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kingfc22 01-22-2012 11:28 AM

NFL Conference Championships
 
In the AFC, I think the gap between the Pats strength (offense) and the Ravens strength (defense) is greater than the gap between their weakness (defense) and the Ravens weakness (offense). Basically, even if the Ravens are able to slow down the Pats today I don't see their offense lighting up the Pats.

In the NFC, the Bay Area has the same feel to it as it did during the SF Giants WS run where nobody thought they would beat ATL, PHI and TEX. I expect this game to go down to the final minutes with the front 7 on defense that performs better will lead their team to victory.

ColtCrazy 01-22-2012 11:40 AM

Watching the Pats win will just anger me, so I'm keeping busy until the night game. Can't wait for the one, that should be a great one. Hoping for a Harbaugh bowl in the Super Bowl. A lot of love for Jim in Indiana still.

jeff061 01-22-2012 11:58 AM

Even I as a Pats fan was a huge fan of Jim during his Indi days. I'm loving the season he's having pretty much solely because of that.

Captain Comeback!

fpres 01-22-2012 11:58 AM

I'm going to go with my gut and pick the Ravens and Giants. I guess I'm one of the (apparently) few who thinks the Ravens' offense isn't as inept as Houston made it look last week. And I'm not picking against a Giants team on a roll.

sabotai 01-22-2012 12:00 PM

My gut says Ravens and Giants, my head says Pats and Niners....(so for the pick em game, I split the difference and picked for who I want to win. :) ).

jeff061 01-22-2012 12:00 PM

As for Pats/Ravens.

Pats defense is not nearly as good as it looked against Denver and their offense has been more inconsistent than not all season. I can easily see Baltimore holding the Pats to 20 or less and Baltimore put up north of 20.

I'm really surprised people think the Pats are as good as they are, too be honest.

Matthean 01-22-2012 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fpres (Post 2598743)
I guess I'm one of the (apparently) few who thinks the Ravens' offense isn't as inept as Houston made it look last week.


The Pats defense isn't the Texans defense.

RainMaker 01-22-2012 12:26 PM

Pats defense looks a little better than it did early in the year. Seems like they got a few players back and some others have settled in. It's not good, but I don't think it's as bad as people might think.

My problem with the Ravens is that they really didn't look that good against Houston. They were blown off the ball on both sides and a semi-competent QB would have had Houston winning that game last week. Their offense is also incredibly predictable. Not saying they won't make it a game, but I'd be taking New England especially with it being in Foxboro.

molson 01-22-2012 12:38 PM

As I predicted before the season started, I think it'll be Giants/Patriots:

Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - NFL Predictions - 2011

(Of course, I also predicted the Rams would "dominate" the NFC West, that the Bengals would go 1-15, and that the Packers would miss the playoffs - but hey, that super bowl pick is still looking pretty good - as was the pick that the Jets "miss the playoffs as the Rex Ryan act gets a little old").

spleen1015 01-22-2012 12:49 PM

History says the Patriots and 49ers won't win the Super Bowl, so I am looking for a Ravens vs. Giants rematch from 2007.

Lathum 01-22-2012 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015 (Post 2598777)
History says the Patriots and 49ers won't win the Super Bowl, so I am looking for a Ravens vs. Giants rematch from 2007.


I think you mean 2000-2001 superbowl.

As for the Giants I am a little worried because so many people seem to like them this week. However, this roll reminds me exactly of the superbowl run a few years back and I just don't trust Alex Smith yet.

tucker rocky 01-22-2012 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015 (Post 2598777)
History says the Patriots and 49ers won't win the Super Bowl, so I am looking for a Ravens vs. Giants rematch from 2007.


NE/SF have never faced off in a SB, I like this matchup.
Young Padawan(Harbaugh)vs. Jedi Master(Belichick).

panerd 01-22-2012 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molson (Post 2598771)
As I predicted before the season started, I think it'll be Giants/Patriots:

Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - NFL Predictions - 2011

(Of course, I also predicted the Rams would "dominate" the NFC West, that the Bengals would go 1-15, and that the Packers would miss the playoffs - but hey, that super bowl pick is still looking pretty good - as was the pick that the Jets "miss the playoffs as the Rex Ryan act gets a little old").



BillJasper 01-22-2012 01:55 PM

I hate these odd kickoff times.

Lathum 01-22-2012 02:05 PM

That national anthem was...odd...

kingfc22 01-22-2012 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillJasper (Post 2598811)
I hate these odd singers.


fixed

tucker rocky 01-22-2012 02:05 PM

Steven Tyler with the national anthem in NE. :(

BillJasper 01-22-2012 02:05 PM

I'm an Aerosmith fan, but that was just terrible.

BillJasper 01-22-2012 02:10 PM

Flacco has a tough time seeing the open receiver. Had a man on an out route to the right side of the field.

BillJasper 01-22-2012 02:17 PM

Ed Reed has gotten into Flacco's head. :lol:

BillJasper 01-22-2012 02:38 PM

Ravens defense will have to win it for them.

Lathum 01-22-2012 02:59 PM

Ravens are screwed. At some point they will have to respect the run. When they do Brady is going to go to town.

Dutch 01-22-2012 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillJasper (Post 2598825)
Ravens defense will have to win it for them.


Ravens D like butter on that drive. Flacco looking better than Reed so far.

BillJasper 01-22-2012 03:04 PM

Don't worry the real Flacco will show back up. :lol:

Dutch 01-22-2012 03:08 PM

Flacco holding up his end of the bargain, time for some Ravens D.

BillJasper 01-22-2012 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch (Post 2598837)
Flacco holding up his end of the bargain, time for some Ravens D.


He does look much better after a play breaks down than in the pocket...

Patriots need to be more disciplined in their rush lanes and quite opening up the right side of the field for him to roll to.

Dutch 01-22-2012 03:11 PM

Is Ed Reed even playing today?

spleen1015 01-22-2012 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 2598799)
I think you mean 2000-2001 superbowl.

As for the Giants I am a little worried because so many people seem to like them this week. However, this roll reminds me exactly of the superbowl run a few years back and I just don't trust Alex Smith yet.


You are correct!

mauchow 01-22-2012 03:22 PM

Looked like a catch to me..

BillJasper 01-22-2012 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mauboy1 (Post 2598843)
Looked like a catch to me..


I thought so too.

tucker rocky 01-22-2012 03:34 PM

Pats fans not pleased with end-of-half kneeldowns?

BillJasper 01-22-2012 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mauboy1 (Post 2598843)
Looked like a catch to me..


Boomer thought so too...

Dutch 01-22-2012 03:54 PM

Ravens D bending....can they stop the break?

Dutch 01-22-2012 03:55 PM

Bend but don't break.

Dutch 01-22-2012 03:55 PM

Flacco needs to step up big right here.

BillJasper 01-22-2012 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch (Post 2598854)
Flacco needs to step up big right here.


Agreed.

QuikSand 01-22-2012 03:57 PM

Every time I see Gronkowski making that standard 14 yard play against totally overmatched safeties or linebackers, I wonder "how does anyone ever stop this team?" (admittedly, I feel the same thing for Jimmy Graham and a couple other guys to a lesser extent)

I love how football is a game of matchups and adjustments like that. But what manner of player do you invest in if you start facing these 6'6" 265-lb gazelles on a regular basis?

Dutch 01-22-2012 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuikSand (Post 2598856)
Every time I see Gronkowski making that standard 14 yard play against totally overmatched safeties or linebackers, I wonder "how does anyone ever stop this team?" (admittedly, I feel the same thing for Jimmy Graham and a couple other guys to a lesser extent)

I love how football is a game of matchups and adjustments like that. But what manner of player do you invest in if you start facing these 6'6" 265-lb gazelles on a regular basis?


I'm going to guess that a strong 4-man pass rush will help and then some lighter speed LB's.

BillJasper 01-22-2012 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuikSand (Post 2598856)
Every time I see Gronkowski making that standard 14 yard play against totally overmatched safeties or linebackers, I wonder "how does anyone ever stop this team?" (admittedly, I feel the same thing for Jimmy Graham and a couple other guys to a lesser extent)

I love how football is a game of matchups and adjustments like that. But what manner of player do you invest in if you start facing these 6'6" 265-lb gazelles on a regular basis?


I think you'd have to start lining up guys to play underneath coverages and making them beat you deep. As far as player type... I have no idea.

Dutch 01-22-2012 04:08 PM

I think those guys can beat you deep...which is part of the problem they present.

Dutch 01-22-2012 04:10 PM

What kind of endzone/sideline close up cam hides the feet from view!?!?

BillJasper 01-22-2012 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch (Post 2598862)
I think those guys can beat you deep...which is part of the problem they present.


Well yeah. But forcing them to go deep is a lower percentage play than letting him run 10-14 yards and turn around for an easy catch.

Nice play call by the Ravens.

BillJasper 01-22-2012 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch (Post 2598863)
What kind of endzone/sideline close up cam hides the feet from view!?!?


Out at the four.

Dutch 01-22-2012 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillJasper (Post 2598866)
Out at the four.


Give or take four. :)

BillJasper 01-22-2012 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch (Post 2598867)
Give or take four. :)


:lol:

BillJasper 01-22-2012 04:15 PM

Ravens ball.

BillJasper 01-22-2012 04:17 PM

Have to give credit, after a shaky start Flacco has come to play.

larrymcg421 01-22-2012 04:18 PM

Hi, I'm a member of the Patriots secondary. I'm not very good.

BillJasper 01-22-2012 04:21 PM

Really can't stomach the thought of a Harbaugh bowl. I'll have to stay away from football for the next two weeks.

BillJasper 01-22-2012 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larrymcg421 (Post 2598872)
Hi, I'm a member of the Patriots secondary. I'm not very good.


Well, that's a given when they have Edelman playing nickel-back.

Dutch 01-22-2012 04:24 PM

...OR...you could just twist their legs up so they can't perform...

JPhillips 01-22-2012 04:24 PM

Ouch.

QuikSand 01-22-2012 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch (Post 2598876)
...OR...you could just twist their legs up so they can't perform...


WINNAR

JPhillips 01-22-2012 04:26 PM

Bernard Pollard = Patriots killer

MIJB#19 01-22-2012 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuikSand (Post 2598879)
WINNAR

Hah, I was about to post that too.

BillJasper 01-22-2012 04:30 PM

Brady really looks off.

BillJasper 01-22-2012 04:33 PM

He's short.

Dutch 01-22-2012 04:38 PM

Brady takes one for the team. Nice play call.

kingfc22 01-22-2012 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch (Post 2598884)
Brady takes one for the team. Nice play call.


Yea. Props to Brady on that play.

Scoobz0202 01-22-2012 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillJasper (Post 2598873)
Really can't stomach the thought of a Harbaugh bowl. I'll have to stay away from football for the next two weeks.


I can't stomach a Patriots bowl.

please please harbaugh bowl

BillJasper 01-22-2012 04:45 PM

That sucks for Flacco. Made a terrible throw.

BillJasper 01-22-2012 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scoobz0202 (Post 2598887)
I can't stomach a Patriots bowl.

please please harbaugh bowl


I think you misunderstood. Just one of the Harbaughs have to lose. :lol:

Matthean 01-22-2012 04:46 PM

Pats could pretty much put this away if they get a TD out of it.

JPhillips 01-22-2012 04:47 PM

What a pick.

Dutch 01-22-2012 04:48 PM

Clutch.

Dutch 01-22-2012 04:50 PM

Now the old man Ricky Williams needs to step up. Great game.

tucker rocky 01-22-2012 04:50 PM

NE should've ran the ball.

BillJasper 01-22-2012 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tucker rocky (Post 2598896)
NE should've ran the ball.


+1

Coffee Warlord 01-22-2012 04:52 PM

C'mon Pats. I got 2 whole dollars against my boss on this.

kingfc22 01-22-2012 04:54 PM

This has to be a FGA. Right?

BillJasper 01-22-2012 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfc22 (Post 2598899)
This has to be a FGA. Right?


You'd think...

Scoobz0202 01-22-2012 04:55 PM

Out of six 50+ attempts Cundiff has only made one this season tho..

Vince, Pt. II 01-22-2012 04:56 PM

Was it just me, or was that draw call on 3rd and 3 completely awful?

BillJasper 01-22-2012 04:56 PM

:lol:

Dutch 01-22-2012 04:57 PM

Uh-oh....Raven's are now in Miracle win scenario...not good.

Scoobz0202 01-22-2012 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II (Post 2598903)
Was it just me, or was that draw call on 3rd and 3 completely awful?


Cam Cameron

kingfc22 01-22-2012 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scoobz0202 (Post 2598902)
Out of six 50+ attempts Cundiff has only made one this season tho..


But still. If you miss you only give the pats offense 7 yards and by going for it, you're essentially saying your defense will stop them if you don't make it on 4th down. You have to go for the tie IMO there with under 3 minutes left.

Pumpy Tudors 01-22-2012 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II (Post 2598903)
Was it just me, or was that draw call on 3rd and 3 completely awful?

It was pretty bad. It almost looked like the offensive line was playing it like a trap to the left, but the run went to the right. That seemed like a strange spot to try a complex running play no matter what. Not exactly the time to get away from a good ol' power running game.

Dutch 01-22-2012 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors (Post 2598909)
It was pretty bad. It almost looked like the offensive line was playing it like a trap to the left, but the run went to the right. That seemed like a strange spot to try a complex running play no matter what. Not exactly the time to get away from a good ol' power running game.


Not to mention the pulling guard rocked before hand giving away the play.

Dutch 01-22-2012 05:02 PM

Oh hey, there she is! Ed Reed, ladies and gentleman.

BillJasper 01-22-2012 05:02 PM

I'd have ran it there. Force them to burn a timeout.

Pumpy Tudors 01-22-2012 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch (Post 2598910)
Not to mention the pulling guard rocked before hand giving away the play.

Nice catch. I didn't see that.

Dutch 01-22-2012 05:03 PM

Flacco's loving the out of bounds...two in a row that are uncatchable.

Pumpy Tudors 01-22-2012 05:04 PM

Vince Wilfork is abusing Matt Birk. It looks like the Ravens are finally offering Birk some help.

Glengoyne 01-22-2012 05:05 PM

So the biggest surprise of the day for me so far is that lawrence Taylor has a studio gig. Has that been going on all year? I figured that statutory rape would have kept him down longer.

Dutch 01-22-2012 05:07 PM

Wow, nice run after the catch.

Pumpy Tudors 01-22-2012 05:07 PM

Smart play by Boldin. Instead of just stepping out of bounds, he took advantage of all the space in front of him. I've seen too many receivers thinking "just get out of bounds" instead of finishing the play strong.

BillJasper 01-22-2012 05:07 PM

Patriots deserve to lose this for leaving Boldin that wide open.

kingfc22 01-22-2012 05:08 PM

HUGE block downfield.

Pumpy Tudors 01-22-2012 05:08 PM

Lee Evans was invisible all year. I bet he wishes he was invisible right now.

Dutch 01-22-2012 05:08 PM

Evans...not clutch, dude.

kingfc22 01-22-2012 05:08 PM

Catch the damn ball!!!

Pumpy Tudors 01-22-2012 05:09 PM

LOL

BillJasper 01-22-2012 05:10 PM

How do you miss that!

kingfc22 01-22-2012 05:10 PM

Wow.

Evans/Cundiff = anti-clutch

Abe Sargent 01-22-2012 05:10 PM

Huh

Dutch 01-22-2012 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch (Post 2598924)
Evans...not clutch, dude.


Ballgame.

BillJasper 01-22-2012 05:10 PM

Great game.

Pumpy Tudors 01-22-2012 05:11 PM

Tim Tebow would've made that field goal.

tucker rocky 01-22-2012 05:11 PM

Cundiff comes through with a timely miss.


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