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Bearcat729 01-22-2009 09:06 AM

And the Oscar Nominees are....
 
OSCAR.com - 81st Annual Academy Awards - Nominees


Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences
- NOMINATIONS BY CATEGORY - 81ST AWARDS -
Performance by an actor in a leading role
Richard Jenkins in "The Visitor" (Overture Films)
Frank Langella in "Frost/Nixon" (Universal)
Sean Penn in "Milk" (Focus Features)
Brad Pitt in "The Curious Case of Benjamin Button" (Paramount and Warner Bros.)
Mickey Rourke in "The Wrestler" (Fox Searchlight)

Performance by an actor in a supporting role
Josh Brolin in "Milk" (Focus Features)
Robert Downey Jr. in "Tropic Thunder" (DreamWorks, Distributed by DreamWorks/Paramount)
Philip Seymour Hoffman in "Doubt" (Miramax)
Heath Ledger in "The Dark Knight" (Warner Bros.)
Michael Shannon in "Revolutionary Road" (DreamWorks, Distributed by Paramount Vantage)

Performance by an actress in a leading role
Anne Hathaway in "Rachel Getting Married" (Sony Pictures Classics)
Angelina Jolie in "Changeling" (Universal)
Melissa Leo in "Frozen River" (Sony Pictures Classics)
Meryl Streep in "Doubt" (Miramax)
Kate Winslet in "The Reader" (The Weinstein Company)

Performance by an actress in a supporting role
Amy Adams in "Doubt" (Miramax)
Penélope Cruz in "Vicky Cristina Barcelona" (The Weinstein Company)
Viola Davis in "Doubt" (Miramax)
Taraji P. Henson in "The Curious Case of Benjamin Button" (Paramount and Warner Bros.)
Marisa Tomei in "The Wrestler" (Fox Searchlight)

Best animated feature film of the year
"Bolt" (Walt Disney) Chris Williams and Byron Howard
"Kung Fu Panda" (DreamWorks Animation, Distributed by Paramount) John Stevenson and Mark Osborne
"WALL-E" (Walt Disney) Andrew Stanton

Achievement in art direction
"Changeling" (Universal) Art Direction: James J. Murakami
Set Decoration: Gary Fettis
"The Curious Case of Benjamin Button" (Paramount and Warner Bros.) Art Direction: Donald Graham Burt
Set Decoration: Victor J. Zolfo
"The Dark Knight" (Warner Bros.) Art Direction: Nathan Crowley
Set Decoration: Peter Lando
"The Duchess" (Paramount Vantage, Pathé and BBC Films) Art Direction: Michael Carlin
Set Decoration: Rebecca Alleway
"Revolutionary Road" (DreamWorks, Distributed by Paramount Vantage) Art Direction: Kristi Zea
Set Decoration: Debra Schutt

Achievement in cinematography
"Changeling" (Universal) Tom Stern
"The Curious Case of Benjamin Button" (Paramount and Warner Bros.) Claudio Miranda
"The Dark Knight" (Warner Bros.) Wally Pfister
"The Reader" (The Weinstein Company) Chris Menges and Roger Deakins
"Slumdog Millionaire" (Fox Searchlight) Anthony Dod Mantle

Achievement in costume design
"Australia" (20th Century Fox) Catherine Martin
"The Curious Case of Benjamin Button" (Paramount and Warner Bros.) Jacqueline West
"The Duchess" (Paramount Vantage, Pathé and BBC Films) Michael O'Connor
"Milk" (Focus Features) Danny Glicker
"Revolutionary Road" (DreamWorks, Distributed by Paramount Vantage) Albert Wolsky

Achievement in directing
"The Curious Case of Benjamin Button" (Paramount and Warner Bros.) David Fincher
"Frost/Nixon" (Universal) Ron Howard
"Milk" (Focus Features) Gus Van Sant
"The Reader" (The Weinstein Company) Stephen Daldry
"Slumdog Millionaire" (Fox Searchlight) Danny Boyle

Best documentary feature
"The Betrayal (Nerakhoon)" (Cinema Guild)
A Pandinlao Films Production Ellen Kuras and Thavisouk Phrasavath
"Encounters at the End of the World" (THINKFilm and Image Entertainment)
A Creative Differences Production Werner Herzog and Henry Kaiser
"The Garden"
A Black Valley Films Production Scott Hamilton Kennedy
"Man on Wire" (Magnolia Pictures)
A Wall to Wall Production James Marsh and Simon Chinn
"Trouble the Water" (Zeitgeist Films)
An Elsewhere Films Production Tia Lessin and Carl Deal

Best documentary short subject
"The Conscience of Nhem En"
A Farallon Films Production Steven Okazaki
"The Final Inch"
A Vermilion Films Production Irene Taylor Brodsky and Tom Grant
"Smile Pinki"
A Principe Production Megan Mylan
"The Witness - From the Balcony of Room 306"
A Rock Paper Scissors Production Adam Pertofsky and Margaret Hyde

Achievement in film editing
"The Curious Case of Benjamin Button" (Paramount and Warner Bros.) Kirk Baxter and Angus Wall
"The Dark Knight" (Warner Bros.) Lee Smith
"Frost/Nixon" (Universal) Mike Hill and Dan Hanley
"Milk" (Focus Features) Elliot Graham
"Slumdog Millionaire" (Fox Searchlight) Chris Dickens

Best foreign language film of the year
"The Baader Meinhof Complex" A Constantin Film Production - Germany
"The Class" (Sony Pictures Classics) A Haut et Court Production - France
"Departures" (Regent Releasing) A Departures Film Partners Production - Japan
"Revanche" (Janus Films) A Prisma Film/Fernseh Production - Austria
"Waltz with Bashir" (Sony Pictures Classics) A Bridgit Folman Film Gang Production - Israel

Achievement in makeup
"The Curious Case of Benjamin Button" (Paramount and Warner Bros.) Greg Cannom
"The Dark Knight" (Warner Bros.) John Caglione, Jr. and Conor O'Sullivan
"Hellboy II: The Golden Army" (Universal) Mike Elizalde and Thom Floutz

Achievement in music written for motion pictures (Original score)
"The Curious Case of Benjamin Button" (Paramount and Warner Bros.) Alexandre Desplat
"Defiance" (Paramount Vantage) James Newton Howard
"Milk" (Focus Features) Danny Elfman
"Slumdog Millionaire" (Fox Searchlight) A.R. Rahman
"WALL-E" (Walt Disney) Thomas Newman

Achievement in music written for motion pictures (Original song)
"Down to Earth" from "WALL-E" (Walt Disney) Music by Peter Gabriel and Thomas Newman
Lyric by Peter Gabriel
"Jai Ho" from "Slumdog Millionaire" (Fox Searchlight) Music by A.R. Rahman
Lyric by Gulzar
"O Saya" from "Slumdog Millionaire" (Fox Searchlight) Music and Lyric by A.R. Rahman and Maya Arulpragasam

Best motion picture of the year
"The Curious Case of Benjamin Button" (Paramount and Warner Bros.)
"Frost/Nixon" (Universal)
"Milk" (Focus Features)
"The Reader" (The Weinstein Company)
"Slumdog Millionaire" (Fox Searchlight)

Best animated short film
"La Maison en Petits Cubes"
A Robot Communications Production Kunio Kato
"Lavatory - Lovestory"
A Melnitsa Animation Studio and CTB Film Company Production Konstantin Bronzit
"Oktapodi" (Talantis Films)
A Gobelins, L'école de l'image Production Emud Mokhberi and Thierry Marchand
"Presto" (Walt Disney)
A Pixar Animation Studios Production Doug Sweetland
"This Way Up" A Nexus Production Alan Smith and Adam Foulkes

Best live action short film
"Auf der Strecke (On the Line)" (Hamburg Shortfilmagency)
An Academy of Media Arts Cologne Production Reto Caffi
"Manon on the Asphalt" (La Luna Productions)
A La Luna Production Elizabeth Marre and Olivier Pont
"New Boy" (Network Ireland Television)
A Zanzibar Films Production Steph Green and Tamara Anghie
"The Pig"
An M & M Production Tivi Magnusson and Dorte Høgh
"Spielzeugland (Toyland)"
A Mephisto Film Production Jochen Alexander Freydank

Achievement in sound editing
"The Dark Knight" (Warner Bros.) Richard King
"Iron Man" (Paramount and Marvel Entertainment) Frank Eulner and Christopher Boyes
"Slumdog Millionaire" (Fox Searchlight) Tom Sayers
"WALL-E" (Walt Disney) Ben Burtt and Matthew Wood
"Wanted" (Universal) Wylie Stateman

Achievement in sound mixing
"The Curious Case of Benjamin Button" (Paramount and Warner Bros.) David Parker, Michael Semanick, Ren Klyce and Mark Weingarten
"The Dark Knight" (Warner Bros.) Lora Hirschberg, Gary Rizzo and Ed Novick
"Slumdog Millionaire" (Fox Searchlight) Ian Tapp, Richard Pryke and Resul Pookutty
"WALL-E" (Walt Disney) Tom Myers, Michael Semanick and Ben Burtt
"Wanted" (Universal) Chris Jenkins, Frank A. Montaño and Petr Forejt

Achievement in visual effects
"The Curious Case of Benjamin Button" (Paramount and Warner Bros.) Eric Barba, Steve Preeg, Burt Dalton and Craig Barron
"The Dark Knight" (Warner Bros.) Nick Davis, Chris Corbould, Tim Webber and Paul Franklin
"Iron Man" (Paramount and Marvel Entertainment) John Nelson, Ben Snow, Dan Sudick and Shane Mahan

Adapted screenplay
"The Curious Case of Benjamin Button" (Paramount and Warner Bros.) Screenplay by Eric Roth
Screen story by Eric Roth and Robin Swicord
"Doubt" (Miramax) Written by John Patrick Shanley
"Frost/Nixon" (Universal) Screenplay by Peter Morgan
"The Reader" (The Weinstein Company) Screenplay by David Hare
"Slumdog Millionaire" (Fox Searchlight) Screenplay by Simon Beaufoy

Original screenplay
"Frozen River" (Sony Pictures Classics) Written by Courtney Hunt
"Happy-Go-Lucky" (Miramax) Written by Mike Leigh
"In Bruges" (Focus Features) Written by Martin McDonagh
"Milk" (Focus Features) Written by Dustin Lance Black
"WALL-E" (Walt Disney) Screenplay by Andrew Stanton, Jim Reardon
Original story by Andrew Stanton, Pete Docter

ISiddiqui 01-22-2009 09:19 AM

"The Reader" beating out "The Dark Knight" is a huge shock as most publications had TDK as a lock. I'm glad Benjamin Button got 13 nods. It's my Best Picture winner so far (though I haven't seen Slumdog)

Maple Leafs 01-22-2009 09:19 AM

No Dark Knight for Best Picture... that has to crush the producers of the show, it could cost about 10 ratings points.

Surprised Springsteen didn't get a Best Song nomination for the Wrestler.

Ronnie Dobbs2 01-22-2009 09:21 AM

TDK fanboys creep me out, so it missing out is ok in my book.

Dr. Sak 01-22-2009 09:22 AM

Does anyone else agree with me that Brad Pitt seems to play the same character in every movie he does?

ISiddiqui 01-22-2009 09:25 AM

Yeah, Benjamin Button was exactly like his character in Burn After Reading or Ocean's Eleven or Assassination of Jesse James ;).

Dr. Sak 01-22-2009 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 1928493)
Yeah, Benjamin Button was exactly like his character in Burn After Reading or Ocean's Eleven or Assassination of Jesse James ;).


Hah! That's not exactly what I meant. I guess I didn't word it right, but I feel like he plays the same sort of role in every movie he does. I don't know, maybe I am just high off of all the medicine I am taking.

Abe Sargent 01-22-2009 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 1928492)
Does anyone else agree with me that Brad Pitt seems to play the same character in every movie he does?


I think if you compare 12 Monkeys to Troy, you get different characters.

samifan24 01-22-2009 09:31 AM

No "Dark Knight" for Best Picture and no "Gran Torino" anywhere. What a joke.

ISiddiqui 01-22-2009 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 1928494)
Hah! That's not exactly what I meant. I guess I didn't word it right, but I feel like he plays the same sort of role in every movie he does. I don't know, maybe I am just high off of all the medicine I am taking.


I'm going to go for high ;).

But seriously, Pitt has played a vast variety of roles in his career. Here is a few movies he's had a large role in:

Interview with a Vampire
Se7en
Snatch
Seven Years in Tibet
Fight Club
Ocean's Eleven
Troy
The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
Burn After Reading
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button

I'd have to say that Benjamin Button is unlike any other role he's played in his career.

Butter 01-22-2009 09:36 AM

Was kinda hoping WALL-E would sneak in for Best Picture. Only one of those I've seen so far is Benjamin Button, and there is no way that should win.

Lathum 01-22-2009 09:40 AM

Leo and Kate got snubbed pretty hard

As well as Eastwood.

Abe Sargent 01-22-2009 09:50 AM

I didn't think Changeling was that good, nor was Angelina that amazing or anything.

Maple Leafs 01-22-2009 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69 (Post 1928504)
Was kinda hoping WALL-E would sneak in for Best Picture. Only one of those I've seen so far is Benjamin Button, and there is no way that should win.

Are animated movies even allowed in the Best Picture category?

PackerFanatic 01-22-2009 09:52 AM

The Curious Case of Forrest Gump from FGump44

Lorena 01-22-2009 09:54 AM

Anyone know why The Dark Knight was nominated for "Best foreign language film of the year"?

Lorena 01-22-2009 09:55 AM

eh, strike that, didn't notice it was a different category.

PackerFanatic 01-22-2009 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Lorena (Post 1928519)
eh, strike that, didn't notice it was a different category.


Ah I had wondered the same thing...makes more sense after second glance, haha.

PurdueBrad 01-22-2009 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by PackerFanatic (Post 1928515)


Very nice! Got a good laugh off of it.

flere-imsaho 01-22-2009 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 1928489)
I'm glad Benjamin Button got 13 nods. It's my Best Picture winner so far (though I haven't seen Slumdog)


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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 1928493)
Yeah, Benjamin Button was exactly like his character in Burn After Reading or Ocean's Eleven or Assassination of Jesse James ;).


In general I think you have a choice of Funny and Cool Brad Pitt (Burn After Reading, Oceans XX, etc...), Moody and Introspective Brad Pitt (Assassination, Meet Joe Black, Troy, etc...) or sometimes Plain Crazy Brad Pitt (12 Monkeys). But you always have Brad Pitt.

I don't mean that as a knock. I happen to enjoy watching him and also George Clooney, who has a similar lack of range. But neither of these guys are Daniel Day-Lewis or (more recently) Josh Brolin.

PurdueBrad 01-22-2009 10:06 AM

I get what Dr. Sak is kind of saying and I have this problem with Leonardo DiCaprio. He still looks 14 years old to me and the acting he brings to each role is very similar (sure, there might be an outlier like Blood Diamonds but for the most part he just seems very static as an actor).

Butter 01-22-2009 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho (Post 1928523)
Spoiler


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stevew 01-22-2009 10:10 AM

I didn't see it but it would be funny if Downey won for tropic thunder. I think it would be ironic but my Alanis detector isn't working this early.

ISiddiqui 01-22-2009 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69 (Post 1928526)
Spoiler


Agreed.

Spoiler

ISiddiqui 01-22-2009 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho (Post 1928523)
In general I think you have a choice of Funny and Cool Brad Pitt (Burn After Reading, Oceans XX, etc...), Moody and Introspective Brad Pitt (Assassination, Meet Joe Black, Troy, etc...) or sometimes Plain Crazy Brad Pitt (12 Monkeys). But you always have Brad Pitt.


Um... isn't that basically every actor then? Someone who can play funny & cool, introspective, and plain crazy is someone who has quite a bit of range.

Besides, his character in "Burn After Reading" was anything but cool. And Jesse James was a different form of introspection than Achilles in Troy. Jesse James was more of a nasty, brooding introspection, a bit different from playing the introspective hero, IMO.

Dr. Sak 01-22-2009 10:21 AM

Ut oh...I think ISiddiqui has a little man crush on Brad Pitt ;)

Lorena 01-22-2009 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 1928531)
Agreed.

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MikeVic 01-22-2009 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Lorena (Post 1928517)
Anyone know why The Dark Knight was nominated for "Best foreign language film of the year"?


That happened to me too. The new category is not on a new line. :)

ISiddiqui 01-22-2009 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad (Post 1928524)
I get what Dr. Sak is kind of saying and I have this problem with Leonardo DiCaprio. He still looks 14 years old to me and the acting he brings to each role is very similar (sure, there might be an outlier like Blood Diamonds but for the most part he just seems very static as an actor).


Don't get this either. We are talking about an actor that has in the last 5 years or so, played lead roles in movies like Blood Diamond, Catch Me If You Can, Gangs of New York, The Departed, and Revolutionary Road.

I wonder if part of this is that is hard to get past Leo's and Brad's movie star good looks. While someone like Daniel Day Lewis can look 'ugly' pretty well (as he did in "There Will Be Blood" - my fav movie from 2008).

cthomer5000 01-22-2009 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 1928492)
Does anyone else agree with me that Brad Pitt seems to play the same character in every movie he does?



No.

Izulde 01-22-2009 10:26 AM

TDK not in Best Picture nomination is a farce.

That said, I think the easiest prediction of the year is Ledger posthumously awarded BSA for his Joker role. Anything else and I think there'd be riots.

cthomer5000 01-22-2009 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 1928514)
Are animated movies even allowed in the Best Picture category?


technically, yes... but i think everyone admits that it having its own category makes it extremely unlikely. It's just like how a Foreign Film can be nominated for Best Picture... i think it happened with Life Is Beautiful a few years ago, right?


Wall-E was pretty solid.. one of the few movies i saw from 2008.

Bearcat729 01-22-2009 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic (Post 1928537)
That happened to me too. The new category is not on a new line. :)


Fixed it. Thought I had got all of them

cthomer5000 01-22-2009 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Izulde (Post 1928542)
TDK not in Best Picture nomination is a farce.


People really feel this way? I mean, it was an OK movie. One of the better superhero movies ever, but it was still pretty silly, overly long, and goofy in the final 3rd.

ISiddiqui 01-22-2009 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000 (Post 1928543)
technically, yes... but i think everyone admits that it having its own category makes it extremely unlikely. It's just like how a Foreign Film can be nominated for Best Picture... i think it happened with Life Is Beautiful a few years ago, right?


Wall-E was pretty solid.. one of the few movies i saw from 2008.


Yep, yep. When you have a seperate catagory, people tend to say, well, it'll get its award. No reason for it to be in both. And before the award started (2001), "Beauty and the Beast" was nominated for Best Picture in 1991.

And yah, Wall-E was pretty good and is on my Top 5 list for 2008.

MikeVic 01-22-2009 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 1928539)
Don't get this either. We are talking about an actor that has in the last 5 years or so, played lead roles in movies like Blood Diamond, Catch Me If You Can, Gangs of New York, The Departed, and Revolutionary Road.

I wonder if part of this is that is hard to get past Leo's and Brad's movie star good looks. While someone like Daniel Day Lewis can look 'ugly' pretty well (as he did in "There Will Be Blood" - my fav movie from 2008).


I don't think Leo is good looking, I just don't like his youthful look in every single movie. I think I actually go out of my way to avoid his movies, and have not seen any of the ones you mentioned.

ISiddiqui 01-22-2009 10:37 AM

You went out of your way to not see "The Departed"?

Your loss, man.

cthomer5000 01-22-2009 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic (Post 1928550)
I don't think Leo is good looking, I just don't like his youthful look in every single movie. I think I actually go out of my way to avoid his movies, and have not seen any of the ones you mentioned.


You don't like film. You need to realize this.

MikeVic 01-22-2009 10:41 AM

I know, I realize I'm missing good movies but I just can't stand the guy and any movie with him in it wouldn't be as enjoyable to me.

MikeVic 01-22-2009 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000 (Post 1928553)
You don't like film. You need to realize this.


I love film, I just don't like this one actor.

ISiddiqui 01-22-2009 10:45 AM

It seems petty. How can you not like the one actor when you haven't seen his best work. You can't just judge him on "Titanic".

cthomer5000 01-22-2009 10:48 AM

Some of my favorite movies have starred actors i have otherwise previously hated or even continued to hate after the fact. I have boundless, inexplicable love for the movie Face/Off, and i absolutely despite both Travolta and Cage.

MikeVic 01-22-2009 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 1928556)
It seems petty. How can you not like the one actor when you haven't seen his best work. You can't just judge him on "Titanic".


I didn't say anything about his work, as I really don't think I've seen anything of his. If I did, I forgot about it. I've never seen Titanic. I just don't like the guy, so I don't watch his movies.

ISiddiqui 01-22-2009 10:52 AM

You don't like the guy... why?

How can you say you don't like the guy if you haven't seen anything of his. I just don't understand at all.

Matthean 01-22-2009 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69 (Post 1928504)
Only one of those I've seen so far is Benjamin Button, and there is no way that should win.


I haven't seen it, but from what people tell me and from what reviews I have gathered, it really doesn't belong in the list. A good movie? Sure. Just not one of the best 5 of the year. I could see switching it out for TDK and being fine with the list.

And Slumdog should win. Why? Because it is written. :D

EDIT: I have a friend who hates Brad Pitt and refuses to see anything he is in. This means he misses out on great films like "True Romance" where Brad has a bit part, but is hilarious in it.

wade moore 01-22-2009 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic (Post 1928560)
I didn't say anything about his work, as I really don't think I've seen anything of his. If I did, I forgot about it. I've never seen Titanic. I just don't like the guy, so I don't watch his movies.


So you don't like him despite never actually seeing him do anything?

Nice.

MikeVic 01-22-2009 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 1928561)
You don't like the guy... why?

How can you say you don't like the guy if you haven't seen anything of his. I just don't understand at all.


I don't understand either. If I could explain it, I would. :) Only thing I can think of is hating the hype of Titanic, and that automatically made me hate him, but I don't know.

MikeVic 01-22-2009 10:57 AM

I think him and Sarah Jessica Parker are the only two actors that I hate when I see them in a movie.

ISiddiqui 01-22-2009 10:57 AM

Oh, and also, the dislike for Benjamin Button saddens me :(

MIJB#19 01-22-2009 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1928506)
Leo and Kate got snubbed pretty hard

As well as Eastwood.

I guess you're not talking about Kate Winslett here? She's up there in the actress in a leading role category.

MIJB#19 01-22-2009 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic (Post 1928564)
I don't understand either. If I could explain it, I would. :) Only thing I can think of is hating the hype of Titanic, and that automatically made me hate him, but I don't know.

Back as a teenager, that was what I thought too. I learned to look past the Titanic hype and find out DiCaprio grew up.

Ronnie Dobbs2 01-22-2009 11:03 AM

I couldn't stand Titanic (forced to watch it on a date), but thought Leo and Kate were excellent in it.

Swaggs 01-22-2009 11:06 AM

Did Gran Torino not fall within the time frame to be included in this year's nominees?

Admittedly, I did not see many movies this year, but I really thought Gran Torino was excellent.

MJ4H 01-22-2009 11:09 AM

My guess is some people just rub you the wrong way. Their mannerisms, looks, speech cadence, style, whatever. They just give you the creeps or whatever. I can understand that, I guess.

cthomer5000 01-22-2009 11:11 AM

All of you who didn't like Titantic... why? It's an objectively good movie. Forget the hype, view it on it's own merits. I'm not saying it's the best thing ever recorded, but it's pretty much undeniably good.

ISiddiqui 01-22-2009 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs (Post 1928576)
Did Gran Torino not fall within the time frame to be included in this year's nominees?

Admittedly, I did not see many movies this year, but I really thought Gran Torino was excellent.


It did, IIRC. It just wasn't nominated for anything.

MikeVic 01-22-2009 11:15 AM

I can't look past the hype. Once people start hyping something up like crazy, it usually disappoints me. If I didn't watch The Dark Knight on opening weekend and formed my own opinion, I probably would have not liked it nearly as much because of all the crazy hyping once the movies was out for a bit.

Ronnie Dobbs2 01-22-2009 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000 (Post 1928581)
All of you who didn't like Titantic... why? It's an objectively good movie. Forget the hype, view it on it's own merits. I'm not saying it's the best thing ever recorded, but it's pretty much undeniably good.


Not my type of movie. Can't think of a single soaring, historical romance that I've enjoyed. I *hated* The English Patient as well.

MJ4H 01-22-2009 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000 (Post 1928581)
All of you who didn't like Titantic... why? It's an objectively good movie. Forget the hype, view it on it's own merits. I'm not saying it's the best thing ever recorded, but it's pretty much undeniably good.


Probably the same reason I don't like 2 lbs of sugar added to my Corn Pops.

Actually, I didn't hate Titanic the first time. It kept my attention throughout. Also, I'm pretty sure it moved a little during the nudie sketching scene. It certainly isn't very fun on a rewatch though. It just seems too sappy, sweet, overdone, etc. It's not what I would call a terrible movie, though, I agree with you.

larrymcg421 01-22-2009 11:39 AM

I don't dislike Benjamin Button. I thought it was a good movie, but it is basically a darker rehash of Forrest Gump, from the very same screenwriter. It did not deserve the nomination over Dark Knight.

As for WALL-E, it hsould've been nominated also, but with the animated category, I doubt we'll ever see an animated movie getting nominated again.

Butter 01-22-2009 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000 (Post 1928581)
All of you who didn't like Titantic... why? It's an objectively good movie. Forget the hype, view it on it's own merits. I'm not saying it's the best thing ever recorded, but it's pretty much undeniably good.


It was HARD to view that thing on its own merit. But once I was able to get past all the trappings, YEARS after its release, I can say that I enjoyed it. But I will probably never watch it again. Too long.

Ronnie Dobbs2 01-22-2009 11:43 AM

why don't you tell us how you really feel

Lorena 01-22-2009 12:09 PM

Post whore :p

I'm with Butter. I tend to enjoy movies after all the hype has died down or after a second viewing after the hype has died down. The Dark Knight was more enjoyable after the second time around. There are movies though that after the second and third time around, they still suck. Ahem, The Gangs of NY.

wade moore 01-22-2009 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69 (Post 1928620)
Can someone delete all the preceding posts? My keyboard got hung up on the submit reply button, sorry.

You know you can delete your own posts, right?

Butter 01-22-2009 12:22 PM

For some reason, I thought only mods could delete posts. I guess that's threads. Or not. Whatever. Fixed. Thanks, wade moore.

wade moore 01-22-2009 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69 (Post 1928653)
For some reason, I thought only mods could delete posts. I guess that's threads. Or not. Whatever. Fixed. Thanks, wade moore.

NP - that is threads. Only mods can delete threads, anyone (except maybe jbmagic) can delete posts.

JediKooter 01-22-2009 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000 (Post 1928581)
All of you who didn't like Titantic... why? It's an objectively good movie. Forget the hype, view it on it's own merits. I'm not saying it's the best thing ever recorded, but it's pretty much undeniably good.


I knew how it ended decades before it came out.

Lathum 01-22-2009 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MIJB#19 (Post 1928569)
I guess you're not talking about Kate Winslett here? She's up there in the actress in a leading role category.


hmm, guess I missed it reading them at 7:00 AM.

I was just surprised, usualy the GG's are a precursor to the Oscars.

I also though Gran Torino should have gotten a best picture nod, I thought it was amazing.

I also agree TDK shuldn't have gotten anything, it was a good superhero movie.

PackerFanatic 01-22-2009 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 1928586)
It did, IIRC. It just wasn't nominated for anything.


I always thought there was a timeframe too, but according to the Wiki, as long as it opens in that calendar year, its fair game. Interesting.

lordscarlet 01-22-2009 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic (Post 1928566)
I think him and Sarah Jessica Parker are the only two actors that I hate when I see them in a movie.


But you never see them in a movie.

Lathum 01-22-2009 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69 (Post 1928653)
For some reason, I thought only mods could delete posts. I guess that's threads. Or not. Whatever. Fixed. Thanks, wade moore.


Only mods can delete threads.

That rule is my fault, sorry bout that.

MikeVic 01-22-2009 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by lordscarlet (Post 1928671)
But you never see them in a movie.


:p You know what I mean. When I hear about them being in a movie. Smart People is probably the only movie I've seen SJP in, and she could've been replaced so easily.

MikeVic 01-22-2009 12:52 PM

The only way I'll see Leo in a movie and give him a shot is if he's in a movie with some other actress I really like or something. That's the only way I can see it.

Johnny93g 01-22-2009 12:53 PM

Just a few points, i want to get my opinion out there

- I'm dissapointend Leo wasnt nominated at all. I haven't seen revolutionary road, but i'm a big fan, and I thought he deserved to win for the Aviator.

- On the same subject, I used to hate Leo. I thought he was just eye candy for the teenage girls. I then saw Gangs of NY, then i saw basketball diaries, then this boy's life, then the aviator, and i could go on. He consistantly puts out great movies.

- Brad Pitt deserves his nomination, but i don't think he has a chance. I'll be dissapointed if Mickey Rourke doesnt win.

-I was hoping to see the Wrestler get a best movie nom, but didnt expect it.

-Gran Torino is a good movie, i enjoyed it quite a bit, but it isnt a best picture type movie. There are too many holes in it.

- I dont generally like Angelina Jolie as an actress. Her roles haven't really appealed to me, but i thouht she was excellent in the Changling, and i'll be rooting for her for that role.

- Shocked Springsteen wasn't nominated for the Wrestler. Great song.

- Glad the Dark Knight wasnt nominated for best picture. Isn't as good as the hype imo. Good movie, great blockbuster, thats it.

lordscarlet 01-22-2009 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic (Post 1928682)
The only way I'll see Leo in a movie and give him a shot is if he's in a movie with some other actress I really like or something. That's the only way I can see it.


So you won't watch an excellent actor because he's a pretty boy, but maybe you'll watch him in a movie if there's a hot (I mean.. talented) actress in it with him?

Pyser 01-22-2009 12:59 PM

the reader was an awful movie. really snubbed the wrestler there, i thought.

dont miss tdk at all. it got plenty of noms where it deserved them.

Dr. Sak 01-22-2009 01:01 PM

I don't understand why you all are giving MikeVic such a hard time. He doesn't like the guy. YOU might think he's a good (great perhaps) actor but he just doesn't want to watch movies he is in.

ISiddiqui 01-22-2009 01:05 PM

He doesn't like the for no discernable reason. I tend to give people a hard time for their prejudices ;).

cthomer5000 01-22-2009 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 1928690)
I don't understand why you all are giving MikeVic such a hard time. He doesn't like the guy. YOU might think he's a good (great perhaps) actor but he just doesn't want to watch movies he is in.


I don't think any of us is failing to understand what's happening here - and all you've done is re-type it. Good job.

We're basically just subtly or not-so-subtly calling him a moron for claiming to like film and then failing to watch a majority of the better/best movies that have been released in the past decade due to the fact that he doesn't like an actor that he's never even watched in the first place.

ISiddiqui 01-22-2009 01:17 PM

Holy overreaction Batman!

Dr. Sak 01-22-2009 01:19 PM

Yea sorry. My apologies. I'll delete it.

Lorena 01-22-2009 01:21 PM

Sak, you shouldn't have deleted it. You were just reacting to ct calling MikeVic a moron. So he doesn't like Dicaprio, big deal, that's no reason to call someone a moron.

ISiddiqui 01-22-2009 01:25 PM

Calling him a moron is a bit of an overreaction as well, but minorly so. However, it is very, very wierd behavior, IMO.

Scoobz0202 01-22-2009 01:29 PM

Pretty shocked at how The Wrestler was snubbed, for both the motion picture and best song. What a joke...

I also do not get the love for Frost/Nixon. I didn't think it was that great...

Surtt 01-22-2009 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lordscarlet (Post 1928687)
So you won't watch an excellent actor because he's a pretty boy, but maybe you'll watch him in a movie if there's a hot (I mean.. talented) actress in it with him?



Isn't this the way most Movies are made?
It isn't an accident that most actresses are hotter then they are talented.

Lathum 01-22-2009 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000 (Post 1928694)
I don't think any of us is failing to understand what's happening here - and all you've done is re-type it. Good job.

We're basically just subtly or not-so-subtly calling him a moron for claiming to like film and then failing to watch a majority of the better/best movies that have been released in the past decade due to the fact that he doesn't like an actor that he's never even watched in the first place.


I know right, god forbid we don't give him a hard time for having his own personal tastes :rolleyes:

The reason I genraly stay away from movie and music threads around here are the snobs who think you are a "moron" for having your own opinion that may be different from theirs.

Dr. Sak 01-22-2009 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1928728)
I know right, god forbid we don't give him a hard time for having his own personal tastes :rolleyes:

The reason I genraly stay away from movie and music threads around here are the snobs who think you are a "moron" for having your own opinion that may be different from theirs.


Thank you for putting it into much "rosier" terms than I did.

Ronnie Dobbs2 01-22-2009 01:40 PM

Nobody is saying he's a moron for not liking Leonardo DiCaprio.

ISiddiqui 01-22-2009 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2 (Post 1928730)
Nobody is saying he's a moron for not liking Leonardo DiCaprio.


QFT

Lathum 01-22-2009 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2 (Post 1928730)
Nobody is saying he's a moron for not liking Leonardo DiCaprio.


CT's post said he is a moron for not seeing some of the best movies because he doesn't like Leo.

If he doesn't want to see them thats his buisness, who is CT to tell him what he is missing out on?

Dr. Sak 01-22-2009 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1928737)
CT's post said he is a moron for not seeing some of the best movies because he doesn't like Leo.

If he doesn't want to see them thats his buisness, who is CT to tell him what he is missing out on?


Brad Pitt...not Leo ;)

Lathum 01-22-2009 01:45 PM

whoever.

My point was that, inevitably in these threads someones tastes are isulted or they are called a moron for some reason that is usualy uncalled for.

It would have been eaiser to say " I think you are missing out on some great films and limiting yourself" then to call someone a moron.

ntndeacon 01-22-2009 01:46 PM

Of the three I have seen I have Benjamin Button as my fave. Heck over all my movies I saw this year that is the case. (One of the few times my favorite movie of a year has been nominated) I have yet to see the Reader or Frost/Nixon....Frost Nixon cause it hasn't come out in my area, and the Reader because I havent had the time this week. (it came out in one theatre Friday.) Both as well as Rev. Road are gonna be in town as of Tomorrow, so I should be able to see one or both of them this week.

Ronnie Dobbs2 01-22-2009 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1928737)
CT's post said he is a moron for not seeing some of the best movies because he doesn't like Leo.

If he doesn't want to see them thats his buisness, who is CT to tell him what he is missing out on?


MikeVic says he "loves film"
MikeVic says he's never seen any movie with Leonardo DiCaprio in it because he "just can't stand the guy"
DiCaprio has been in several highly regarded "films" of the last fifteen years
cthomer sees the obvious disconnect here, inelegantly calls him a moron
hijinks ensue

ntndeacon 01-22-2009 01:49 PM

I have to say, that I will seek out most movies with Brad Pitt as he is a phenomenal actor on the whole. The actors I have the most problems with are Julia Roberts and Tom Cruise. (Very few of their performances are any good at all. )

MikeVic 01-22-2009 01:49 PM

I don't dislike Leonardo because he's a pretty boy, and I never said he's a bad actor or his movies suck. He just rubs me the wrong way. I don't go out of my way to see his movies. If friends were to go watch a movie of his, I wouldn't stay home because DiCaprio was in it. But no one ever seems to bring up a movie of his, and since I don't like him anyway, I just haven't seen his movies.

There are so many actors and movies out there that I can nitpick what I want to see.

MikeVic 01-22-2009 01:52 PM

I can still love film and not have seen Leonardo DiCaprio's work. Like I can love music and not have heard a single Beatles song or love paintings and not have seen a Van Gogh or something.

Dr. Sak 01-22-2009 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic (Post 1928755)
I can still love film and not have seen Leonardo DiCaprio's work. Like I can love music and not have heard a single Beatles song or love paintings and not have seen a Van Gogh or something.


I love lamp

MikeVic 01-22-2009 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 1928756)
I love lamp


but you haven't seen these new designer's lamps so therefore you don't love lamp and are a moron. Am I fitting in this thread now? :)

RendeR 01-22-2009 02:02 PM

Alright you whiney asses, Lets cihll out, *I* am the designated OVER reactor here, get off my soap box ;)


Back on topic, I agree TDK didn't deserve a best picture nomination, it got the attention it deserved IMO. Ledger's supporting ator nomination was the only thing I truly believed was a MUST HAPPEN type thing and I tihnk if he doesn't win it its a travesty. easily the single best supporting role all year, the others aren't even close.

I didn't get to see a lot of these but The things I have seen and heard lead me to think slumloard should be winning most of the awards.

Not that I intend to watch the awards anyway, I grew tired of the same old shit from the same old people a long time ago. I'll check to see if ledger wins and thats about it.


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