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Coffee Warlord 12-09-2007 01:31 PM

Werewolf LXIII - Fall of the Elementals (Game Over - Avatars Win!)
 
I'm baaaaack.

Years have passed since the Elementals failed in their attempts to acheive supreme godhood. Humanity, realizing how close they came to such a fate, declared war on the entire race, weaving powerful magics to hunt them down and exterminate them.

The few that remain are far, far weaker than their ancestors, and they have gathered in a small mountain village, attempting to salvage what remains of their power. A desperate plan was hatched to regain their lost power. The few elders that remained broke their own laws, drilling a hole in reality and letting loose the avatars of the Old Gods - secretive beings of immense power and oftentimes instruments of divine justice - in the hopes they could turn the tide in the war against humanity.

It backfired. Blaming the remaining Elementals for their imprisonment, but knowing that even weakened Elementals in large enough numbers could kill them, they disguised themselves among them, wreaking havok and picking the desperate race off one by one. Now you are down to only a handful, and your kind has the unfortunate task of snuffing out the Avatars amongst you. Once per day, as the sun sets, one being will be placed upon the altar of sacrifice, calling upon the ancient powers to smite the doomed soul.


The Elementals

You are trying to save your race from impending doom. You've released several pissed off Avatars, and now have to figure out how to kill them. Even weakened, yours is a powerful race, filled with strange and wonderful powers.

Each player will receive 4 powers. At the start of every day, the stars will foretell the coming sign (Trout, Yak, Squid, Rhino). This sign corresponds to the power you may use at night. For example, if the Sign of the Yak is overhead, you may use 2nd power in your list (they are well-labeled), and ONLY the 2nd power in your list. ALL Elemental powers are 1 time uses, so use them wisely. The sign is determined by random roll each day, allowing you to use the corresponding power.

For example, Ed the Elemental has the following powers:

Trout) May slap someone with a fish.
Yak) May become total awesomeness.
Squid) May become colossal.
Rhino) May flip out and kill everything.

The day phase starts, and the sign of the Yak comes up. Assuming Ed has not already used his Yak power, he may use that power that day/night (some powers are day use). Remember, every power is a one shot use, so once it's used, it's gone.

The Avatars

They're big. They're nasty. That want to Kill Things. They can do scary shit.

Everything Else

This is one of my games. Things are not as they seem. Some players have secondary motives, some players are entirely on their own, and situations can change rapidly. Expect weird things to happen, because they will.

Also note. Like my last game, IF YOU ARE DEAD, YOU ARE NOT NECESSARILY OUT OF THE GAME. So don't PM with fellow dead people, don't discuss the game like you're out of it.

Usual standard rules apply. Bold your votes, don't edit your posts, blah blah blah. You know the drill.

Day Phase: 9am CST to 9pm CST I want to get at least 1 day on the weekend as well, unless the entire playerbase is gone. If we can run both Sunday and Saturday, great, if not, we'll just run a long day phase over the full weekend (aka Saturday 9am to Sunday 9pm).

Tentative Game On, Wednesday, 12/12

Signups

1) Barkeep49 - Death by A Very Unhappy Ball of Cheese. (Elemental)
2) hoopsguy
3) claphamsa - Eaten by a Trout. (Avatar of Fear)
4) PurdueBrad - Death by Avatar. And Calamari. (Elemental)
5) path12
6) Jonathan Ezarik
7) saldana - Death by Athlete's Foot. (Human)
8) Lathum
9) Passacaglia - Death by Squid Molestation (Elemental)
10) Swaggs
11) st.cronin
12) jeheinz72 - Death by Rhino charge. Ow. (Elemental)
13) Schmidty - Death by Goo (Elemental)
14) Mr. Wednesday - Death by the TPS Report (Elemental)
15) SnDvls - Death by Exploding Yak (Elemental)

Alternates
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2)
3)

Post Reference
Day 1
Day 2

Barkeep49 12-09-2007 01:52 PM

I'm in. This is one of my most memorable games.

hoopsguy 12-09-2007 02:08 PM

I'll play.

claphamsa 12-09-2007 03:03 PM

Im in ! hopefully this one confuses me less that the BCS game!

Do I get extra bonus for having a Yak tatoo?

Swaggs 12-09-2007 03:19 PM

How complicated will this one be?

PurdueBrad 12-09-2007 06:32 PM

Got a new laptop yesterday so I think I'll give this one a shot as well.

path12 12-09-2007 07:01 PM

Seventy-one times yes.

Jonathan Ezarik 12-09-2007 07:15 PM

In as well.

saldana 12-09-2007 08:12 PM

in

Lathum 12-09-2007 08:32 PM

in

Coffee Warlord 12-09-2007 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs (Post 1611288)
How complicated will this one be?


The rules you see are as complicated as it gets for players. There may (okay, there will) be strange events that alter circumstances, but what you see posted is what you have to worry about. There are of course, secondary motives you may have to deal with if you have one, but to be honest, this isn't all that convoluted.

Really, the ruleset itself is fairly simple, it's really a game of strategic use of powers, and dealing with the bizarre events that can happen when people start letting loose their abilities.

Passacaglia 12-09-2007 08:49 PM

This was the first game I was a wolf. In.

Mr. Wednesday 12-09-2007 11:24 PM

When is this expected to begin and end?

Swaggs 12-09-2007 11:41 PM

I'll give this one a shot, too.

st.cronin 12-10-2007 09:29 AM

ininininininininininininin

Barkeep49 12-10-2007 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday (Post 1611583)
When is this expected to begin and end?

CW had indicated to me he was going to start a week from today. I can't give you insight about the ending.

jeheinz72 12-10-2007 10:57 AM

Going to have to pass (I'll be gone for nearly a 2 week stretch from 12/21-1/2) but it looks like a good one!

Mr. Wednesday 12-10-2007 10:58 AM

I'm assuming it will go more than a week, so I must regretfully decline as (like jeheinz) I'm travelling for the holidays.

Lathum 12-10-2007 11:07 AM

Is there any reason why we can't start this game mid week this week and run 2 games at once. It's not like that would be the first time.

Coffee Warlord 12-10-2007 11:08 AM

I'd much prefer it if we did, to be honest. I just don't want to take away from anyone else's game.

Passacaglia 12-10-2007 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 1611763)
I'd much prefer it if we did, to be honest. I just don't want to take away from anyone else's game.


I don't have a problem with it. I probably chose a poor time to end my game (Thursday, 2 PM). It makes it hard to get another game started that week, but a long wait until the next week begins. Day 8 has the potential to be a crazy one (but then again, for all I know, it could be pretty blah), but I don't think it should cause a problem.

Coffee Warlord 12-10-2007 11:36 AM

Well, if noone has any problems with it, and if we can score a few more people by then, I could easily start us up Wednesday. Barring just utter ridiculousness, there'd be no reason we couldn't finish before Xmas then.

jeheinz72 12-10-2007 12:45 PM

With the new developments, CW thinks it'll be wrapped up (or me likely dead), so I'm in

claphamsa 12-10-2007 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72 (Post 1611833)
With the new developments, CW thinks it'll be wrapped up (or me likely dead), so I'm in



vote heinz

jeheinz72 12-10-2007 12:53 PM

*shifty*

Coffee Warlord 12-10-2007 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72 (Post 1611836)
*shifty*


Elementals don't have shifty eyes. They don't really have eyes.

Lynch him!

Schmidty 12-10-2007 04:22 PM

I'll play.

Mr. Wednesday 12-10-2007 04:32 PM

If we'll be done by next Saturday, I'm in.

Mr. Wednesday 12-10-2007 04:33 PM

Dola, that's Saturday the 22nd, I'm travelling for home then.

Coffee Warlord 12-10-2007 04:40 PM

I honestly think we'll manage. It's rare for games to go into day 10, and there's more than a couple ways to die here.

Coffee Warlord 12-11-2007 09:08 AM

Roles will go out this evening, Day 1 Starts Tomorrow, 9am CST.

Barkeep49 12-11-2007 09:15 AM

The earlier the better I say for roles, unless you think there might be a sign-up or two.

Coffee Warlord 12-11-2007 09:20 AM

I'm trying to leave the window open a little longer, just in case. Wouldn't mind another player or two for added insanity. But I'll prolly bump out the roles before I go home from work anyway.

SnDvls 12-11-2007 01:25 PM

put me in

Barkeep49 12-11-2007 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls (Post 1612584)
put me in

Being resurrected was fun even if I get resurrected as a good guy and you came back as a baddie :)

SnDvls 12-11-2007 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 1612590)
Being resurrected was fun even if I get resurrected as a good guy and you came back as a baddie :)


I just remember looking up yak info and passing it along to CW in the last one....that was lots of fun.

Coffee Warlord 12-11-2007 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls (Post 1612584)
put me in


Wow did you time that well.

SIGNUPS CLOSED AS OF NOW.

Coffee Warlord 12-11-2007 01:58 PM

All roles have gone out now. If you haven't received one, PM me.

Coffee Warlord 12-11-2007 02:06 PM

Day 1 is partially underway. No votes will be considered "valid" until 9am CST tomorrow morning. However, as all roles are out, game on.

The stars have aligned, fortelling their power for the coming day and night. The Sign of the Squid is overhead.



Save the Not So Colossal Squid!

claphamsa 12-11-2007 02:08 PM

Checking in as a good guy

Coffee Warlord 12-11-2007 02:13 PM

By the way. If anyone not signed up wants an alternate position, let me know.

SnDvls 12-11-2007 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 1612613)
Wow did you time that well.

SIGNUPS CLOSED AS OF NOW.


I know the anticipation was killing you to see if I joined so I needed to give you the most build up I could :D

Mr. Wednesday 12-11-2007 02:19 PM

Checking in.

SnDvls 12-11-2007 02:20 PM

BTW checking in

Lathum 12-11-2007 02:32 PM

checking in

Barkeep49 12-11-2007 02:43 PM

Checking out, or more aptly checking you out to see if you're an avatar.

jeheinz72 12-11-2007 02:48 PM

Checkin in all elemental and shizz...sadly, none of my 4 powers allow me to slap people with fish. I really wish they did.

hoopsguy 12-11-2007 03:05 PM

JE, sounds like you didn't get the cool elemental powers, as mine are entirely fish-based. I'm sure from this information that you must, in fact, be an avatar. I'll be voting for you as soon as I'm allowed to do so.

Actually, not so much. Just wanted something different to say than "elemental checking in".

Is there any value at this point in having some conversation about abilities? I honestly don't know as I read my PM if I'm a standard elemental, or if we are all going to have unique abilities. I suspect the latter, but figured I would put this out for some Day 1 group-think.

Schmidty 12-11-2007 03:12 PM

I'm here!!!

jeheinz72 12-11-2007 03:12 PM

Damnit, I really wanted to be lord of all things Fish!

As far as your question, I'd bet we all have similar ones we can use at different times. For instance my Yak power may be your Trout power.

Barkeep49 12-11-2007 03:16 PM

I would bet that while there is some overlap there is also some uniqueness to the powers. We elementals are at a disadvantage with seemingly no BG or seer to help us.

SnDvls 12-11-2007 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72 (Post 1612709)
Damnit, I really wanted to be lord of all things Fish!

As far as your question, I'd bet we all have similar ones we can use at different times. For instance my Yak power may be your Trout power.


I actually think there are probally 10-12 different powers at least and some that are the same. given what my powers are and when they can be used.

Lathum 12-11-2007 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 1612699)
Is there any value at this point in having some conversation about abilities? I honestly don't know as I read my PM if I'm a standard elemental, or if we are all going to have unique abilities. I suspect the latter, but figured I would put this out for some Day 1 group-think.


I'm not so sure it's a good idea to let the avatars know what our abilities are.

Barkeep49 12-11-2007 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1612724)
I'm not so sure it's a good idea to let the avatars know what our abilities are.

I agree. I almost hinted at one of my powers above and decided even that wasn't a good move. But I think that is for selfish reasons (I don't want the Avatars to target me).

hoopsguy 12-11-2007 03:43 PM

I'm not sure there is value either. But it does present one of those interesting scenarios where there is pressure on the minority group to figure out how to fit in with the majority group.

There are a ton of ways to apply pressure to the minority group in a game of werewolf. I'm wondering what people think about the risk/reward of doing it in this manner for this particular game.

Personally, I'm fairly comfortable posting on my capabilities, with a smidgen of discretion. I would expect that this makes a lot of sense to an elemental who is reading this post, if their PM looks like mine.

path12 12-11-2007 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1612724)
I'm not so sure it's a good idea to let the avatars know what our abilities are.


QFMFT.

Checking in by the way.

path12 12-11-2007 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls (Post 1612714)
I actually think there are probally 10-12 different powers at least and some that are the same. given what my powers are and when they can be used.



10-12 sounds like an awful lot. I'd think fewer but with different restrictions on when they could be used.

st.cronin 12-11-2007 05:00 PM

My abilities all seem to be pretty generic werewolf abilities, with some slight modifications.

Coffee Warlord 12-11-2007 05:35 PM

To clarify something brought up in PM by a player...

You do not lose all your powers when you activate the one eligible for a given day. You only lose that specific one.

PurdueBrad 12-11-2007 06:48 PM

Checking in guys. Probably be around either tonight or most of tomorrow.

Schmidty 12-11-2007 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 1612750)
QFMFT.

Checking in by the way.


WTFDTAM?

Coffee Warlord 12-11-2007 08:06 PM

Quoted for motherfuckin' truth?

path12 12-11-2007 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 1612898)
Quoted for motherfuckin' truth?


BINGO

SnDvls 12-12-2007 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 1612751)
10-12 sounds like an awful lot. I'd think fewer but with different restrictions on when they could be used.



I wouldn't say that's a lot if we are to assume there are 3 Avatars that leaves 12 of us elementals. you figure you share at least two different "powers" with at least on other person (that alone is 12) and everyone has 4. I don't think that's a bad assumption at all.

if there are only 12 total powers with 12 people then you would share your power with 4 people. not a large leap there either.

Jonathan Ezarik 12-12-2007 04:59 AM

Checking in. I'll be at work most of the day, but I'll be around for a couple of hours before deadline.

saldana 12-12-2007 06:23 AM

yo....checking in...will be popping in and out during the day at work

claphamsa 12-12-2007 06:28 AM

Im sick :(

Lathum 12-12-2007 08:42 AM

VOTE PASS

pretty much a random vote. I figure he may need tomorrow to sort out his game :)

jeheinz72 12-12-2007 10:23 AM

Has anyone not checked in yet?

Swaggs 12-12-2007 11:31 AM

Checking in and excited to get back into some WW. :)

Based on my own, I'm guessing that most everyone got some sort of modest/unique power. I'm not sure how helpful mine will be, but I guess it could help down the road.

claphamsa 12-12-2007 11:33 AM

Just to clariffy, Coffee, the Vote needs to be in by 9PM CST tonight? and then it will be 24 hours a turn?

Coffee Warlord 12-12-2007 11:44 AM

No, it's a 12/12 clock. Since we want this done before xmas, we can't do 24 hour turns. Day runs 9am to 9pm, PM your night actions from 9pm to 9am.

claphamsa 12-12-2007 11:52 AM

Ok, thanks!

SnDvls 12-12-2007 12:40 PM

vote jeheinz72

random day one vote

jeheinz72 12-12-2007 12:46 PM

I've finally arrived. I received a Day One vote.

jeheinz72 12-12-2007 12:48 PM

Well Pass is the only one who hasn't checked in. But I'm not about to jinx myself in the BCS game. I'll vote for the guy who fooled me big time last game and can be a dangerous player

Vote path12

claphamsa 12-12-2007 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72 (Post 1613339)
Well Pass is the only one who hasn't checked in. But I'm not about to jinx myself in the BCS game. I'll vote for the guy who fooled me big time last game and can be a dangerous player

Vote path12



I like your logic, excpet im gonna vote pass

vote passacaligula!

path12 12-12-2007 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa (Post 1613342)
vote passacaligula!


OK, that cracked me up. What say you, Passacaligula? :D

PurdueBrad 12-12-2007 01:23 PM

Random day one vote here and I think he was actually a solid wolf himself in the last game I was involved:

vote SnDvls

Passacaglia 12-12-2007 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 1613352)
OK, that cracked me up. What say you, Passacaligula? :D


I guess that's a reference to all the torture I've submitted everyone to with the BCS Game?

SnDvls 12-12-2007 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 1613352)
OK, that cracked me up. What say you, Passacaligula? :D



with all the times we've misspelled his name or just said clap I'd give him a pass on this one :p

claphamsa 12-12-2007 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls (Post 1613445)
with all the times we've misspelled his name or just said clap I'd give him a pass on this one :p


well someone (RendeR?) thinks my name is clam!

Barkeep49 12-12-2007 02:09 PM

So do we have two candidates yet? Pass seems to be one. Do we have an alternate?

SnDvls 12-12-2007 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 1613453)
So do we have two candidates yet? Pass seems to be one. Do we have an alternate?


depends on how you view people who put the 1st 2nd vote on someone?

Lathum 12-12-2007 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls (Post 1613462)
depends on how you view people who put the 1st 2nd vote on someone?


In my expierience that theory has never been valid.

SnDvls 12-12-2007 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1613483)
In my expierience that theory has never been valid.


again it depends on your view on it...be it right or wrong...it depends on your view.

Barkeep49 12-12-2007 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1613483)
In my expierience that theory has never been valid.

I would say that the theory is not valid, though it has been the case that sometimes a wolf places the first second vote on somebody, just as we would expect.

Barkeep49 12-12-2007 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 1613504)
I would say that the theory is not valid, though it has been the case that sometimes a wolf places the first second vote on somebody, just as we would expect.

By this I mean that sometimes the wolf would be the first person to place a vote, sometimes not. Doing so does not seem either inherently wolfish or villagerish.

Lathum 12-12-2007 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 1613505)
By this I mean that sometimes the wolf would be the first person to place a vote, sometimes not. Doing so does not seem either inherently wolfish or villagerish.


well that was my point. You really can't go bye that

path12 12-12-2007 02:55 PM

Frankly, it seems like this comes up every time and we never have a resolution to it. But I'm getting a vote in early for once:

VOTE PURDUEBRAD

For absolutely no reason.

path12 12-12-2007 02:55 PM

Dola, I'm out for a few hours. Will check back in this evening or so.

Schmidty 12-12-2007 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs (Post 1613260)
Checking in and excited to get back into some WW. :)

Based on my own, I'm guessing that most everyone got some sort of modest/unique power. I'm not sure how helpful mine will be, but I guess it could help down the road.


Welcome back!!!!! :D


VOTE SWAGGS

Mr. Wednesday 12-12-2007 03:01 PM

VOTE SALDANA

Just tossing another hat in the ring. (With head still attached.)

SnDvls 12-12-2007 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday (Post 1613529)
VOTE SALDANA

Just tossing another hat in the ring. (With head still attached.)


is he in this game? I had to look at the player list again as I haven't played a game with him in ages.

Passacaglia 12-12-2007 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls (Post 1613543)
is he in this game? I had to look at the player list again as I haven't played a game with him in ages.


If you had to look at the player list, don't you know that he's in this game? :p

Lathum 12-12-2007 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls (Post 1613543)
is he in this game? I had to look at the player list again as I haven't played a game with him in ages.


he doesn't play nearly as much anymore. He would rather spend more time with his daughters. Sap.

SnDvls 12-12-2007 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1613548)
he doesn't play nearly as much anymore. He would rather spend more time with his daughters. Sap.


I totally understand....my time will be winding down too once the twins come in a few months.

hoopsguy 12-12-2007 03:18 PM

Spending time with kids? Bah! :)

OK, so today feels even more random than most Day 1's in my opinion. From what I just read there doesn't seem to be even an effort made to justify the randomness of the votes.

Lathum 12-12-2007 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 1613562)
Spending time with kids? Bah! :)

OK, so today feels even more random than most Day 1's in my opinion. From what I just read there doesn't seem to be even an effort made to justify the randomness of the votes.


I justified mine.

jeheinz72 12-12-2007 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1613568)
I justified mine.


Ha


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