The FOFC Television Family Draft - Draft Underway
 

Okay I'm a little bored and had some time on my hands so I decided to think up another draft to host on FOFC. There are a lot of TV Junkies on the board so I've decided to host a Sitcom Draft.

The rules are pretty simple, draft the best sitcom family, and see if the FOFC Community thinks that you have the best family. All judged by them.

In the time honored tradition of FOFC drafts created and primarily run by Maple Leafs, I will be running a Sitcom Family Draft.

FOFC Sitcom Family Draft

This Draft will consist of 10 rounds.

How To Play

If you want to play, PM me. If there's a lot of interest, I'll randomly select ten players. By "randomly" I mean that after a day or so, I'll "randomly" pick whichever ten to twelve people I want.

The draft will be conducted via the forum, in a separate draft thread. When it's your turn to draft, you post, ideally with a brief note about the reason for your choice. If you won't be around, you PM someone else your picks in advance to keep things moving. You will agree to this, and then not do it. This will slow up the draft and annoy everyone. You won't care, you selfish prick.

The draft is a serpentine draft -- that the order reverses each round. Draft order will be determined before we start.

How to win

The fun here comes more from the draft itself than from actually winning, but just in case it matters: Once the draft is done, we'll hold a vote and let FOFC choose the winner. FOFC will pick someone shitty. They always do.

To win you want to assemble the best family possible.

The Rosters

You will draft a family of 6, a pet, best friend, bad guy/girl, and a location. It is up to you to decide who fits the categories the best

Your team will consist of 10 members, at the following positions:

Dad:

Mom:

Brother:

Sister:

Pet:

Best Friend of Lead Character:

Bad Guy/Girl:

Wildcard:

Housekeeper/Butler/Nanny:

Location of Family:

Additional rules thrown in to make it needlessly complicated

1) Once you draft a family member, pet, location, nanny, or anything from a TV showyou cannot draft another member from that same show.

2) When a "TV Character" is drafted, the actor or actress that plays that character many not be drafted by anyone else even if they are in another sitcom.

3) You are encouraged to write up a little piece on each of your picks to explain why you chose a player for that certain category. It could help you later on when it comes time for voting.

4) Additional categories or rules can be added by suggestion, but will be finalized before the draft starts.

5) I break all disputes and my decision is final.

6) No reality show characters. No movie characters.

A few notes

The draft is open to everyone -- observers are welcome. Discussion of picks is encouraged. In general, it's considered very poor form to suggest picks during the draft -- the equivalent of being the guy who doesn't play poker but sits at the rail and shouts out to get attention. However, it will happen. If you're the sort of person who thinks you'd be really, really bothered by this, do yourself a favor and don't play.

A final note

If the idea of doing a just-for-fun draft strikes as you as stupid and/or pathetic, but you're the type of person who likes to post about text sims on an internet forum... well, you may want to give this a miss until your sense of irony develops a little more.

Round 1
1. Karlifornia - 1.1 Lucy Ricardo - Mom
2. Danny - 1.2 Stewie Grifiin - Bad Guy / Girl
3. Cartman - 1.3 Archie Bunker - Dad
4. DetoxRoX - 1.4 Arthur "The Fonz" Fonzereli - Best friend
5. larrymcg421 - 1.5 Cliff Huxtable - Dad
6. Raiders Army - 1.6 Alex P. Keaton - Brother
7. Maple Leafs - 1.7 Homer Simpson - Dad
8. Lathum - 1.8- George Costanza- Best Friend
9. RendeR - 1.9 Dick Solomon - Father
10. Tasan - 1.10 Mr. Belvedere - Housekeeper/Butler/Nanny
11. Wade Moore - 1.11 Lassie - Pet
12. Mustang - 1.12 - June Cleaver, - Mom

Round 2
1. Mustang - 2.1 Louis DePalma - Bad Guy
2. Wade Moore - 2.2 Theo Huxtable - Brother
3. Tasan - 2.3 Montgomery Burns - Bad Guy
4. RendeR - 2.4 Kelly Bundy - Sister
5. Lathum - 2.5 Mike Brady - Father
6. Maple Leafs - 2.6 Edith Bunker - Mom
7. Raiders Army - 2.7 Howard Cunningham - Dad
8. larrymcg421 - 2.8 - Mayberry, Location
9. DetoxRoX - 2.9 - Al Bundy - Dad
10. Cartman - 2.10 - Gilligan's Island - Location
11. Danny - 2.11 Barney Fife - Best Friend
12. Karlifornia - 2.12 Paul Pfeiffer- Best Friend

Round 3
1. Karlifornia - 3.1 Rosie from the Jetsons - Maid/Housekeeper
2. Danny - 3.02 - Samantha Stevens - Mom
3. Cartman - 3.3 Arnold Ziffel - Pet
4. DetoxRoX - 3.4 - Cheers Bar - Location
5. larrymcg421 - 3.5 - Alice Nelson - Maid/Housekeeper
6. Raiders Army - Edna Garrett - Butler/Maid/Housekeeper
7. Maple Leafs - 3.7 Tony Micelli - Butler/Maid/Housekeeper
8. Lathum - 3.8 Bart Simpson - Brother
9. RendeR - 3.9 Wisconsin - Location
10. Tasan - 3.10 Roseanne Conner - Mother
11. Wade Moore - 3.11 - Marsha Brady - Sister
12. Mustang - 3.12 Ed Norton - Best Friend

Round 4
1. Mustang - 4.1 -Benson - Butler/Maid/Housekeeper
2. Wade Moore - 4.2 - Geoffrey - Butler
3. Tasan - 4.3 Al Borland - Best Friend
4. RendeR - 4.4 Mork from Ork -Wildcard
5. Lathum - 4.5- Eddie Haskell- Bad Guy
6. Maple Leafs - 4.6 Mike Seaver - Son
7. Raiders Army - 4.7 Barney Stinson - Best Friend
8. larrymcg421 - 4.8 Elyse Keaton - Mom
9. DetoxRoX - 4.9 Kevin Arnold - Brother
10. Cartman - 4.10 - Malcom (in the Middle) - Brother
11. Danny - 4.11 Cosmo Kramer - Wildcard
12. Karlifornia - 4.12 Arnold Jackson-Brother

Round 5
1. Karlifornia - 5.1 Danny Tanner-Dad
2. Danny - 5.2 Mister Ed - Pet
3. Cartman - 5.3 Newman from Seinfeld - Bad Guy
4. DetoxRoX - 5.4 Wylie Coyote - Bad Guy
5. larrymcg421 - 5.5 Theodore "Beaver" Cleaver - Brother
6. Raiders Army - 5.6 ALF aka Gordon Schumway - Wildcard
7. Maple Leafs - 5.7 - Wildcard - Balki Bartokomous
8. Lathum - 5.8- Fran Fine - Nanny
9. RendeR - 5.9 Dan Fielding -bad guy
10. Tasan - 5.10 Steve Urkel - Wildcard
11. Wade Moore - 5.11 Fred G. Sanford - Dad
12. Mustang - 5.12 - Basil Fawlty - Wildcard

Round 6
1. Mustang - 6.1 - Eddie - Pet
2. Wade Moore - 6.2 - Florida Evans - Mom
3. Tasan - 6.3 Dino - Pet
4. RendeR - 6.4 Alan Harper - Brother
5. Lathum - 6.5- Sam Malone - Wildcard
6. Maple Leafs - 6.6 Larry Dallas - Best Friend
7. Raiders Army - 6.7 Joy Turner - Bad Girl
8. larrymcg421 - 6.8 Ellie Mae - Sister
9. DetoxRoX - 6.9 Marie Barone, Mom
10. Cartman - 6.10 - Wilson from Home Improvement - Wildcard
11. Danny - 6.11 Springfield, Location
12. Karlifornia - 6.12 Eric Cartman- Bad Guy

Round 7
1. Karlifornia - 7.1 The dream world Bob Newhart- Location
2. Danny - 7.2 Charles, Nanny - Charles N Charge
3. Cartman - 7.3 Daphne Moon, - Housekeeper/Butler/Nanny
4. DetoxRoX - 7.4 Latka Gravas - Wildcard
5. larrymcg421 - 7.5 Mr. Wilson - Wildcard
6. Raiders Army - 7.6 Angela Bower - Mom
7. Maple Leafs - 7.7 Buck Bundy - Pet
8. Lathum - 7.8 - Clair Huxtable - Mom
9. RendeR - 7.9 Shirley Partridge - MOM
10. Tasan - 7.10 Richie Cunningham - Brother/Son
11. Wade Moore - 7.11 Fred "Rerun" Stubbs - Best Friend of Lead
12. Mustang - 7.12 - Monica Geller - Sister

Round 8
1. Mustang - 8.1 - Bernie McCullough - Dad
2. Wade Moore - 8.2 Deacon Ernest Frye - Bad Guy
3. Tasan - 8.3 Red Forman - Dad
4. RendeR - 8.4 Barney Rubble - Best Friend
5. Lathum - 8.5 WKRP in Cincinnati - Location
6. Maple Leafs - 8.6 South Park - Location
7. Raiders Army - 8.7 Miley Stewart - Sister
8. larrymcg421 - 8.8 Gob - Bad Guy
9. DetoxRoX - 8.9 - Lowell Mathers - Housekeeper
10. Cartman - 8.10 Eric Murphy aka "E", - Best Friend of Lead Character
11. Danny - 8.11 Samantha Micelli, Sister/Daughter
12. Karlifornia - 8.12 Wednesday Addams, sister

Round 9
1. Karlifornia - 9.1. Corky - Wild Card
2. Danny - 9.2 Jed Clampett, Dad
3. Cartman - 9.3 The car, from My Mother the Car - Mom
4. DetoxRoX - 9.4 - Michelle Tanner - Sister
5. larrymcg421 - 9.5 Murray - Pet
6. Raiders Army - 9.6 Scooby Doo - Pet
7. Maple Leafs - 9.7 Mallory Keaton - Sister
8. Lathum -
9. RendeR -
10. Tasan -
11. Wade Moore -
12. Mustang -

I'd be interested.

I'd probably do better with this than I did in the NHL draft, but I'll stick with observing since I had much more fun that way. Good idea though.

interested

Lathum is in

Really want to be in a draft. But I just don't think I would do good in this one... even though I watch a lot of T.V. Will be part of the bleachers.

I'm in it to win it!

Sounds cool. PM sent.

All shall feel my wrath

Danny is in

Great draft idea. I wish I had time during the days to participate in one of these. Maybe someday. In the meantime, I'll be watching. And casting a withering glare upon those who make poor selections.

I am in as a snarky observer. It's the role I was born to play, baby!

when is this slated to begin?

It's already over, baby.

Can't be in it, with no access to FOFC during the day, and my own impression of a lack of ability in this particular genre, but I will certainly be following along. A terrific idea, Brian.

If there's still space, I'm game.

Ditto. I think I'd like to play in this one.

I have 10 so far...there is room for 2 more if anyone else wants in.

So far I have Mustang, DetoxRoX, Lathum, Karlifornia, Raiders Army, Danny, Cartman, Tasan, Wade Moore, and larrymcg421

Maple Leafs is in...room for 1 more!

Is there a definition of "sitcom"?

Because if not, I'm totally going Bucc on everyone. I'll be drafting characters from "Roots".

You didnt read rule #1!

I guess we should add the rule that Reality Shows are not to be used...or should we just leave it up to the voters?

I'll be right there with you.

As an outsider, I would recommend no Reality Shows. It is going to be quite a stretch to fit people into the established categories.

Am I the only one that sees a pretty clear line between a sitcom and other types of shows?

A half-hour, situational comedy.

Do you guys not agree?

I don't want to just say 30 minute shows. There are some hour shows that can be added in. I'm not talking about CSI type shows, but there are a few out there that were an hour long and had "family" values or situations.

But all in all I agree with you.

Hour long shows are dramas, not sitcoms imo. I just think that in the TV World there is a very clear distinction between the two.

Was MASH a sitcom? The Osbournes? I think its cut and dry for the most part, but there's some ambiguity which I favor just leaving for the voters, personally.

Yes (1/2 hour situational comedy) and no (1/2 hour reality show).

I'm really confused as to how there is confusion here personally.

I dont agree. I should've went with my gut and left the word Sitcom out of the title...and just left it as TV Family Draft. But I"m willing to go with the majority here...if they want it to be limited to 30 minute shows then so be it.

I wouldn't be argueing if you had said TV Family Draft, but that's an ENTIRELY different game than the TV Sitcom Family Draft. ENTIRELY different.

There is a HUGE difference between a 1-hour family related drama and a 1/2 hour family-related sitcom.

How about we agree to disagree?

The definition completely changes the way this game is played, so I'm not sure that I like that option.

I am trying to be the better one here and not start a fight with you like the last time we were in a draft together. Sometimes you nitpick drafts and read into things so seriously that it takes the fun out of it. I understand the point about no reality shows but by taking someone from a "TV Family" that was on an hour long show that bad? Again, it is up to the voters to decide.

As I said a few posts up, I am willing to let it up to you guys. I WANT it to include hour long shows, but if people joined thinking it was only the 30 minute ones, I will just go with that.

Don't remember a previous fight. *shurg*

I'll just shutup and hope the voters understand what a sitcom is.

seems like this is something usually left up to the voters. Selecting something from what most would consider a gray area is a high risk pick.

It is your game, design it how you want. If you want it to include hour long shows, pull the word "sitcom" from the description and everything will be fine. I have always taken "sitcom" to mean a half-hour show, but define it however you want in your game.

My team is going to appeal to the FOFC GenX.

And by FOFC GenX I mean everyone.

Christ you're all so fucked.

I think Carrot Top is funny so, my senses are highly tuned to what is or isn't humorous so, therefore, I know what sitcom is.

I'd like the "sitcom" vs "family" thing clarified, if only because I can see people taking Tony Soprano or JR Ewing and starting all sorts of arguments.

Beyond that, I'd be fine with letting the voters decide what a sitcom is. Let's face it, every single person in the draft is secretly planning to work The Simpsons in as a "sneaky" pick, so we might as well have that argument now.

My vision was good wholesome family. Is that what others interpreted?

I wasn't sure if you met this, or any sitcom. I had planned on bringing the raunch.

I'll sign up if there is still room. I just want to know what the limits are, if its only 30 minute shows thats fine, if its up to hour long shows thats fine too =)

You are in RendeR. That closes the signups at 12.

I guess that's another thing we could leave up to the voters :)

Wholesome != sitcom, to me at least.

Also, can we take people who weren't part of a sitcom family? Can Sam Malone be my sitcom dad?

Yay I get to play

IMO the fun of these drafts is letting the voters decide what falls under the parameters.

If I want to take, for example, Danny McCoy from Las Vegas or McDreamy from Greys Anatomy I should be able to and let the voters decide the merit of the pick.

I agree.

Or Dany Heatley as a power forward ;)

so now that there are 12 do we have an estimated start time?

I dont want to be the guy who holds things up.

Also one thing I have seen work is sending a PM to the person who picks after you

I can do the random draft list and have that up sometime tonight. People can start picking, the draft can officially start tomorrow morning.

That's all contingent on everyone agreeing on the rules...

If only chauffeur were a category

That's fine as long as the paramaters are clear at the start.

How about we all just pick when we go .. I'll go first. K thx bye

Are we all okay with leaving it up to the voters...no reality shows...no movies...?

Are we leaving "sitcom" in the title? Or is it just the "family" draft?

Fine by me.

And I am stating emphatically I am picking the raunchiest team possible, and the judges can bite me.

But please vote for me.

And I refuse to draft a cartoon .. kinda.

I was going to replace Sitcom with TV. That way I don't lead the voters and drafters in the wrong direction.

If it's 30 minutes, and you laugh, it should count.

I can't think of an hour long show that I'd classify as a comedy. If someone could throw one out to help I'd be fine with it but I can't come up with one.

Well The Office is an hour sometimes. I know it is mainly 30 minutes but I don't want people to complain if someone took say Pam...and then someone else said...well The Office is an hour sometimes.

That's fine. I am just thinking of weekly hour long shows.

Like I think Rescue Me is hilarious but I don't consider it a comedy. That was all I came up with.

Eight is Enough

Eight is enough was initially suposed to be a comedy, but it tends to be considered a drama after the fact. When we startin?

Draft Order Courtesy of Random.Org

1. Karlifornia
2. Danny
3. Cartman
4. DeToxRoX
5. larrymcg421
6. Raiders Army
7. Maple Leafs
8. Lathum
9. RendeR
10. Tasan
11. Wade Moore
12. Mustang

Dola...please bold your picks.

The draft "officially" starts tomorrow morning 8am EST. But you can start picking now.

I've hired Sherwood Schwartz as an official consultant for this draft.

Christ you're all so fucked.

Alright damnit, sombody kick karl, lets get this thing rolling today =)

so are we drafting in this thread?

Yessir...i'll update the first post with the picks. I changed the thread title.

Karl isn't here, so i will graciously swap my spot for his and get this thing goinmg.....you know...for the good of the draft.

Ouch.

Okay, I'm here...let me take a few minutes to make sure I don't make an epic fail pick.

Shia LeBouf!

No worries Karl, just don;t take any of MY picks. bastard =)

Karl's pick is destined for fail.

Much like the s key on this laptop.

This word detined, i don't think it means what you think it means....

With the first pick in the Television Family Draft, Karl selects:

1.1 Mom-Lucy Ricardo, I Love Lucy

One of the biggest sit-coms of all time, Lucy was a shining light in the often dark wasteland that sit-com moms normally inhabit. She could pull off physical comedy, vaudeville nods, and musical comedy.

As hard as it was to choose, I felt this pick was necessary to take, because in the world of tv sit-coms, a good mom can be hard to find.

Bust.

And I don't mean her chest.

Suck it. Don't even remind everyone how I had to take over for you in the "Greatest athletes of all time draft" after you saddled me with lebron james and kurt angle.

I hate being #11, but it's good because I have to reshift my thinking now away from just my definition of sitcom ;).

I was thinking that if I had the 1st pick, that I would have been tempted to take Lucy, but would have struggled with putting her in the obvious 'Mom' category and might have went a different direction. While she was a parent on the show, I don't know how much Momness she really displayed. If there was a female lead category, I think this would have been a slam dunk.

I agree with the Lucy sentiments. An obvious choice to go somewhere but it makes it a tough sell because of forcing her into a catergory.

Ouch.

Not cool at all. If i could I'd ban you from this thread Ronnie :)

She was in the reach category on my board.

And I do mean reach around.

What! You said you didn't mean her chest, now you wanna reach around. Make up your mind!

Oh come on...most famous female in the history of television, and she had little Ricky! What does she need to do? Breastfeed on the air?

who hotter shia or lucy?

Too bad most people 25 and under think Peggy Bundy is more relevant then Lucy.

FAIL.

Some people here are way too eager to bash picks.

Comparing Lucy to the Shia Labouef pick? Madness...

In my defense .. My view is skewed by the extreme hatred for Karl.

I may be a little too young (and I'm not young relative to the overall board) to appreciate/villify the Lucy pick, but there are at least two moms that I thought of initially in this category that I think would be better received. I would not have floated either of them as the #1 overall pick.

More like RAIL!

I'm curious if some of the sitcoms I'm thinking of get picked anywhere.

I am not sure what value Mad About You has.

STFU.

Aren't you out of town?

Hope your luaggage gets lost.

For me, I don't really think of Lucy as a mom. That's why I'm panning the pick. It has nothing to do with time. There are plenty of older picks who will work great in this draft.

I could be wrong in my recollections, however. I don't remember the family portion being a central part of I Love Lucy.

Train, so my bag won't leave my sight.

You can hope for a derailment of the Acela tomorrow though. Thanks.

Not all FOFC judges are 25 and under...