Werewolf LVII: Cathedral (GAME OVER!)
 

This game has been inspired by Coffee Warlord’s famous Yak game, as well as a game I saw somewhere that involved the idea of building something. Not sure whose that was. I will also say that I have nothing but the utmost respect for those who are of religious belief and am using religion in more of the cultural folklore sense than any literal interpretation.

Introduction
The year is 1350 and the town of St. Saldana has been prosperous for many years. It is now time to take that prosperity and use it to honor God, who has made it all possible by building a cathedral.. This would lack any noteworthiness were it not for the fact that the Devil was in a particular pique one day about all of the church construction, only days before the cathedral was to be completed. Hoping to win favor with the boss, Lucifer has led a crack team of demons to stop this cathedral. Not wanting to see years of piousness go to waste, St. Gabriel has led his own SWAT team of angels to make sure that the years of hard work do not go to waste. And then on top of all this you have the Bishop (the Bishop!) in town to consecrate the church and you have a quite a few hectic days ahead.

Sides and Victory Conditions

Villagers : Win a normal victory by either eradicating the village of demons or by completing the construction of the cathedral. Win a major victory if they complete both.

Angels: Win a major victory if the church is completed. Win a minor victory if the devils are eradicated from the village but the church is not completed.

Demons: Win a normal victory if they prevent the construction of the cathedral by achieving a 1-1 ratio with the villagers, a minor victory if the angels are eradicated, and a major victory if they accomplish both.

Bishop: The Bishop is a revered person in the community, but no one is quite sure whose side he’s on since his rise to the position of power was not completely through sacrosanct means.

Note: The game will end either if there are no Demons left or at the end of the following day after all work on the Cathedral is complete (so if all work is done by the end of Day 3, the Cathedral must still have no work left at the end of Day 4).

Cycles
Day Cycle – During the day cycle players can do two things: vote and work on the cathedral. A player may do 2 of one thing, or 1 of each.

A vote should be at the end of a post, bolded, and in the color orange, so it looks like this:
Votes not properly formatted may be missed.

Once a player works on the Cathedral they may not change where they are working.

Once a player votes they may unvote and choose a different player to vote for but they may not work on the Cathederal.

A player may do two actions in one post. Each action should be listed separately. If voting for a player twice, vote on separate lines.
Day Cycles begin approximately 8 AM Eastern and last until 10 PM Eastern. Players may choose to PM the moderator with an advance action if they’re unavailable during the Day Cycle. The player with the most votes will be lynched, and removed from the game.

Ties: In the event of two players having an equal amount of votes at the end of the day, the player whose average vote has been on the longest (determined by post #) will be lynched. In the event of this being equal, the player with the longest held vote will be lynched.

Night Cycle – Lasts from 10 PM Eastern to 7 AM Eastern. During this time anyone who has a night action may submit it.

Each night the Demons will have the option of either killing a player or having two demons sabotage the Cathedral and attempt to damage it. They may sabotage the same place twice or two separate places. The Demons cannot do the same night action more than two days in a row.

The order to the Night Cycle actions are not publicly known due to the hidden nature of powers in the game.

Roles

Villagers
All players will have a public role. Not all roles have a special power or ability. Angels/devils may get to keep the power of their public role. There is the standard Duke, Bodyguard, Seer. There will also be a cultist who appears to the seer to be a villager, and counts as a villager for ration purposes, but wins with the Demons. He has other abilities.

Demons
This is a list of possible Demon roles. Only Lucifer is guaranteed to be in the game. Demons are allowed to communicate freely outside of the game thread.

Lucifer – The head Devil. As an incredibly powerful supernatural being he cannot hide his identity from St. Gabriel, but equally he knows the identity of St. Gabriel. He will, however, appear as a villager if scanned by the seer. According to The Rules, he may not reveal who St. Gabriel is posing as, even to the other Demons. He may freely communicate with St. Gabriel (cc’ing the GM). Lucifer also has other powers, unknown to any but himself.

Azazel – Brutal wolf. If lynched he will be able to kill another player. If killed at night he will kill the player attacking him before he dies.

Beelzebub – Any night attempt at sabotage is guaranteed to succeed and will cause double damage to that area. If blocked by Michah, he will only cause normal damage.

Leviathan – Once per game he may make a night kill which cannot be blocked. If the bodyguard is present, the bodyguard will learn the identity of the Leviathan.

Henchman – No special powers.

Angels
This is a list of possible Angels roles. Only St. Gabriel is guaranteed to be in the game. Angels are allowed to communicate freely outside of the game thread.

St. Gabriel – The head Angel. As an incredibly powerful supernatural being he cannot hide his identity from Lucifer, but equally he knows the identity of Lucifer. He will always appear as a villager if scanned. According to The Rules, he may not reveal who Lucifer is posing as, even to the other Angels. He may freely communicate with Lucifer (cc’ing the GM). Gabriel also has other powers, unknown to any but himself.

Elijah – Once per game may designate a player (non-Angel) who cannot be killed or lynched for the next 3 cycles (beginning with that cycle).

Michah – May designate an area to be safe from wolf sabotage each night.

Rhamiel – May scan a player each night to attempt to learn the details of their powers.

Uriel – Every other day may do twice as much work as normal on the Cathedral.


Building the Cathedral

There is unfinished work left to be done in several areas of the Cathedral. In order to work on the Cathedral post the “Work on” action in bold and in the color orange. So, for instance


There is work to be done on the following areas:
Walls
Roof
Windows
Artwork
Carpentry

How many shifts of work are left to be completed will be announced at the start of the game.

No work on the Roof or Windows may be done until the Walls are finished. If the Walls become damaged during the course of the game work may continue on the Windows and Roof.

A player may choose to fake their work on an area by PM’ing me.

Different areas cause different amounts of damage if sabotaged. When an area is sabotaged successfully it will always cause the same amount of damage, however, there are powers which can mitigate the damage in an area.

List of Roles:
Bishop: Neon Chaos
Bishop's Assistaint: ntndeacon
Lord Leige: Alan T
Knight: Lathum
Page: oliegirl
Friar: saldana
Novice: Chief Rum
Peon: path12
Moneylender: DaddyTorgo
Goldsmith: Mr. Wednesday
Blacksmith: Pass
Shepard: st.cronin
Mason: Schmidty
Butcher: Anxiety
Carpenter: PurdueBrad
Musician: RendeR

Alternate:
ArlingtonColt

Status of the Cathedral:

UNFINISHED

Left to do:

Walls - Finished
Roof - Completed - May not be further damaged
Windows - Finished
Artwork - Completed - May not be further damaged
Carpentry - 6 units of work

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wow...i have a town named after me, i feel so honored.

In.

I'll play.

Yes please.

Great, now I need to deal with Saldana's ego for the rest of my life.


In

In!

Count me in, I've become so addicted to this damn game its not even funny. THe good side of this is that my job now allows me ample time to post during the week.

I'm assuming start time for this is next Monday?

Correct. Roles will go out Sunday with the first deadline Monday.

I'm currently polishing the rules. I expect them up around 4 or so Eastern.

In. Pretty cool that now we have two saints playing werewolf.

I'm in

OK, then I'm going to have to miss this one. Have a flight out on Thursday, will be doing a migration over the weekend, and another flight on Tuesday. Too much time that I would be missing in the middle of the game.

Bummer - usually like to try and play in BK's games and this will be the second in a row I've missed.

This is all just a ruse to avoid being lynched on day 1.

I'm now ducking games to keep the "never lynched as a villager" streak alive :) God I'm pathetic.

I'm going to have to miss this one as well I think. Put me down as an alternate though as I might have a few days in the middle that I am available. Just not available this weekend, or the following weekend and none of november (I assume it wouldnt last that long though).

When's the estimated finish of this game? If it'll be done by the 25th, I can play.

Since it looks like we're going to have a smaller group of players I'd imagine we'd be finishing up around that time.

I'll also add the the full rules have now been posted. While not a simple rule set, I've really tried to keep things simple compared to other games of mine.

If it's gonna be weekend exempt I'll play... I'm busy all weekend

I've got my laptop now, and a ton of time at work, so I'm in. One caveat: I'll be most active during the middle of the night (work), and I won't be around until 2-3 pm EST each day. If that's ok, I'm in. If it's not, let me know.

What the hell, I'm in...damn addicting werewolf games!

I'm actually off work next week so I'll be around and available all day, nights it just depends on what is going on but I should be around for deadline every night with one possible exception...

IN

is it bad i don't even read the ruleset anymore, i just type in?

if i'm lucifer or grabriel what use will i make of my power to PM my opposite number?? ohhh just you wait and see...it will be interesting

You sir are Had as a Matter.

Oooh. Render's playing?


Sweet.

so when is this starting?

dolaquestion.

Roles are going to be sent out Sunday, first deadline will by Monday night.

BK, what was your answer to this question? I absolutely won't be able to play any weekend this month. I probably won't be able to post any during the evenings on any weekday or be around at deadlines, but I can probably play and post while at work during the days. If this fits ok with the game, you can slide me from being an alternate to playing.

I normally do a normal night on Friday and then run a day from Saturday morning until Sunday night with another normal night Sunday night, as it keeps the game moving.

However, I'd like you both to play so it would be more likely that I would run a super long day, ending at a normal Monday time, in there somewhere since I think no weekend play at all can kill momentum.

Ok, go ahead and put me in, since the weekend would come after my normal day 3 death, it probably doesn't matter. Worst case, I miss one vote I guess.

Count me in as well please

if still taking ins, in would like to be in as well

I would like to be in as well

I may enter. I have been away for a while and my wife was unable to get online all week. I had similar problems this morning but am okay at the moment. These comcase problems seem to occur suddenly and last up to month and a half with no guaranteed connection and then vanish as wuickly as they show up. Because of that I want to see if the connection stays reliable before I commit as I don't want to be in the middle of something like this and then not be able to get online.


(don't see this as guilty chatter and duke me.... :D)

If I do get in, let me know when I can vote AC and vote cronin.... :D j/k

I live for nothing more than your entertainment.

There is excitement in the air (or at least fumes). After years of work there is so little left to do on the beautiful Cathedral. The community has worked together for years to finish this mammoth project and it is so close you can almost taste it (though tasting is not advised as brick and mortar is rather poisonous).

But now, just as victory seems so close there was a set back. Your priest has warned you about the temptation of the Devil but it seems that some did not heed his warnings and now the Devil is in your very town. But you know that God would not forsake you and so perhaps there are some sent to help you. And so begins the work of both finding the devils and completing the work on the Cathedral.

The game has now started and you may start posting. I have posted the list of public roles in post 2.

This last half hour has been exceedingly busy at my work and so I have not finished balancing how much work needs to be done in the different areas. I will be posting this as soon as I am happy with the balance.

Remember that you have two actions to do each day and may choose to do one of two things with each: work on the Cathedral or vote for a player.

I'M THE MONEYLENDER!!!!

I have a public role, but not sure what point there is to share it yet. I am a villager.

could you lend me some money DT?

Bishop here. We're officially starting tomorrow morning right?

Check post 2. Everyone's role is listed there.

First deadline is tomorrow at 10 PM but play can start at any time

I'm still not saying what I am. :)

And at least I'm not the Shepherd that sheep-bleeping pervert.

Ex-squeeze me?

bahhh

Ya heard me!

Well, may as well start working on the cathedral.


WORK ON WALLS

No, I'm not a sheep. I'm the butcher :)

In other news, I'm back after a long hiatus. Hope I'm not too rusty.

I too have a villager role, but I'll keep it hidden for now. It;s not major or significant, but I like keeping an ace in my sleeve, or pork in my boot or whatever the appropriate butcher analogy is.

-Abe

Welcome back, Abe. I really missed having you in these games.

Sounds like a plan cronin..

Work on walls

I'll echo this thought.

Thanks buddy, I really appreciate it!

Hey, I'm checking in, sorry I haven't had much time to catch up I just got home from moving stuff from storage to my new home. I tried to skim through the rules real quick, but ran out of time (have to do a work change at 8pm tonight), so I'll try to catch up further during the work day tommorrow.

I don't have enough feel for anyone to make a vote for anyone just yet (I haven't fully read all of the posts yet -- am still on page 1). The main things I picked up in the rules was that it seems important to do work on the cathedral, and a day 1 vote where we don't know much about other people does not seem like a good day to do a double vote for someone. I looked then to see where to work on, and it seems to make the most sense to work on the walls, as two other areas depend on its construction..

I'll try to familiarize myself with other people's role descriptions and such tommorrow if I have time. Back tommorrow!

So...

Work on walls

That's three people working on walls (presumably). We need 8 units of work on the walls - until then, no work on windows or roof can be done.

I feel like we have a better shot at forcing the demons to cooperate if we spread out the work we do, so I suggest splitting our work between WALLS, ARTWORK, and CARPENTRY. That way supposing some work that was announced does not get done, we have a list of 5 or 6 possible people to vote for.

Even if this plan is unworkable (which I guess it probably is), I still think its a good idea for us to divide our efforts in those three areas.

By the way isn't the proper spelling "shepherd"?

checking in...will post a work action in a bit...just rereading the whole ruleset

Villager checking in...and posting my work action. I'd hate to break a nail doing constuction or working on walls, so...


WORK ON ARTWORK

Makes sense.

Build Artwork

Just got time to check in, I'll pay you all a lullabye as I am the Musician. I ned to read up on the rules again so I can offer something useful tomorrow

For now, I'm out!

Thats PLAY you a lullabye, DT is the money man, HE'll pay you for...well whatever sins he's into I guess =)

right now i'm very into beautiful blonde girls from cleveland who think that i'm the best thing that ever happened to them.


errrr ummm...okay...back to WW

So we're already starting?

Just a long Day 1. No worries if you don't post until tomorrow.

Hey, no love for Schmidtmeister too?

Well, I knew you'd be back eventually ... I was genuinely worried that Abe was gone forever.

But, yes, I do love you as well Schmidty. :)

Hey all, carpenter should probably do some carpentry work, so:

work on carpentry

BTW, I'm sure that there are some wood-working jokes out there to be made but I'll leave it untouched (hehe) for now.

+1 and checking in.

I love you too!!!

I feel the love. I love everyone!!!!!!!

Blacksmith checking in. I'd like to see the walls done as soon as possible. I'm going to work on them once tonight, then a second time again this afternoon -- I'll keep the one around, in case I need to throw a vote on someone, though I don't see that as being likely Day 1.


WORK ON WALLS

There is way too much man-love going around in here for my taste....

I'm sending you a mental kiss right now.

I will be out all day tomorrow as usual, so having the long Day One is actually of significant benefit to me. I will put in my votes right now.

WORK ON CARPENTRY

Since we seem to be following the sheep-bleeper's plan.

And...

VOTE ANXIETY

Welcome back, Abe!

Hmm, maybe selected the wrong color. Oh well, it still seems rather obvious.

i agree with whoever said we should get the walls done first so we can have access to the roof and windows....as long as we get them done, that opens up the ability to get everything started, even if they later get sabotaged.


work on walls

The color should be "orange".

unfortunately i'm not lucifer or gabriel so you can't see what types of nefarious things i'd get up to with my PM's as I alluded to earlier in the thread.

I don't like this play at all. I really feel like we should be making sure one part is totally finished. Also, why put in a vote for Anxiety? I'd rather us get the Cathedral finished then waste our time pointing fingers at each other with no info. I realize this gives the demons some power over the vote, but I think we can use that -- voting for someone at this point seems like a demon move. Also, that yellow is blinding! :p

I highly reccommend you sacrifice some yaks to make this project go well. :)

Good luck everyone, will be enjoying my view from the gallery.

Morning all.

first, you are a bunch of fags. :)

second, I think a good place to look is someone who was quick to begin building something. It seems like a good place for a wolf to try and hide.

The good Lord has tasked us to complete this cathedral... but he also warns us of demons in our midst.

As His standard-bearer, I cannot sit idly by and watch as these sons of Satan wander in our midst. I must find them, I must do what is tasked to me by Him on high.

so....

Work On Walls

and a vote to be named later.

Speak for yourself, oh loser to King-Nines! ;)

So, per the rules, we can perform two actions: if we like, we can actually vote twice. Or, we can work on the cathedral, or do one of each action. If nobody votes for anybody today, and we all work on the cathedral, I am guessing there will be no lynch.

I have argued this in other games, but I believe that no lynch on day 1 is normally a benefit to the village - we've had a number of games recently where that's been borne out. So I am urging all parties to NOT vote for anybody today, and instead work on the cathedral twice.

The downside is that, apparently, if only one player casts one vote, that vote will result in a lynch. We already have one vote for Anxiety, which I hope gets taken back.

I'll be out most of the day, but will check in around lunchtime.

I think if we are going to randomly vote it may be a good idea to look at the public roles and try to determine which one is potentialy the least valuable to us.

I have to go to an eye doctor appointment but I am gonna do some analysis on that when I get back

I don't think the public roles really mater, they're just a point from which we can get into character. The real power lies in the secret roles that we don't want to give out to avoid being killed off early.

I'd really LOVE to avoid a first day reveal/death by the seer for once (last 2-3 games the seer has bit it before day 3)

I'm actually in agreement with Cronin on this one. Lynches right now don't help us at all, we need everyone we can get to work on the cathedral and get stuff done. Once we can at least work on all the areas we can spend some actions voting people out. Even then though, perhaps we'd just be ebtter off working our asses off 2x a day and finishing the cathedral before the demons ever have time to defeat us?

I mean at best there are what? 4 demons? so thats 12 or so people doing 2 bits of work a day, thats 24 units of work a day, we COULD finish the cathedral by day 2-3 max.

If we DO that, even if the demons kill one or two over those 2-3 days, we win with ease.

Or am I missing something realy simple here that would cause that to fail?

That's not true of my role. I actually do have a minor ability to assist the village, which I prefer not to discuss at this time (so as not to give the wolves additional info in choosing their targets).

I have to assume that Barkeep has the game a little better balanced than that. :)

(Or, alternatively, that when he sees the game going that way, he will react accordingly.)

barkeep, question about this...



does this mean that since my first action was to work on the walls, if i want my second action to also be a work action, it has to be ALSO on the walls, or can i choose a different location for my second action?

i would suggest no one else put in work orders until this gets answered, as we may have so many people already working on one spot that we are going to waste efforts today.

No. Each action is independent. So you've submitted a work action on the walls and that's not going to change. However you can work on a different area with your second action, or cast a vote.

interesting point saldana.

And thanks CR, I maybe don't love you as much as the others now. ;)

unfortunately, even if the vote is taken back, according to the rules, an unvote cannot be turned into a work order, only another vote...this fact makes the quick vote for anxiety stink a little bit more in my opinion...because of it, we now have a "random" vote on someone, and lost a work action.

Well, you read the rules and let me know where the difference is, He said he balanced out the requirements for the cathedral.

Secondly, I've never seen a GM step in and "adjust" things mid-game so I'm not really buying into BK doing anything if we actually do try ths tactic. Worst case is we get the demons trying to sabotage everything as soon as they can and hopefully in doing so will give themselves away.

thanks BK....one more question...if someone decides to bluff their work order, can they change to another section via pm, or change to a vote, or do all orders have to be public, and only the bluff notification goes to you by PM?



with that in mind, here are the work levels thus far.

Walls - 8 needed, 6 publicly completed (cronin, NTN, alan, pass, saldana, N_C)
Artwork - 12 needed, 2 publicly completed (olie, anxiety)
Carpentry - 12 needed, 2 publicly completed (PB, CR)

so we only need two more people to put in work orders for the walls, and we can then assume they will be complete at the end of the day...if they arent, it means someone lied, and then we have a starting point for tomorrow.