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DeToxRox 12-10-2009 07:31 PM

NFL Week 14 - Half the US is lucky they don't have NFLN edition
 
Browns vs Steelers.

Yep.

cougarfreak 12-10-2009 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 2183647)
Browns vs Steelers.

Yep.


Why, so they don't have to watch the Steelers suck?

henry296 12-10-2009 08:28 PM

Completey and utterly disappointed in the Steelers. I know the weather is bad, but I think they have negative yards of offense in the first half...

Logan 12-10-2009 08:41 PM

+32 actually. Do they look like they'll be able to put anything together in the 2nd half?

Tigercat 12-10-2009 08:53 PM

Why did anyone think the Steelers would kill the Browns? On the road on a short week? After losing to an almost equally hapless Raiders team? A Super Bowl win last year doesn't change the nature of the Steelers' struggles this year.

Lathum 12-10-2009 09:00 PM

I'm not sure the whole Thursday night thing works. This is the second week in a row I have forgotten there is a game on.

Logan 12-10-2009 09:08 PM

Doesn't help that the last two weeks have been terrible games that you knew would be boring.

Dr. Sak 12-10-2009 09:10 PM

3 weeks...that Giants/Broncos game sucked too

Lathum 12-10-2009 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan (Post 2183698)
Doesn't help that the last two weeks have been terrible games that you knew would be boring.


True, but I am pretty die hard, I'll watch about any game. I just forgot completely.

Lathum 12-10-2009 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 2183699)
3 weeks...that Giants/Broncos game sucked too


you aren't kidding.

I hope the game Sunday night is better, of course, I'll be in Vegas, which makes everything better.

Tigercat 12-10-2009 09:14 PM

Next weeks NFLN games are definitely a step up, Jags/Colts Thurs., Cowboys/Saints Sat.

Abe Sargent 12-10-2009 10:13 PM

Wow Ben

Abe Sargent 12-10-2009 10:20 PM

Love ta see the Browns win tonight

Celeval 12-10-2009 10:20 PM

Good moments for the Browns have been few and far between, but this was one.

RendeR 12-10-2009 10:22 PM

*cackles*

Go Browns. Just fucking GO BRowns.

LOVE seeing this win. LOVED IT!

Groundhog 12-10-2009 10:27 PM

8 sacks? Really?

Aylmar 12-10-2009 10:30 PM

Steelers are the worst team in the NFL right now. I'm embarrassed that I actually typed a defense of these hacks a few weeks ago. I just loved the shuffling around at the end of the game. No urgency, didn't go to the no huddle, didn't really change things up at all. Arians needs to go at the end of the season. What a joke.

Swaggs 12-10-2009 10:39 PM

As much as I like Tomlin and his staff, it is tough not to pin these last few losses on the coaching staff w/ as close as the games have been and the calibre of teams they have been losing against. Up until tonight (w/ a pretty weak remaining schedule and Polamalu returning), I thought they could pull things together and comfortably get into the playoffs -- now, I think they keep hoping to play tough and win, but they need to see what they have in some of the young guys like Urbik, Hood, the cornerbacks, Sweed, etc.

Aylmar 12-10-2009 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs (Post 2183726)
As much as I like Tomlin and his staff, it is tough not to pin these last few losses on the coaching staff w/ as close as the games have been and the calibre of teams they have been losing against. Up until tonight (w/ a pretty weak remaining schedule and Polamalu returning), I thought they could pull things together and comfortably get into the playoffs -- now, I think they keep hoping to play tough and win, but they need to see what they have in some of the young guys like Urbik, Hood, the cornerbacks, Sweed, etc.


The worst part is the lack of fire. They've been bad before, obviously, but they always seemed to play with some heart. That has been lacking this season. I say again, Arians should be fired at the end of the season. I'd fire him tonight, but that's not the way the Rooneys do things. Can't manage a single touchdown against the Browns? Really? Maybe it's time for Bruce to start discovering his calling in life, because it's not as an offensive football coach.

RendeR 12-10-2009 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs (Post 2183726)
As much as I like Tomlin and his staff, it is tough not to pin these last few losses on the coaching staff w/ as close as the games have been and the calibre of teams they have been losing against. Up until tonight (w/ a pretty weak remaining schedule and Polamalu returning), I thought they could pull things together and comfortably get into the playoffs -- now, I think they keep hoping to play tough and win, but they need to see what they have in some of the young guys like Urbik, Hood, the cornerbacks, Sweed, etc.



weak remainging schedule?

Baltimore, Jacksonville and miami?

Thats not weak.

MikeVic 12-10-2009 11:04 PM

I don't even know what to say. Best of luck to the AFC teams in the playoffs, should be fun this year.

RedKingGold 12-10-2009 11:24 PM

That offensive line is baaaaaaaaaaad

MrDNA 12-10-2009 11:28 PM

This is our Superbowl - that's sad - and I'll take it :)

Julio Riddols 12-11-2009 03:30 AM

Count me in as one of those who really likes seeing this.

Butter 12-11-2009 06:34 AM

That game last night was the best thing ever. They've unleashed hell 2 weeks in a row.

Dr. Sak 12-11-2009 07:50 AM

I love listening to Pittsburgh Talk Radio after the Steelers lose...some gems I heard this morning:

"Tomlin should be fired. Do you think Cowher would come back?"

"Ben isn't getting the job done, I think it's time Dixon gets his shot."

"Limus Sweed should play over Ward."

"This is one of the most depressing days of my life. Last time I was this depressed my father died."

Honolulu_Blue 12-11-2009 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aylmar (Post 2183724)
Steelers are the worst team in the NFL right now.




RomaGoth 12-11-2009 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aylmar (Post 2183729)
The worst part is the lack of fire. They've been bad before, obviously, but they always seemed to play with some heart. That has been lacking this season. I say again, Arians should be fired at the end of the season. I'd fire him tonight, but that's not the way the Rooneys do things. Can't manage a single touchdown against the Browns? Really? Maybe it's time for Bruce to start discovering his calling in life, because it's not as an offensive football coach.


Very disappointing last night. Not much else to say.

flere-imsaho 12-11-2009 09:12 AM

You really have to wonder, at this point, if the Steelers would beat either Tampa Bay or Detroit (who are, I have to think, currently the two worst teams in football).

JonInMiddleGA 12-11-2009 09:14 AM

Atlanta Falcons defensive tackle Jonathan Babineaux was arrested on charges of possession of marijuana with intent to distribute after a police officer said he smelled marijuana in the player's SUV during a routine traffic stop Thursday night. ... The team is aware of the arrest, and Babineaux is set to meet with team offiicials Friday morning.

Babineaux was with another man, 25-year-old Aaron Robinson Minneapolis, who also was arrested. Robinson was charged with possession of marijuana with intent to distribute, a felony.

Babinaeux and Robinson were stopped around 10:45 p.m. Thursday as they drove north on I-85 in Babineaux's 2005 Cadillac Escalade EXT.

"It's cut and dry," Gwinnett police spokesman Cpl. David Schiralli told the AJC. "He was stopped for a traffic violation."

Schiralli said the officer searched the SUV because he smelled marijuana. The officer found three bags containing a total of 40 grams of marijuana, Schiralli said.

In addition to the possession charges, Babineaux is charged with having no tag light and driving without a license and with an expired tag. He also was charged with tinting his car windows too much.


Falcons' Jonathan Babineaux jailed on drug charges *| ajc.com

RedKingGold 12-11-2009 09:23 AM

Ben just got sacked again.

Kodos 12-11-2009 09:37 AM

I wish I could find a good Seinfeld "Sack Lunch" picture.

Samdari 12-11-2009 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedKingGold (Post 2183738)
That offensive line is baaaaaaaaaaad


I don't know. I watched mostly the SU game last night, but when flipping back to the NFL game, I somehow saw 4 of the sacks. On 3 of them, they came AFTER 5 seconds. Any sack after 3.5 seconds in the NFL, its the QBs fault for not getting rid of the ball.

panerd 12-11-2009 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos (Post 2183916)
I wish I could find a good Seinfeld "Sack Lunch" picture.


DeToxRox 12-11-2009 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho (Post 2183885)
You really have to wonder, at this point, if the Steelers would beat either Tampa Bay or Detroit (who are, I have to think, currently the two worst teams in football).


Well they already did beat Detroit, with Culpepper starting and Calvin Johnson out, but it wasn't a blowout and the Steelers didn't look good then.

This slide has been coming for a while.

Passacaglia 12-11-2009 11:55 AM

The Steelers should change their colors to match the Iowa Hawkeyes. Those guys are winners.

cartman 12-11-2009 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 2183988)
The Steelers should change their colors to match the Iowa Hawkeyes. Those guys are winners.


6-7

Big Fo 12-11-2009 03:09 PM

My Dolphins are in Jacksonville this weekend and I'll be making the drive down. I'm looking forward to it, it's been a few years since I saw an NFL game in person and it's a very important game for both teams. Hopefully Miami can maintain their good form (fourth quarter in Buffalo aside) of late.

mauchow 12-13-2009 01:38 PM

lol at the Bungals going for another play deep in their territory only to have it backfire.. winfield makes a nice tackle, forcing a fumble and allowing the Vikings to get another 3 points on the board before halftime.

Eaglesfan27 12-13-2009 01:44 PM

The Falcons just got screwed out of a nice interception.

Tigercat 12-13-2009 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 2184790)
The Falcons just got screwed out of a nice interception.


If you let that go you can just put the strongest DB you can find and have him push WRs out of the way until the DB is in position to make a INT. It is one thing if you push the WR out the way with your shoulder for a second, but the Atlanta DB did it for a good 20 yards. Easy and correct call, even if one hates to punish and take away the good defensive play at the end.

DeToxRox 12-13-2009 01:53 PM

I know the Bengals are a nice story and all but their offense is just awful lately. Carson Palmer has been a huge disappointment.

Tigercat 12-13-2009 01:54 PM

Although I will say Atlanta has had bad luck with penalties since mid point of the 2nd quarter. (Before that all the calls were on the Saints.) Would be nice to see the refs bury their flags for the rest of this game.

DaddyTorgo 12-13-2009 02:01 PM

Patriots are putrid. Brady's gotta be hurting. Whether it's the lack of sleep from the baby (although I find that hard to believe) or the rib/finger (rib supposedly broken) he looks bad. Team just looks listless and without energy.

rowech 12-13-2009 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 2184799)
I know the Bengals are a nice story and all but their offense is just awful lately. Carson Palmer has been a huge disappointment.


It's entirely due to the loss of Chris Henry. There is no vertical stretching to the field anymore.

JonInMiddleGA 12-13-2009 02:12 PM

Chicago now leads GB 14-13 with about a minute left in Q3.
WTF?

SirFozzie 12-13-2009 02:15 PM

Brady is doing on arm strength.. he's still not driving through. Wes Welker.. If he keeps this up.. yes, there's plenty of career left.. borderline HoFer?

JonInMiddleGA 12-13-2009 02:16 PM

Falcons & Saints now tied at 23 with 12:56 left in regulation.

DeToxRox 12-13-2009 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 2184809)
Brady is doing on arm strength.. he's still not driving through. Wes Welker.. If he keeps this up.. yes, there's plenty of career left.. borderline HoFer?


Probably yes for Welker. He will go down as the GOAT as a slot WR imo. He needs 3-4 more seasons like this to be a lock.

Crapshoot 12-13-2009 02:42 PM

WTF Is New Orleans doing? 3 passes with 2:20 left, and than a fake field goal? When they are up by 3 ?

SirFozzie 12-13-2009 02:43 PM

SportsGuy Mentioned that Brady is wearing the rib armor.. The Flak Vest.. he's probably got at least one broken rib

DaddyTorgo 12-13-2009 02:44 PM

yeah. if he's that hurt i woulda rather seen himself take himself outa the game. clearly it's been affecting him (along with the finger and the baby)

Galaril 12-13-2009 02:46 PM

Well one thing from watching the Broncos today they better drafts a whole new interior O line because these guys either suck or need to retire. And god what were they thinking have there power back be a injury prone Buckhalter?

SirFozzie 12-13-2009 02:47 PM

20 catches for Marshall against the Colts.

NFL NEEDS PATCH NAO!

Noop 12-13-2009 02:49 PM

20 catches? Is that a record?

SirFozzie 12-13-2009 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noop (Post 2184826)
20 catches? Is that a record?


Ties it, (T.O. when he was on the Niners, think one other did)

Galaril 12-13-2009 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 2184824)
20 catches for Marshall against the Colts.

NFL NEEDS PATCH NAO!


Yeah he ties single game record. He might wind up with 27-28 catches. But, McDaniels crappy play calling will lose them this one.

DeToxRox 12-13-2009 02:53 PM

Did Carolina really stop NE then rough the kicker on the punt? Christ.

Noop 12-13-2009 02:54 PM

Miami needs to pull this one out.

Hammer755 12-13-2009 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 2184809)
Brady is doing on arm strength.. he's still not driving through. Wes Welker.. If he keeps this up.. yes, there's plenty of career left.. borderline HoFer?


HoF is a pretty hearty prediction for a guy with only 3 1,000 seasons and 16 TD's at age 28. He is tough to project, though, since he spent almost all of his Miami time as primarily a return man. But who knows how long the NE offense can run at this pace?

Noop 12-13-2009 02:57 PM

How about those Dolphins?

MrDNA 12-13-2009 02:59 PM

Saints and Colts at 13-0. Utterly amazing.

DaddyTorgo 12-13-2009 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 2184830)
Did Carolina really stop NE then rough the kicker on the punt? Christ.


yep!

Galaril 12-13-2009 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDNA (Post 2184834)
Saints and Colts at 13-0. Utterly amazing.


So, I am wondering if we get two teams to go 18-0 through the playoofs into the SB if that have fans complaining that there is not enough parody in the NFL or something like expanding the NFL playoffs to more teams.I personally would not mind the league adding two more wild card teams.

Galaril 12-13-2009 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammer755 (Post 2184832)
HoF is a pretty hearty prediction for a guy with only 3 1,000 seasons and 16 TD's at age 28. He is tough to project, though, since he spent almost all of his Miami time as primarily a return man. But who knows how long the NE offense can run at this pace?


That is the key for Welker for sure.

MrDNA 12-13-2009 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaril (Post 2184836)
So, I am wondering if we get two teams to go 18-0 through the playoofs into the SB if that have fans complaining that there is not enough parody in the NFL or something like expanding the NFL playoffs to more teams.I personally would not mind the league adding two more wild card teams.


I personally think it would be awesome for two undefeated teams to meet in the Superbowl. I don't think I would parody that at all (the word you're looking for is parity :p )

Ronnie Dobbs2 12-13-2009 03:16 PM

The Pats are back, baby!

Hammer755 12-13-2009 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDNA (Post 2184838)
I personally think it would be awesome for two undefeated teams to meet in the Superbowl. I don't think I would parody that at all (the word you're looking for is parity :p )


I would love it for the sole purpose of seeing the reaction of the 72 Dolphins.

DeToxRox 12-13-2009 03:29 PM

Chris Johnson already with a 39 yard TD run. He's going for 200 today.

DaddyTorgo 12-13-2009 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2 (Post 2184839)
The Pats are back, baby!


false. still plenty of problems with this team.

Noop 12-13-2009 03:32 PM

As long as its not the Patriots or Jets I am fine with another team going undefeated and winning it all.

Matthean 12-13-2009 03:37 PM

Needless to say the Lions mailed it in today losing 48-3.

DeToxRox 12-13-2009 03:40 PM

Chris Johnson with a 66 yard TD reception.

Pumpy Tudors 12-13-2009 03:40 PM

I am finding comedy in the fact that the St. Louis quarterback is named "Null."

Ronnie Dobbs2 12-13-2009 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2184844)
false. still plenty of problems with this team.


That was sarcasm. The game was pretty putrid save Welker's effort.

DaddyTorgo 12-13-2009 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2 (Post 2184857)
That was sarcasm. The game was pretty
putrid save Welker's effort.


musta missed the sarcasm, but of course i agree

Schmidty 12-13-2009 04:06 PM

I can't believe that I watched the entire Lions game. My brain is fried.

kingfc22 12-13-2009 04:14 PM

Suck it cowgirls.

Glad you can't score from the 1 yard line with 4 attempts.

Radii 12-13-2009 04:14 PM

Awesome goal line stand for San Diego

JPhillips 12-13-2009 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowech (Post 2184804)
It's entirely due to the loss of Chris Henry. There is no vertical stretching to the field anymore.


Not sure about that. I think Palmer's elbow is still messed up. They haven't been able to throw downfield all year.

DaddyTorgo 12-13-2009 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfc22 (Post 2184862)
Suck it cowgirls.

Glad you can't score from the 1 yard line with 4 attempts.


+1

Scoobz0202 12-13-2009 04:26 PM

Fucking Nick Folk... Time for Jerry to send his ass to the unemployment line.

bhlloy 12-13-2009 04:28 PM

Unbelievable stand from the Chargers, especially when you consider who they have left on the defensive line and that the Cowboys are one of the best power running games in the league. And then follow that up with the stand and missed FG 30 seconds later... WOW

Folk has been terrible all year, I don't know why the Cowboys keep him around. Maybe Tubby is just too nice a guy to cut somebody before christmas?

Radii 12-13-2009 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors (Post 2184852)
I am finding comedy in the fact that the St. Louis quarterback is named "Null."


From cbs.sportsline.com

QB Keith Null, a former protege of legendary NFL bust Ryan Leaf when he was quarterbacks coach at West Texas A&M, started out 7 of 8 but has gone 1 of 6 since. Tennessee is currently outgaining St. Louis 132 to 47 in passing yards.

DaddyTorgo 12-13-2009 04:29 PM

the "silent buzzer booth review" thing is bullshit. gonna job the raiders out of a nice completion.

Matthean 12-13-2009 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaril (Post 2184836)
So, I am wondering if we get two teams to go 18-0 through the playoofs into the SB if that have fans complaining that there is not enough parody in the NFL or something like expanding the NFL playoffs to more teams.I personally would not mind the league adding two more wild card teams.


History shows the Colts prefer resting players and making sure they are healthy for a SB run. Note the lack of playoff success for the Colts when they do this. Compare it to when they went full speed ahead ended up winning the SB. Colts admitted they won't do the push this year and face a possible lengthy cruise control mode. The Saints have said they would go for it.

Scoobz0202 12-13-2009 04:38 PM

Interesting. Why would they not go full speed ahead. Do they not put much stock in the sample size of two seasons?

DeToxRox 12-13-2009 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthean (Post 2184877)
History shows the Colts prefer resting players and making sure they are healthy for a SB run. Note the lack of playoff success for the Colts when they do this. Compare it to when they went full speed ahead ended up winning the SB. Colts admitted they won't do the push this year and face a possible lengthy cruise control mode. The Saints have said they would go for it.


We'll see how Caldwell responds to it tho. I think he's gonna keep the pedal down.

Matthean 12-13-2009 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scoobz0202 (Post 2184879)
Interesting. Why would they not go full speed ahead. Do they not put much stock in the sample size of two seasons?


It just seems put of their philosophy that they would rather rest players and kind of not worry so much about W-L at the end if it doesn't really matter. For a team that has dominated for as much as they have, they have one title to show for it.


Radii 12-13-2009 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 2184880)
We'll see how Caldwell responds to it tho. I think he's gonna keep the pedal down.


There was a segment on ESPN's pregame stuff this morning where they quoted him as saying he intends to do things the same way Dungy did in the final weeks of the season.

Radii 12-13-2009 04:54 PM

dola, apparently the info on the colts comes from Peter King:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200.../week12/1.html

Quote:

I asked Caldwell if the Colts would handle the last two or three games of the year differently than they did under Dungy. You're familiar with the national debate about going for the undefeated season. The Patriots went for it in 2007 and got to 16-0, only to lose in the Super Bowl. The Colts have thumbed their noses at it, preferring to be in the best possible physical condition entering the playoffs. That's how Dungy and Bill Polian believed the season should be -- once you've earned home-field advantage, rest your players and be in good position for the second season. Caldwell sounded no different Sunday afternoon when we spoke.

"It'll be somewhat similar to what we've done,'' he said. "Going undefeated was always a secondary goal. I don't think we'll put too much emphasis on that.''


jbergey22 12-13-2009 04:59 PM

Nice job of the Chargers to turn this season around. They looked horrid their first couple of games this year.

Scoobz0202 12-13-2009 05:30 PM

Oh god. D Ware is down for the Cowboys. He was falling forward and rammed his head into an oncoming player. He's been down for awhile. The cart has been brought out.

Get up Ware :(

Scoobz0202 12-13-2009 05:34 PM

He was strapped to the stretcher and put on the cart. he gave the thumbs up.

Hopefully this is all just precautionary and he is alright.

BishopMVP 12-13-2009 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noop (Post 2184845)
As long as its not the Patriots or Jets I am fine with another team going undefeated and winning it all.

Isn't there a 4th team in the AFC East? ;)

EagleFan 12-13-2009 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaril (Post 2184836)
So, I am wondering if we get two teams to go 18-0 through the playoofs into the SB if that have fans complaining that there is not enough parody in the NFL or something like expanding the NFL playoffs to more teams.I personally would not mind the league adding two more wild card teams.


I don't think there needs to be any more teams in the playoffs but I think that 2 18-0 teams in the Super Bowl would be great (if the Eagles can't make it that is). Hopefully that would shut Mercury Morris and the rest of that whiney team up for good.

Abe Sargent 12-13-2009 06:05 PM

THey announced Ware's condition on the loudspeaker

jbergey22 12-13-2009 06:42 PM

Kind of excited about tonights game. Seems like everything else is decided in the NFC except the NFC East and which 1 of these 4 teams will be left out of the playoffs.(Eagles, Giants, Cowboys, Packers)

I think the Eagles are a better matchup for the Vikings so I will be cheering for them.

EagleFan 12-13-2009 06:42 PM

lol, "I would trade a couple of those catches for a win."

mauchow 12-13-2009 06:43 PM

Just as long as the Vikings don't get the Cardinals.. lol

At least it would be at home if that turns out to be the case.


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