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Young Drachma 02-13-2011 09:04 PM

I realize no one buys CDs anymore but...
 
The Grammys are on. I didn't realize it until by accident on CBS. Just in case you want to go "wait, what?" A lot...

Lathum 02-13-2011 09:06 PM

The Grammys make me feel old

Young Drachma 02-13-2011 09:08 PM

Lady Antebellum shouldn't make you feel old. Bieber? Sure.

Lathum 02-13-2011 09:12 PM

It's more the fact that I haven't heard of half the artists performing or up for awards.

Passacaglia 02-13-2011 09:13 PM

What do the Grammys have to do with CDs?

jeff061 02-13-2011 09:17 PM

Is Lady Gaga taking the stage dressed in 60 live kittens stapled to her?

Young Drachma 02-13-2011 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 2424608)
What do the Grammys have to do with CDs?


I presume most people who buy CDs are the only ones who knew it was on? It was a clever lead-in?

Young Drachma 02-13-2011 09:22 PM

Esperanza Spalding just beat Justin Bieber for best new artist. She's great. Mumford & Sons were apparently also in that category. Which surprised me. They're also great, fuddie duddies.


JonInMiddleGA 02-13-2011 09:23 PM

I thought people gave up on Esperanto years ago.

Matthean 02-13-2011 09:28 PM

Looks like they are going for safe picks. Nice to see Patty Griffin win, but even as a fanboy of her music that I am, it's not near her best album.

Passacaglia 02-13-2011 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 2424610)
I presume most people who buy CDs are the only ones who knew it was on? It was a clever lead-in?


I figure mp3 lovers are into them, also.

Young Drachma 02-13-2011 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 2424613)
I thought people gave up on Esperanto years ago.


Went to Berklee College of Music at Boston at age 15. Playing upright bass. Graduated at 19. Was named a faculty member at age 21.

She's basically a genius.

Carry on with your jokes, though.

JonInMiddleGA 02-13-2011 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 2424616)
I figure mp3 lovers are into them, also.


I would think so. Most of the Grammy talk I've seen have come from a few Gaga monsters (or whatever they call themselves) that I know on Facebook. Otherwise, it's like buzz free in my world.

Matthean 02-13-2011 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 2424620)
I would think so. Most of the Grammy talk I've seen have come from a few Gaga monsters (or whatever they call themselves) that I know on Facebook. Otherwise, it's like buzz free in my world.


Well, she has an album coming out that's she wants to be considered the best album of the decade. No word on what she thinks the rest of her albums in the decade will be like.

cthomer5000 02-13-2011 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 2424619)
Went to Berklee College of Music at Boston at age 15. Playing upright bass. Graduated at 19. Was named a faculty member at age 21.

She's basically a genius.


So what?

JonInMiddleGA 02-13-2011 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 2424619)
Went to Berklee College of Music at Boston at age 15. Playing upright bass. Graduated at 19. Was named a faculty member at age 21. She's basically a genius. Carry on with your jokes, though.


That's nice. Still doesn't mean the resounding response to her win isn't "Who?"

The reality is that she's in a secondary (or tertiary) niche that's about as popular as bluegrass, which on the bright side means she's at least ahead of the rising polka stars of tomorrow.

In the end, it's the Grammy's being the Grammy's. After all, they taught us that Jethro Tull is a Hard Rock/Metal act.

JonInMiddleGA 02-13-2011 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthean (Post 2424622)
No word on what she thinks the rest of her albums in the decade will be like.


It won't matter. She's a Grammy winner after all.

Scoobz0202 02-13-2011 09:50 PM

Kind of weird. The last month there have only been three albums in my cd player in my truck. For the first week it was Mumford and Sons Sigh No More, then for about three weeks it was The Avett Brothers Emotionalism, and then yesterday I finally took it out and put in Bob Dylan Highway 61 Revisited


Buddy texted me earlier asking if I knew a band called Mumford and Sons... gave him standard, "yea, good fucking band." He replied, " Yea. They played with Bob Dylan and some other band that was pretty fucking good, the something brothers."

All I could say was, " .... "

Maybe nobody else finds that cool but I was kind of blown away lol.

Matthean 02-13-2011 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 2424626)
That's nice. Still doesn't mean the resounding response to her win isn't "Who?"

The reality is that she's in a secondary (or tertiary) niche that's about as popular as bluegrass, which on the bright side means she's at least ahead of the rising polka stars of tomorrow.

In the end, it's the Grammy's being the Grammy's. After all, they taught us that Jethro Tull is a Hard Rock/Metal act.


I guess I didn't realize winning in the most popular categories were the only ones that mattered.

JonInMiddleGA 02-13-2011 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthean (Post 2424633)
I guess I didn't realize winning in the most popular categories were the only ones that mattered.


You'd be hard pressed to get me to go along with "mattered" for any of the Grammy categories. It'll move some units though, no denying that, there's people who will buy anything if you put a big enough sticker on it. But it's still the same record it was the day before.

{shrug} It's something to talk about I suppose, but there really isn't a bigger joke among the award shows than this one.

cthomer5000 02-13-2011 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthean (Post 2424633)
I guess I didn't realize winning in the most popular categories were the only ones that mattered.


newsflash: NONE OF THEM MATTER

Matthean 02-13-2011 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cthomer5000 (Post 2424644)
newsflash: NONE OF THEM MATTER


It means increased sales for the winners.

Scoobz0202 02-13-2011 10:14 PM

Arcade Fire is going to give me a seizure.

Big Fo 02-13-2011 10:25 PM

Holy shit, Arcade Fire won. That's awesome and surprising.

stevew 02-13-2011 10:37 PM

I remembered why i don't give a fuck about the Grammy's. Arcade Fire is awful, and who in the fuck is Esperanza Spaulding.

Matthean 02-13-2011 10:44 PM

Interesting, I didn't even think "Need You Now" was the best country song.

The Suburbs is the one album I flat out couldn't get into despite numerous attempts and on paper I should love the album.

JonInMiddleGA 02-13-2011 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew (Post 2424661)
and who in the fuck is Esperanza Spaulding.


Y'better not say that, somebody will get their panties in a wad ;)

Young Drachma 02-14-2011 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthean (Post 2424666)
Interesting, I didn't even think "Need You Now" was the best country song.

The Suburbs is the one album I flat out couldn't get into despite numerous attempts and on paper I should love the album.


I didn't really like The Suburbs, but someone posted elsewhere that it probably just gave the voters a chance not to vote for hip-hop, country or pop. It was a pretty accessible album though, I guess. And it did grow on me over time, but I'm still partial to Funeral and Neon Bible.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 2424670)
Y'better not say that, somebody will get their panties in a wad ;)


Or not. I was just informing, I don't care what people listen to. It's not ruining my musical experience. It doesn't mean I can't be incredulous about it. Opinions are like assholes...

JonInMiddleGA 02-14-2011 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 2424692)
Or not. I was just informing ...


Hence the smiley face I put on the end of my last comment.

Ksyrup 02-14-2011 07:23 AM

Watching the Grammys (or any awards show for that matter) is like watching a rerun of The Nanny - there's really no use in purposely watching a show that is going to anger, annoy and confuse the hell out of me.

Matthean 02-14-2011 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 2424734)
Watching the Grammys (or any awards show for that matter) is like watching a rerun of The Nanny - there's really no use in purposely watching a show that is going to anger, annoy and confuse the hell out of me.


Maybe it was partly due to my own ignorance, but I swear the Grammys had some credibility back in the day, but they just started to cave to all of the other music award shows that were far far worse. It's still the one I find most credible in terms of quality, but Kathy Perry being up for album of the year pretty much covers how much cred they have these days.

Ksyrup 02-14-2011 08:11 AM

I'm not sure it was credibility as much as we were younger and actually liked some of the acts on the show. And, we were too young/naive/stupid to understand it for what it was. But honestly, the Metallica/Jethro Tull thing ended the innocence for me. But I was also just leaving high school about then, too, so I was growing up.

Now, it's pretty clear that it's just about a bunch of old people who still think they matter to the music business trying to catch up to the flavor of the month as quickly as they can. Some they can't ignore, like Bieber or GaGa, and others they just try to make up for by giving them awards a few years after they deserve them even though their best work is in the past (which seems to fit someone's comment above about Patty Griffin). And then for some, it's like getting a Gold Glove award - once you've established that the music industry loves you, they just keep throwing awards at you until you retire, break-up, or die. And if you die, then you win the lifetime achievement award when you become the next Ghost At Number One.

wade moore 02-14-2011 08:27 AM

I recorded this just to see The Avetts and Mumford. I know of one Mumford song that I like, need to d/l more now.

For those that paid attention to the Izulde thread (before it died) know that I LOVE the Avetts. Seeing them live Friday as a matter of fact, which tells you something if you know how little I go to shows.

I hope this performance does them some good. They are an amazing band imo, especially live.

ISiddiqui 02-14-2011 09:10 AM

ARCADE FREAKING FIRE!!!!!!

That was freaking awesome! Never thought they'd win and its interesting that I actually own the Album of the Year (well, before it won the award ;)).

Big Fo 02-14-2011 09:58 AM

I hadn't heard of Esperanza Spalding before last night. Today I listened to a few of her songs on Youtube and they're quite good.

whomario 02-14-2011 10:13 AM

How does the album of the year not win in the subcategory it´s slated in (alternative) ? :confused:

A friend of mine actually sent me a bunch of youtube vids of Esperanza Spalding a week or so ago and i was pretty impressed. Not the type of music i´ll listen to at length but definitely impressive in it´s own right.

JediKooter 02-14-2011 10:28 AM

What the hell are the Grammys?

Is it a bunch of old ladies congratulating each other?

ISiddiqui 02-14-2011 10:28 AM

Maybe The Black Keys were more "alternative" than Arcade Fire? ;)

Sun Tzu 02-14-2011 10:29 AM

Any music based award show where Katy Perry is nominated for the grandiose award of the evening is officially shite in my book.

End of story.

Passacaglia 02-14-2011 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JediKooter (Post 2424826)
What the hell are the Grammys?

Is it a bunch of old ladies congratulating each other?


"You're what Grammy Hall would call a real Jew!"

JonInMiddleGA 02-14-2011 10:55 AM

Okay, I'll try to ask this mildly as possible so as not to upset anyone's sensibilities: Has anyone noticed that this Arcade Fire group sounds like a U2 tribute band?

ISiddiqui 02-14-2011 11:01 AM

'Tis a very strange comment. I don't think I've ever equated Arcade Fire with U2?

jeff061 02-14-2011 11:06 AM

Listened to 30 seconds of one of their songs. Sounded like Coldplay. Who I equated with U2.

None of which I personally enjoy much.

larrymcg421 02-14-2011 11:11 AM

Highest total viewers number since 2001 and highest adults 18-49 rating since 2004.

TV Ratings Sunday: ‘Grammy Awards’ Rise To Multi-Year Highs; Pushes ‘Desperate Housewives,’ ‘Brothers & Sisters,’ ‘Makeover’ To Lows; ‘American Dad,’ ‘Simpsons,’ ‘Bob’s Burger’s,’ ‘Family Guy’ Down

JonInMiddleGA 02-14-2011 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 2424859)
I don't think I've ever equated Arcade Fire with U2?


Thanks to YouTube I just heard them for (afaik) the first time. It didn't take 20 seconds for me to think of U2, subsequent clips all went back to the same thing.
Maybe a little lighter weight U2 but everything I heard screamed it, so much so that I was trying to avoid the phrase "knock-off band" here.

JonInMiddleGA 02-14-2011 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421 (Post 2424873)
Highest total viewers number since 2001 and highest adults 18-49 rating since 2004.


Network ought to send Gaga & Beiber a thank you note.

Ksyrup 02-14-2011 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 2424853)
Okay, I'll try to ask this mildly as possible so as not to upset anyone's sensibilities: Has anyone noticed that this Arcade Fire group sounds like a U2 tribute band?


Funny you should say that. The only song of theirs I'm reasonably sure I've heard is one I can't recall right now, but was on one of the early Guitar Hero games. On another board, I mentioned that one of the reasons I don't like much of the rock music that's out there these days is (1) I'm old and (2) quite a bit of it seems to be influenced by 80s British pop, which I always hated growing up. Smiths, Cure, U2, Modern English, Joy Division, etc. - hated it all. And I lumped Arcade Fire into that group.

In response, one of their biggest fans on that board posted literally 5 minutes ago that they were basically a cross between David Bowie and U2.

ISiddiqui 02-14-2011 11:17 AM

Bowie works a bit better, but also Neil Young. U2 just sounded weird, but it seems like a ton of alternative bands get compared to U2 to whatever reason.

Pumpy Tudors 02-14-2011 11:17 AM

I've never watched the Grammy Awards, but I check in to see if Sevendust ever wins. They never win. I hate the Grammy Awards.

Passacaglia 02-14-2011 11:20 AM

"What's with all these awards? They're always giving out awards. Best Fascist Dictator: Adolf Hitler."

Ksyrup 02-14-2011 11:43 AM

My wife said a guy she went to music studio with in South Florida won a Grammy last night as producer for the best Latin album or something like that. His name's Daniel Warner?

Pyser 02-14-2011 12:40 PM

Who Is Arcade Fire??!!?

Easy Mac 02-14-2011 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade moore (Post 2424755)
I recorded this just to see The Avetts and Mumford. I know of one Mumford song that I like, need to d/l more now.

For those that paid attention to the Izulde thread (before it died) know that I LOVE the Avetts. Seeing them live Friday as a matter of fact, which tells you something if you know how little I go to shows.

I hope this performance does them some good. They are an amazing band imo, especially live.


I was watching with my wife when they came on (Avett Brothers). They were playing their song, and she was like "I love this song." This means I got to play the hipster, "They're early stuff is better" card (which is true anyway). It's always weird to love a band, then watch their music slowly change until they've reached critical mass (The Avett Brothers less so, but I'm thinking Band of Horses, or to a greater extent, Kings of Leon).

Anyway, this was really just a stealth way of posting in the Grammy's thread that I really do love Justin Bieber's music. One of my favorite albums of 2010 (although his EP from 09 was better).

kurtism 02-14-2011 12:50 PM

Can't say I ever cared about the Grammys, but Janelle Monae was once again awesome: Did Janelle Monáe Out-Gaga Gaga at the Grammys? < PopMatters (second video in the post)

wade moore 02-14-2011 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy Mac (Post 2424944)
I was watching with my wife when they came on (Avett Brothers). They were playing their song, and she was like "I love this song." This means I got to play the hipster, "They're early stuff is better" card (which is true anyway). It's always weird to love a band, then watch their music slowly change until they've reached critical mass (The Avett Brothers less so, but I'm thinking Band of Horses, or to a greater extent, Kings of Leon).


Yeah, although the good thing is the Avetts still play their old stuff live. And their new stuff at least has elements of their old stuff and isn't a complete departure. Maybe if they keep getting bigger this will change, but for now I'm a-ok with it.

Scoobz0202 02-14-2011 01:18 PM

I'm a new Avett Brothers fan, but I've been playing the shit out Emotionalism the past month or so. I still have yet to purchase their older stuff, but I plan on it. I've heard plenty of it to know it's good but I guess for me it's a good sign that the one album I've listened to a lot is a newer one.

I was excited to hear they were on the Grammy's, but at the same time thinking "shitttttt.." Kings of Leon's career path has me scared shitless of any band that I listen to making it big.



Wade, if you were to introduce a newcomer to the Avett Brothers what albums should I go back and pick up...

Passacaglia 02-14-2011 01:32 PM

Esperanza Spalding's Wikipedia Page Attacked After She Beats Bieber | TheWrap.com

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Esperanza Spalding's Wikipedia Page Attacked After She Beats Bieber
Published: February 14, 2011 @ 7:16 am


If you went on Wikipedia to find out who Esperanza Spalding was after her Grammy win, we may need to clear up a few things.

Soon after the Portland-based jazz singer-songwriter beat out Justin Bieber and others for best new artist, her Wikipedia page was attacked by his fans -- or people impersonating them.


Among the changes: She was given the middle name "Quesadilla," and one person wrote "JUSTIN BIEBER DESERVED IT GO DIE IN A HOLE. WHO THE HECK ARE YOU ANYWAY?"

Which might seem to violate Wikipedia's neutrality guidelines.

Another entry said, 'She now has the 2011 Grammy for being the Best new Artist! Even though no one has ever heard of her! Yay!"

So. Who is Spalding? She's a pretty sick bass player with lots of personality and great hair. Here she is performing at the White House:

JonInMiddleGA 02-14-2011 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 2424971)


Quote:

... Which might seem to violate Wikipedia's neutrality guidelines.

Finally, I get a laugh in this thread that isn't unintentional ;)

Young Drachma 02-14-2011 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurtism (Post 2424946)
Can't say I ever cared about the Grammys, but Janelle Monae was once again awesome: Did Janelle Monáe Out-Gaga Gaga at the Grammys? < PopMatters (second video in the post)


Yeah, I only saw parts of the show, but caught that after it was over and she indeed melted the screen. Bruno Mars was impressive too, even though I don't really care for him.

wade moore 02-14-2011 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scoobz0202 (Post 2424962)
I'm a new Avett Brothers fan, but I've been playing the shit out Emotionalism the past month or so. I still have yet to purchase their older stuff, but I plan on it. I've heard plenty of it to know it's good but I guess for me it's a good sign that the one album I've listened to a lot is a newer one.

I was excited to hear they were on the Grammy's, but at the same time thinking "shitttttt.." Kings of Leon's career path has me scared shitless of any band that I listen to making it big.



Wade, if you were to introduce a newcomer to the Avett Brothers what albums should I go back and pick up...


Depends on what aspect you like.

The two "The Gleam" albums are fun because it's just Scott and Seth in a more acoustic style without anyone else.

Outside of that, I'd probably say Four Thieves Gone is my favorite of the older albums.

Passacaglia 02-14-2011 02:20 PM

"My grammy never gave gifts. She was too busy getting raped by Cossacks."

terpkristin 02-14-2011 04:46 PM

I buy CDs. Prefer to digitize them myself, have much better luck. Though I will say Amazon seems to do a better job than iTunes.

But I refuse to watch the Grammys. Or any of those ridiculous ego-stroking shows. I'm a grouch.

/tk

sabotai 02-14-2011 05:05 PM

Didn't catch the Grammy's, but I heard The Alan Parsons Project did well.

JediKooter 02-14-2011 05:18 PM

How's that Vanilla Ice kid doing?

Pumpy Tudors 02-14-2011 05:37 PM

I've seen the video of Christina Aguilera falling down at the end of the Aretha Franklin thing, and I'm left with one question. What happened to recording video and transferring directly to their computer in good quality? Seriously, all the video I see online is shitty stuff where someone used their phone to record their TV screen. Didn't anybody record this on a DVR in HD and put a high quality clip out there or do people not know how to do that anymore?

fantom1979 02-17-2011 08:52 AM

I assumed there would be more people who listened to Dan Patrick on here (and thus would know who Arcade Fire is).

Passacaglia 02-17-2011 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by fantom1979 (Post 2426717)
I assumed there would be more people who listened to Dan Patrick on here (and thus would know who Arcade Fire is).


Nobody on here said they hadn't heard of Arcade Fire.

I forgot my mantra.

Passacaglia 02-17-2011 10:32 AM

Can I confess something? I tell you this as an artist, I think you'll understand. Sometimes when I'm driving... on the road at night... I see two headlights coming toward me. Fast. I have this sudden impulse to turn the wheel quickly, head-on into the oncoming car. I can anticipate the explosion. The sound of shattering glass. The... flames rising out of the flowing gasoline.



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