Mayweather vs De La Hoya
 

Suprised there's been no thread about "the fight that will save boxing".

Does anyone see De La Hoya having much of a chance in this one? If you remove the names and look at boxing styles and recent matches, this looks horribly one-sided to me.

I hear the fight will never end.

De La Hoya doesn't fight much anymore, and I thought Mayorga was going to tear him a new one last year (turns out Mayorga was all talk). Not looking good for Oscar again, but who knows?

Come on Floyd!! Make Grand Rapids proud, and put that nancy boy down.

I'm considering buying the fight, because I'd like to see it. But I guess part of me feels kinda slimy buying the fight. And HBO will show a replay some other time, right? I have that channel.

I want to see this fight really bad but i refuse to buy it on PPV. I've been burnt too many times by boxing PPV.

Ever since the Tyson vs. Sphinx fight, I vowed never to pay for a fight on PPV, even though I was in high school when this fight was taking place.

Same. I'd be much more inclined to pay for this fight if I promoters didn't think every fight should be a major PPV event. As it is now its hard for me to get excited about PPV fights anymore and I don't see myself shelling out $55 for this one.

Michael Spinks had never been knockdown before this fight and he had a 31-0 record, plus he just beat Larry Holmes twice in a row. It was a good fight on paper but not in the ring..

For this fight, I would like to see De La Hoya win but Mayweather is one bad mutha...

I am getting the fight and will have 2 million of my closest friends watching it with me!

Seriously, I have some amigos coming over to play a little 360 before the fight then we'll watch De La Hoya win!

Mayweather hands down. Have to go with the hometown kid.

Hell yeah, man.

I was at this dude's house for that fight, and he did some minor construction to his house (cut some holes, etc.) before the fight to run some kind of cable line to his bigger TV from another room. He almost started crying after the fight was over, cause he went through alot of friggin trouble for nothing.

While I still think Mayweather will win the fight (but I'm hoping Oscar wins), De La Hoya weighed in at the weight limit of 154 and Mayweather weighed in at 150. I'm not sold on the idea that a few pounds, even at that level, makes much of a difference, but if it does, there it is.

And for the record, I would much rather pay for a dozen Tyson-Spinks fights than a single John Ruiz fight. :D

Why would you feel "slimy" buying the fight? I've ordered numerous boxing PPV's and only been disappointed twice(Jones-Tarver3 and Tyson hitting some tool after the bell and the tool faking an injury after the first round). This fight will live up to expectations because its in the lower weights. Boxing is a great sport if you look for more than knockouts.

Because they're hyping this thing beyond belief to get us to buy. I've never bought PPV before, but my dad always used to and sure enough, the fights never lasted long enough to make it worthwhile. Kinda crappy to me.

Even hearing the HBO PPV VP on TV the other day saying that he believed more championship level boxing had to be on TV accessible for ordinary folks, made me believe that not buying this fight makes more sense than not. Especially since my sports fan friends aren't in town this weekend anyway.

I'll be buying and watching. And rooting for De La Hoya to knock the snot out of Mayweather. Does anyone know how many undercards will be shown on the broadcast? I know Jaurez/Hernandez will be shown. Also, $55 isn't much for a few hours of entertainment. Even if the main fight disappoints you'll get a few hours of boxing and commentary if you're watching the undercard bout. Have a few drinks in any bar in Chicago and you're paying more than $55...

I don't put much stock in the weigh-in, but there being a 4 pound difference is a little surprising. Usually boxers have to struggle to make the limit, then show up on fight night weighing 5 to 10 pounds more at the weigh-in. Might be interesting if the Golden Boy is 10 to 15 pounds heavier then Mayweather during the fight.

UFC > Boxing

2 undercards

The main event is scheduled to start at 11:30pm EST.

Man, I'd love to see this tonight but I'm going to be at the Royals game so I'm going to be missing this and the Rockets game 7 :(

SI

what better royals game or fight?

Well, considering I can actully go to one (and it's buck night) and the other I'll just be sitting at home watching. I'll take the live sporting event.

SI

Agreed.

And Pro Wrestling > UFC

Beers for a buck? ;)

I don't think he'll come in much heavier than his 154 weigh in. Maybe 158-160. When he fought Hopkins, he weighed in at 156, 4 pounds under the limit. But I question how effective Mayweather will be. Not only is De La Hoya bigger than any fighter he's faced, he's also the tallest. I don't think the weight will slow him down, but he's mastered staying away from people 5'5" and 5'7". I wonder if De La Hoya at 5'10" will catch him more oftan and if that extra 5-10 pounds will make Mayweather fell it more when he does.

Geez, at least when Grey trolled the thread he compared boxing to an actual sport.

Hey, Pro Wrestling is fixed, not fake.

Just like Boxing. And NASCAR, according tp Tony Stewart. ;)

Trolling over, sorry. :)

And football, according to Seattle Seahawks fans.

Very true. :)

In any case, sorry for hijacking the thread.

I'm thinking the extra weight is a bonus for Oscar as well. He's used to fighting at a bunch of different weight classes, so having some extra heft behind the punch can only help. Arturo Gatti is probably the most blatant example of bloating up after weigh-in.

Comcast sucks. $55 for a fight that they aren't even showing in HD. Sorry, but you could of had my money. Now I'll just wait a week or two to watch in HBO for free in HD

DirecTV wants $65 for the HD feed.

That's absurd, but at least they will be showing it in HD.

That's odd, I can get it from Comcast in HD. Look through the Guide, on mine it's labeled "Boxing in HD" and it's channel 214 or something like that (it's in with the rest of the HD channel section).

Yeah, I felt sorry for Gamache. That fight ended his career (although at his age, he was close to done anyway). EDIT: Just read that he suffered permanent brain damage because of that fight.

I guess Bay Area comcast sucks then

That was an entertaining lightweight undercard. Lots of action, and it went the distance to boot.

Just made it home with some family, we thought we would order it. Phone number is continually busy and the website is toast.

Oh, well.

If you hop in the car NOW, and take 281 down, you MIGHT make it to my place before the main event is over, as long as the undercards and main event go the distance...

:D

I'm half tempted to order this. I probably shouldn't. But I'm tempted.

If you are calling or using online to do it, good luck.

I live in Wyoming. There isn't any waiting in line for much of anything here.

With digital cable, you just push a button and click "order".

Dang no one was around to head out to the bars to watch this tonight. Anyone know of a place i can get updates?

Floyd Mayweather, Sr. is annoying to listen to. I mean, that's just a bizarre situation with Sr. v. Jr.

Bleh. I hope this fight goes a while or else I'll never do this again.

Mayweather Sr. needs to stop hanging out with Marion Barry. Seriously, lay off the pipe, dude.

Glad you said it. I thought it...

Well it sucks here too. In the 10th round of the first fight (little over an hour ago), it cuts out and it hasn't come back on. Been trying to call since it cut out and it's been busy.

The second fight was entertaining as well. I hope the main event can hope to match the intensity of the under cards...

Didn't know Wesley Snipes was out of hiding.

Zimbabwe can only provide so much cover...

:D

Mexican national anthem. Interesting.

Wow. Love the hat.

Oh God. 50 Cent. Bleh.

So far, so good.

ESPN is doing round by round coverage for those that didn't order.

hxxp://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2861712

Seems like Mayweather is playing with him right now.

"Let the little bitch get tired."

Gotta love the talk in the corner.

Oscar looked really good at the beginning of that third round. Really aggressive. It didn't seem that effective, but...it sure looked good. But he making a fight of it.

Seems like the Mayweather strategy is "just sit back and relax. You'll get your chance."


And De La Hoya fights like he's tense, like he's got something to prove, but he's fighting scared. But that's just me.

Judging from the 3 different scores I've seen for the fight, this one is fairly split so far.

the espn feed has two guys giving the rounds, one seems to be giving all the close rounds to Mayweather, the other to De La Hoya, how do you score it, DC?

Oscar is fighting like a busy rabbit. He's trying really hard to land punches, but they just seem like they're really that effective to me. He's fighting for a decision, rather than to try knock out Mayweather.

That said, it's a close fight and if De La Hoya can keep this going for the rest of the fight, he might be able to land a split decision.

But....it's a long fight and I haven't seen anything from him that makes me think that he'll really be able to do that.

Just saw John McCain. He likes what he sees, apparently.

I think De La Hoya might have barely won Round 6. I mean, it's close.

Oscar has only landed 25% of his punches in this fight. Mayweather is landing about 40% of his.

I'm trying to watch the Mets game, keep up with this fight, and watch the last 2 minues of the Jazz/Rockets......

So far in the 7th, it's started similar to others. De La Hoya comes out with a fury and gets Mayweather on the ropes and starts that thing he does.

And now they're in the middle of the ring, where Mayweather seems to want things to be. He just landed a hell of a body shot. Ouch. I wonder how many of those Oscar can take.

I think Mayweather knows he has to get a knockout. Oscar can keep on doing what he's doing and he can win this thing.

HBO is scoring it 67-66 so far in favor of Mayweather.

Wow. Oscar is serious. Just putting it on him just a minute ago. Mayweather is fighting like a technican. He's trying to conserve his punches and is making them effective when he throws them. But...I'm not convinced it's really doing a whole lot for him in this particular fight. Especially as it gets further down the line.

Oscar has to keep Mayweather on the ropes or he'll just get outboxed in the center of the ring. Oscar's style in his last several fights has been to stand in the center of the ring, thats the main reason I saw this as a mismatch.

Oscar could very well catch Floyd with a left hook late in this one to end it if he starts to gamble.. I'll be suprised if Mayweather gets a knockout, he just doesn't have the power Oscar does.

De La Hoya had the Mexican anthem played? Not sure why that would be interesting, he is a mexican-american and it is Cinco De Mayo. Makes sense to me.

Interesting because he is from California maybe

what's the HBO scoring? ESPN's all over the place..

78-72 after 10 rounds on HBO

Wow, everything else I'm seeing has a slight edge for Mayweather.

Fuckin Comcast... :(

I replied, but my PC crashed.

Basically...I was saying that it was interesting because I never get to hear the Mexican anthem. Obviously used to the Canadian anthem because of hockey and Blue Jays baseball. But...never hear the Mexican anthem due to the lack of major league teams there.

So it was interesting to hear it sung.

They avoid showing Mayweather's corner, because all Mayweather's uncle is doing is swearing and say stuff about De La Hoya.

107-102 Mayweather on HBO card going into the last round.

Oscar is going for the knockout.

De La Hoya is throwing a ton of punches and has all day. And the thing is, he's not really landing them and they aren't that effective. The problem is, Mayweather hasn't put him away at all. This is one of those fights where you wish the rounds were a minute longer or something. The crowd is beyond Oscar almost unanimously and so, people watching who aren't close, might be swayed by that.

Last minute of the 12th. Mayweather is laughing a lot when Oscar gets him on the ropes. But I think he knows that this thing is over.

Hell of a fight, all of the way to the end.

It'll be very interesting to see what the judges decide.

HBO final card says 116-112 Mayweather.

Mayweather's dad went over to him to give him a hug after the fight. What a bizarre situation.

That said, the fans probably won't be very happy with anything other than a De La Hoya fight. I hope that they don't entertain doing it again, because I doubt Oscar could do this again.

He fought valiantly against a stacked deck arguably.

Here come the final scores.

115-113 De La Hoya
116-112 Mayweather
115-113 Mayweather

De La Hoya looks as if he's surprised at the outcome.

Fans are screaming "Bullshit" in the audience.

But c'mon, you can't land 24% of your punches and expect to win a fight. Sorry. Not when the other guy lands 57%.

Mayweather said he's going to retire and said that he wanted to thank his father.

Reiterating that he's going to retire after this fight.

De La Hoya is saying that he believed he won the fight. Basically, he's saying that you have to "decisively" beat the Champion. But...umm...right. Oscar was never "winning" this fight. He was just fighting to stay in it.

He looks a lot better now in this post-fight interview than he did at any time in this fight.

You have to be willing to deal in cash.

Now on ESPN News that the fight was closer than it really was. People clearly weren't watching.

This was the fight that supposedly will save boxing? I'll pass thanks.

can we just dissolve boxing now?

A few other people on the TBCB forum also said they lost their feed for the fight. I wonder if this is going to effect PPV buys. I mean, technically I'm a "PPV buy", but if Comcast expects me to pay there will be a lot of raising of hell.

Just read through your comments and agreed with everything you said. I was heavily rooting for Oscar, but he just didn't do enough. I think maybe one or two punches actually fazed Floyd, while Floyd caught him with maybe 5 or 6 really good ones. I was stunned to hear that first score giving it to Oscar, so I'm even more stunned that people were surprised at it.

Lampley and Stewart were right on with their ongoing analysis -- why did Oscar abandon his jab around the 8th round? It led to Floyd getting cornered and Oscar delivered all of his damage that way. I understand that it left Oscar open to Floyd's quick counters, and the heavy jabbing would wear Oscar out for the later rounds...but he should have realized that was his only chance.

Overall, I enjoyed the fight, it was worth the money, but there shouldn't be a rematch. Not with the crazy hype this one got for what ended up being a good fight, tactically, but not necessarily overly entertaining.

Gotchya.


That doesn't mean too much to many mexican-americans. They still show pride in Mexico, even if born in the U.S.

On a side note, it is Cinco De Mayo, and I have 9,546 bottles of Corona and Negro Medolo in my possession and can't drink a single one. Shit!

This fight shows why folks prefer MMA, at least to me. At least in MMA, it's a LOT easier to determine who's won or lost a round (and yes, it's not perfect)... but look at the insanity of this fight, and the variation in scoring.

The three minute rounds don't help either, compared to the longer rounds. Less Talking, more fighting..

(the fact that MMA bout goes like a maximum of 30 minutes once a fight starts (5 5 minute rounds (and that's only for championship fights!) + a minutes break in between), compared to the 50+minutes of a boxing match, 12 3 minute rounds plus the breaks in between) Means stinkers don't have as much chance to turn your audience off.

I didn't have very high image quality and I'm not a huge boxing fan, but it seemed like the fight was a more lopsided then the scoring reflected and a lot more lopsided then the sports media is acting like it was

Additionally, it was pretty dull