach of the year bug wasnt included in the list. its never bothered me, though.

im actually happier to get a patch than entirely new version of the game, which would have really screwed up mp leagues.

Godzilla Blitz 11-18-2004 02:00 PM

Simply outstanding support to make so many free, substantive changes to what was already a finished product.

In case it matters, when I see support like this, I go from a "wait and see" on future releases to a "definite buy".

I've been itching to start a FOF/TCY game up again but have been waiting to see what was coming up. Time to get started!

Thanks, Jim! Great stuff!

Havok 11-18-2004 02:07 PM

all i gotta say is.... WOOT!!! :)

SplitPersonality1 11-18-2004 02:12 PM

Quote:

42) Rewrote AI for determining which player to release when in the situation of reconfiguring a lineup because the current roster has too many players.


Hallelujah!

The eNFL Houston Texans thank you.

Subby 11-18-2004 02:15 PM

I had sent an email to Jim a few months back on behalf of The FOFL and he not only sent a nice reply, but also addressed every major concern of ours in this patch.

From all 32 of us...

Thank you, Jim.

Cap Ologist 11-18-2004 02:25 PM


Here you go, Daimyo.

Game Log: Houston at Indianapolis.


Attendance: 71,500 (75,000).



Upper Deck: 18,000 (20,000).

End Zone: 14,100 (14,400).

Mezzanine: 8,300 (8,300).

Sidelines: 12,000 (12,700).

Club Seats: 15,300 (15,300).

Luxury Boxes: 3,800 (4,300).



Weather: 68 degrees, fair.



Houston won the toss and elected to receive.



Beginning of First Quarter.



IND 12 Dennis kicked off 66 yards from the IND30.

HOU 41 McKenney returned the ball 24 yards to the HOU28. Tackled by IND 89 Hanna.



Possession to Houston.



1-10-HOU28 (14:36) HOU 37 Kinney ran outside the right tackle for 2 yards.

Tackled by IND 38 Hoying.



2-08-HOU30 (14:05) HOU 19 Griffin pass was dropped by 88 Brumbaugh.

Penalty: HOU - Illegal Use of the Hands.



2-18-HOU20 (13:58) HOU 19 Griffin pass completed to 46 Calmus for 9 yards.

Tackled by IND 51 Lewis.



3-09-HOU29 (13:20) HOU 19 Griffin pass completed to 83 Bermudez for 4 yards.

Tackled by IND 38 Hoying, assisted by IND 79 Huntley.



4-05-HOU33 (12:42) HOU 14 Wentworth punted 46 yards from the HOU33.

The ball was marked out of bounds at the IND21.



Possession to Indianapolis.



1-10-IND21 (12:34) IND 22 Heupel ran inside the left tackle for 8 yards.

Tackled by HOU 56 Fox, assisted by HOU 39 Springer.

Key block delivered by IND 52 Hutchins.



2-02-IND29 (11:57) IND 22 Heupel ran inside the left tackle for 0 yards.

Tackled by HOU 73 Stephens, assisted by HOU 39 Springer.



3-02-IND29 (11:38) IND 17 Pierce pass completed to 22 Heupel for 7 yards (OOB).

Tackled by HOU 39 Springer.

--

1-10-IND36 (11:04) IND 33 Joyner ran inside the right tackle for 0 yards.

Tackled by HOU 44 Pointer.



2-10-IND36 (10:22) IND 22 Heupel ran outside the right tackle for 1 yard.

Tackled by HOU 41 McKenney, assisted by HOU 90 Bowie.



3-09-IND37 (09:35) IND 33 Joyner ran inside the right tackle for 2 yards.

Tackled by HOU 35 Weiss.



4-07-IND39 (09:12) IND 7 Bynum punted 43 yards from the IND39.

HOU 41 McKenney returned the ball 2 yards to the HOU20. Tackled by IND 33 Joyner.



Possession to Houston.



1-10-HOU20 (09:02) HOU 19 Griffin pass fell incomplete, intended for 37 Kinney.

IND 78 Sullivan hurried the quarterback into a bad throw.



2-10-HOU20 (08:54) HOU 19 Griffin pass fell incomplete, intended for 82 Cash.

IND 30 Bownes defended the pass.



3-10-HOU20 (08:45) HOU 19 Griffin pass completed to 89 Nordstrom for 18 yards.

Tackled by IND 51 Lewis.

IND 92 Hyman was injured on the play.

He should be able to remain in the game

--

1-10-HOU38 (08:19) HOU 37 Kinney ran inside the right tackle for 2 yards.

Tackled by IND 51 Lewis, assisted by IND 79 Huntley.



2-08-HOU40 (07:53) HOU 37 Kinney ran inside the right tackle for 1 yard.

Tackled by IND 78 Sullivan, assisted by IND 51 Lewis.



3-07-HOU41 (07:29) HOU 19 Griffin pass completed to 82 Cash for 7 yards.

Tackled by IND 93 Cochrane.

--

1-10-HOU48 (06:45) HOU 37 Kinney ran inside the right guard for 4 yards.

Tackled by IND 38 Hoying.



2-06-IND48 (06:23) HOU 19 Griffin pass fell incomplete, intended for 82 Cash.

IND 53 Covington defended the pass.



3-06-IND48 (06:16) HOU 19 Griffin pass was intercepted by IND 25 Alcott at the IND36.

The interception was returned 64 yards for a touchdown!

Extra point by IND 12 Dennis was good.



Score: Indianapolis 7, Houston 0.

IND 12 Dennis kicked off 75 yards from the IND30. Touchback.



Possession to Houston.



1-10-HOU20 (06:04) HOU 19 Griffin pass fell incomplete, intended for 83 Bermudez.

IND 38 Hoying defended the pass.



2-10-HOU20 (05:56) HOU 19 Griffin pass fell incomplete, intended for 89 Nordstrom.

IND 79 Huntley hurried the quarterback into a bad throw.



3-10-HOU20 (05:43) HOU 19 Griffin pass completed to 85 Monroe for 10 yards.

Tackled by IND 79 Huntley, assisted by IND 42 Singleton.

--

1-10-HOU30 (05:13) HOU 19 Griffin pass completed to 88 Brumbaugh for 12 yards.

Tackled by IND 40 Weathers.

--

1-10-HOU42 (04:45) HOU 37 Kinney ran around the left tackle for 6 yards.

Tackled by IND 51 Lewis, assisted by IND 54 Erickson.

Key block delivered by HOU 64 Jefferson.



2-04-HOU48 (04:05) HOU 37 Kinney ran around the left tackle for 3 yards.

Tackled by IND 42 Singleton.

Penalty: IND - Offsides.

--

1-10-IND47 (03:59) Penalty: IND - Encroachment.



1-05-IND42 (03:53) HOU 83 Bermudez ran a trap outside the right tackle for 1 yard.

Tackled by IND 51 Lewis.



2-04-IND41 (03:17) HOU 40 Nall ran around left end for 2 yards.

Tackled by IND 42 Singleton, assisted by IND 99 Lutes.



3-02-IND39 (02:30) HOU 19 Griffin pass completed to 23 Cannon for 14 yards.

Tackled by IND 53 Covington, assisted by IND 74 Stephens.

--

1-10-IND25 (02:03) HOU 37 Kinney ran around left end for 8 yards.

Tackled by IND 51 Lewis.

Key block delivered by HOU 64 Jefferson.



2-02-IND17 (01:42) Penalty: HOU - False Start.



2-07-IND22 (01:34) HOU 37 Kinney ran around the left tackle for 8 yards.

Tackled by IND 98 Chmielewski.

Key block delivered by HOU 64 Jefferson.

Penalty: HOU - Illegal Motion.



2-12-IND27 (01:25) HOU 37 Kinney ran around left end for 2 yards.

Tackled by IND 99 Lutes.



3-10-IND25 (00:44) HOU 19 Griffin pass completed to 82 Cash for 11 yards.

Tackled by IND 51 Lewis.

--

1-10-IND14 (00:02) HOU 37 Kinney ran around right end for 2 yards.

Tackled by IND 56 Upshaw.



Beginning of Second Quarter.



2-08-IND12 (15:00) HOU 19 Griffin pass completed to 85 Monroe for 8 yards.

Tackled by IND 30 Bownes, assisted by IND 79 Huntley.

--

1-04-IND04 (14:36) HOU 19 Griffin pass was underthrown, intended for 80 Limond.



2-04-IND04 (14:30) HOU 19 Griffin pass fell incomplete, intended for 37 Kinney.

IND 26 Cortez defended the pass.



3-04-IND04 (14:23) HOU 19 Griffin pass fell incomplete, intended for 46 Calmus.



4-04-IND04 (14:17) HOU 11 Cundiff attempted a 21 yard field goal and succeeded.



Score: Houston 3, Indianapolis 7.

HOU 11 Cundiff kicked off 79 yards from the HOU30. Touchback.



Possession to Indianapolis.



1-10-IND20 (14:10) IND 22 Heupel ran a counterplay inside the left tackle for 3 yards.

Tackled by HOU 96 Sanford, assisted by HOU 41 McKenney.



2-07-IND23 (13:35) IND 17 Pierce pass completed to 89 Hanna for 11 yards.

Tackled by HOU 51 Reeves.

--

1-10-IND34 (12:58) IND 17 Pierce pass completed to 33 Joyner for 15 yards.

Tackled by HOU 38 Gaines.

--

1-10-IND49 (12:33) IND 33 Joyner ran around the left tackle for -3 yards.

Tackled by HOU 79 Gonzalez.



2-13-IND46 (12:03) IND 17 Pierce pass completed to 33 Joyner for 6 yards.

Tackled by HOU 56 Fox.



3-07-HOU48 (11:30) IND 33 Joyner ran outside the right tackle for 7 yards.

Tackled by HOU 51 Reeves.

Key block delivered by IND 52 Hutchins.

--

1-10-HOU41 (11:06) IND 22 Heupel ran inside the right guard for 2 yards.

Tackled by HOU 90 Bowie, assisted by HOU 39 Springer.

Ball was fumbled and recovered by IND 77 Cicci for 0 yards to the HOU39.



2-08-HOU39 (10:18) IND 17 Pierce pass completed to 89 Hanna for 25 yards.

Tackled by HOU 44 Pointer.

--

1-10-HOU14 (09:41) IND 33 Joyner ran inside the left tackle for -3 yards.

Tackled by HOU 39 Springer.



2-13-HOU17 (09:11) IND 17 Pierce pass completed to 89 Hanna for 17 yards and a touchdown!

Extra point by IND 12 Dennis was good.



Score: Indianapolis 14, Houston 3.

IND 12 Dennis kicked off 66 yards from the IND30.

HOU 41 McKenney returned the ball 16 yards to the HOU20. Tackled by IND 54 Erickson.



Possession to Houston.



1-10-HOU20 (08:44) HOU 19 Griffin pass fell incomplete, intended for 85 Monroe.

IND 30 Bownes defended the pass.



2-10-HOU20 (08:34) HOU 19 Griffin pass completed to 83 Bermudez for 12 yards.

Tackled by IND 30 Bownes.

--

1-10-HOU32 (08:04) HOU 37 Kinney ran outside the right tackle for 3 yards.

Tackled by IND 78 Sullivan, assisted by IND 79 Huntley.



2-07-HOU35 (07:16) HOU 46 Calmus ran inside the right tackle for 9 yards.

Tackled by IND 54 Erickson, assisted by IND 78 Sullivan.

Key block delivered by HOU 50 Burgess.

--

1-10-HOU44 (06:32) HOU 19 Griffin pass was dropped by 83 Bermudez.



2-10-HOU44 (06:20) HOU 37 Kinney ran around left end for 4 yards.

Tackled by IND 25 Alcott.



3-06-HOU48 (05:42) HOU 19 Griffin pass fell incomplete, intended for 89 Nordstrom.

IND 78 Sullivan hurried the quarterback into a bad throw.



4-06-HOU48 (05:33) HOU 14 Wentworth punted 52 yards from the HOU48. Touchback.



Possession to Indianapolis.



1-10-IND20 (05:26) IND 33 Joyner ran inside the left guard for 8 yards.

Tackled by HOU 41 McKenney.

Key block delivered by IND 77 Cicci.

Penalty: IND - Offensive Holding.



1-20-IND10 (05:19) IND 17 Pierce sacked by HOU 38 Gaines for a loss of 6 yards.

Sack allowed by IND 47 McGee.



2-26-IND04 (04:32) IND 17 Pierce pass completed to 89 Hanna for 4 yards.

Tackled by HOU 39 Springer, assisted by HOU 90 Bowie.



3-22-IND08 (03:49) IND 17 Pierce scrambled for 7 yards.

Tackled by HOU 90 Bowie.



4-15-IND15 (03:17) IND 7 Bynum punted 39 yards from the IND15.

HOU 82 Cash called for a fair catch at the HOU46.



Possession to Houston.



1-10-HOU46 (03:06) HOU 37 Kinney ran inside the right guard for 3 yards.

Tackled by IND 79 Huntley, assisted by IND 51 Lewis.



2-07-HOU49 (02:28) HOU 19 Griffin pass fell incomplete, intended for 85 Monroe.

IND 54 Erickson defended the pass.



3-07-HOU49 (02:17) HOU 19 Griffin pass fell incomplete, intended for 85 Monroe.

IND 99 Lutes hurried the quarterback into a bad throw.



4-07-HOU49 (02:12) HOU 14 Wentworth punted 51 yards from the HOU49. Touchback.



Possession to Indianapolis.



1-10-IND20 (02:07) IND 22 Heupel ran inside the left guard for 11 yards.

Tackled by HOU 56 Fox.

Key block delivered by IND 47 McGee.

Offical time out for the two-minute warning.

--

1-10-IND31 (02:00) IND 17 Pierce pass completed to 81 Benton for 24 yards.

Tackled by HOU 44 Pointer, assisted by HOU 41 McKenney.

--

1-10-HOU45 (01:25) IND 33 Joyner ran inside the left guard for -3 yards.

Tackled by HOU 91 Arnott.



2-13-HOU48 (01:09) IND 17 Pierce pass fell incomplete, intended for 84 Daylo.

HOU 41 McKenney defended the pass.



3-13-HOU48 (01:03) IND 17 Pierce sacked by HOU 44 Pointer for a loss of 7 yards.

Sack allowed by IND 77 Cicci.



4-20-IND45 (00:42) IND 7 Bynum punted 29 yards from the IND45.

The ball was marked out of bounds at the HOU26.



Possession to Houston.



1-10-HOU26 (00:34) HOU 19 Griffin pass fell incomplete, intended for 80 Limond.

IND 38 Hoying defended the pass.



2-10-HOU26 (00:28) HOU 19 Griffin pass fell incomplete, intended for 83 Bermudez.

IND 54 Erickson defended the pass.



3-10-HOU26 (00:18) HOU 19 Griffin pass fell incomplete, intended for 89 Nordstrom.

IND 78 Sullivan hurried the quarterback into a bad throw.



4-10-HOU26 (00:10) HOU 14 Wentworth punted 26 yards from the HOU26.

IND 82 Sawyer called for a fair catch at the IND48.

Penalty: IND - Offsides.



4-05-HOU31 (00:01) HOU 14 Wentworth punted 44 yards from the HOU31.

IND 33 Joyner returned the ball 6 yards to the IND31. Tackled by HOU 87 Reynoso.



Beginning of Third Quarter.



Score: Houston 3, Indianapolis 14.

HOU 11 Cundiff kicked off 55 yards from the HOU30.

IND 33 Joyner returned the ball 24 yards to the IND39. Tackled by HOU 21 Chandler.



Possession to Indianapolis.



1-10-IND39 (14:43) IND 17 Pierce pass was dropped by 47 McGee.



2-10-IND39 (14:35) IND 22 Heupel ran around left end for 61 yards and a touchdown.

Key block delivered by IND 77 Cicci.

Extra point by IND 12 Dennis was good.



Score: Indianapolis 21, Houston 3.

IND 12 Dennis kicked off 79 yards from the IND30. Touchback.



Possession to Houston.



1-10-HOU20 (14:18) HOU 40 Nall ran outside the right tackle for 3 yards.

Tackled by IND 78 Sullivan, assisted by IND 40 Weathers.

Penalty: IND - Unnecessary Roughness.

--

1-10-HOU38 (14:10) HOU 19 Griffin pass completed to 80 Limond for 17 yards.

Tackled by IND 40 Weathers.

--

1-10-IND45 (13:46) HOU 19 Griffin pass completed to 83 Bermudez for 13 yards.

Tackled by IND 38 Hoying.

--

1-10-IND32 (13:12) HOU 37 Kinney ran around left end for 14 yards.

Tackled by IND 51 Lewis, assisted by IND 42 Singleton.

Key block delivered by HOU 64 Jefferson.

--

1-10-IND18 (12:51) HOU 19 Griffin pass was blocked at the line, intended for 85 Monroe.

IND 92 Hyman blocked the pass.



2-10-IND18 (12:46) HOU 37 Kinney ran around the left tackle for 7 yards.

Tackled by IND 54 Erickson.



3-03-IND11 (12:13) HOU 19 Griffin pass completed to 83 Bermudez for 9 yards.

Tackled by IND 54 Erickson, assisted by IND 40 Weathers.

--

1-02-IND02 (11:31) HOU 19 Griffin scrambled for 2 yards and a touchdown.

Extra point by HOU 11 Cundiff was good.



Score: Houston 10, Indianapolis 21.

HOU 11 Cundiff kicked off 75 yards from the HOU30.

IND 82 Sawyer returned the ball 30 yards to the IND25. Tackled by HOU 38 Gaines.



Possession to Indianapolis.



1-10-IND25 (10:48) IND 17 Pierce pass completed to 88 Cattell for 20 yards.

Tackled by HOU 39 Springer.

--

1-10-IND45 (10:13) IND 22 Heupel ran inside the right tackle for 1 yard.

Tackled by HOU 73 Stephens.



2-09-IND46 (09:43) IND 17 Pierce pass fell incomplete, intended for 22 Heupel.

HOU 73 Stephens hurried the quarterback into a bad throw.



3-09-IND46 (09:37) IND 17 Pierce pass was blocked at the line, intended for 89 Hanna.

HOU 90 Bowie blocked the pass.

Penalty: HOU - Defensive Holding.

--

1-10-HOU49 (09:32) IND 17 Pierce pass completed to 80 Sutton for 25 yards.

Tackled by HOU 41 McKenney.

--

1-10-HOU24 (08:43) IND 22 Heupel ran inside the left tackle for 3 yards.

Tackled by HOU 39 Springer, assisted by HOU 74 Hamilton.



2-07-HOU21 (07:56) IND 22 Heupel ran around left end for 4 yards.

Tackled by HOU 94 Young, assisted by HOU 44 Pointer.



3-03-HOU17 (07:24) IND 22 Heupel ran inside the left guard for 4 yards.

Tackled by HOU 41 McKenney, assisted by HOU 39 Springer.

Key block delivered by IND 64 Meek.

--

1-10-HOU13 (06:43) IND 22 Heupel ran inside the left tackle for 8 yards.

Tackled by HOU 53 Lacey.

Key block delivered by IND 65 Ferrell.



2-02-HOU05 (06:07) IND 17 Pierce pass completed to 80 Sutton for 5 yards and a touchdown!

Extra point by IND 12 Dennis was good.



Score: Indianapolis 28, Houston 10.

IND 12 Dennis kicked off 71 yards from the IND30.

HOU 39 Springer returned the ball 12 yards to the HOU11. Tackled by IND 46 Fleming.

Penalty: HOU - Holding on the Kick Return.



Possession to Houston.



1-10-HOU05 (05:35) HOU 37 Kinney ran inside the right guard for 13 yards.

Tackled by IND 92 Hyman, assisted by IND 40 Weathers.

Key block delivered by HOU 46 Calmus.

--

1-10-HOU18 (05:09) HOU 37 Kinney ran around left end for 3 yards.

Tackled by IND 38 Hoying.



2-07-HOU21 (04:28) HOU 37 Kinney ran inside the right guard for 2 yards.

Tackled by IND 51 Lewis.



3-05-HOU23 (03:49) HOU 19 Griffin pass completed to 82 Cash for 7 yards (OOB).

Tackled by IND 99 Lutes.

--

1-10-HOU30 (03:14) HOU 19 Griffin pass completed to 83 Bermudez for 24 yards (OOB).

Tackled by IND 40 Weathers.

--

1-10-IND46 (02:43) HOU 37 Kinney ran around left end for 2 yards.

Tackled by IND 38 Hoying, assisted by IND 74 Stephens.



2-08-IND44 (01:58) HOU 19 Griffin pass fell incomplete, intended for 83 Bermudez.

IND 74 Stephens hurried the quarterback into a bad throw.



3-08-IND44 (01:48) HOU 19 Griffin pass completed to 85 Monroe for 11 yards.

Tackled by IND 26 Cortez.

--

1-10-IND33 (01:27) HOU 19 Griffin pass was intercepted by IND 51 Lewis at the IND22.

The interception was returned 10 yards.

Tackled by HOU 37 Kinney.



Possession to Indianapolis.



1-10-IND32 (01:18) IND 17 Pierce pass fell incomplete, intended for 81 Benton.

HOU 73 Stephens hurried the quarterback into a bad throw.



2-10-IND32 (01:08) IND 17 Pierce pass completed to 89 Hanna for 8 yards.

Tackled by HOU 53 Lacey.



3-02-IND40 (00:21) IND 22 Heupel ran inside the left guard for 1 yard.

Tackled by HOU 79 Gonzalez, assisted by HOU 56 Fox.



Beginning of Fourth Quarter.



4-01-IND41 (15:00) IND 7 Bynum punted 35 yards from the IND41.

The ball was marked out of bounds at the HOU24.



Possession to Houston.



1-10-HOU24 (14:49) HOU 19 Griffin pass completed to 83 Bermudez for 13 yards.

Tackled by IND 54 Erickson.

--

1-10-HOU37 (14:20) HOU 37 Kinney ran around left end for 3 yards.

Tackled by IND 54 Erickson, assisted by IND 42 Singleton.



2-07-HOU40 (13:58) HOU 37 Kinney ran inside the left guard for 24 yards.

Tackled by IND 40 Weathers, assisted by IND 54 Erickson.

Key block delivered by HOU 50 Burgess.

--

1-10-IND36 (13:23) HOU 19 Griffin pass completed to 89 Nordstrom for 8 yards.

Tackled by IND 54 Erickson, assisted by IND 38 Hoying.



2-02-IND28 (12:59) HOU 19 Griffin pass fell incomplete, intended for 89 Nordstrom.

IND 54 Erickson defended the pass.



3-02-IND28 (12:53) HOU 19 Griffin pass completed to 85 Monroe for 7 yards.

Tackled by IND 38 Hoying, assisted by IND 91 Bryant.

--

1-10-IND21 (12:19) HOU 19 Griffin pass fell incomplete, intended for 80 Limond.

IND 54 Erickson hurried the quarterback into a bad throw.



2-10-IND21 (12:08) HOU 40 Nall ran inside the left tackle for 4 yards.

Tackled by IND 51 Lewis, assisted by IND 26 Cortez.



3-06-IND17 (11:36) HOU 19 Griffin pass was dropped by 83 Bermudez.



4-06-IND17 (11:28) HOU 11 Cundiff attempted a 34 yard field goal and succeeded.



Score: Houston 13, Indianapolis 28.

HOU 11 Cundiff kicked off 63 yards from the HOU30.

IND 33 Joyner returned the ball 18 yards to the IND25. Tackled by HOU 35 Weiss.



Possession to Indianapolis.



1-10-IND25 (10:46) IND 22 Heupel ran inside the right guard for 2 yards.

Tackled by HOU 79 Gonzalez.



2-08-IND27 (10:22) IND 17 Pierce pass was intercepted by HOU 56 Fox at the IND32.

The interception was returned 16 yards.

Tackled by IND 22 Heupel.



Possession to Houston.



1-10-IND16 (10:10) HOU 40 Nall ran inside the left guard for 7 yards.

Tackled by IND 78 Sullivan.

Key block delivered by HOU 78 Shepherd.



2-03-IND09 (09:32) HOU 19 Griffin pass completed to 85 Monroe for 9 yards and a touchdown!

Extra point by HOU 11 Cundiff was good.



Score: Houston 20, Indianapolis 28.

HOU 11 Cundiff kicked off 72 yards from the HOU30.

IND 82 Sawyer returned the ball 26 yards to the IND24. Tackled by HOU 38 Gaines.



Possession to Indianapolis.



1-10-IND24 (09:02) IND 22 Heupel ran inside the left tackle for 2 yards.

Tackled by HOU 94 Young.



2-08-IND26 (08:18) IND 17 Pierce pass fell incomplete, intended for 89 Hanna.

HOU 73 Stephens hurried the quarterback into a bad throw.



3-08-IND26 (08:09) IND 17 Pierce ran a draw for 1 yard.

Tackled by HOU 56 Fox.



4-07-IND27 (07:45) IND 7 Bynum punted 45 yards from the IND27.

HOU 41 McKenney returned the ball 8 yards to the HOU36. Tackled by IND 54 Erickson.



Possession to Houston.



1-10-HOU36 (07:36) HOU 37 Kinney ran a counterplay inside the left tackle for 1 yard.

Tackled by IND 53 Covington.



2-09-HOU37 (06:53) HOU 19 Griffin pass completed to 82 Cash for 21 yards (OOB).

Tackled by IND 30 Bownes.

--

1-10-IND42 (06:36) HOU 19 Griffin pass fell incomplete, intended for 83 Bermudez.

IND 38 Hoying defended the pass.



2-10-IND42 (06:23) HOU 19 Griffin pass completed to 80 Limond for 13 yards.

Tackled by IND 30 Bownes.

--

1-10-IND29 (06:06) HOU 40 Nall ran around right end for 6 yards.

Tackled by IND 38 Hoying, assisted by IND 92 Hyman.

Key block delivered by HOU 78 Shepherd.



2-04-IND23 (05:46) HOU 37 Kinney ran inside the right guard for 7 yards.

Tackled by IND 42 Singleton, assisted by IND 74 Stephens.

Key block delivered by HOU 78 Shepherd.

--

1-10-IND16 (05:24) HOU 19 Griffin pass completed to 85 Monroe for 3 yards.

Tackled by IND 26 Cortez.



2-07-IND13 (05:05) HOU 19 Griffin pass fell incomplete, intended for 89 Nordstrom.

IND 25 Alcott defended the pass.



3-07-IND13 (04:56) HOU 19 Griffin pass completed to 82 Cash for 11 yards.

Tackled by IND 42 Singleton.

--

1-02-IND02 (04:38) HOU 19 Griffin pass completed to 89 Nordstrom for 2 yards and a touchdown!

Conversion Attempt: HOU 40 Nall run failed. Tackled by IND 92 Hyman.



Score: Houston 26, Indianapolis 28.

HOU 11 Cundiff kicked off 62 yards from the HOU30.

IND 82 Sawyer returned the ball 23 yards to the IND31. Tackled by HOU 38 Gaines.



Possession to Indianapolis.



1-10-IND31 (04:26) IND 17 Pierce pass completed to 89 Hanna for 13 yards.

Tackled by HOU 30 McVey, assisted by HOU 41 McKenney.

--

1-10-IND44 (03:39) IND 33 Joyner ran inside the right tackle for 1 yard.

Tackled by HOU 73 Stephens, assisted by HOU 79 Gonzalez.



2-09-IND45 (02:54) IND 33 Joyner ran inside the left guard for 2 yards.

Tackled by HOU 51 Reeves, assisted by HOU 79 Gonzalez.

HOU called time out.



3-07-IND47 (02:45) IND 17 Pierce pass completed to 89 Hanna for 7 yards.

Tackled by HOU 90 Bowie.

HOU called time out.

--

1-10-HOU46 (02:37) IND 22 Heupel ran around the left tackle for 3 yards.

Tackled by HOU 38 Gaines, assisted by HOU 79 Gonzalez.

HOU called time out.



2-07-HOU43 (02:25) Penalty: IND - False Start.



2-12-HOU48 (02:25) IND 33 Joyner ran inside the right tackle for 9 yards.

Tackled by HOU 74 Hamilton.

Key block delivered by IND 52 Hutchins.

Offical time out for the two-minute warning.



3-03-HOU39 (02:00) IND 22 Heupel ran inside the right tackle for 3 yards.

Tackled by HOU 90 Bowie, assisted by HOU 44 Pointer.

Key block delivered by IND 63 Weed.

--

1-10-HOU36 (01:14) IND 22 Heupel ran inside the left guard for 8 yards.

Tackled by HOU 79 Gonzalez, assisted by HOU 74 Hamilton.

Key block delivered by IND 47 McGee.



2-02-HOU28 (00:30) IND 17 Pierce dropped to one knee for -2 yards.

.



Game MVP: IND 17 Omar Pierce


WSUCougar 11-18-2004 02:27 PM

Great stuff, Jim, thank you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabotai
But I must confess, I'm kind of bummed. I assumed like everyone else that a new game was on the way. Now we go back to nothing until mid-2005. Kind of a let down. Don't get me wrong, the update to TCY and FOF are fantastic, and in the hands of other developers (looking your way, EA), might have been repackaged and released as another version. Very very grateful that Jim gave this out as a free update.

I'd be fibbing if I didn't admit the same thing. I really had my heart set on TCY2. Ah, well.

Icy 11-18-2004 02:29 PM

30) Tweak AI for late fourth-quarter clock management. Some day, maybe in 2010, we'll get this down perfectly.

WOOOW we will get FOF2k10 in the future!!!!!

Thanks for the free update Jim, this proves your a honest guy providing this two free updates for TCY and FOF.

Let's wait for next game, but i admit i was really hopping a new TCY or FOF...

JeeberD 11-18-2004 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cap Ologist
3-06-IND48 (06:16) HOU 19 Griffin pass was intercepted by IND 25 Alcott at the IND36.

The interception was returned 64 yards for a touchdown!

Extra point by IND 12 Dennis was good.


So much for improvement #18... ;)

WSUCougar 11-18-2004 02:34 PM

I'm not comprehending the game log change. Can someone explain?

Celeval 11-18-2004 02:36 PM

Yeah... I don't see any difference in the posted log. Did it get checked 'on'?

Celeval 11-18-2004 02:36 PM

Side note: I knew I should have brought my laptop with me to training today. Damnit.

samifan24 11-18-2004 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cubboyroy1826
Okay real dumb question. I downloaded the file on my new laptop and the player file is not the players real names. I am pretty sure that is correct but want to verify it. The rookies and all players numbers match up with their real counterparts so i am sure someone will be creating a player file with the real names. Can someone just confirm this, thanks.


Yeah, take a look at Ben's sticky on the main discussion page. Primelord has this covered.

samifan24 11-18-2004 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbmagic
i will download and buy the game when i get home from work


i not clear on what 2004 player file is?

is that real players or fictional?


The player file with the update features the real players, but with fake names. Download Primelord's updated file to get the real names.

Woo 900 posts!

tanglewood 11-18-2004 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG
24) Several changes in AI for determining the value of a salary offer, including more value given to bonus money and less to money offered in future years. The result of this also essentially ends the annoying habit of players to refuse any offer that doesn't exactly match their request.

27) Tie available bonus money for salary and staff offers to the team's financial performance for the year.

31) Add field goal percentage to calculated statistics on career, single-player and yearly statistics screens. Add a significant digit for rushing averages.

35) Add a "primer", allowing you to create an entirely fictional universe when beginning career with allocation draft or full draft. Pretty neat, huh?

38) Create the concept of positional groups, used when calculating a legal roster, both for single-player and multi-player games. Now, for instance, you need to have eight offensive linemen active, but only a minimum of one center, two tackles and two guards. The same applies for defensive linemen, linebackers, your secondary and your offensive backfield.

47) Allow third quarterback to remain in depth chart when injured and unable to play. This does not mean he will appear in a game.


Oh yes. :cool:

Thanks a bunch Jim, you rule!

Daimyo 11-18-2004 02:44 PM

Hmmm... so what exactly changed in the game log? Looks identical to the old ones to me.

Pyser 11-18-2004 02:45 PM

Quote:

27) Tie available bonus money for salary and staff offers to the team's financial performance for the year.

I just realized: financials actually mean something now! :eek:

Cap Ologist 11-18-2004 02:50 PM

yeah, but my qb is super slow, so at least he wasn't able to tackle him.

vex 11-18-2004 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WSUCougar
Great stuff, Jim, thank you.


I'd be fibbing if I didn't admit the same thing. I really had my heart set on TCY2. Ah, well.



Same here.

DeToxRox 11-18-2004 03:09 PM

i love that price. i finally bought fof 2004. thanks jim.

Karim 11-18-2004 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyser
I just realized: financials actually mean something now! :eek:


That is awesome - I'm no longer guaranteed at getting the best staff.

And a big thumbs up for the allocation draft.

Great stuff, Jim.

BigJohn&TheLions 11-18-2004 03:11 PM

This is great!!! Can't wait to get home tonight and download it!

(Am I the only person who saw this and double checked the spelling of "Solecismic?")

Bonegavel 11-18-2004 03:17 PM

Wow! Muchas kudos Jim.

Good Will Gindin. Wicked bad!

MizzouRah 11-18-2004 03:26 PM

Glad I bought NCAA football 2004 for Xbox today. :)

An upgraded FOF for FREE?? Absolutely awesome!!


Thanks

Todd

scooter 11-18-2004 03:45 PM

Thanks Jim. And a Happy Holidays to you and your family too!

cwilloughby 11-18-2004 03:49 PM

Thanks for the update! I'm excited to play with it.

Jim, you are what's right within the game industry.

Thanks again for everything.

yabanci 11-18-2004 04:04 PM

Quote:

39) Add the concept of an extended game log, which stores bits of additional information in the game log displayed upon request.

I was REALLY hoping that this mean we would get to see formations and blitzes in the game logs, so we would actually know what was going on in multiplayer games. The game log posted, however, looks exactly the same to me too.

This is a great patch, no doubt.

korme 11-18-2004 04:14 PM

hell yea dude Jim's a pimp I was still playing 2004 as recently as last week, now I'm itching to get home and play some more.

primelord 11-18-2004 04:24 PM

Here is a copy of a game log with the expanded information. I have bolded the expanded info.

Code:

  Game Log: Springfield at Boston.
   
    Attendance: 65,900 (69,300).
   
    Upper Deck: 19,700 (21,000).
    End Zone: 14,500 (15,200).
    Mezzanine: 8,400 (8,800).
    Sidelines: 12,800 (13,400).
    Club Seats: 7,900 (8,200).
    Luxury Boxes: 2,600 (2,700).
   
    Weather: 54 degrees, fair.
   
    Boston won the toss and elected to receive.
   
    Beginning of First Quarter.
   
    SPR 10 Wolfe kicked off 58 yards from the SPR30.
    BOS 81 Cascini returned the ball 18 yards to the BOS30. Tackled by SPR 33 Castillo.
   
    Possession to Boston.
   
    1-10-BOS30 (14:35)  BOS 16 Fletcher pass completed to 85 Scovill for 10 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 39 Sellers.
    --
    1-10-BOS40 (13:56)  BOS 29 Moniz ran inside the left tackle for 3 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 78 Dole.
   
    2-07-BOS43 (13:18)  BOS 29 Moniz ran around left end for 9 yards (OOB).
    Tackled by SPR 94 Gordon, assisted by SPR 54 Atkins.
    Key block delivered by BOS 60 Wilcox.
    --
    1-10-SPR48 (12:44)  BOS 37 Grant ran around right end for 11 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 50 Robinson.
    Key block delivered by BOS 62 Norton.
    --
    1-10-SPR37 (12:19)  BOS 16 Fletcher pass fell incomplete, intended for 85 Scovill.
    SPR 99 Hopper defended the pass.
   
    2-10-SPR37 (12:11)  BOS 46 Richardson ran inside the right tackle for 4 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 24 Pintsak.
   
    3-06-SPR33 (11:36)  BOS 16 Fletcher pass fell incomplete, intended for 84 Farley.
    SPR 50 Robinson defended the pass.
    The quarterback threw away from the double coverage.
   
    4-06-SPR33 (11:28)  BOS 9 Rasheed attempted a 50 yard field goal and succeeded.
   
    Score: Boston 3, Springfield 0.
    BOS 9 Rasheed kicked off 65 yards from the BOS30.
    SPR 80 Merritt returned the ball 20 yards to the SPR25. Tackled by BOS 82 Howard.
   
    Possession to Springfield.
   
    1-10-SPR25 (10:56)  SPR 30 Palmer ran inside the right guard for 4 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 34 Rasmussen.
   
    2-06-SPR29 (10:26)  SPR 37 Delatorre ran inside the left tackle for 4 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 94 Kemp.
   
    3-02-SPR33 (09:48)  SPR 6 Walton pass completed to 20 Herndon for 5 yards (OOB).
    Tackled by BOS 96 Southard.
    --
    1-10-SPR38 (09:05)  SPR 43 Watson ran around left end for 8 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 30 Flynn, assisted by BOS 55 McClain.
    Key block delivered by SPR 59 Ballard.
   
    2-02-SPR46 (08:37)  SPR 43 Watson ran inside the left tackle for 19 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 95 Replogle, assisted by BOS 58 Lockett.
    Key block delivered by SPR 65 Apold.
    --
    1-10-BOS35 (07:57)  SPR 6 Walton kept the ball, running outside the right tackle for 0 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 30 Flynn.
   
    2-10-BOS35 (07:09)  SPR 6 Walton pass fell incomplete, intended for 88 Burton.
    BOS 96 Southard defended the pass.
   
    3-10-BOS35 (07:04)  SPR 6 Walton pass was underthrown, intended for 88 Burton.
    The quarterback threw into double coverage.
   
    4-10-BOS35 (06:58)  SPR 4 Lucas punted 27 yards from the BOS35.
    BOS 83 Hoover called for a fair catch at the BOS08.
   
    Possession to Boston.
   
    1-10-BOS08 (06:47)  BOS 16 Fletcher pass completed to 47 Crowe for 6 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 40 Piper.
    Crowe gained 7 yards after the catch.
   
    2-04-BOS14 (06:19)  BOS 16 Fletcher ran a draw for 5 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 50 Robinson.
    --
    1-10-BOS19 (05:33)  BOS 16 Fletcher pass fell incomplete, intended for 83 Hoover.
    SPR 78 Dole hurried the quarterback into a bad throw.
   
    2-10-BOS19 (05:23)  BOS 37 Grant ran around right end for 6 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 33 Castillo, assisted by SPR 78 Dole.
   
    3-04-BOS25 (04:42)  BOS 16 Fletcher pass completed to 83 Hoover for 6 yards (OOB).
    Tackled by SPR 50 Robinson, assisted by SPR 33 Castillo.
    The quarterback threw away from the double coverage.
    Penalty: SPR - Offsides. Penalty was declined.
    --
    1-10-BOS31 (04:35)  BOS 16 Fletcher pass completed to 85 Scovill for 16 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 51 Greene, assisted by SPR 40 Piper.
    --
    1-10-BOS47 (03:57)  BOS 16 Fletcher pass fell incomplete, intended for 81 Cascini.
    SPR 51 Greene defended the pass.
   
    2-10-BOS47 (03:50)  BOS 16 Fletcher pass completed to 81 Cascini for 11 yards (OOB).
    Tackled by SPR 99 Hopper, assisted by SPR 45 Houzah.
    BOS 85 Scovill was injured on the play.
    --
    1-10-SPR42 (03:16)  BOS 46 Richardson ran inside the right tackle for 2 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 78 Dole, assisted by SPR 50 Robinson.
   
    2-08-SPR40 (02:41)  BOS 37 Grant ran outside the right tackle for 7 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 51 Greene, assisted by SPR 78 Dole.
   
    3-01-SPR33 (02:11)  BOS 46 Richardson ran inside the right tackle for 5 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 50 Robinson, assisted by SPR 90 Frierson.
    Key block delivered by BOS 62 Norton.
    --
    1-10-SPR28 (01:49)  BOS 29 Moniz ran inside the right tackle for 6 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 51 Greene.
    Key block delivered by BOS 60 Wilcox.
   
    2-04-SPR22 (01:20)  BOS 37 Grant ran inside the right tackle for 9 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 28 Strong.
    Key block delivered by BOS 69 Woodling.
    --
    1-10-SPR13 (00:58)  BOS 37 Grant ran inside the left guard for 1 yard.
    Tackled by SPR 24 Pintsak.
   
    2-09-SPR12 (00:17)  BOS 16 Fletcher pass was dropped by 82 Howard.
    The quarterback threw away from the double coverage.
   
    3-09-SPR12 (00:08)  BOS 16 Fletcher pass was overthrown, intended for 81 Cascini.
   
    4-09-SPR12 (00:02)  BOS 9 Rasheed attempted a 29 yard field goal and succeeded.
   
    Beginning of Second Quarter.
   
    Score: Boston 6, Springfield 0.
    BOS 9 Rasheed kicked off 58 yards from the BOS30.
    SPR 29 Mason returned the ball 26 yards to the SPR38. Tackled by BOS 26 Etten.
   
    Possession to Springfield.
   
    1-10-SPR38 (14:24)  SPR 30 Palmer ran around left end for 4 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 58 Lockett.
   
    2-06-SPR42 (13:45)  SPR 6 Walton pass fell incomplete, intended for 37 Delatorre.
    BOS 34 Rasmussen defended the pass.
   
    3-06-SPR42 (13:32)  SPR 6 Walton pass fell incomplete, intended for 88 Burton.
    BOS 72 Drieberg hurried the quarterback into a bad throw.
   
    4-06-SPR42 (13:23)  SPR 4 Lucas punted 46 yards from the SPR42.
    BOS 46 Richardson called for a fair catch at the BOS12.
   
    Possession to Boston.
   
    1-10-BOS12 (13:12)  BOS 46 Richardson ran inside the left tackle for 3 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 54 Atkins, assisted by SPR 45 Houzah.
   
    2-07-BOS15 (12:39)  BOS 16 Fletcher pass fell incomplete, intended for 87 Morrison.
    SPR 78 Dole hurried the quarterback into a bad throw.
    Penalty: BOS - Offensive Holding.
   
    2-14-BOS08 (12:32)  BOS 16 Fletcher pass fell incomplete, intended for 29 Moniz.
    SPR 94 Gordon defended the pass.
   
    3-14-BOS08 (12:24)  BOS 16 Fletcher pass completed to 84 Farley for 15 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 50 Robinson.
    Penalty: BOS - Unsportsmanlike Conduct.
    --
    1-10-BOS12 (12:19)  BOS 13 Malone pass completed to 84 Farley for 10 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 93 Coburn, assisted by SPR 45 Houzah.
    --
    1-10-BOS22 (11:31)  BOS 46 Richardson ran outside the right tackle for 4 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 94 Gordon.
   
    2-06-BOS26 (10:47)  BOS 29 Moniz ran inside the left tackle for 19 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 90 Frierson.
    Key block delivered by BOS 50 Leroy.
    --
    1-10-BOS45 (09:59)  BOS 13 Malone pass completed to 83 Hoover for 23 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 24 Pintsak.
    Hoover gained 2 yards after the catch.
    Penalty: SPR - Defensive Holding. Penalty was declined.
    SPR 22 Shin was injured on the play.
    --
    1-10-SPR32 (09:47)  BOS 46 Richardson ran around left end for 7 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 33 Castillo.
    Key block delivered by BOS 77 Cisneros.
   
    2-03-SPR25 (09:24)  BOS 46 Richardson ran a counterplay inside the left tackle for 0 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 94 Gordon, assisted by SPR 54 Atkins.
   
    3-03-SPR25 (08:42)  BOS 13 Malone pass was underthrown, intended for 87 Morrison.
    The quarterback threw away from the double coverage.
   
    4-03-SPR25 (08:35)  BOS 9 Rasheed attempted a 42 yard field goal and succeeded.
   
    Score: Boston 9, Springfield 0.
    BOS 9 Rasheed kicked off 65 yards from the BOS30.
    SPR 29 Mason returned the ball 27 yards to the SPR32. Tackled by BOS 87 Morrison.
    Penalty: SPR - Holding on the Kick Return.
   
    Possession to Springfield.
   
    1-10-SPR16 (08:05)  SPR 6 Walton pass was dropped by 88 Burton.
   
    2-10-SPR16 (07:56)  SPR 6 Walton pass fell incomplete, intended for 89 Selmon.
    BOS 78 Fortner hurried the quarterback into a bad throw.
   
    3-10-SPR16 (07:48)  SPR 6 Walton pass completed to 88 Burton for 12 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 30 Flynn, assisted by BOS 24 Shannon.
    Burton gained 1 yard after the catch.
    --
    1-10-SPR28 (07:13)  SPR 6 Walton pass was overthrown, intended for 89 Selmon.
   
    2-10-SPR28 (07:07)  SPR 30 Palmer ran inside the right tackle for 3 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 30 Flynn, assisted by BOS 55 McClain.
   
    3-07-SPR31 (06:44)  SPR 20 Herndon ran around right end for 2 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 24 Shannon.
   
    4-05-SPR33 (06:05)  SPR 4 Lucas punted 36 yards from the SPR33.
    BOS 46 Richardson called for a fair catch at the BOS31.
   
    Possession to Boston.
   
    1-10-BOS31 (05:54)  BOS 37 Grant ran inside the left tackle for 4 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 45 Houzah.
   
    2-06-BOS35 (05:19)  BOS 13 Malone pass completed to 82 Howard for 2 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 50 Robinson.
    The receiver risked taking quite a hit in order to convert the play.
   
    3-04-BOS37 (04:31)  BOS 13 Malone pass completed to 88 Ward for 5 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 50 Robinson.
    Ward gained 4 yards after the catch.
    The quarterback threw away from the double coverage.

    --
    1-10-BOS42 (03:47)  BOS 37 Grant ran around left end for 6 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 29 Mason.
    Key block delivered by BOS 61 Olpin.
   
    2-04-BOS48 (03:02)  BOS 29 Moniz ran inside the right guard for 2 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 70 Terry.
   
    3-02-BOS50 (02:15)  BOS 46 Richardson ran inside the left guard for 8 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 98 Chapman.
    Key block delivered by BOS 82 Howard.
    Offical time out for the two-minute warning.
    --
    1-10-SPR42 (02:00)  BOS 13 Malone pass completed to 84 Farley for 16 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 50 Robinson.
    The receiver made his way through serious traffic for that catch.
    Farley gained 4 yards after the catch.

    --
    1-10-SPR26 (01:19)  BOS 37 Grant ran inside the left guard for 4 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 79 Burton.
   
    2-06-SPR22 (01:03)  BOS 13 Malone sacked by SPR 78 Dole for a loss of 5 yards.
    Sack allowed by BOS 62 Norton.
    Penalty: BOS - Offensive Holding. Penalty was declined.
   
    3-11-SPR27 (00:56)  BOS 46 Richardson ran around left end for 10 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 90 Frierson.
    Key block delivered by BOS 61 Olpin.
    BOS called time out.
   
    4-01-SPR17 (00:48)  BOS 9 Rasheed attempted a 34 yard field goal and succeeded.
   
    Score: Boston 12, Springfield 0.
    BOS 9 Rasheed kicked off 66 yards from the BOS30.
    SPR 30 Palmer returned the ball 34 yards to the SPR38. Tackled by BOS 82 Howard.
   
    Possession to Springfield.
   
    1-10-SPR38 (00:31)  SPR 6 Walton sacked by BOS 72 Drieberg for a loss of 6 yards.
    Sack allowed by SPR 65 Apold.
    SPR called time out.
   
    2-16-SPR32 (00:22)  SPR 6 Walton scrambled for 7 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 30 Flynn, assisted by BOS 24 Shannon.
    BOS called time out.
   
    3-09-SPR39 (00:12)  SPR 6 Walton pass completed to 89 Selmon for 15 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 58 Lockett.
    SPR called time out.
    --
    1-10-BOS46 (00:05)  SPR 6 Walton pass was blocked at the line, intended for 80 Merritt.
    BOS 70 Dowdy blocked the pass.
   
    Beginning of Third Quarter.
   
    Score: Boston 12, Springfield 0.
    BOS 9 Rasheed kicked off 60 yards from the BOS30.
    SPR 30 Palmer returned the ball 30 yards to the SPR40. Tackled by BOS 82 Howard.
   
    Possession to Springfield.
   
    1-10-SPR40 (14:38)  SPR 14 Newsome pass completed to 20 Herndon for 7 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 58 Lockett.
    Herndon gained 6 yards after the catch.
   
    2-03-SPR47 (13:49)  SPR 14 Newsome pass completed to 84 Jannot for 12 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 94 Kemp.
    The receiver made his way through serious traffic for that catch.
    --
    1-10-BOS41 (13:17)  SPR 14 Newsome pass fell incomplete, intended for 20 Herndon.
    BOS 28 Lombardo defended the pass.
   
    2-10-BOS41 (13:08)  SPR 30 Palmer ran a counterplay inside the right tackle for 2 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 95 Replogle, assisted by BOS 58 Lockett.
    Penalty: SPR - Intentional Face Mask.
   
    3-23-SPR46 (13:00)  SPR 14 Newsome pass completed to 20 Herndon for 3 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 24 Shannon.
    Herndon gained 2 yards after the catch.
    The quarterback threw away from the double coverage.

   
    4-20-SPR49 (12:34)  SPR 4 Lucas punted 44 yards from the SPR49.
    The ball was downed at the BOS07.
   
    Possession to Boston.
   
    1-10-BOS07 (12:23)  BOS 13 Malone pass was overthrown, intended for 84 Farley.
    The quarterback threw away from the double coverage.
   
    2-10-BOS07 (12:18)  BOS 37 Grant ran inside the right tackle for 13 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 95 Cavil.
    Key block delivered by BOS 50 Leroy.
    --
    1-10-BOS20 (11:34)  BOS 13 Malone pass fell incomplete, intended for 82 Howard.
    SPR 96 Bullock defended the pass.
   
    2-10-BOS20 (11:25)  BOS 46 Richardson ran around left end for 7 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 40 Piper.
    Penalty: BOS - Illegal Shift. Penalty was declined.
   
    3-03-BOS27 (11:19)  BOS 13 Malone sacked by SPR 79 Burton for a loss of 6 yards.
    Sack allowed by BOS 69 Woodling.
   
    4-09-BOS21 (10:53)  BOS 5 Briggs punted 51 yards from the BOS21.
    SPR 29 Mason returned the ball 5 yards to the SPR33. Tackled by BOS 47 Crowe.
   
    Possession to Springfield.
   
    1-10-SPR33 (10:46)  SPR 14 Newsome pass completed to 88 Burton for 16 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 58 Lockett, assisted by BOS 99 Cochrane.
    The receiver caught that ball right in the midst of the defense.
    --
    1-10-SPR49 (10:17)  SPR 43 Watson ran inside the right guard for 2 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 94 Kemp, assisted by BOS 96 Southard.
   
    2-08-BOS49 (09:47)  SPR 30 Palmer ran around left end for 3 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 30 Flynn, assisted by BOS 78 Fortner.
    Penalty: SPR - Unsportsmanlike Conduct.
   
    3-20-SPR39 (09:39)  SPR 14 Newsome pass completed to 88 Burton for 16 yards (OOB).
    Tackled by BOS 28 Lombardo.
   
    4-04-BOS45 (09:12)  SPR 4 Lucas punted 28 yards from the BOS45.
    BOS 48 Gale called for a fair catch at the BOS17.
   
    Possession to Boston.
   
    1-10-BOS17 (09:04)  BOS 13 Malone pass fell incomplete, intended for 87 Morrison.
    SPR 90 Frierson hurried the quarterback into a bad throw.
    The quarterback threw away from the double coverage.
   
    2-10-BOS17 (08:50)  BOS 13 Malone pass fell incomplete, intended for 81 Cascini.
    SPR 94 Gordon hurried the quarterback into a bad throw.
    The quarterback threw into double coverage.
   
    3-10-BOS17 (08:37)  BOS 13 Malone pass completed to 84 Farley for 1 yard.
    Tackled by SPR 99 Hopper.
    The receiver made his way through serious traffic for that catch.
    The quarterback threw away from the double coverage.

   
    4-09-BOS18 (07:50)  BOS 5 Briggs punted 31 yards from the BOS18.
    SPR 28 Strong called for a fair catch at the BOS49.
   
    Possession to Springfield.
   
    1-10-BOS49 (07:43)  SPR 14 Newsome scrambled for 4 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 26 Etten, assisted by BOS 27 Fisk.
   
    2-06-BOS45 (07:10)  SPR 43 Watson ran around the left tackle for 2 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 99 Cochrane, assisted by BOS 51 Garcia.
   
    3-04-BOS43 (06:44)  SPR 14 Newsome pass fell incomplete, intended for 89 Selmon.
    BOS 78 Fortner defended the pass.
   
    4-04-BOS43 (06:39)  SPR 4 Lucas punted 43 yards from the BOS43. Touchback.
   
    Possession to Boston.
   
    1-10-BOS20 (06:32)  BOS 13 Malone sacked by SPR 70 Terry for a loss of 6 yards.
    Sack allowed by BOS 62 Norton.
   
    2-16-BOS14 (05:46)  Penalty: BOS - False Start.
   
    2-21-BOS09 (05:40)  BOS 13 Malone pass completed to 47 Crowe for 2 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 79 Burton.
    Crowe gained 1 yard after the catch.
   
    3-19-BOS11 (05:09)  BOS 13 Malone pass completed to 47 Crowe for 3 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 24 Pintsak.
    Crowe gained 2 yards after the catch.
    The quarterback threw away from the double coverage.

    Penalty: BOS - Unsportsmanlike Conduct. BOS 50 Leroy was ejected on the play for punching an opponent.
    SPR 39 Sellers was injured on the play.
    He should be able to remain in the game
   
    4-23-BOS07 (05:03)  BOS 5 Briggs punted 44 yards from the BOS07.
    SPR 80 Merritt called for a fair catch at the SPR49.
   
    Possession to Springfield.
   
    1-10-SPR49 (04:56)  SPR 37 Delatorre ran around left end for 3 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 28 Lombardo, assisted by BOS 99 Cochrane.
   
    2-07-BOS48 (04:31)  SPR 43 Watson ran outside the right tackle for 18 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 96 Southard, assisted by BOS 72 Drieberg.
    Key block delivered by SPR 66 Corbett.
    --
    1-10-BOS30 (03:43)  SPR 14 Newsome pass completed to 80 Merritt for 8 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 24 Shannon.
    Merritt gained 2 yards after the catch.
   
    2-02-BOS22 (02:54)  SPR 30 Palmer ran a trap outside the left tackle for 2 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 99 Cochrane.
    Key block delivered by SPR 74 Thornton.
    --
    1-10-BOS20 (02:16)  SPR 14 Newsome pass fell incomplete, intended for 82 Glenn.
    BOS 94 Kemp hurried the quarterback into a bad throw.
   
    2-10-BOS20 (02:10)  SPR 43 Watson ran inside the right guard for 1 yard.
    Tackled by BOS 58 Lockett, assisted by BOS 72 Drieberg.
   
    3-09-BOS19 (01:43)  SPR 14 Newsome pass completed to 88 Burton for 11 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 96 Southard.
    The quarterback threw away from the double coverage.
    --
    1-08-BOS08 (00:54)  SPR 14 Newsome pass fell incomplete, intended for 80 Merritt.
    BOS 70 Dowdy hurried the quarterback into a bad throw.
   
    2-08-BOS08 (00:47)  SPR 43 Watson ran around the left tackle for 2 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 96 Southard.
   
    3-06-BOS06 (00:20)  SPR 14 Newsome pass fell incomplete, intended for 80 Merritt.
    BOS 26 Etten hurried the quarterback into a bad throw.
   
    4-06-BOS06 (00:14)  SPR 10 Wolfe attempted a 23 yard field goal and succeeded.
   
    Score: Springfield 3, Boston 12.
    SPR 10 Wolfe kicked off 70 yards from the SPR30.
    BOS 46 Richardson returned the ball 14 yards to the BOS14. Tackled by SPR 45 Houzah.
   
    Beginning of Fourth Quarter.
   
    Possession to Boston.
   
    1-10-BOS14 (15:00)  BOS 37 Grant ran inside the right tackle for 2 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 51 Greene, assisted by SPR 54 Atkins.
    Penalty: BOS - Offensive Holding.
   
    1-17-BOS07 (14:54)  BOS 13 Malone pass was underthrown, intended for 83 Hoover.
   
    2-17-BOS07 (14:44)  BOS 13 Malone pass completed to 81 Cascini for 38 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 40 Piper.
    Cascini gained 14 yards after the catch.
    The quarterback threw away from the double coverage.

    --
    1-10-BOS45 (14:01)  Penalty: BOS - False Start.
   
    1-15-BOS40 (13:53)  BOS 13 Malone pass was overthrown, intended for 83 Hoover.
    The quarterback threw into double coverage.
   
    2-15-BOS40 (13:44)  BOS 37 Grant ran outside the right tackle for 3 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 78 Dole.
   
    3-12-BOS43 (12:59)  BOS 37 Grant ran inside the left tackle for 7 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 95 Cavil.
   
    4-05-BOS50 (12:11)  BOS 5 Briggs punted 44 yards from the BOS50.
    The ball was marked out of bounds at the SPR06.
   
    Possession to Springfield.
   
    1-10-SPR06 (12:03)  SPR 43 Watson ran outside the right tackle for 2 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 24 Shannon, assisted by BOS 95 Replogle.
   
    2-08-SPR08 (11:33)  SPR 14 Newsome pass completed to 89 Selmon for 20 yards (OOB).
    Tackled by BOS 96 Southard, assisted by BOS 55 McClain.
    The receiver risked taking quite a hit in order to convert the play.
    Selmon gained 6 yards after the catch.

    --
    1-10-SPR28 (11:07)  SPR 43 Watson ran inside the right tackle for 2 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 96 Southard, assisted by BOS 94 Kemp.
   
    2-08-SPR30 (10:34)  SPR 14 Newsome ran a draw for 5 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 34 Rasmussen.
   
    3-03-SPR35 (09:55)  SPR 14 Newsome pass completed to 20 Herndon for 6 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 35 Vaughn, assisted by BOS 58 Lockett.
    The receiver ran his route right over the middle of the field.
    The quarterback threw away from the double coverage.

    --
    1-10-SPR41 (09:19)  SPR 14 Newsome pass completed to 88 Burton for 9 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 27 Fisk, assisted by BOS 30 Flynn.
    The quarterback threw away from the double coverage.
   
    2-01-BOS50 (08:58)  SPR 37 Delatorre ran around right end for 6 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 96 Southard.
    Key block delivered by SPR 69 Leaf.
    --
    1-10-BOS44 (08:24)  SPR 14 Newsome pass was dropped by 80 Merritt.
   
    2-10-BOS44 (08:12)  SPR 14 Newsome pass completed to 80 Merritt for 14 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 34 Rasmussen.
    The receiver made his way through serious traffic for that catch.
    --
    1-10-BOS30 (07:27)  SPR 14 Newsome pass was overthrown, intended for 88 Burton.
    The quarterback threw away from the double coverage.
   
    2-10-BOS30 (07:18)  SPR 14 Newsome pass fell incomplete, intended for 80 Merritt.
    BOS 26 Etten defended the pass.
    The quarterback threw away from the double coverage.
   
    3-10-BOS30 (07:04)  SPR 14 Newsome pass completed to 84 Jannot for 0 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 72 Drieberg.
    The quarterback threw away from the double coverage.
   
    4-10-BOS30 (06:23)  SPR 10 Wolfe attempted a 47 yard field goal and missed wide to the left.
   
    Possession to Boston.
   
    1-10-BOS37 (06:16)  BOS 37 Grant ran around the left tackle for 5 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 40 Piper, assisted by SPR 54 Atkins.
    Key block delivered by BOS 76 Brockermeyer.
   
    2-05-BOS42 (05:31)  BOS 37 Grant ran inside the right tackle for 2 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 45 Houzah, assisted by SPR 33 Castillo.
   
    3-03-BOS44 (04:45)  BOS 37 Grant ran inside the right tackle for 5 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 39 Sellers, assisted by SPR 70 Terry.
    Key block delivered by BOS 62 Norton.
    --
    1-10-BOS49 (03:59)  BOS 37 Grant ran inside the left guard for 2 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 98 Chapman, assisted by SPR 33 Castillo.
   
    2-08-SPR49 (03:11)  BOS 37 Grant ran inside the right tackle for 0 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 96 Bullock, assisted by SPR 99 Hopper.
   
    3-08-SPR49 (02:26)  BOS 37 Grant ran inside the right tackle for 5 yards.
    Tackled by SPR 94 Gordon.
    SPR called time out.
   
    4-03-SPR44 (02:14)  BOS 5 Briggs punted 42 yards from the SPR44.
    The ball was marked out of bounds at the SPR02.
   
    Possession to Springfield.
   
    1-10-SPR02 (02:07)  SPR 43 Watson ran inside the left tackle for 1 yard.
    Tackled by BOS 72 Drieberg.
    Offical time out for the two-minute warning.
   
    2-09-SPR03 (02:00)  SPR 37 Delatorre ran around left end for 5 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 48 Gale.
   
    3-04-SPR08 (01:41)  SPR 14 Newsome pass completed to 88 Burton for 11 yards (OOB).
    Tackled by BOS 90 Duncan, assisted by BOS 99 Cochrane.
    The quarterback threw away from the double coverage.
    --
    1-10-SPR19 (01:31)  SPR 14 Newsome pass completed to 85 Meyer for 9 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 35 Vaughn, assisted by BOS 48 Gale.
    The receiver ran his route right over the middle of the field.
   
    2-01-SPR28 (01:10)  SPR 14 Newsome pass completed to 80 Merritt for 14 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 48 Gale.
    The receiver caught that ball right in the midst of the defense.
    SPR called time out.
    --
    1-10-SPR42 (01:03)  SPR 14 Newsome pass completed to 80 Merritt for 30 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 55 McClain.
    The receiver made his way through serious traffic for that catch.
    SPR called time out.
    --
    1-10-BOS28 (00:53)  SPR 14 Newsome pass fell incomplete, intended for 80 Merritt.
    BOS 34 Rasmussen defended the pass.
    The quarterback threw into double coverage.
   
    2-10-BOS28 (00:48)  SPR 14 Newsome pass was blocked at the line, intended for 88 Burton.
    BOS 72 Drieberg blocked the pass.
   
    3-10-BOS28 (00:37)  SPR 14 Newsome pass fell incomplete, intended for 88 Burton.
    BOS 34 Rasmussen defended the pass.
    The quarterback threw away from the double coverage.
   
    4-10-BOS28 (00:27)  SPR 14 Newsome pass completed to 37 Delatorre for 9 yards.
    Tackled by BOS 27 Fisk.
    The receiver risked taking quite a hit in order to convert the play.
    The ball goes over on downs.
   
    Possession to Boston.
   
    1-10-BOS19 (00:22)  BOS 13 Malone dropped to one knee for -1 yards.
    .
   
    Game MVP: BOS 9 Tito Rasheed


Maple Leafs 11-18-2004 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by primelord
Here is a copy of a game log with the expanded information. I have bolded the expanded info.

Am I imagining things, or was all of that already in the game?

Edit: Never mind. It was in the play-by-play, but not in the game logs.

Ben E Lou 11-18-2004 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs
Am I imagining things, or was all of that already in the game?

Edit: Never mind. It was in the play-by-play, but not in the game logs.

Right, and for those of us who sim our games, it is a *very* nice addition to be able to get that information.

johnnyshaka 11-18-2004 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yabanci
I was REALLY hoping that this mean we would get to see formations and blitzes in the game logs, so we would actually know what was going on in multiplayer games. The game log posted, however, looks exactly the same to me too.

This is a great patch, no doubt.


Ditto...would really be nice to see if gameplanning is working or not in MP leagues.

Seeing as the play-by-play tells you about formations and blitzes that there must be some way to pipe it to a file...no?? I'm sorry if that has already been brought up before...I've just never seen the issue raised...being a newbie and all!!

duckman 11-18-2004 05:44 PM

Wow! I finally got my term paper done and another FOF update on the same day!

Somebody likes me. :)

Noble_Platypus 11-18-2004 06:11 PM

How do I get the game for free? It still wants to charge me $30.

JeeberD 11-18-2004 06:13 PM

Go to the Reference Thread and click on the large and bolded "Front Office 2004". It's a link to the .exe...

Noble_Platypus 11-18-2004 06:19 PM

Thanks Jeeb. Thats it then? download the update and go?

FBPro 11-18-2004 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noble_Platypus
How do I get the game for free? It still wants to charge me $30.


You need to make sure that the game is currently licensed on your PC.

JeeberD 11-18-2004 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Noble_Platypus
Thanks Jeeb. Thats it then? download the update and go?


Yup, download and install and you'll be good to go!

Noble_Platypus 11-18-2004 06:31 PM

Jeeb, am I reading this wrong when he said those who didnt have the game he is dropping the $30? I didnt have 2004 before and now that its installed it asks for an ID #

Ben E Lou 11-18-2004 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Noble_Platypus
Jeeb, am I reading this wrong when he said those who didnt have the game he is dropping the $30? I didnt have 2004 before and now that its installed it asks for an ID #

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Originally Posted by Solecismic
As a pre-holiday shopping period bonus, we are dropping the purchase price to $29.95 for those of you who don't already have the game.

You misread it.

Noble_Platypus 11-18-2004 06:33 PM

Thanks SD

samifan24 11-18-2004 06:34 PM

Stupid question, but how do I return my copy to the regular NFL teams to begin play with the new file? I was in a mp league and so my game's got all those teams set when you start a new career.

Flasch186 11-18-2004 06:52 PM

thanks jim......appreciate the kind gesture. Do you accept donations?


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