WW CV: Transformers (D5, day ends Friday 9 PM EST)
 

Transformers: The Werewolf Game

This game is based on the popular toys, multiple television series, comics, and films. Be warned, this game is set-up to be a large and aggressive game. There could be good guys with kill abilities, bad guys with scan abilities, and a third party that you know little to nothing about (except what your history books have told you about The Fallen, that is).

I have worked very hard to minimize the use of random.org here as I felt it took much away from my first game. Therefore, almost all of what you see is driven by player choice rather than by mechanic or website.

Transformer names, while for show/flavor, are oftentimes tied into powers and win conditions. I would discourage a name reveal, as you'll see further down in the rules. In addition, Decepticons and Fallen will be supplied with extra Autobot names and roles in case this occurs anyway. Also, please do not read into the wording of PMs too much as they will be individualized and dramatized for player enjoyment.

There will be numerous things going on at all times, but the deadlines are set up for player convenience.

day deadline: 9 pm EST (must be before 9:01)
night deadling: 9:30 EST (must be before 9:31)

The half hour will hopefully give players a bit more time in making decisions and moves and means you will have to rely on conditionals much less.

Roles: There are three sides in the battle for Earth. Autobots/Humans, Decepticons, and The Fallen

Most players have specific powers. While there is not a traditional seer, bodyguard, cunning, etc., these abilities will appear in some form. However, for most of you to exercise your abilities, you will have to risk being in disguise mode, a weakened state in which, for instance, if you are Bumblebee, you would be a Camaro that night rather than in robot form. By being in this state, there are very large disadvantages, such as a much higher chance of being nightkilled or perhaps challenged/killed by another player. Understand however, your safety is not guaranteed in Transformer mode. In fact, most of you will be unable to do your action if you are in Transformer mode.

Your responsibility:
By 9 pm EST: Vote for a lynch. Failure to do so leaves you in disguise mode. Please submit your vote as such: vote PB

A Tie: A tie will not end as such. In fact, a tie will be decided Gladiator-style, Transformer vs. Transformer. Each Transformer has been given a strength number (unknown to players) to determine the outcome of any fights that may occur (including ties).

By 9:30 pm EST: Enter either a night action or pass on your night action and ask to be left in Transformer mode. Lack of communication will leave you in disguise mode as well. And you can certainly send in orders before this time.

The Goal: Autobots need to destroy all of the Decepticons for a victory. For a major victory, they will want to defeat The Fallen as well. The Decepticons want to achieve a 1:1 ratio with the Autobots for a victory and defeat The Fallen as well for a major victory. The Fallen and humans may have additional win conditions outside of these. Humans will count towards the Autobots numbers and The Fallen will not count on either side of the equation.

Transformer Abilities (taking any action, unless otherwise stated, leaves you in the vulnerable disguise mode that night)
Autobots
1. Scanner 1.0- Determine a player's allegiance if they are in Transformer mode.
2. Scanner 2.0- Determine a player's allegiance if they are in disguise mode.
3. Leadership- Your vote counts for three on DAYS you choose to exercise the action but you are in disguise mode that night.
4. The Savior- You may protect any player except yourself (you can't do the same person in two consecutive nights) but it leaves you in disguise mode. You may get information with a successful block.
5. Challenger- You can call out one person during the day and fight them. This leaves you permanently in disguise mode if you don't die during the fight. The person you fight will either die if you win or be left permanently in disguise mode and be stripped of their powers. You get to do this once.
6. Hunter- You can call out one person during the night and fight them. This leaves you permanently in disguise mode if you don't die during the fight. The person you fight will either die if you win or be left permanently in disguise mode and be stripped of their powers. You get to do this once.
7. Witness- You can follow one person each night and get information on their actions.
8. Searcher- You can search any person for part of the All-Spark. If you find a piece, you will steal it. If you get both pieces, you will earn new power.
9. Brave One- You can argue your way out of a lynch once but you must sacrifice someone else. You will be permanently left in disguise mode.
10. The Borrower- You can pick any player and steal their abilities for the game. This will leave both of you in permanent disguise mode. It is a one-time action but lasts the length of the game. Be warned, picking a Decepticon could lead to some unforeseen outcomes.
11. The Block- You can stop any player from doing their night action.
12. The Intuitive- You can scan one player each day to try and find The Fallen.
13. The Guard- You can scan a player each night to see if they are in Transformer or disguise mode.
14. The Resourceful- If scanned by The Fallen, you will automatically kill them. This leaves you in permanent disguise mode.
15. The Sacrificer- If nightkilled, you may leave behind evidence of who killed you.
16/17. The Twins- You may communicate between each other via PM but if one is lynched (note, NOT nightkilled), then you will both die.
18/19. The Humans- You know Bumblebee's identity but only win if you keep him alive. Mikaela has the power to rally him back from one kill although there may be serious consequences. In other words, if Bumblebee is killed and Mikaela is alive (and chooses to exercise her power), Bumblebee will be resurrected immediately. This power can be used only once.
20. The Resurrectionist- This character has the ability resurrect a person immediately after lynching. However, this action must be submitted prior to that lynch and is irreversible. The lynched person's identity will be uncovered as will the person who revives them. Both will be permanently left in disguise mode.
21. ???

Decepticons- The nightkiller is left in disguise mode. The kill order goes, as long as they all survive, Brutal, Thief, Powerful, Stalker, and reset.

1. Brutal- When lynched, you take any player of your choosing with you.
2. Thief- When lynched, you can steal the powers from any player of your choosing and leave them permanently in disguise mode.
3. Powerful- You can kill any player during your nightkill, regardless of if they are in Transformer or disguise mode.
4. Collector- You can search for a piece of the All-Spark. If you find one, you will steal it. Get both and you will be given an important choice. You cannot do a nightkill unless there are no other eligible Decepticons.
5. Stalker- You can scan a player and, if disguised, you can find out their role. You are also the cunning wolf.
6. Slut- You can block the action of any player. If you choose Sam Witwicky, you will kill him on site but be exposed in game. You cannot do any other nightkill unless there are no other eligible Decepticons.

The Fallen
1. The Fallen- To win, you simply must outlive The Powerful (Decepticon role) and the Savior (Autobot role). You can scan each night for one. You get a one time nightkill that you can use the next night after finding one of them (you must get a positive scan first).


This is the generic Autobot PM: You are an Autobot. Your name is _________. Your role is ________.

Transformers that may appear:

Autobots/Humans
Optimus Prime
BumbleBee
Ironhide
Ratchet
Jetfire
Arcee
Mudflap
Skids
Sideswipe
Jolt
Wheelie
Jazz
Grimlock
Prowl
Sunstreaker
Roadbuster
Jetfire
Wheeljack
Gears
Windcharger
Grapple
Hoist
Skids
Sam Witwicky
Mikaela Banes

Decepticons
Megatron
Starscream
Soundwave
Frenzy
Barricade
Alice

The Fallen
The Fallen

Signups:

1. Danny, The Fallen (converted)
2. Lathum Frenzy, Thief Decepticon
3. Lerriuqs, Sunstreaker, Scanner 1.0
4. Hoopsguy Mikaela Banes, Human/Autobot
5. Autumn Starscream, Brutal Decepticon
6. Darth Vilus, Jazz, Scanner 2.0
7. JAG Sideswipe, The Hunter
8. Schmidty, Ratchet, Brave One
9. J23, Optimus Prime, Savior
10. Eaglefan Barricade, Collector, Decepticon
11. RendeR Wheeljack, the Searcher Autobot
12. Passacaglia Arcee, the Resourceful Autobot
13. The Jackal, Bumblebee, the Leadership Autobot
14. LoneStarGirl, Ironhide, Challenger
15. KWhit, Megatron, Decepticon Powerful
16. Alan T Grapple, the Intuitive Autobot
17. DaddyTorgo, Jolt, the Borrower
18. GoldenEagle, Sam Witwicky, Human/Autobot
19. dubb93, Grimlock, the Sacrificer

Alternate:
19.5 Chief Rum, Go Bot

Even without that info, I am in :)

in

Edit (I'm allowed to edit before the game starts so hah!)

Your first post answered my questions.

I'm going to have to pass though, deadline isn't that great for me I fear!

in

I've got high hopes for this game based on the concepts in the "Next Game" thread and what is listed above.

In.

I wish I could play, but unfortunately, I will need to utilize my free time to getting my game set, which is right after PB's. I will be following along, though. Looks like a good theme.

Man, two of my favorites sitting this one out! I'm hoping we can get everybody else in and I may drop some PMs to guys that played a while ago.

I'm in.

I am so effing IN!

You can put me down as an alternate. I won't be in at the start unless I get a lot more done on my game set before your game starts, but I might be able to contribute as a replacement if need be (regardless).

So we need a minimum of 27 people I believe, let's get em!

Alright, I'm back for another.

I'll play.

Give me an easy role because my brain hurts.

I'm in.

I'll sign up. My head nearly exploded reading the rules but I'll give it a shot. :)

Hey guys, aiming for either a Sunday role release/Monday start or a Monday roles release/Tuesday start. I'm going to work on some recruiting as well...

so what does megatron transform into, the cannon or the jet?

Where's Mirage? He was my favorite character when I was a kid. If I were able to pick, I'd be him. :)

He'd be a perfect conversion character.

Oh alright, I'll bite. In like a bad broken habit coming back to haunt you all.

Transformers was the only comic book I read regularly. Those were awesome. I'm in.

Depending on tomorrows game I know who my day 1 vote will be

You had more hope for my football team than I did.

I just left Passacaglia in the above quote because he is a UM fan :p

+1

:)

I am afraid this game looks a little too advanced for me. I am in because I know you need players Purdue but I hope I dont screw it up!

I'll play

Honestly, rules look harder than they should (and I think that is my fault). I think you'll do great actually.

Games always look tougher than they are, I am sure a day or two in we will get the hang of the mechanics.

But I'll be voted off by then... :(

I'll play.

just 15? Let's try this then, "You will sign up for Transformers: Th Werewolf Game. You will be more than happy to recruit others to the game as well. When you play YOU WILL NOT VOTE DARTH VILUS".

But the game's not over yet... :)

Of course, as I type this the Giants seemed to think they didn't need to cover Jackson.

HA! I'm hoping to score another three or four people, we'll see. I sent out a couple invitations this morning.

i'll be in

In.

Likely going to send out roles tonight with one caveat. Tomorrow afternoon/evening I teach at NIU which does not allow me access from basically 5 pm EST to 8 pm EST (meaning I'll be out of touch for 3 of the 4 1/2 hours prior to the deadline). I don't think it'll be a problem but I'll do my best to answer any questions in advance.

I went ahead and had PB add me since he needed more folks. I told him in PM, but will say here as well before the roles go out that I'm super slammed at work right now these days. (I worked 25 hours straight from Friday morning 4:30am until Saturday morning 5:30am this week for instance). So don't take my lack of involvement at times in the game as a sign of me trying to play under the radar. I don't know how to play under the radar.

Vote alant

your lack of participation is suspicious

I will add to the numbers. The time I will be able to dedicate to this game is nowhere near what I am accustomed to. With that said I want in.

Thanks dubb! I'm prepping everything now and will have stuff going out around 8 pm CST.

to early for me to vote Eaglefan?

OK, for those who have seen the movie - what do I need to know from there that I won't (sort of) recall from the cartoons back in the 80's?

If he votes like Eli plays he'll probably end up voting for himself... :D :devil:

good question. i haven't watched the movies and don't have a clue what "the fallen" are.

Can we middle and end with that too?

All right, well I'm here. I'm pretty much gone for the night here but should be around a fair amount tomorrow. This will be fun.

haha

So The Fallen are both? My only experience is the comic books, and my memories of the TV shows from over 20 years ago.

I'm here.

VOTE ALANT

Because he didn't play in my game. :)

Yeah, Primes are the same race as the Autobots and Decepticons, they were good, preserved worlds, etc except for the one known as The Fallen. He looked to destroy and gain power.

what's up? i got my role

Checking in. I see that I already have a vote. That was record time for me!

Anyways, I'm out until tomorrow.

vote Schmidty

Pretty poor reason for a vote.

It's day one. I was joking. But I'll agree with you. :)

Unvote AlanT

Vote EagleFan

1st poor reason, then becoming the first to cast a second vote (and this early). Not a great track record already.

Checking in. Out till tomorrow.

Why?

I don't get it. What's so bad about that? It's day one. I'm a crappy player as everyone knows, so enlighten me as to your reasoning that it's a bad "track record" (as if you can have one after 3 total votes on day one).

Seems to me that you're really latching on to something pretty tightly there EF...

Lighten up. Just pointing out two things that I have seen people come after others for on day one votes. 1st was using a similar type of excuse for the vote, 2nd thing that has caused suspicion in the past has been making a second vote on someone and you just provided the 3rd, getting too defensive about your voting on day one.

I actually think you are clear (though I see where thinking got me last game) as I didn't see you do any of that when you were actually a wolf.

I definitely have to agree. I have never been fond on the person to cast the first second vote on somebody. In past games I have always voted for this person, but this game I am goin to wait it out.

I was really excited to get my PM and see that I had a role, then I checked the thread and realized everybody had a role!

Question : When you are in disguise you are the car correct? And nobody can tell if you are good or bad? Even though in the movie Chevys were good and Ford bad?

Huh? I'm not even remotely mad or worked up. Just asked a question.

Sheesh,

This is the silliest WW "tradition" of all. There is no evidence at all that it's a good indicator of wolfishness. To me, calling people out for it is just an excuse to pin stuff on an easy target.

Remind me to go back to being UTR next time.

Hehe, I loved that from the movie. When you are disguised, you are in car mode and characters might be able to find things out about you, kill you, etc. and it is more likely than if you are in your robot mode. However, if you do a night action, it puts you in disguise mode. Hope that helps!

checking in, go phillies?

I am not part of this game (just a possible alternate), so forgive me if I go off into a side thing here, but this is really confusing.

The Fallen==the first race of Primes
The Fallen==the one robot from among those Primes that went rogue

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I think we have some confusion here.

I went to wiki, the website which knows all (so take this FWIW), and there were two "Fallens" put forth.

Comic version:

The Fallen was one of 13 original Transformers built Primus, who is something like the father of all Transformers. The Fallen betrayed his creator and followed Primus's evil twin Unicron. Unicron and the Fallen fought against Primus and the rest of the created Transformers (got fuzzy here, but I believe they were called the Primes) and were defeated, and the Fallen was sucked into some space between dimensions through a black hole. He was later accidentally freed, and in the ensuing war he started, was destroyed by Primus himself.

Film version:

The Fallen was one of seven Primes (the first Transformers), who were all designated to find systems to build Sun Harvesters to create energon, the energy Transformers use to survive. There was only one rule, and that was that the Primes could not build Sun Harvesters in systems that contain life (the SHs destroy the suns and systems). The Fallen chose to ignore this, believing the Transformers were the ultimate race, and built one on Earth. He gathered other similarly minded Transformers (non-Primes) to his side and formed the "Decepticons". That triggered a war between the Decepticons and the Primes. The Primes won, their former brother the Fallen was imprisoned on Cybertron, and the Matrix of Leadership, the tool which activates the Sun Harvester on Earth, was hidden in a tomb composed of the Primes bodies.

Optimus Prime is the last of those Primes. And only a Prime can kill the Fallen. Megatron is the leader of the Decepticons when the Fallen ain't around, but he acknowledges the Fallen as his master. The Decepticons wear a carticature of the Fallen's face as their symbol.

The rest of it delves more into what happens in the movie (some of which I revealed here), and I doubt it's necessary to get further into it and at the same time reveal the movie plot and what not. Just in case anyone wants to see it who hasn't.

I agree about this being silly.

That's the version I went with despite much preferring the comic book version. The Fallen here won't have the same kill conditions although it was something I considered. I just felt it overpowered that role to make The Fallen killable by only two characters.

Unless I'm missing something, the only thing that I can see in the rules that you're protected from is the Scanner 2.0. I'm guessing that I'm missing something since there doesn't seem to be any advantage for the Transformers to stay "in disguise". In fact, looking at the Stalker role, it seems better to not be in disguise since it says they only find out the role if disguised.

I think you meant to say " if you do a night action it puts you in disguise mode" not robot mode.

also, i dont think the 7 primes in the movie were part of something called the fallen, i think The fallen just refers to the transformer who "fell", as in go over to the dark side.

Most players won't be able to use their actions unless they go into disguise mode.

oh and just warning everyone, i have to be at work by 4:00 Est tomorrow so I'll have to vote early and then won't be around for awhile.

I finally read through the rules. Game is not too bad in complexity with the only real ? being how the disguise mode aspect will work. Also since we have 19 players, normally a breakdown of 14 autobots, 4 decepticons and 1 fallen would make sense. But because of all the roles, I'd say there is a decent chance it is actually 13 autobots, 5 decepticons and 1 fallen.

Checking in. Its been awhile, be gentle with me *meep*

Thanks, and corrected.

Out of curiosity, have you checked to see how well that strategy has worked out for you?

I agree with this -- I see it as basically being a form of being UTR. Which I won't remind you to do, Schmidty, even though I also think that voting for someone just because they challenge you in the slightest is another form of being UTR -- basically giving yourself the out to say "well he was attacking me" rather than having to put yourself out there for something.

I guess this is the section that I had missed initially. Are the mechanics behind this hidden I take it? By reading this, it seems if we don't use our powers, we have a chance of surviving a nightkill order?

This is true, there is a greater chance of surviving a nightkill but it means you pass on using your power. This was originally going to be completely hidden but in laying out the Powerful wolf's powers, it is easy to infer that there is a mechanic at work.

I have to go, I will be at work until about 30 minutes before deadline, so will place a vote now just in case

I picked him because he tends to be a quiet player and usually avoids suspicion early on in games.

All right, thanks for not talking too much overnight guys. It's hard to say what the numbers would be, since there's some percentage chance, and we don't know how much, of surviving a night kill, not to mention our other powers. It should be interesting.

I should be around fairly often so I'll hold on to my vote for now.

I would like to vote PurdueBrad for failing to number the list of sign-ups. Am I seriously expected to count for myself how many players there are? Epic fail.

Usually on day 1, I try to see what I can tell about people from their posts. Try to get a feel and vote with that. If I don't really pick up on anything, I just go with someone who hadn't checked in as default.

Since I'm not sure of my availability today, I need to go ahead and get a vote in. I don't really have a great place to put my day 1 vote, so will go with the person who made me think the most about their posts so far.

It was proven long ago that the second vote on someone on day 1 historically has been a far higher percentage of being a villager than a wolf. (To go along with historically there are far more villagers than wolves on day 1 anyways). Eaglefan used this logic earlier as he subtly threw it out as a reason why Schmidty looked bad.

Now, I'm not used to having wolves come out and try to ruffle me up on day 1 or try to draw my attention by putting an early vote on me like Schmidty did, so I guess I just took it for what it was and left it at that.

I guess I just got a weird vibe from Eaglefan's posts last night. So I'll put my vote there. I know it is a third vote on him and only one other person has a vote thus far, but *shrug* its what I have so I'll go with it. I might be back later, hopefully will. But just in case I don't.

Vote Eaglefan

Just saw this -- I had been avoiding the thread for spoilers, since I didn't watch most of the 2nd half until Sunday morning. On Saturday, I had watched right up until the Illini scored to make it 14-13. I was still feeling pretty good. But wow, what a bunch of crap. You're going to seriously let momentum from a goal-line stand carry Illinois to 31 unanswered points? Jesus. At this point, beating Purdue is probably our only shot at a bowl game, since beating Wisconsin or Ohio State is very unlikely.

Your wish is my command...it is done. Now, GO PURDUE!!!

An interesting post. I may very follow this but I would like to see how things go for a while longer before I cast my vote. I don't really like putting Vote number four down this early on Day one when there's no one else that's close at this point...

PB, are you willing to share a high-level overview on the order of actions? There seem like a few different abilities that could collide and it would be helpful to know order-of-actions in order to interpret results correctly.