College football - Week 9
 

After a rough start to the game Florida State has scored 21 unanswered points against the Wolfpack of North Carolina State.

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Ill help

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Iowa beats MSU 17-10.

Defense is feeling a little abused. They have ideas of inflicting a painful loss on MSU.

GO HAWKS

What a horrible start for FSU. Hard to believe we're up 2 TDs and have over 200 yards of offense.

Already anxious...

6-1 William and Mary heads to Chapel Hill to face UNC at 3:30 Saturday on ESPN3.

UNC obviously has lost quite a few key players, but a couple of the secondary members that were "suspended indefinitely" return this weekend.

This is homecoming for UNC, but I still feel like W&M has a shot.

I'll be at the game screaming my head off.

Hell yeah! BYU will not lose this weekend...but if they can find a way to screw it up, they will....they have a BYE!

;)

I have a bad feeling about this next game vs Nebraska, but I hope I'm wrong.

+1. Headed to Lincoln tomorrow for Saturday's game. Never been to Memorial Stadium, this is going to be quite an experience.

Awesome. Have fun. Ive heard its a wild place. Give an update when you get back. Iowa starts playing there soon. I would love to make the trip.

FSU and NC St. is crazy. Im flipping between this and Clash of the Titans. Every time i change back someone is scoring

Florida State is weird this season.

It's changed quite a bit over the past few years. They used to be a great crowd, but it's changed quite a bit. Pretty nasty crowd in comparison to what it was 10 years ago.

Yeah that would have been the fun thing about the rumor of Mizzou moving to the big 10. I have been to most of the old big 8's teams stadiums for both basketball and football. I think it would be fun to see some differnt teams live. I think there is something to tradition (especially in basketball) with the old big 8 schools but I really could give two shits about Tech, A&M, Baylor, and even Texas. (And I think they feel the same way about us)

I have found that if I am cool no matter if we win, lose, win big, or lose big that the opposing team's fans are pretty respectful as well. I am most looking forward to what has turned into a very interesting and important game than I really am in the atmoshpere anyways. I think seeing the tradition will be a big plus but could really care less if that doesn't end up being there. I want a Mizzou win, the rest is dressing.

Yeah. I was really hoping Mizzou would be invited. A 1 1/2 hour drive to see Iowa would have been outstanding.
Maybe next round. Mizzou fits the Big10 mold, I think.

Wow, Michigan State reinstates Chris Rucker. I'm a Dantonio fan because I liked him at OSU but he's running a pretty loose ship. It will be interesting to see how the season plays out, for some reason I can see them committing even more penalties.

Yeah, this probably interests nobody in the thread but who cares? KU is about the only team is have any major feelings about not playing but they would still probably schedule us in both sports. I am sure we could figure out a way to play OU, OSU, K-State, and Iowa State pretty often. There is of course the problem with the big ten not actually wanting us in their conference. :)

It's relative. They used to cheer for the other team on good plays and cheer for the other team at the end of the game no matter the result and hold themselves up as the gold standard of fans. Those traditions were lost during the lousy stretch in the middle of the decade.

NC State deserves to lose for a lack of offensive creativity on the goalline there.

Ponder flat out cost us the game I fucking hate him so much right now.

Ponder is a fool

I hate Ponder he is a fucking bum.

Fucker cost me some coin also

A rare occasion where I am rooting alongside you. Also hoping for Missouri and Oregon losses.

Jimbo Fisher needs to get his head out of his ass and realize that what he has on offense right now is a solid rushing attack with limited passing capability and call runs 60 to 65% of the time instead of letting his goddamn weak armed QB throw bubble screens, outs, and drop the ball all night.

He dicked around for three quarters with the pass vs. BC and almost lost the damn game. Tonight, he has a running back average over 10 yards a carry and get 11 carries. 298 yards rushing vs. Miami. Stop trying to be fancy because you're an "elite QB developer" and ram the ball down teams' throats until they stop it.

Well, I now know what it would feel like to be a Kentucky alum. Your football team plays terrible, mistake-filled football for 58 minutes and should have no chance of winning a game yet somehow is in a position to win a huge one, and then a fluke/bonehead play ends that opportunity.

The TE was so open from the moment the ball was snapped that I didn't even see the fumble. I yelled "the TE in the corner!" and then kept watching the corner of the screen waiting for the pass. And it never came.

Those things happen. Frankly, I'm more upset with Ponder for the 3rd-and-short where he didn't cut back up inside to get the 1st down and we settled for a FG than I am for that last play. That was a "Romo dropping the kick snap" type of fluke play. That's why you don't wait around until there's 2 minutes left to try to win a game, because shit like that happens.

Oh well - you knew it was going to take more than a year to wipe the Bowden Influence off this team. That was a post-2000 Bowden game if I ever saw one. Brought back bad memories.

This is what pissed me off the most the fact he could have iced the game with that play and he failed to deliver.

I think Fisher should have gone for it on that 4th down instead of settling for the FG, too. You have a great run offense and your QB could have gotten 4 yards on the last play instead of just 2. Use your advantage and get the momentum back. In that game, the FG didn't feel like it counted for anything.

But didn't you hear Dantonio has a 'zero tolerance' policy?

At least Chris Rainey has learned his lesson.

Reeks of it being about winning versus anything else. I have a hard time seeing how the punishment from the football side of things was justified when he doesn't miss any football.

Looks like Boise State is ramping up their schedule bit by bit. Starting in 2012, they are playing Michigan State in a 3 game deal.

So BSU, ND who can only be improved, and a Big Ten Schedule with Nebraska in it. MSU obviously isn't learning from Michigan taking on 'Bama. :lol:

EDIT: games two and three are in 2022 and 2023.

Odds on those next two actually being played? 1/3?

1 in 8 or lower. The Big TenXII keeps talking about going to 9 conference games in 2015 or so. Guess which games are going to vanish?

Having more ways to watch college football is always a good thing, so I'll support ESPN adding this Goal Line channel...but it would really be nice when they publicize it, if they didn't try to make it sound like they invented the god damn concept.

I thought ESPN invented sports :lol:

I can't wait till ESPN3 or ESPN360 or whatever they call it comes to the 360.

You better hope for a TCU and Utah loss. They face each other on Nov. 6. The winner may jump Boise St.

WVU is just hard to watch this season.

Boise and TCU are not eligible guys. It's just a show.

Really curious to see what would happen if TCU actually joined the Big East. Honestly I think they'd year in and year out be the best team in the conference.

Hard to argue that right now. Patterson would immediately be far and away the best head coach.

We were talking about this in a WVU chat, but it was interesting enough to discuss here (for other conferences, as well). Right now, is there a head coach in the Big East that could find another BCS conference job?

Wanny and Stewart -- no way.
Marrone, Strong, Jones, and Holtz -- maybe in a few of them after a another several seasons, but not right now.
Schiano and Edsall -- maybe a really low level school like Duke, Vandy, or Washington State? They have both shown that they can build a program into respectability, but they also both look like they may have topped out with good, but not great.

This offense is so bad, I don't even think my blood pressure or heart rate increases in overtime anymore. :)

Awesome.

I think I'll avoid the WVU messageboards for the next couple of weeks or so. :)

Big East is pretty wide open...

They are acting like beating an average WVU team is worthy of tearing down the goalposts.

To their credit they have never beaten them and without looking I would say some of the losses have been pretty bad.

Stewart (sp?) has some questions to answer, in pretty much every game I have watched them they haven't looked ready to play.

I think the offensive coordinator and OL coach are gone at the end of the season.

I'm guessing one more regular season loss and Stewart is done. Our fans have never been entirely on board with him after the way he was hired (middle of the night after the Fiesta Bowl win, without having formally interviewed) and I think ticket sales and donations are going to start to decline if something is not done soon.

I hate it for the guy, because he is a super human being and has had some success, but we are backsliding now and I don't see it getting any better.

I basically agree with this. Part of me thinks he will get another year no matter what just because the WVU athletic department hasn't fired a head coach in football or basketball in my lifetime, but the truth is that he's already lost a huge portion of the fanbase and donors, and I don't get the impression that the new AD cares for him much.

I actually have pretty mixed feelings. I'd like to keep the defensive staff together, so retaining Stew with a new OC and OL coach might be the best option, in my opinion. I say that thinking that the list of replacement candidates won't be any better than last time.

If Michigan loses tomorrow our season is probably done. I'd be willing to be next year Rich Rod is back in WVU if that happened. Call me crazy but I can see it.

Weird....Maybe they'll be able to make the road trip telepathically. Or in a rocket car.

The rumor is that RR had already asked for his job back over the summer, presumably foreseeing that he'd likely be unemployed by the end of the season. He was a college teammate and friend of the new AD. I kind of doubt that the big money donors would have him back, but if WVU keeps failing to score 20 against Big East defenses, Rod will look better and better.

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoot...hree-game-deal

Looks like Boise as agreed to play Michigan State.

Now if only they could actually play in a competitive conference.

I hope WVU decides to fire Stewart and hires Bud Foster or someone who won't retain Casteel. Would love the reunion in Ann Arbor.

Only way either of them jumps ahead of BSU is with a Boise State loss. Tend to agree with Rainmaker though, it is all really just for show. No way does the Good 'ol boy sport of college football allow a Boise State, TCU, Utah, etc. into it's hallowed "national championship" club.

Already got it covered.....:D

I am kinda on the fence with Rich Rod as coach. I understand that it takes a complete recruiting class (i.e., 4-5 years) to really see if a completely new system is working or not. But....

Has he only recruited offensive players? I have not seen such a terrible Michigan defense in my lifetime like the one of the past 3-4 years. At the end of the day, Rodriguez is not a Michigan man and he should have never been hired in the first place. I still wish we would have hired Les Miles away from LSU, but our AD fucked that up every way possible.

As per a previous week's thread. One of, if not the most highly regarded defensive recruit for Michigan last year showed up out of shape, not able to crack the line up like Michigan had assume he would, and then he left, but family and such were trying to get him back, but to my knowledge it was all for naught.

I also think part of the problem Michigan's last class was vastly three star recruits. They had a ton of them, but if those guys don't get coached well enough it really comes across as a lackluster class. Current class ranks below the top 25 via Rivals although it was there recently. There's no excuse to be that low when you know the you are so thin talent wise. ND and Stanford are known for huge academic requirements, but yet currently sit at #8 and #9. Michigan does currently have 2 four star defensive players committed.

One of my friends that works for one of our big (biggest?) booster thinks that Rich Rod will be Oliver Luck's top choice. I can't see that happening. There was just too much of a power struggle before he left with too many bridges burnt and I think season tickets and donations would really tank. Rodriguez left at the height of his bargaining position (I think we can agree his star isn't as bright as it was in '07) and I cannot see him being humble enough to come back and deal with the same restrictions (and probably a tighter leash) he rebelled so much against originally.

My gut tells me that it will be Tommy Bowden, which wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if he can retain some of the defensive staff.

As a completely random guess, some folks think that Oliver Luck (Andrew's dad) could try to sway Jim Harbaugh away from Stanford if his son leaves for the NFL. The thought is that Harbaugh thinks it would be easier to build without the academic restrictions that Stanford has and that his relationship with our athletic director would make for a good working environment. I cannot see him leaving a Pac 10 job for a Big East job, though. He will likely have much better options available (NFL? Michigan?) if he decides to leave.

Probably not too far fetched. If Stew does get fired and someone else is brought in as head coach, Casteel could get fed up with being passed over as head coach twice and feel like he may not ever get the opportunity without moving on. I'm not sure he would be too eager to work with Rod again, though.

I really don't see Harbaugh happening. I've heard Luck likes/knows Kevin Sumlin at Houston a few times in the past week.

A guy who has had good stuff in the past (he is close to David Brandon) said if RR gets fired it'll happen because he has his next coach locked up. Considering his relationship with Harbaugh you'd have to assume it'll be him. Honestly though tomorrow will tell the tale. You lose to a bad PSU team starting a walk on QB after a week and you're going to be gone.

Even with a win this week we need to beat the fighting Zooks next week and he should be safe (though who knows, we'll probably get cocky and lose to Purdue)

My guess is if Harbaugh becomes available (Like when Luck leaves for the NFL), Michigan will fire RR as quick as they can and hire Harbaugh.

Have fun!!! I hope you see a W!

Everyone is underrating the Mizzou defense. I'd expect this game to be closer than the experts are predicting.

Something like 24-21 wouldnt surprise me.

Miami receivers with some alligator arms on this first drive.

Jacory Harris looks to be hurt really bad. I don't think he's coming back.

I saw the hit on the small screen on ESPN3. Was a penalty called, looked like the defender hit him under the chin with his helmet.

No penalty was called.

Spencer Whipple, the Offensive Coordinator's son, is in the game right now.

And is picked off in the red zone. Ugh.

Spencer Whipple is not good.

a) I feel dirty rooting for Tennessee. Not that it'll likely help them, either.
b) Marcus Lattimore. That is a beast.

Hey, I post and they score. Maybe if I say they really have no hope, the Cocks will fumble the kick-off.

Helluva hit Jacory Harris took.

Um, wow. Miami puts in their 4th string QB, a true freshman.

It looks hopeless for Miami right now.

Here's how we get to the 4th stringer

1st: Jacory Harris - murdered on the field.
2nd: AJ Highsmith - They're trying to save his redshirt so they can switch him to defense next year. AKA "he can't play QB".
3rd: Spencer Whipple - throws some very accurate passes to 8 foot tall players. Unfortunately, Miami has no such players on their roster.

M'fing Tyler fucking Bray. I literally called that pick six about 5 seconds before the snap (when my son pointed out the QB switch for Tennessee).

For that matter, at this point, Derek fucking Dooley for putting the useless sumbitch on the field in the first place.

Kiffin, miserable excuse for a human being that he is, managed to coach up (and scheme up) Jonathan Incrompetant & for that I admit I respect his ability to identify whatever few strengths a player may have. Dooley OTOH, fuck me running, the amount that he's in over his head because clearer with each week that goes by. I know he's stuck in a Misfit Toys dynasty but that doesn't excuse mistakes like putting Bray in for that situation.

Fuck me.

Ugh, not only has Miami played like shit, but now I have to listen to the announcers with more of this "wait until the last second" idiotic two point conversion logic. And then Miami misses the XP.

And just as I type this, Miami recovers an onside kick. Now down 12 with 4:50 left.

And Miami scored on a long pass right away! Holy shit, we still have a game here!

fahk....


so much for controlling your own destiny

And the Miami defense fails.

and Sparty gets ROCKED

Great start for the Hawks. GREAT START!

I loved Stanzi when he played for the Allman Brothers.

nice start for nebraska

Nebraska's overrated and barely a top 25 team.[/mbbf]

WOO FREAKING HOO

What a brilliant move by the corner to pitch it to another player so he could be a lead blocker. 17-0 Iowa just like that. Wisconsin's shot at the Rose Bowl getting brighter by the moment!

Dear Misery,

Suck it.


Sincerely Bo.

Those national championship contenders are getting manhandled by a borderline top 25-30 team.

Sash is a safety but, yeah, brilliant play

Every conference has their issues right now and to single out the Big 10 is silly. In my opinion the Big 12 is a joke (who has Nebraska beat? Who has Oklahoma beat? Mizzou? It's the same argument you have against the Big 10). The Big East is the biggest joke right along with the ACC. The SEC is probably the best conference. And then you've got the PAC 10 which has basically two good teams this year.

The Big 10 has potentially four top 15 teams come the end of the season as it stands right now.. no other conference can really say that right now.