WEREWOLF Tribe: Daily Actions Due
 

Day Seven

Camp Status: Rudimentary shelter

Food Stores: No food stored

Equipment: Machete, cookpot.

Challenge: ?

Your tribe:

J23 - voted out Day 2
CrimsonFox - voted out Day 1
SnDvls
TheJackal - voted out Day 4
Greyroofoo - voted out Day 6
Racer
Danny



THE HOTHEAD

J23 is a guy that gets fired up about life, and especially about competition. In his regular life he may be a video store clerk, but he is clearly in Survivor to win and expects to give 110% out there every day. He looks ready to survive and ready to compete. Just don't get in his way.

THE STONER

CrimsonFox has been looking for something to do ever since Phish stopped touring. After applying to Survivor 15 straight times he's finally made the cut. Now that he's here, is he going to play to win or enjoy the beach?

THE SURGEON

SnDvls may not be a rocket scientist, but he is a brain surgeon. Here's a guy who doesn't need the money, but knows what it's like to be on top. We know he has the wits to play the game, but here on Survivor he'll be dealing with more than a scalpel.

THE HUNTER

The Jackal has been featured on the Outdoor Channel and in Hunting magazine for his exploits. Unfortunately for him, he can't bring his big game technology with him to the islands, and there's no production team helping him on this show. Does the hunter have what it takes to make it all on his own?

THE MODEL

Greyroofoo may be the first male model we've had in Survivor history. Depending on how he does, he may be the last. The men in the audience get their fill of eye candy every season, and now it's the ladies' turn. Will Greyroofoo turn out to be just a pretty face or will he find a way to be more than that?

THE ROADIE

Racer carried Eddie Van Halen's amp. What more do you need to know about this guy? He may not see much of the big outdoors from the blue bus, but we all know roadies can do it all. Will he stick around long enough to tell that story about Gene Simmons and the piranha?

THE NURSE

Danny knows how to perform in a high pressure environment, where juggling demanding people and delicate or strenuous work is a routine activity. A nurse has to be able to do a lot of things. But if we're lucky most of them won't happen on Survivor. Will Danny's grit be enough to get him to the finals?

Feel free to post in here. Of course you should only read your own tribal thread.

DAY ONE BEGINS
 

Today begins your first day on the island. You have been separated from the other tribe, given your tribal flag and arm bands. Now here you are on the beach of a deserted island. You have been given a machete, a pot and enough canteens for everyone. The rest is up to you.

You currently have no shelter. You have no fire. You have no food. Your first task will be to decide how to spend your energies during the day.

DAILY EFFORT

Each player has three effort points to spend among the following actions. Choosing the same action multiple times is allowed. You have until 10:30 p.m. EST on Friday to send me a private message detailing how you will be spending your action points on day one.

Work on the camp site: This will help create shelter for the tribe, keeping them safe from shelter and preventing loss of health at night or during storms.

Forage for food: Each contestant of course must eat every day. Food gathered is put into a common pool and used to feed the tribe.

Secretly talk to other contestants: Spending effort in this area allows the player to send private messages to other contestants, three messages for each point of effort. Outside of this players are only allowed one private message per game day, and otherwise must not communicate about the game outside of the tribe thread. In this case the PM period will stretch from 10:30 p.m. on Friday until 10:30 p.m. on Monday.

Watch what another contestant is doing: If you wish to keep tabs on another contestant you may spend some effort to follow them, getting some information as to what actions they took during the same day.

Recuperate: This is the only way to restore health points that you have lost during the game.

Search for a hidden immunity idol: There is no indication that there exist any hidden idols, however there is a possibility that they will be a part of the game.

Miscellaneous action approved by the moderator: Feel free to contact the moderator about spending your effort points on something outside of this list.

First to post besides the mod.

We've been given pot??? Far out dude! Whoa! I think I'm havin a trip right now! I see Trolls...

I hope we kick the villagers' asses! Anyways, I think we should reveal our strengths and weaknesses that are relevant to camp life and the challenges. Doing so I think will help up do better as a tribe and hopefully go into the merge with the numbers. I'll go first.

I have excellent strength. I am good at swimming and staying calm. I really suck in regards to camp apparently.

I'm excellent at food and good at camp.

How much of our PMs are we allowed to reveal? I know in most games it's not really allowed, so I thought I'd ask before sharing too much info.

I'm good at swimmin and gathering munchies too.
I'll help build shelter too as we need that so our munchies don't get wet.

for a brain surgen my skill set sucks. I'm pretty average in just about everything that is useful in Survivor except stamina.

I think building the shelter is probably the most important day one activity. Should I help with that despite being poor at camp or should I try to help gather food?

Also, does anyone have a pair of glasses (my PM didn't say anything about me having any). You can actually start a fire with a pair of glasses and tinder. If someone has a pair, it's an activity we could try to see if Autumn would approve because fire is pretty damn important.

I put in my actions as shelter and find food x 2

DAY ONE CHALLENGE
 

I should be around now until 10:30 or so.

Daily Effort deadline is upon us. After 10:30 you can go ahead and feel free to use any of your allotment of private messages. Remember that these are the only messages you have available until 10:30 p.m. on Monday. One sent message per person, plus three per effort points spent on messaging. Also:

PLEASE INCLUDE ME ON ALL PRIVATE MESSAGES

So that i can keep track of the numbers, and also for my enjoyment.

Also, there are some who still haven't gotten their daily effort decisions in. I'm not going to be a stickler on this deadline since it's the start of the game, and things are still wacky. But please get those in to me as soon as you can.

Who's our puzzle experts? I stink at them. I volunteer to be one of the 4 boat rowers.

I'm average at them. Is strength an important asset in rowing? If so I'm probably better off being a rower.

I'm an expert at puzzles.

I have poor strength, but excellent stamina and good puzzles so I'll go for whatever the team decides to put me at.

I will be better of doing puzzles myself and not one of the rowers.

So going off of what everyone has said so far:

Definitely/Probably:
Rowers: CrimsonFox, Racer
Puzzle: Greyroofoo & Danny

Maybe:
Puzzle: SnDvls (depending on Jackal's and J23's strengths)

Not Sure:
Rowers?: Jackal & J23 (both would have to be if SnDvls is the 3rd puzzle maker).

Maybe Autumn could help with this.

What do our attributes actually mean?

If someone has Excellent strength but poor stamina are they good at a short burst in an athletic competition or would it be better to have someone with a little weeker strength, but better in stamina?

our thread is lagging behind the villagers thread so I'm gonna just post this to up our post count and really freak them out.

I suggest others do this too by just posting a quick...."Post Count" hit whenever you visit....let's play some mind games with them early on :)

"Post Count"

I'm not going to reveal the nuts and bolts of the challenges to that depth, other than to say that different portions of different challenges will require a certain rating or combination of ratings. If you have questions particularly about what I mean by each rating, I'd be glad to answer those.

In this case Strength generally measures brute strength in terms of lifting or pushing or carrying something. Stamina generally means how long you can sustain a difficult activity.

ok so this might change our thinking on how/where we want to put people for the challenge.

Yeah, agreed. I'm guessing endurance would play more of a role in rowing then? I have average endurance and I'm average at puzzles.

Also, if this closely resembles real life survivor, the teamwork rating may also play a large role in the puzzle aspect of the challenge, perhaps even 50/50 with puzzle ability.

You'd think our Brain Surgeon (Sndvl) would be good at puzzles

Should put me on food almost always. Not very good at puzzles.

And yes, put me on rowing over the puzzle, for sure.

apparently I got by on my good looks and have some great malpractice insurance :)

I do have a pretty good "calm" rating...I think it's excellent.

Just to update on what people have said so far.

Rowers (need 4): CrimsonFox, The Jackal
Puzzles (need 3): Greyroofoo, Danny
not sure: SnDvls (excellent stamina & good puzzles), Racer (excellent strength, average endurance & puzzles), & J23 (?)

Worst case racer and I will row forcing j23 for puzzles with greyfoo at excellent I would guess we'll be fine

Anybody have any thoughts on whether or not we should have anyone put extra effort into the challenge and if so, how many people?

Also, if we do, do you guys think it would be better to have average people (like myself) put extra effort into the challenge or people really good at one of the two aspects of the challenge (like Greyroofoo)?

I think it would be really good if we could win this first challenge because it would give us fire. Putting in extra effort in this challenge certainly won't guarantee we'll win, but hopefully it would tilt the percentages in our favor.

Personally, I think it would be good if 2 or 3 people put in extra effort. As far as the second one goes, I think we basically have to guess how Autumn has set up the mechanics of the challenge.

I went ahead and submitted that I plan to be a rower in the challenge (I wanted to submit one in case I forget tomorrow). Hopefully I can change that if necessary. Don't forget guys to submit your actions to Autumn because the rules say it hurts our team's performance in challenges if anyone forgets.

Post count

I checked with Autumn and he said it's fine to send multiple actions regarding your challenge action and that the last one you send counts. So we can switch me or anyone else if need be.

I sent mine in to do puzzles

I'll do puzzles,

also should we organize people for food and camp gathering?

I'm good at puzzles, but only average strength and stamina, so I think I'd be better in the puzzle group

ok put in my action to do the rowing due to my stamina also said to put in extra effort too...this is a must win challenge today

I already stated what I was doing for day 1 if anyone wants to join me that's cool.

Go ahead and submit to Autum that you are doing puzzles then

have you sent in the PM to Autumn already?

So with our three points of effort to use for today, we can put them into the challenge instead of the other activities?

I gathered food the first day, and thinking of putting some towards the camp tonight.

J23, the points you guys have already submitted essentially are for this, day one. Your points you choose tonight will determine what you spend day two (tomorrow) doing.

The challenge is totally separate from these activities. You don't need to spend points on it, but you do need to send in your actions during the challenge to me. You also always have the choice of dogging the challenge (putting in less effort) or putting in extra effort (with the increased chance that you will tire yourself out or injure yourself).

Ah, gotcha. I forgot about the extra effort/chance of injury bit.

Submitting for the puzzle portion of the challenge now.

Submitted Rowers (need 4): SnDvls, Racer
Yet to be Submitted Rowers:CrimsonFox, The Jackal
Submitted Puzzles (need 3): Danny, J23
Yet to be Submitted Puzzles: Greyroofoo

I submitted for doing puzzles

I've put in normal effort for now (average endurance, average teamwork, and excellent strength). If you guys think I should put in extra effort let me know. We really need to maximize our chances of winning this thing because fire is extremely important (also it be great if we didn't have to go to tribal).

Also, I think I've said this before, but I have poor camp skills and average food gathering skills. I think getting camp in order is more important, but should I allocate my points towards food gathering for day two?

let's see what day 1 and the challenge bring first.

I submitted rowing last night, and as you can likely guess I'll be on food a lot of the time

Challenge deadline. I will work on the results and narrate the challenge in a short while.

DAY ONE CHALLENGE
 

I think we may lose this one
we did not organize all the minute details just the major ones

Judging from the loss and the wording of the challenge, it sounds like maybe we send more actions then just who is rowing and who is on the puzzle?

For example, should we designate someone as the leader for the puzzles and if there are objects to grab, who should grab them?

can't hurt

my guess too. Not to sound like sour grapes, but it's crap when that's not spelled out in the rules or in the challenge or even when Darth asked a question that sort of addresses it it's stated the we only need to submit to what part of the challenge we are doing. Kinda pisses me off a bit actually.

Autumn - did everyone PM you with a job/role for the challenge? If not who didn't?

Also will we be required to tell you every detail of every challenge from here on out? if yes please give us all the details of every challenge from here on out thanks (i.e. what is or isn't required to be reported/worked out like we didn't need to gather stuff to build the boat today.) Also if multiple say they will do something (like be the leader or grab an object) who's action takes presidence the first or last person to PM you?

Just want some clarification before the next challenge.

why is maple leafs in our thread????

WTF???

I have a screan cap for proof if needed

SnDvls, yes everybody sent in a PM.

You are not required to send in any particular level of detail. Some of what you saw in the results was a result of the villagers deciding on a detail that you guys did not. Some of it was just a result of the particular ratings involved in the challenge, as I decided to narrate it.

As I stated in the rules, the plan you come up with in thread, how appropriate it is, how consistent the PMs that get sent in to me are all will affect your performance. IN your particular question, if several people messaged me to do the same thing, I would determine on a case by case basis what happens, but that fact would affect the performance of that action in a negative way.

I guess what I want to say is that I wrote up the results the way I did to try to let you know what sort of things might help or harm challenge results, not to suggest you did not do something you should have.

DAY ONE CAMP RESULTS
 

I saw him a little awhile ago in this thread actually. I figured he had accidentally clicked on the thread (I did that once on the villager thread actually and immediately hit the back button) and hit the refresh button a few times and then he was gone. I also saw his name for the second time in this thread just a minute ago.

lol, I gots me a screen shot as well

it's still showing there for me...I don't want to accuse anyone of anything, but he's been in here for a long time

dola - his profile is showing that he's actually now "viewing the thread"

Would sending in a vote for maple leafs be prudent?

Or would it just make me look like a cry-baby for losing the challenge.

LOL

Thought I'd point this out in case anyone missed it. We each probably want to use one effort point on resting so none of us get knocked out of the game and so we don't completely suck in the next challenge.

Also just a guess, but I'd imagine that everyone in the other tribe also lost some health points.

The one thing I'll say in regards to the MapleLeafs thing is that if he had truly had intentions of breaking the rules, he probably would have viewed this thread as a guest. Still he could have been reading this thread not realizing it was against the rules.

I would guess that they all lost 3-4 for the challenge and then depending on their food/shelter would have lost more. Seems like we lost a lot with the amount of food we gathered today. Typically in Survivor food is more important than shelter in the early days, then the trend starts to turn as you are subjected to the elements and become tired from all the challenges you need more rest...just my opinion on the matter though.

I'll openly take suggestions on who to vote out tonight too. I'm leaning towards the standard WW tatic...the quiet ones :)

especially in a game like this where we need a team as there is no true werewolf

SnDvls, I would read it again. Based on what Autumn said, I would say we lost our points from the challenge and our crappy shelter since we apparently have food left over. I should probably devote my points to resting and food since I'm poor at camp (as should whoever is excellent at food finding), but I think most of our tribe should be focusing on recuperating and shelter building.

I put two effort points into shelter so it's a shame we couldn't come up with a better shelter.

Challenge results sucked, but we should have a better idea of how to structure our submitted actions going forward.

I guess I wasn't clear enough. I would think that with the amount of food we found that we would NOT have lost so much health as we could gain some back with the food since we seem to have leftovers.

dola - agree on the shelter building...we really need to sort this out tonight so we have a united front on who is doing what.

I'll definitely be using one point to recuperate.

Any thoughts on whether I should use my other points towards camp (poor at) or food (average at)? I wish I was more useful around camp. :)

Priorities should be recuperating and working on camp. We appear to have extra food.

Guys, I spoke with Maple Leafs. He didn't understand that the tribe threads were private, but upon rereading the rules he understands that they are. He apologizes and that should be all cleared up now.

I'm not sure who to vote for tonight. However, I think we need to have more active thinking in this thread so I'll vote for someone who hasn't said much. I would hate to have to vote off my initial impressions of the people who haven't said much, but as of right now that's how I would have vote as I don't see much else that makes one person a better option to keep then another.

So basically, I really hope everyone starts talking more so it makes it easier tonight's vote easier.

Hi guys,

I just pm'd Autumn to see if we can put effort points towards trying to create fire, specifically using a pair of glasses (if anyone wears a pair) and tinder. On the real life show people have actually been successful with that method before.

Alright guys, this is huge. Hopefully there is nothing wrong with quoting Autumn's PM directly since it's mechanics related.

From Autumn:

"I would certainly allow you or someone to spend points to try that, yes. It seems possible that someone might have the ability to pull that off. Since you are asking, I'll let you know that SnDvl's surgeon is the only tribe member with glasses."

Also, not sure it will make a difference, but for camp tomorrow, I requested that I primarily carry things such as bamboo logs and covering to the camp site since I have excellent strength.

Should I revise it to cutting bamboo (wondering if that is more strength based or camp skills based)?

Interesting. Sorry I haven't been more active, had a busy weekend and I've been sick the last day. I don't have much of an indication of where to vote except that CF seemed to do poorly in the rowing. But I don't know who I'll vote for.

Interesting.

Regarding the vote, I also lean towards voting someone who is less active. It seems going forward we really need everyone to be active and work together to improve on our outcomes.

Personally I don't think I'll be voting for J as he and I gathered a ton of food, nor SnD for the effort he showed, he'll need to recuperate some tonight.

I think I'm out for the rest of the night but I've submitted a vote and actions, will check back late or tomorrow morning

I unfortunately will have to rest with a good chunk of my effort points tomorrow. I received a PM stating that I'd be basically useless in a challenge until I rested up a bit.

I would have been worse at puzzlnig for sure. I gathered food and built shelter, but now that I know more about things I will probably spend ALL my points on shelter tomorrow. I'll be ready for the swimming challenges. Hope they come quickly I'll ace that.

Let's spend as many shelter points tomorrow as possible.

I give anyone that wants permission to use my glasses to start fire

What kind of skill set do you think is best for trying to start a fire with glasses?

If its puzzles then I'm your guy.

Maybe Camp? Maybe being calm? A combination of the two? (another possibility scrappy)

I'll let you guys know, just because I think it may be too vague of a term, that Scrappy in the game refers to physical feistiness, ability to fight for something or fight someone off, for example.

Also, I think it is necessary for it to be sunny out for someone to start a fire with a pair of sunglasses and tinder (I could be leaving out stuff you need to). Whoever tries to start it might want to submit two conditions on how two use their effort points (one if it's sunny and one's if it's rainy or cloudy).

It also might be good for two people to puts efforts towards starting a fire together to increase our chances.