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Bad-example 10-03-2006 11:38 PM

Showtime Series - Dexter
 
I watched the first episode last night. I think this show looks pretty promising. They were smart to cast a couple actors from OZ, Enrique Morales and Doctor Nathan, in minor roles. They know they are after a similar audience. Also, setting the show in Miami was a good decision. I hope this one develops into a solid show. I haven't really looked forward to a Showtime original show since Outer Limits, although Weeds is ok.

ISiddiqui 10-03-2006 11:40 PM

If they wanted to be faithful to the books they had to set it in Miami. I know that isn't always a priority for show producers, but Dexter Morgan really gels with Miami it seems to me.

Bad-example 10-03-2006 11:58 PM

Ah, I had no idea this was based on a series of books. I have a long reading list at the moment but might have to add this.

TazFTW 10-04-2006 12:02 AM

Great pilot. Hope it keeps it up.

Fouts 10-04-2006 01:37 AM

I loved it. Creepy show, with some weird characters. Just when I think about getting rid of showtime, this show pops up.

bosshogg23 10-04-2006 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 1264449)
If they wanted to be faithful to the books they had to set it in Miami. I know that isn't always a priority for show producers, but Dexter Morgan really gels with Miami it seems to me.


It is set in Miami.

I enjoyed the first episode, Erik King playing the pissed off cop, had some great lines.

If you think this show is good, try Brotherhood on Showtime, its excellent and renewed for a 2nd season.

Swaggs 10-04-2006 09:17 AM

This looked interesting to me.

I like to rent shows like these on DVD after the season, so I can watch them all in a row, rather than waiting for a full season to unfold. :)

Passacaglia 10-04-2006 10:05 AM

Dexter has an awesome cider mill.

Bad-example 10-04-2006 11:42 AM

A nice read on Dexter and Showtime.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...&sn=015&sc=189

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Showtime is now officially a pain in the backside for viewers who like high-quality television -- and that's not a wallet-specific reference.

With the dark, creepy but utterly compelling "Dexter," you could argue that Showtime has a trifecta of top-notch series worth shelling out money to see -- "Weeds," one of the best shows on television; "Brotherhood"; and now "Dexter." The pay channel has been searching for an identity for ages and is slowly proving that you can't just ignore it anymore.

However, an argument can be made -- though Showtime won't want to hear it -- that until it gets two more high-end series, the option to wait and get the episodes on DVD or Netflix might be more appealing than shelling out the monthly charge. "Sleeper Cell," "The L Word" and even "Penn & Teller: Bull -- !" are fine in their way, but when it comes to the cold, calculating decision making based on cash, they are not nearly enough.

At least with "Dexter," starring Michael C. Hall from "Six Feet Under" and based on the novel "Darkly Dreaming Dexter" by Jeff Lindsay, there has to be a legitimate discussion of ponying up for the goods. ("Weeds" alone is worth that for some people, but a one- or two-season commitment to a series is not the way to build long-term confidence; viewers want to know they can hang onto something for four or five years. That said, "Showtime" did pick up a 10-episode second season of "Brotherhood" when the numbers hardly merited it, so that's a positive sign.)

"Dexter" will no doubt divide an audience, what with the premise being that by day Dexter is a blood-splatter analyst for the Miami Police Department -- an expert in his field -- and by night, well, he's a sociopathic killer. Also an expert in that field.

The twist, as it was laid out in Lindsay's book, is that not long after young Dexter Morgan is taken in by a foster family, his foster father, Harry (James Remar in a low-key role), a Miami police detective, comes to understand that Dexter is different. He's killing animals. And chopping them up. Before he came to the Morgans, something was lost for good in the boy. As he got older, that desire to kill grew, and Morgan senior took the unique (but loving) route of teaching Dexter to direct it at those people who really deserved it -- killers, rapists, serial drunken drivers, etc.

"Dexter," then, is a case study in situational ethics. What's the difference between rooting for him and rooting for Tony Soprano, the mob boss and killer? Dexter is solving a lot of crimes in his day job. And while committing a lot of crimes at night, he's cleaning up a lot of paperwork. Vigilante justice? Sure. But it goes beyond that. Dexter likes it. He really likes it.

What makes the series work so well is twofold. Hall is magnificent; it's another sterling performance from him. But instead of being pent up yet emotionally explosive, like his David Fisher on "Six Feet Under," he's cool and calculated and entirely without compassion as Dexter. That makes him alluring, in a strange way. That he kills bad guys is the free pass to like him, unless you're hung up on actual justice and against, say, strapping bad people on rubber-clad, plastic-wrapped killing tables and sawing them up but good.

The second element is humor. As Dexter's voice narrates the series, his inner world is revealed. He's dryly funny. He has a spot-on representation of himself -- he knows he's "a monster." But he clings to Dad's teachings -- his retribution killings are the only good way to handle his need for blood.

Or as Robert Greenblatt, entertainment president for Showtime said: "It's not your mother's 'CSI.' " Indeed not. Though it does contain more than enough gruesome lab scenes and a certain fanatic vengefulness about dissecting others, so that if you have a yen for forensics, your interest might be piqued.

Of course, anything as daring and original as this should be trumpeted to the masses if it indeed does cross a social line that will be discussed in supermarkets and dinner tables (and water coolers) everywhere. People will be talking about "Dexter." Maybe not rabid endorsements. But it will be dissected. As well it should. "Showtime" has taken a unique, bold premise and put just the right actor into the role, while testing the boundaries of what people will find acceptable. That's always the ultimate challenge -- providing grown-ups with difficult fare.

"Dexter" certainly fits that bill. It forces viewers to buy in or opt out on the whole situational-ethics thing. It makes them cringe by being shown depravity but also entertained because it's funny, well written and smartly paced.

Also, one of the clear drawbacks of the premise is addressed early. Specifically, is this really going to be a every-episode kind of arrangement? Will he kill each week? And won't that be boring, not to mention a deal-breaker at the church social? "You watch what? And you like it?"

A mystery that involves a serial killer unfolds and ensnares Dexter in it. The killer begins to leave messages and hints, taunting Dexter to solve his bloodless crimes. Dexter, in turn, is very impressed. And very curious. It's impossible not to like where that's headed.

So, yes, Showtime has another gem on its hands. The channel's batting average is rising, along with its standards. That may be good for quality, but it's a real pain for people who want to see high-end drama without paying for something that's not HBO.


bbor 10-04-2006 12:51 PM

Pissed off that i don't get this show...It's right up my and my wifes alley

bosshogg23 10-04-2006 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bbor (Post 1264891)
Pissed off that i don't get this show...It's right up my and my wifes alley


News Link

Starting Oct. 6th you can download Dexter on Yahoo according to the above link.

Showtime is free Oct. 6th - 9th so you should be able to see the 2nd espisode as well.

bbor 10-04-2006 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bosshogg23 (Post 1264921)
News Link

Starting Oct. 6th you can download Dexter on Yahoo according to the above link.

Showtime is free Oct. 6th - 9th so you should be able to see the 2nd espisode as well.


Thx:)

Bad-example 10-10-2006 11:46 PM

Three episodes in and the show still looks like a winner. Cool that they cast another member of the fraternity of OZ, Cyril O'Reilly. This series has a lot of potential.

Bad-example 10-24-2006 03:40 PM

Showtime will be airing the first four episodes this saturday, the 28th.

bbor 10-24-2006 08:58 PM

I've enjoyed this show immensly.

Eaglesfan27 10-25-2006 04:56 PM

I've also enjoyed this show. I didn't realize it was based off a series of books (saw that it was based off a book in the credits but thought it was only one book.) I definitely will be adding the books to my "to read list."

Bad-example 10-28-2006 01:20 PM

Tonight, 8pm for the replay of the first 4 episodes.

TazFTW 11-06-2006 01:01 AM

Great episode today.

TazFTW 12-18-2006 05:28 AM

Great season finale and it is good to know that this show will get a second season.

Bad-example 12-18-2006 12:07 PM

A fine ending to a very entertaining first season. Very glad to hear it is returning. I bought the first book for my sister-in-law for xmas. Maybe I can get her to loan it to me when she finishes.

Flasch186 12-18-2006 12:11 PM

It was great. Im glad I picked this show up.

Eaglesfan27 12-18-2006 03:30 PM

Haven't watched it yet, but I peeked in the thread tentatively, hoping there were no spoilers. I will be watching the finale tonight with Mrs. Eaglesfan. We both have enjoyed it greatly, although I thought some issues were entirely too predictable. I hope the second season doesn't end up being 18 months or a long time away.

Yossarian 12-18-2006 06:16 PM

I loved the finale.

I agree with Eaglesfan27 that I did find the show in many ways predictable but it didn't detract from my enjoyment because the execution (if you pardon the pun) was so excellent.

The writing and acting in this show is outstanding. I *knew* how things would end yet still found myself on the edge of my seat.

Eaglesfan27 12-18-2006 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Yossarian (Post 1337500)
I loved the finale.

I agree with Eaglesfan27 that I did find the show in many ways predictable but it didn't detract from my enjoyment because the execution (if you pardon the pun) was so excellent.

The writing and acting in this show is outstanding. I *knew* how things would end yet still found myself on the edge of my seat.



Well said. I think it takes a certain talent for a show to be predictable yet still entertain me every week. I thought the finale was excellent. From looking at Sho dot com website, it appears it will be next fall before we get season 2. I'm looking forward to it.

TazFTW 10-01-2007 12:05 AM

It's back! Good start for this season and here's to hoping that the show improves with original material instead of going off the book (my understanding is that season 2 is an original storyline).

Also good to see C.S. Lee is able to be in both Chuck and Dexter. He doesn't get much camera time but he cracks me up when does appear.

Jas_lov 10-01-2007 12:50 AM

It's gonna be a great season! The first episode was very good. Dexter is starting to get sloppy and it looks like more people than just Seargant Doakes are going to become suspicious of him. The whole show is brilliant, except for maybe the sister who gets annoying at times but I think that's the way the role is supposed to be acted.

timmynausea 10-01-2007 12:54 AM

I'm glad it's back. I'm hoping now that it's veering off from the books the plot will get a little twistier and more unpredictable than the first season. If they could get the plot/story details up to par with the production value and acting, this could be the best show on TV.

Eaglesfan27 10-29-2007 03:16 PM

I find this season much less predictable and even more entertaining. Last night's show was brilliant. I thought the interactions between Lila and Dexter were very well done, as was the confrontation between Dexter and his antagonist this week. Several moments surprised me:

Spoiler

Travis 10-29-2007 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1582647)
I find this season much less predictable and even more entertaining. Last night's show was brilliant. I thought the interactions between Lila and Dexter were very well done, as was the confrontation between Dexter and his antagonist this week. Several moments surprised me:

Spoiler


Spoiler


Cursed spoilers ;)

Eaglesfan27 10-29-2007 03:26 PM

That is a good counter point to my hypothesis. Although, it was still a shock to learn the first part of my supposition which I'm sure of :)

Travis 10-29-2007 04:02 PM

Oh definitely. There have been a couple really good "WTF?!" moments the last couple episodes. Not basing this on anything other than a hunch, but I wonder how long until he ends up having to off Lila. Just a guess of course, but I'm curious how deep she'll get before they reign her in.

vex 10-29-2007 04:03 PM

Randy?

Eaglesfan27 10-29-2007 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis (Post 1582681)
Oh definitely. There have been a couple really good "WTF?!" moments the last couple episodes. Not basing this on anything other than a hunch, but I wonder how long until he ends up having to off Lila. Just a guess of course, but I'm curious how deep she'll get before they reign her in.


Yep, I'm thinking the same thing. I think he'll reveal all to her and then have to kill her when he doubts his ability to trust her to keep his secret.

gkb 10-29-2007 04:12 PM

I recently purchased all of season 1 from iTunes and I've caught an episode or two from the second season. I really enjoy the show.

Jas_lov 11-12-2007 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1582687)
Yep, I'm thinking the same thing. I think he'll reveal all to her and then have to kill her when he doubts his ability to trust her to keep his secret.


Anybody still watching? Lila is the one manipulating him! Did Dexter realize this at the end of the show? Was that what the fixed lightbulb was supposed to represent? Dexter vs. Doakes is getting pretty interesting. You know Doakes is going to come after him at some point. They now know the Bay Harbor Butcher has a police background. Even if they get some evidence on Dexter will he say Doakes planted it? Any chances Dexter frames Doakes as the Bay Harbor Butcher? I think I'm getting too many crazy plots in my head. The show is getting really interesting though.

Travis 11-12-2007 11:51 AM

I really enjoyed last night's episode and was happy to see them do a lot to advance Lila's character (especially because I think it takes her in a direction that will end up with her out of the show but in such a fashion that Dexter's character builds significantly).

Also count me in the camp as really enjoying the Doakes story. Quite curious to see how Doakes will come back after this, should make for a nice series of confrontations/revelations. It's almost sad in a way as I can't imagine very many satisfactory ways of their story wrapping up without Doakes being removed in the end.

timmynausea 11-12-2007 12:12 PM

Last night was the best episode in a while. The show was starting to lose me a little bit, but I'm hoping it will finish the season strong.

korme 11-12-2007 12:23 PM

Watching last night's episode tonight, but would like to point out I made a Dexter season 2 thread about 2 weeks ago and I think it got only 1 reply!

korme 11-12-2007 12:58 PM

Also, could anyone provide a link to the series of books the show is based on? My mom is interested in them.

cartman 11-12-2007 01:20 PM

Lila is pretty damn hot.

Eaglesfan27 11-12-2007 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman (Post 1591895)
Lila is pretty damn hot.


Yes, she is. Hot and crazy. Mrs. E and I just watched this episode and really enjoyed it. I think Dexter did realize something is really off about her at the end, but I'm not sure he has put it all together yet just because of the lightbulb. I'm really interested in seeing what Doakes does next as well as how the triangle eventually resolves. It was nice to see Rita stand up to her mother as well.

korme 11-12-2007 06:07 PM

Just watched the episode

Pardon my boobs

Bad-example 11-19-2007 02:47 AM

Tonight's episode was just brilliant. I can't wait to see how they finish off the season.

Travis 11-19-2007 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bad-example (Post 1596298)
Tonight's episode was just brilliant. I can't wait to see how they finish off the season.


You're not kidding, easily the best episode this season and comes close to if not being the best episode of the series so far. Felt a little punch drunk afterwards as they just kept bringing it all episode, but was disappointed when the credits ran and can't wait for the next episode.

Eaglesfan27 11-20-2007 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad-example (Post 1596298)
Tonight's episode was just brilliant. I can't wait to see how they finish off the season.


We just watched it and I agree. This season has been excellent and tonight's epsiode was one of the best, yet. I'm disappointed this season is winding up but can't wait for the Finale.

Jas_lov 11-20-2007 04:52 PM

It was a wonderful episode! I can't wait to see who goes down as the Bay Harbor Butcher or if the case is even resolved this season. Doakes certainly made himself look more suspicous when he abruptly left the meeting with Lundy and didn't even show up to the one with La Guareta.

Bee 11-20-2007 07:56 PM

DO NOT FOLLOW LINK IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE THE TEASERS FOR NEXT WEEK.

http://spoilertv.blogspot.com/2007/1...futile_19.html

The first one was very cool. :D

korme 11-26-2007 03:06 PM

LAST NIGHTS EPISODE = HOLY SHIT

Travis 11-26-2007 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bee (Post 1597497)
DO NOT FOLLOW LINK IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE THE TEASERS FOR NEXT WEEK.

http://spoilertv.blogspot.com/2007/1...futile_19.html

The first one was very cool. :D


Not only very cool, but they managed to take everything there and completely twist it, fantastic episode. Can't wait to see how this all ties up and how (if?!) it'll lead into a third season.

Eaglesfan27 11-26-2007 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis (Post 1600607)
Not only very cool, but they managed to take everything there and completely twist it, fantastic episode. Can't wait to see how this all ties up and how (if?!) it'll lead into a third season.


Agreed. Brilliant episode. The trailer at the end worried me because it also raised the question of will there be a third season. I hope so, easily one of my top 3 favorite shows on TV right now.

Jas_lov 11-26-2007 03:39 PM

Another excellent episode. Can't wait to see how Dexter deals with Doakes, his gunshot wound, the feds, rita, lila, and everything else. My guess is that a 3rd season is very likely. This show is the highest rated show Showtime has ever had and this season might be better than the last so there's no reason to get rid of it now.

korme 11-26-2007 04:21 PM

Highest rated show ever for Showtime? That's incredible, I didn't think it was that popular.

gkb 11-26-2007 04:37 PM

I didn't even know that not having a 3rd season was a possibility. That would suck...this is really a good show.

TazFTW 12-03-2007 02:11 AM

I like Doakes and I'll be sad when they get rid of him. :( His conversations with Dex have been cool. Maybe Dexter can get those tools back and implicate Lila instead.

Eaglesfan27 12-03-2007 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW (Post 1606306)
I like Doakes and I'll be sad when they get rid of him. :( His conversations with Dex have been cool. Maybe Dexter can get those tools back and implicate Lila instead.


I like Doakes as well, but I can't imagine there will be any way to have him hang around now. We watched this show before work this morning and it just continues to get better. This second season is much more unpredictable, and it is hard to predict what effects this week's revelation will have on Dexter's psyche going forward, but I can't wait to find out.

Travis 12-03-2007 12:28 PM

Actually, at this point, I'm wondering just how long Doakes might be around. If that storyline progresses through next season (I'm assuming he doesn't get killed this season at this point) with the trial being a central theme, you could get at least half a season to a full season off that, then if Doakes is convicted, there's always the chance of him escaping and tracking Dexter down again in season 4 or 5. Certainly won't be the same exposure as he's getting now, but they've left the possibiilty open to continue the show with him sticking around.

TazFTW 12-16-2007 11:57 PM

Poor Doakes. :(

Nice ending that would have been good to close the series. It is good to see that Dexter will return in 2008. 5 minutes from the end I thought season 3 was going to have Dexter chasing Lila. Err, guess not. :)

Eaglesfan27 12-17-2007 09:32 AM

Another great episode last night. I'm glad they didn't drag the Doakes situation out even though I like the character and the actor, I think this ending was more realistic. With Doakes still on the run or out there, you'd think someone besides La Guerta would start to believe him that he was framed or at least take a closer look at Dexter. I'm surprised Dexter found Lila so fast, but otherwise no quibbles with a great episode to end an excellent season.

korme 12-17-2007 06:58 PM

My mom speculated she thinks he didn't cut her up because he was talking about starting over, and she thinks his new method is different so people don't question if the BHB is still out there.

I simply reason that he didn't cut her up because she was in France and news of her death won't hit Miami anyway so he isn't worried about just leaving her in that hotel room. Thoughts on that?

Eaglesfan27 12-17-2007 07:02 PM

I think his stabbing her in the heart was very personal as she messed with Rita and the kids. For all of his belief that he doesn't have feelings, he is realizing that he genuinely cares for them and it affected him. However, I do agree with your mom that he is going to vary his methods so as not to resurrect the idea that the BHB is still out there.

TazFTW 09-28-2008 04:51 PM

Season 3 starts tonight! :popcorn:

Eaglesfan27 09-28-2008 05:13 PM

Mrs. Eaglesfan27 and I are watching it right after the Eagles-Bears game (which she won't be watching with me.)

kingnebwsu 09-28-2008 09:15 PM

Dang you people with your premium network!!! (Shakes fist)

For anyone who hasn't seen it, Dexter is one of the 5 best shows on TV. Watch it! :p

stevew 10-30-2008 01:57 AM

I really can't take Rita anymore.

Alan T 10-30-2008 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew (Post 1874259)
I really can't take Rita anymore.


I liked Rita the first two seasons, but hated the other woman from the second season that Dexter had a fling with.. Rita now in season 3 is starting to fall into her category as a distraction away from what I enjoy about the show.

Eaglesfan27 10-30-2008 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1874276)
I liked Rita the first two seasons, but hated the other woman from the second season that Dexter had a fling with.. Rita now in season 3 is starting to fall into her category as a distraction away from what I enjoy about the show.



I just don't see her that way. She is key to one of his central struggles. He is evolving, and actually starting to care even if it is ever so slightly about others besides himself. He cared that his baby survived. He seems to be getting some enjoyment about sharing his secret with someone, first Lila (sp?) and then Prado. Still one of my favorite shows on TV.

Alan T 10-30-2008 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1874292)
I just don't see her that way. She is key to one of his central struggles. He is evolving, and actually starting to care even if it is ever so slightly about others besides himself. He cared that his baby survived. He seems to be getting some enjoyment about sharing his secret with someone, first Lila (sp?) and then Prado. Still one of my favorite shows on TV.


I think I did not convey my thoughts well enough. I understand why Rita is there, and I understand the purpose of this arc to show another inner struggle that Dexter is dealing with. I was regarding more the actress and how she is played on the show. I felt the first two seasons Rita was more distant emotionally with Dexter due to issues in her own past. It created an interesting relationship and still allowed us to see the struggle that Dexter has relating to anyone.

When Lila (is that her name? I can't remember even), came into the scene, she was interesting at first to me.. but then she became too needy, was too whiny and I just didn't enjoy watching her character anymore and that effected my appreciation for the entire purpose of showing Dexter's need to be able to share the "true him" with someone as he had hoped he could have done with his brother the previous season at times.

Rita now seems to have been able to get closer to Dexter emotionally either through comfort or some inner need due to having his child and now she is coming off too whiny or needy now and just doesn't come off as sweet Rita anymore I guess. For whatever it is worth, I have -always- hated the actress that plays Dexter's sister in this show as well.. she just annoys me too. :)

stevew 10-30-2008 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1874292)
I just don't see her that way. She is key to one of his central struggles. He is evolving, and actually starting to care even if it is ever so slightly about others besides himself. He cared that his baby survived. He seems to be getting some enjoyment about sharing his secret with someone, first Lila (sp?) and then Prado. Still one of my favorite shows on TV.


I can see all that. I just find myself hitting the "+30" button on the remote every time she starts talking. Maybe i've found myself too often in the Dex type role where you have to keep knocking a dreamer spouse back down to reality, cause they have no concept of the way math works in regards to money, etc.

The ending to this storyline should be great. Especially how Prado is a lot smarter than Dex gives him credit for. I'm going to assume that at some point Prado will want Dex to off someone that doesn't meet the code(maybe involved with that Chicky Hines thing) and that will be the boiling point.

Eaglesfan27 10-30-2008 07:12 PM

I agree that Prado trying to get Dex to off someone who doesn't meet the code is the likely spoiling point in their relationship. I'm just curious how Dex will handle it.. will he further discredit Prado since LaGuerta is already suspicious or will he kill him off which would be outside the code?

Alan T 10-30-2008 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1874960)
I agree that Prado trying to get Dex to off someone who doesn't meet the code is the likely spoiling point in their relationship. I'm just curious how Dex will handle it.. will he further discredit Prado since LaGuerta is already suspicious or will he kill him off which would be outside the code?


My guess is if that is where this season is going, something will present itself in a way where Dexter finds the need to kill him within the code. He will find out some shady dark side of Prado where he was behind a bunch of crimes or something else.

Jas_lov 11-11-2008 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1874960)
I agree that Prado trying to get Dex to off someone who doesn't meet the code is the likely spoiling point in their relationship. I'm just curious how Dex will handle it.. will he further discredit Prado since LaGuerta is already suspicious or will he kill him off which would be outside the code?


This happened on this week's show with Prado wanting Dexter to kill the defense attorney and it was ultimately resolved. The episode was fairly predictable and I hope the rest of the season doesn't end up with Miguel or Quinn being the skinner.

The worst part of the show is the IA chick. I just wish she'd go away.

Bad-example 11-11-2008 08:44 AM

Been thinking Masuka is the skinner for a few weeks.

Eaglesfan27 11-11-2008 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bad-example (Post 1884699)
Been thinking Masuka is the skinner for a few weeks.



That would be unexpected. Quinn is my guess, and I really hope that I'm wrong.

Alan T 11-11-2008 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1884753)
That would be unexpected. Quinn is my guess, and I really hope that I'm wrong.



I told my wife that Sunday evening. Quinn is being staged in a certain way to where he's been trying to get trust from Dexter's sister, and at some point this season that will play a part in an episode as Quinn is revealed to be the skinner (and the IA girl who has been after him will suddenly be seen to be "in the right" the entire time) and Dexter's sister will realize she was played big time.

nilodor 11-11-2008 12:08 PM

Or Anton is the skinner, and Deb gets crushed again and next season she starts taking the law into her own hands, then dexter is forced with a decision to make.

Jas_lov 11-11-2008 12:52 PM

Hopefully the skinner is a character we have yet to meet. The most predictable storyline is that Miguel Prado is the skinner, Dexter finds out, and he kills him for it. Quinn is probably the next most likely to be the skinner, then Anton, then Ramon Prado, then Angel's new girl, and so on.

Deb getting close to a guy and the guy turning out to be a serial killer has already been done so I don't think that'll be it.

Alan T 11-11-2008 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov (Post 1884852)
Hopefully the skinner is a character we have yet to meet. The most predictable storyline is that Miguel Prado is the skinner, Dexter finds out, and he kills him for it. Quinn is probably the next most likely to be the skinner, then Anton, then Ramon Prado, then Angel's new girl, and so on.

Deb getting close to a guy and the guy turning out to be a serial killer has already been done so I don't think that'll be it.


The reason I am not sure that Prado is the skinner is that somewhat destroys his need for Dexter. He needs Dexter to do the dirty work for him.. prado is not the killer, he is just a guy with shady intentions that is using Dexter to remove people in his way. He starts off with some criminals who are "bad" people, and then slowly tries to make that black and white distinction into grey with someone like the Defense attorney.

stevew 11-11-2008 03:19 PM

Did they show who the guy looking through the binoculars at Deb was? A few weeks back when she was talking to the black kid?

Eaglesfan27 11-11-2008 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1884871)
The reason I am not sure that Prado is the skinner is that somewhat destroys his need for Dexter. He needs Dexter to do the dirty work for him.. prado is not the killer, he is just a guy with shady intentions that is using Dexter to remove people in his way. He starts off with some criminals who are "bad" people, and then slowly tries to make that black and white distinction into grey with someone like the Defense attorney.


Yeah, I really don't think it is Miguel. He is a slimy DA, but I think he is living vicariously through Dexter and has never killed himself. It's clear his father's past has messed him up as well as his brother, so I wouldn't be shocked for it to be the other Prado, but I doubt that too. I'm hoping it is someone we haven't met as well. To me Quinn would be the predictable choice, with Anton being the next most predictable. Even though, Deb has fallen for the wrong guy before, I wouldn't be shocked to see her do so again. It is clear that she has issues with selecting guys that are good for her.

Alan T 11-17-2008 09:11 AM

I think this last episode helps clear up that Anton is not the skinner, and I think it also makes me feel even more likely that it is Quinn as I had felt.

My next comment is in regards to the preview for next week, so I'll spoiler it:

Spoiler

Bad-example 11-17-2008 09:42 AM

A friend and I were speculating that Prado ending up in prison is a possibility.

Eaglesfan27 11-17-2008 09:47 AM

I don't think Prado has any chance of ending up in prison - he knows way too much about Dexter for him to live once their relationship falls apart.

Alan T 11-17-2008 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1888588)
I don't think Prado has any chance of ending up in prison - he knows way too much about Dexter for him to live once their relationship falls apart.



Exactly.

Jas_lov 11-23-2008 09:57 PM

So Miguel Prado has been using Dexter all along and those two will now go toe to toe. Very good episode. Someone already said Prado is unlikely to go to prison so maybe Dexter just kills him. It wouldn't go against the code because Prado has now killed an innocent person.

No big twist on the identity of the skinner, but at least it wasn't Quinn. Dexter vs. Prado is the main storyline anyway. I think the skinner will come back for Deb and Quinn. One of those two will die.

Eaglesfan27 11-25-2008 07:05 AM

I don't think the Skinner will come after Deb or Quinn but will come after Dexter. Prado did something sneaky when he went into the interrogation room to talk to him alone, and I wouldn't be surprised if it somehow screws over Dexter. I thought it was an awesome episode. I didn't see any of the big things happening: the length of time of Prado's deception, the skinner being someone unpredictable, and Dexter really showing some true strong emotion.

Scoobz0202 12-01-2008 02:53 PM

I actually thought this season kind of started out slow, but the past couple episodes have been awesome.

The end of last nights has me counting down till next Sunday.

Eaglesfan27 12-01-2008 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoobz0202 (Post 1896304)
I actually thought this season kind of started out slow, but the past couple episodes have been awesome.

The end of last nights has me counting down till next Sunday.


I didn't mind the beginning of the season because I knew it was building towards something great. This show has earned that kind of credit with me. Agreed about the last few episodes being outstanding. I can't wait for next Sunday night.

Bad-example 12-01-2008 04:02 PM

Great show. Great ending this week.

Killing off Prado seems like the predictable, easy way to write it. Hoping they go another direction.

Eaglesfan27 12-01-2008 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad-example (Post 1896347)
Great show. Great ending this week.

Killing off Prado seems like the predictable, easy way to write it. Hoping they go another direction.


I started to type that I don't think there is any way Prado can live through this, but then I was thinking a bit more: Dexter has tangible physical evidence on Prado, whereas Prado has nothing physical on Dexter (that we know of.) LaGuerta is starting to become suspicious of Prado, so that works in favor of Prado possibly going to prison and no one believing his rants about Dexter there. However, that seems like a dangerous liability for Dexter to leave out there. As Dexter said, there is no easy way to kill Prado without drawing attention to himself, as they are linked publicly. I think the only easy resolution for Dexter is if a cop kills Prado after he is found out to be responsible for Ellen's murder. I hope they don't go that route. Any other route should lead to an interesting season next year.

Travis 12-01-2008 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad-example (Post 1896347)
Great show. Great ending this week.

Killing off Prado seems like the predictable, easy way to write it. Hoping they go another direction.


Could be they do go a different direction, but if they do kill Prado (which is still the end game I'm guessing will happen) it'll likely be in a highly entertaining and unusual way. Can't see many ways of him remaining alive that'll make sense story wise that wouldn't seem entirely too contrived. I guess what I'm saying is that I hope they don't try and get too cute in handling this story just for the sake of not being predictable with the final result.

That said, I thought originally that Doakes would make it out alive and that season three would start off with his trial (and his accusations about Dexter and the fallout that would ensue) so maybe that'll be where season 4 ends up if they don't off Prado.

Eaglesfan27 12-01-2008 04:57 PM

One other thought is that I kind of hope they don't kill Prado because Jimmy Smits has done such a brilliant job playing him.

Alan T 12-01-2008 05:12 PM

I think Season 3 now ranks ahead of season 2 as far as my enjoyability goes. Season 1 is still the overall winner probably due to it being brand new though. I agree though that I think it is likely Prado will die, that seems to be the way the show ties up these loose ends. I am dying to see how Dexter gets out of his current mess though. Probably more eager to see the next episode then I have been in a while.

Jas_lov 12-01-2008 09:26 PM

"You got the ring? I GOT CITY FUCKING HALL!!!!!!!!!"

Give Jimmy Smits an emmy already! The man is a genius. If only there was a way he could live another season. This show doesn't really like to end seasons on cliffhangers though so I doubt he lives.

It'll be interesting to see how Dexter gets away from the skinner. I think he might try to turn the skinner against Prado and have him do the killing of the DA.

Lathum 12-02-2008 01:16 AM

My wife and I just started watching DVD 1 and 2 and we are loving it thus far.

Jas_lov 12-07-2008 09:30 PM

Miguel Prado is dead. Didn't expect it to happen this episode and really didn't expect Dexter being captured for his bachelor party. Looks like Dexter may be in trouble for real next episode. Ramon Prado is one big angry bastard.

stevew 12-07-2008 11:43 PM

I wonder if george king is miguel's bastard brother or something.

Still despise Rita.

Eaglesfan27 12-08-2008 12:19 AM

Loved the twist of Dexter being "kidnapped" for his bachelor party, and enjoyed his punch on Masuka even more. Another excellent episode. I can't wait to see how things resolve the next week. I'm thinking either Ramon or the Skinner will be left unresolved for next season.

Bad-example 12-08-2008 09:39 AM

Kind of a bummer, taking out Prado quickly and easily. Feel a bit let down by the anti-climax. The episode was still good but the writers just flushed him down, normal Dex style, bye bye Miguel.

At least they can have Jimmy Smits back in future seasons. He can be Dexter's dark side.

Eaglesfan27 12-08-2008 12:36 PM

I didn't mind him taking Prado out that easily. Prado was a messed up person who is a master of the political game, but he doesn't have Dexter's real world experience with killing. I felt tension when he was killing Prado, but it was from Dexter's issues with his betrayed friendship. I loved the dialogue/interaction before he ended Prado's life. Also, I couldn't help but wonder throughout it if the Skinner was somehow going to save Prado which added to the tension. I just didn't see it as anti-climatic. Now, I'm looking forward to seeing the aftermath of that death as well as the issues of Ramon and the Skinner in the last episode.

mauchow 12-15-2008 08:53 PM

Well. Another 9 month wait to the one of the best shows on TV.


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