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QuikSand 05-19-2012 10:47 AM

The Ultimate Two-Hit Wonder
 
With all the information available, we ought to be able to chart this out. We'll make it something of a contest -- come up with a singer/band/act who best fits the criteria as a "two hit wonder."

Here's how we'll score it:

For each song, the score is:

(11 - top US chart position with a maximum value of 11 for chart position) squared (edit: chart position means the main chart, not some subsidiary specialty chart, forgive me if I fail to get terms perfect)
PLUS
number of other countries where the song hit #1

(for our purposes, you're going to need the top three scores from your artist)

For each entry, its score equals:

Score for top-scoring song
PLUS
2X score for second top-scoring song
PLUS
4x differential in years of release of above songs
MINUS
10x score for third top-scoring song (edit: zero points minimum here, no negative values)
MINUS
(edited in after comments: 101- top US charting position for the third top-scoring song... >100 or no single = zero points here)

Post your nominations and scores in this thread. Have at it.

QuikSand 05-19-2012 10:48 AM

FWIW, I have a strong candidate for the eventual winner in mind, but have not done any research or confirm/deny yet.

cartman 05-19-2012 10:51 AM

Which US chart are we going off of? Even Billboard has had several different ones over the years.

Also, for the 3rd song, if it is outside the top ten, then it will be a negative number and thus increase the total score?

cartman 05-19-2012 11:07 AM

Lemme see if I got this.

My entry: Crowded House

Top Song: Don't Dream It's Over (1986)
US Top Charting: #2
Other Countries reached #1: 2
Score: ((11-2)*(11-2)) + 2 = 83

Second Song: Something So Strong (1986)
US Top Charting: #7
Other Countries Reached #1: 0
Score: ((11-7)*(11-7)) + 0 = 16

Third Song: World Where You Live (1986)
US Top Charting: #65
Other Countries Reached #1: 0
Score ((11-65) * (11-65)) + 0 = 2916

Band total:
83
+
(2 * 16)
+
(4 * 0)
-
(10*2916)

Total: -29045

JonInMiddleGA 05-19-2012 11:12 AM

Okay, since there's a band I always think of immediately when I hear the phrase "two-hit wonder", I'll put this out here as a way of testing this out. I can be the bad example that gets corrected to help everybody else do it right ;)

edit on the fly ... I think I see a problem here, or else I'm reading the instructions wrong.

Here are the chart positions for the three songs #10, #13, #76

The subtract from 11 & then square part of the formula (as I'm reading it) punishes them, especially for the gap on the 3rd song (but that should actually help)

Orrrrrr ... maybe I'm reading this wrong, and confusing "top scoring" with "top charting" Let's see what happens.


11-76 = (-65) squared = 4,225
11-13 = (-2) squared = 4
11-10 = 1 squared = 1

So, absent the int'l number ones, the base score here is
4,775 + 8 (2*4) - 10 (aka 1*10) = 4,781
???

edit to add: I see Cartman went with my first interpretation of this (instead of the one I showed) ... obviously one of us is confused

B & B 05-19-2012 11:22 AM

Fucking dorks.













































(snickers)

stevew 05-19-2012 11:23 AM

Is there any clarification for side projects, one offs, and cougar/cougar mellancamp/mellancamp scenarios?

Warhammer 05-19-2012 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman (Post 2657689)
Lemme see if I got this.

My entry: Crowded House

Top Song: Don't Dream It's Over (1986)
US Top Charting: #2
Other Countries reached #1: 2
Score: ((11-2)*(11-2)) + 2 = 83

Second Song: Something So Strong (1986)
US Top Charting: #7
Other Countries Reached #1: 0
Score: ((11-7)*(11-7)) + 0 = 16

Third Song: World Where You Live (1986)
US Top Charting: #65
Other Countries Reached #1: 0
Score ((11-65) * (11-65)) + 0 = 2916

Band total:
83
+
(2 * 16)
+
(4 * 0)
-
(10*2916)

Total: -29045


There's my choice... Crap

sabotai 05-19-2012 11:37 AM

I'm thinking cartman might have it right, because the 3rd song (the non-hit) will always be the "top scoring" song and I don't really see the point in measuring the years between one of the hits and the non-hit. I'm only guessing, but I think doing that would be for the purpose of giving a band extra points for having their 2 hits separated by several or more years.

Maybe I've got it wrong, but it seems to me that the points total will be decided entirely by the non-hit. Doing it the way Jon or cartman did it gives a total that's only a few points off from the non-hit's score.

Also, it would depend on what you consider the "ultimate two-hit wonder". When I first read it, I thought of a band that has had two mega-hits, but then barely reached the charts otherwise. But it could also mean a band that has had two mega-hits, and barely just missed out on their 3rd best song also being considered a hit. (IOW, the best charting two-hit wonder that just oh so barely missed out on being considered a great band overall.)

But then again, I just woke up and haven't had my coffee yet. My brain hasn't finished fully booting up yet. I think I'm missing something.

sabotai 05-19-2012 11:39 AM

My immediate thought was Spin Doctors (#7, #17, #42). I thought their two hits did better, and I never heard of the 3rd song and was surprised they charted that high with it.

stevew 05-19-2012 11:40 AM

Also, what countries are considered legitimate to contend for #1? Wiki only lists 5, for example.

JonInMiddleGA 05-19-2012 11:41 AM

I suspect Crowded House is a better example than the one I had in mind -- Golden Earring -- but I'm still curious to see how this was actually supposed to be scored.

hoopsguy 05-19-2012 11:41 AM

Naked Eyes was the band I thought of initially (Always Something There To Remind Me and Promises, Promises) but it turns out they had two other songs that touched Top 40 in the US so there must be better candidates out there.

Grover 05-19-2012 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 2657701)
I suspect Crowded House is a better example than the one I had in mind -- Golden Earring -- but I'm still curious to see how this was actually supposed to be scored.


But man those two songs are something! That was who first came into my mind as well.

stevew 05-19-2012 11:52 AM

Bonnie Tyler

1983 Total Eclipse of the Heart(#1 in US) and 8 other countries.

108

1977 Bonnie Tyler "It's a Heartache"(#3 in us and #1 in 8 countries)
2*56=112

Plus 4*6 year differential=24


Holding out for a Hero #34 in US---obviously this isn't going to beat Cartman's #60 something, but I feel like she had 2 massive hits and not much else so I think the scoring is probably off.

cartman 05-19-2012 12:07 PM

I found a more extreme example than Crowded House.

Entry #2: Suzanne Vega

Top Song: Luka (1987)
US Top Charting: #3
Other Countries reached #1: 0
Score: ((11-3)*(11-3)) + 0 = 64

Second Song: Tom's Diner (1990)
US Top Charting: #5
Other Countries Reached #1: 3
Score: ((11-5)*(11-5)) + 3 = 39

Third Song: Solitude Standing (1987)
US Top Charting: #94
Other Countries Reached #1: 0
Score ((11-94) * (11-94)) + 0 = 6889

Total:
64
+
(2 * 39)
+
(4 * 3)
-
(10*6889)

Total: -68736

Daimyo 05-19-2012 12:16 PM

Scoring system seems a little broken, but how about Tone Loc? Singles charted 2, 3, and 80.

stevew 05-19-2012 12:18 PM

I'm calling DNA featuring Susan Vega shenanigans on Cartman :)

Ryan S 05-19-2012 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman (Post 2657712)
I found a more extreme example than Crowded House.

Entry #2: Suzanne Vega


Suzanne Vega seems more like a real 2 hit wonder to me than Crowded House, probably because Crowded House were a reasonably successful band in the UK for about 10 years. They have had enough radio play here that I know the lyrics to at least two other Crowded House songs, and I am not even a fan.

Swaggs 05-19-2012 12:36 PM

Wang Chung jumped into my mind, but they apparently had another decent hit (besides Dance Hall Days and Everybody Have Fun Tonight) called "Let's Go."

AENeuman 05-19-2012 12:45 PM

Surprisingly U2 only had 2 #1: with or without and still haven't found

Grover 05-19-2012 12:46 PM

What about The Knack? My Sharona (no. 1), Good Girls Don't (no. 11)

Warhammer 05-19-2012 12:48 PM

Wow, everyone did the same google search. I was trying to dig and see if Madness has another song besides Our House that charted here. They would seem to be a good candidate.

Swaggs 05-19-2012 01:06 PM

If not for the year differential bonus, Vanilla Ice would be a strong contender. "Ice Ice Baby" was a #1 in several countries and "Play That Funky Music" hit #4 in the US and was top 20 worldwide. Next highest was #52.

QuikSand 05-19-2012 01:20 PM

Sorry for the scoring horrors erupting in my brief absence.

My thinking:

-the main billboard chart, not looking for country/adult contemporary/whatever

-no negative scores, which would pretty obviously upend the whole system

-I think in the interests of making this more interesting, I will (with my apologies) alter the scoring for the #3 song to try to separate out the #80 charting song versus the #15, which the initial system does not do.

Will adjust above, sorry for the headfake.

QuikSand 05-19-2012 01:22 PM

One more calculation added -- points for the worst showing of single #3, we'll subtract 1 point for every notch below 100.

QuikSand 05-19-2012 01:27 PM

So, for Crowded House:

Top Song: Don't Dream It's Over (1986)
US Top Charting: #2
Other Countries reached #1: 2
Score: ((11-2)*(11-2)) + 2 = 83

Second Song: Something So Strong (1986)
US Top Charting: #7
Other Countries Reached #1: 0
Score: ((11-7)*(11-7)) + 0 = 16

Third Song: World Where You Live (1986)
US Top Charting: #65
Other Countries Reached #1: 0
Score = 0

Band total:
83
+
(2 * 16)
+
(4 * 0)
-
0
-
35

Total: 80

QuikSand 05-19-2012 01:29 PM

Entry #2: Suzanne Vega

Top Song: Luka (1987)
US Top Charting: #3
Other Countries reached #1: 0
Score: ((11-3)*(11-3)) + 0 = 64

Second Song: Tom's Diner (1990)
US Top Charting: #5
Other Countries Reached #1: 3
Score: ((11-5)*(11-5)) + 3 = 39

Third Song: Solitude Standing (1987)
US Top Charting: #94
Other Countries Reached #1: 0
Score 0

Total:
64
+
(2 * 39)
+
(4 * 3)
-
0
-
6

Total: 148

QuikSand 05-19-2012 01:34 PM

My entry is not going to win, due to a third song that I have no recollection of:

IRENE CARA

#1 What A Feeling 1983 #1 US + 2 more that I find = 102

#2 Fame = 1980 #4 US + 2 more than I can find = 38

#3 Breakdance = #8 US + no more= 4

102 + 76 + 3 years - 40 - 96 = 45 too bad, so sad

JonInMiddleGA 05-19-2012 01:53 PM

So if I'm reading things correctly here, Golden Earring basically breaks the scoring system because their two hits weren't higher than #10. Right?

panerd 05-19-2012 01:54 PM

Asia?

Heat of the Moment/Only Time Will Tell

Damn Yankees: High Enough/Don't Tread on Me

QuikSand 05-19-2012 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 2657746)
So if I'm reading things correctly here, Golden Earring basically breaks the scoring system because their two hits weren't higher than #10. Right?


Well, not really breaks. Just doesn't get you any useful points.

I tried rewriting again...no, we don't want some asshat artist with two trivial songs that charted 98 and 99 to break the bank here, so I rewrote again to try to eliminate that... the chart position is 1 to 10 yielding points, or 11+ yielding a zero.

And yes, this system does fail a song like "Radar Love" that seems to have clicked and stuck beyond its chart position.

JonInMiddleGA 05-19-2012 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by panerd (Post 2657747)
Asia? Heat of the Moment/Only Time Will Tell


Don't Cry screws them up for this, it hit #10 and sits in between your #4 and #17.

Quote:

Damn Yankees: High Enough/Don't Tread on Me

HE hit #3 while DTOM didn't crack the top 100. '92 Where You Goin Now was a #20 though, with Come Again their third biggest main chart hit at #50.

On the other hand, they've got too many hits if you looked at the rock chart, with a total of 7 top 10 songs.

sterlingice 05-19-2012 02:31 PM

Another thought at a scoring system with just three simple rules:
  • If Song3 > 201 then Song3 = 201
    (If the song is ranked lower than 200, then assign it 201 for the purposes of having a number there)
  • Song1 >= 10, Song2 >= 10
    (Song 1 and song 2 must be a Top 10 hit)
  • ThreeHitWonder = (Song3-Song1)^2 + (Song3-Song2)^2
    (Score = the difference between songs 3 and songs 1 and 2, each value squared and added)
It doesn't really reward for higher hits within the top 10 like QS was going for originally. But the points difference between a #2 vs a #5 doesn't matter nearly as much but we can all agree both are hits, right? It puts a ton of emphasis on that third song being something not at all popular. After all- isn't that the point? The third song is something no one has really heard of while the top two have a very rigid criteria for being a hit.

SI

rowech 05-19-2012 02:53 PM

I thought Meatloaf would have been a contender but just one too many big songs.

Lathum 05-19-2012 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daimyo (Post 2657714)
Scoring system seems a little broken, but how about Tone Loc? Singles charted 2, 3, and 80.


This was who I thought of immediately.

QuikSand 05-19-2012 03:08 PM

Glenn Frey has a 2, 2, 15 set (no foreign #1s, 1 year split) = 77

rowech 05-19-2012 03:12 PM

Vanilla Ice?

Blackadar 05-19-2012 03:16 PM

Someone else can grade 'em because I don't understand the grading system, but here's a couple that came to mind:
  • Tone Loc - Funky Cold Medina and Wild Thing were his only two big singles.
  • A Taste of Honey - they had something called Boogie Oogie and one other hit, but never heard anything else by them.
  • Paula Cole - I Don't Want to Wait and Where Have the Cowboys Gone was a flash in the pan.

Lathum 05-19-2012 03:18 PM

MC Hammer?

2 legit to quit and Hammertime?

rowech 05-19-2012 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackadar (Post 2657775)
Someone else can grade 'em because I don't understand the grading system, but here's a couple that came to mind:
  • Tone Loc - Funky Cold Medina and Wild Thing were his only two big singles.
  • A Taste of Honey - they had something called Boogie Oogie and one other hit, but never heard anything else by them.
  • Paula Cole - I Don't Want to Wait and Where Have the Cowboys Gone was a flash in the pan.


That's the way I am. Grading system is too in flux...


Ugly Kid Joe had a 6, 9, and never charted again

PilotMan 05-19-2012 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 2657776)
MC Hammer?

2 legit to quit and Hammertime?


Nah, you forgot "Have You Seen Her" and "Pray."

cuervo72 05-19-2012 03:36 PM

My first thought was Men Without Hats (other than a group mentioned the other day which might have been the inspiration for this question). Pop Goes the World didn't get high enough though.

Rando 05-19-2012 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackadar (Post 2657775)
Someone else can grade 'em because I don't understand the grading system, but here's a couple that came to mind:
  • Tone Loc - Funky Cold Medina and Wild Thing were his only two big singles.
  • A Taste of Honey - they had something called Boogie Oogie and one other hit, but never heard anything else by them.
  • Paula Cole - I Don't Want to Wait and Where Have the Cowboys Gone was a flash in the pan.


Paula Cole with Where have all the Cowboys Gone (#8), I Don't Want to Wait (#11) and her third song Me (#35) ends up with a negative score.

Tone Loc

Top Song: Wild Thing (1988)
US Top Charting: #2
Other Countries reached #1: 1 (NZ)
Score: ((11-2)*(11-2)) + 1 = 82

Second Song: Funky Cold Medina (1989)
US Top Charting: #3
Other Countries Reached #1: 0
Score: ((11-3)*(11-3)) + 0 = 64

Third Song: All Through the Night (1991)
US Top Charting: #80
Other Countries Reached #1: 0
Score: 0

Total:
82
+
(2 * 64)
+
(4 * 1)
-
0
-
21

Total: 193


A Taste of Honey

Top Song: Boogie Oogie Oogie (1978)
US Top Charting: #1
Other Countries reached #1: 0
Score: ((11-1)*(11-1)) + 0 = 100

Second Song: Sukiyaki (1981)
US Top Charting: #3
Other Countries Reached #1: 0
Score: ((11-3)*(11-3)) + 0 = 64

Third Song: I'll Try Something New (1982)
US Top Charting: #41
Other Countries Reached #1: 0
Score: 0

Total:
82
+
(2 * 64)
+
(4 * 3)
-
0
-
60

Total: 180

My nomination,

The Byrds

Top Song: Mr. Tambourine Man (1965)
US Top Charting: #1
Other Countries reached #1: 1 (UK)
Score: ((11-1)*(11-1)) + 1 = 101

Second Song: Turn! Turn! Turn! (1965)
US Top Charting: #1
Other Countries Reached #1: 0
Score: ((11-1)*(11-1)) + 0 = 100

Third Song: Eight Miles High (1966)
US Top Charting: #14
Other Countries Reached #1: 0
Score: 0

Total:
101
+
(2 * 100)
+
(4 * 0)
-
0
-
87

Total: 214

Wouldn't really consider them a two hit wonder myself, but having that second #1 and no other top 10 (in the US, at least) songs seems to break this formula.

gstelmack 05-19-2012 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew (Post 2657708)
Bonnie Tyler


You take it back! No dissing Bonnie Tyler!

Holding out for a Hero from Footloose, Have you Ever Seen the Rain?, Straight from the Heart (Bryan Adams cover), Faster than the Speed of Night, plus some other really good sleepers. Sigh, not enough love for her, although she was apparently much more popular in Europe. For those that watched The Voice this past season, I think Juliet Sims is a Bonnie Tyler clone...

Suburban Rhythm 05-19-2012 04:27 PM

Like others, not really sure on the scoring system, but throwing one out. No idea how high the two "hits" ever ranked, but Matthew Sweet with Girlfriend and Sick of Myself.

Problem is there may not be any other singles that even reached the charts.

JonInMiddleGA 05-19-2012 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm (Post 2657801)
Like others, not really sure on the scoring system, but throwing one out. No idea how high the two "hits" ever ranked, but Matthew Sweet with Girlfriend and Sick of Myself.

Problem is there may not be any other singles that even reached the charts.


Girlfriend never broke the top 100 (although it was a top 10 Rock chart track)
Sick got to #58
We're the Same was #113

Matthew Sweet Songs (Top Songs / Chart Singles Discography) ••• Music VF, US & UK hits charts

General Mike 05-19-2012 05:01 PM

Doesn't quite fit the formula, but Everlast if you include his solo career and his time with House of Pain under the same banner.

Jump Around was #3, What it's Like was #13 and the next highest song he had was Shamrocks and Shenanigans at 65.

Jughead Spock 05-19-2012 05:50 PM

I'm thinking Mr. Mister oughta be in here.

M GO BLUE!!! 05-19-2012 06:03 PM

(On the US chart)

10cc

1975 - I'm Not in Love #2

1977 - The Things We Do for Love # 5

1977 - People in Love #40

(Although technically, in 1970 under the name "Hotlegs" they had a #22 song in Neanderthal Man.)

My match sucks + it won't win anyway...

Draft Dodger 05-19-2012 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 2657746)
So if I'm reading things correctly here, Golden Earring basically breaks the scoring system because their two hits weren't higher than #10. Right?


Golden Earring was the first band I thought of.

Suicane75 05-19-2012 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jughead Spock (Post 2657825)
I'm thinking Mr. Mister oughta be in here.


Right around that same time, Level 42 and The Outfield. But yeah, Broken Wings and Kyrie were both top 10 singles I believe and then.....nothing.

Draft Dodger 05-19-2012 06:15 PM

and the second one I thought of is Corey Hart

1984 Sunglasses at Night. #7 in the US
1985 Never Surrender. #3 in the US (and #1 in Canada)

#3 song is It Ain't Enough (17th in 1984)

I'll leave the math to someone else

Suicane75 05-19-2012 06:27 PM

According to Wiki, Mister Mister had 3 top 10 singles. So there goes that. I'll be damned if I could tell you what the 3rd one was.

Edit: Just checked and watched the video for the 3rd song on YouTube. Is It Love was the title and the video brought back some vague memories of seeing it but I certainly didn't think it was a top 10 song.

Someone start a new thread for Three Hit Wonders. 3 Releases off of one album, all top 10, and then literally nothing else.

SteveMax58 05-19-2012 06:41 PM

Yeah, the scoring is a bit much on the cranium at this time but here's a couple that came to mind.

Dire Straits was the first to come to mind but they had 3 big hits. So doubt they'd even rank here.

Bad English
[1989] When I see you Smile #1
[1989] Price of Love #5
[1990] Possession #21


Deep Purple
[1968] Hush #4
[1973] Smoke on the Water #4
[1968] Kentucky Woman #38

rowech 05-19-2012 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowech (Post 2657780)
That's the way I am. Grading system is too in flux...


Ugly Kid Joe had a 6, 9, and never charted again


I think this is their score based on the rules...

Cat's in the Cradle #6 (1993) -- score of 25

Everything About You #9 (1992) -- score of 4

25 + 2*4 + 4*1 = 37

Song #3 (take your pick) -- score of 201 since nothing else ever charted

Final score 238

Matthean 05-19-2012 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveMax58 (Post 2657839)
Yeah, the scoring is a bit much on the cranium


Two songs in the top 100 with nothing else. Lowest score based on combined chart position. One could tweak the number for top ranking to top 40, or whatever, but it still is really straight forward to calculate.

CrimsonFox 05-19-2012 07:06 PM

I've always liked Talk Talk

It's My Life (1984) (superior version to Gwen Stefani's copy)
#31

11 - 31 = 0 + 0 = 0




Talk Talk (1982) - #75
#1 in South Africa
0 + 1 = 1


Such a Shame - #89
#1 Swiss
= 1

1 1 0

1 + 2*1 + 2*2 + 10*0 -12
= 7 - 12 = -5

what's interesting with this group is their highest ranking song did not have their highest score as the other songs scored #1 in other countries and it did not.

rowech 05-19-2012 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthean (Post 2657841)
Two songs in the top 100 with nothing else. Lowest score based on combined chart position. One could tweak the number for top ranking to top 40, or whatever, but it still is really straight forward to calculate.


If all three songs have to be in the top 100...

Skid Row had:

18 and Life (1989) -- #4
I Remember You (1989) -- #6
Wasted Time (1991) -- #88 (Youth Gone Wild was #99)

Shkspr 05-19-2012 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suicane75 (Post 2657830)
But yeah, Broken Wings and Kyrie were both top 10 singles I believe and then.....nothing.


Except for that pesky #8 hit, "Is It Love".

CrimsonFox 05-19-2012 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draft Dodger (Post 2657829)
Golden Earring was the first band I thought of.



awesome choice that would be:

"Twilight Zone" (1982) - #10 + #1 in Dutch
11-10 = 1 * 1 = 1 + 1 = 2
"Radar Love" (1973) - #13 + #1 in Germany and Spain
11-13 = 0 * 0 = 0 + 2 = 2
"When The Lady Smiles" (1984) - #76 + #1 Dutch
11-76 = 0 + 1 = 1

2 + 2*2 + 4*9 - 10*1 - 101-76
=
2+4+36-10-25
=
7
Damn Dutch... :)

The years between Rdar Love and Twilight Zone is probably the most we'll see really.

CrimsonFox 05-19-2012 07:20 PM

Thomas Dolby

She's Blinded Me With Science (1982) - #5 - #1 Canada
11-5 = 6 *6 = 36 + 1 = 37
Hyperactive (1984) - #62
11-62 = 0
Europa and the Pirate Twins (1983) - #67
11-67 = 0

37 + 2*0 + 4*2 - 0 - (101-67)
37 + 0 + 8 - 34 =

11

CrimsonFox 05-19-2012 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 2657776)
MC Hammer?

2 legit to quit and Hammertime?


Quote:

Originally Posted by PilotMan (Post 2657784)
Nah, you forgot "Have You Seen Her" and "Pray."


So you've never heard of a little ditty called "Can't Touch This" ? :eek:

cuervo72 05-19-2012 07:46 PM

I'd offer up Power Station, but neither Some Like it Hot (6) nor Bang a Gong (Get it On) (9) reached the top 5. Communication (which I can't even remember) also too high at #34. They have virtually nothing else.

edit: Rose Royce not so bad - 1 for Car Wash, 10 for I Wanna Get Next To You, next highest is 39.

cartman 05-19-2012 08:10 PM

If a butterfly flaps its wings in Brazil, then a message board brings up Crowded House, and a band member then dies, does this prove Chaos Theory?

Crowded House drummer Peter Jones has died of brain cancer

CrimsonFox 05-19-2012 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuervo72 (Post 2657859)
I'd offer up Power Station, but neither Some Like it Hot (6) nor Bang a Gong (Get it On) (9) reached the top 5. Communication (which I can't even remember) also too high at #34. They have virtually nothing else.

edit: Rose Royce not so bad - 1 for Car Wash, 10 for I Wanna Get Next To You, next highest is 39.


Power Station
11-6 = 5 -> 25
11-9 = 2 -> 4
0

25 + 2*4 + 0 - 0 - 101-34 = 25 + 8 - 67 = -35 ouch...

Rose Royce
11-1 = 10 + 1 -> 121
11-10 = 1 -> 1
0 (32)

121 + 2*1 + 1 - 0 - 69 = 124 - 69 = 53... really good score actually

CrimsonFox 05-19-2012 08:28 PM

Grateful Dead

"Touch of Grey" (1987) - #9 = 2
"Truckin" (1970) - #64 = 0
"Alabama Gateway" (1980) - #68 = 0

2 + 0 + 4*17 - 0 - 33
= 2+68-33 = 37

These longstanding no-hit groups may have something :)

larrymcg421 05-19-2012 08:29 PM

Fine Young Cannibals

She Drives Me Crazy (1989) #1 = 100 + 1 (AUS)
Good Thing (1909) #1 = 100
Don't Look Back #11 = 0


101
+
100*2
+
4*0
-
10*0
-
101-11


101
+
200
-
0
-
90
=
211

CrimsonFox 05-19-2012 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jughead Spock (Post 2657825)
I'm thinking Mr. Mister oughta be in here.


You'd think but after their 2 number ones, they had a #8

CrimsonFox 05-19-2012 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 2657855)
So you've never heard of a little ditty called "Can't Touch This" ? :eek:



which reminds me...how about RIck James :D

You and I (78) - #13
Superfreak (81) - #16
17 (84) - #36

0 + 0 + 12 - 0 - 64 = -52
I'm Rick James, BITCH!

Swaggs 05-19-2012 08:41 PM

Someone with math skills do Vanilla Ice. :)

CrimsonFox 05-19-2012 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs (Post 2657871)
Someone with math skills do Vanilla Ice. :)


My fingers refuse :)

CrimsonFox 05-19-2012 08:47 PM

Progrock time!

Yes
Owner Of A Lonely Heart (83) - 1 (1)= 101
Roundabout (71) - 13 = 0
Leave It (83) - 24 = 0

101 + 0 + 48 - 0 - 77 = 82!

Rush
New World Man (82) #21 (1)= 0+1 = 1
The Trees (78) #44 =0
Tom Sawyer (81) #44 =0

1 + 0 + 16 - 0 - 57 = -40

proving that if you sell out, you can do well on this chart :)

Groundhog 05-19-2012 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!! (Post 2657827)
(On the US chart)

10cc

1975 - I'm Not in Love #2

1977 - The Things We Do for Love # 5

1977 - People in Love #40

(Although technically, in 1970 under the name "Hotlegs" they had a #22 song in Neanderthal Man.)

My match sucks + it won't win anyway...


Dreadlock Holiday didn't chart?

larrymcg421 05-19-2012 08:55 PM

A Taste of Honey

Boogie Oogie Oogie 1978 #1
Sukiyaki 1981 #3
I'll Try Something New #41

100
+
2*64=128
+
4*3=12
-
0
-
101-41=70
=
170




Whitesnake

Here I Go Again 1987 #1
Is This Love 1987 #2
The Deeper the Love #28

100
+
2*81=162
+
4*0=0
-
10*0=0
-
101-28=73
=
189




Bonnie Tyler

Total Eclipse of the Heart #1 1983 (#1 in 3 countries)
It's a Heartache #3 1977 (#1 in 3 countries)
Holding Out for a Hero #34

103
+
2*67 = 134
+
4*6=24
-
10*0=0
-
101-34=67
=
194

CrimsonFox 05-19-2012 08:57 PM

King Crimson

In the Court of the Crimson King(69) #80 = 0
0 + 0 + 0 - 0 - 0 = 0 :D

larrymcg421 05-19-2012 09:08 PM

Deniece Williams

Too Much, Too Little, Too Late #1 1978
Let's Hear it For the Boy #1 1984 (1 other country)
It's Gonna take a Miracle #10

101
+
2*100 = 200
+
4*6 = 24
-
10*1 = 10
-
101-10 = 91
=
224

CrimsonFox 05-19-2012 09:11 PM

#1 on other US charts counts? huh. I didn't realize that!

cuervo72 05-19-2012 09:21 PM

Another scoring method might be to take points from Music VF, US & UK hits charts ••• Top Songs, Albums and Artists ; positive for the first two, negative for all following. I mean, a band like Yes may not have charted well on the overall charts, but had 3 #1s on the US Rock chart, and a ton of songs altogether.

CrimsonFox 05-19-2012 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuervo72 (Post 2657883)
Another scoring method might be to take points from Music VF, US & UK hits charts ••• Top Songs, Albums and Artists ; positive for the first two, negative for all following. I mean, a band like Yes may not have charted well on the overall charts, but had 3 #1s on the US Rock chart, and a ton of songs altogether.



yeah Rush only charted well on rock charts too. Then there's the R&B and Dance and SOul charts for others groups... so many charts...

Draft Dodger 05-19-2012 09:55 PM

Neil Young could've been a contender here, but he had 2 hits in 72 before laying low chartwise until 93

apparently, Animotion had a 2nd hit song, which is completely news to me.

so you have Obession at #6 in 84 and Room to Move at #9 in 89.

CrimsonFox 05-19-2012 10:07 PM

oh yeah I remember Room to Move! :)

Swaggs 05-19-2012 10:25 PM

Terence Trent D'Arby with "Sign Your Name" and "Wishing Well."

Tracy Chapman with "Fast Car" and "Give Me One Reason."

Will to Power with "Baby, I Love Your Way" and "I'm Not in Love."

Simply Red with "Holding Back the Years" and "If You Don't Know Me By Now."

...and, this could be the winner: Sisquo with "The Thong Song" and "Incomplete." :)

PineTar 05-19-2012 10:32 PM

beaten to the punch. disregard.

larrymcg421 05-19-2012 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs (Post 2657896)
Terence Trent D'Arby with "Sign Your Name" and "Wishing Well."

Tracy Chapman with "Fast Car" and "Give Me One Reason."

Will to Power with "Baby, I Love Your Way" and "I'm Not in Love."

Simply Red with "Holding Back the Years" and "If You Don't Know Me By Now."

...and, this could be the winner: Sisquo with "The Thong Song" and "Incomplete." :)


Simply Red looks like a winner...

If You Dont Know Me By Now #1 1989 (3 other countries)
Holding Back the Years #1 1986 (1 other country)
Something Got Me Started #23

103
+
2*101 = 202
+
4*3=12
-
10*0=0
-
101-23=78
=
239

CrimsonFox 05-19-2012 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larrymcg421 (Post 2657901)
Simply Red looks like a winner...

If You Dont Know Me By Now #1 1989 (3 other countries)
Holding Back the Years #1 1986 (1 other country)
Something Got Me Started #23

103
+
2*101 = 202
+
4*3=12
-
10*0=0
-
101-23=78
=
239


ugh that guy makes me vomit...

CrimsonFox 05-20-2012 12:02 AM

Pet Shop Boys
West End Girls 84 #1 (2) 102
What have I done to desrve this 87 #2 (1) 82
Always on my mind 87 #4 (5) 53

102 + 164 + 12 - 530 - 48 = 276 - 578 = -302

The Escape Club
(88) Wild Wild West 1 = 100
(91) I'll Be There 8 = 9
(88) Shake for the Sheik 28 = 0

100+18+12-0-73 = 130-73= 57


Thompson Twins
Hold Me Now 83 #3 (1)
Lay YOur Hands On Me 84 #6 (0)
King for a Day 85 #8 (0)

65 + 50 + 4 - 90 - 93 = 119 - 183 - -64

CrimsonFox 05-20-2012 12:15 AM

Madness

Our House 7
It Must Be Love 33
The Sun and the Rain 72

16 + 0 + 4 - 0 - 29 = -9


(sigh)

Oingo Boingo

Weird Science 45
Just Another Day 85

0+0+4-0-0 = 4

CrimsonFox 05-20-2012 12:24 AM

Rufus (Chaka Khan funk band)

74 Tell Me Something Good 3 (0)
75 Sweet Thing 5 (1)
75 Once You Get Started 10 (0)

64 + 74 + 4 - 10 - 91 = 142 - 101 = 41

Chaka Khan solo

84 I Feel for You 3 (3)
78 I'm Every Woman 21 (1)
81 Whatcha Gonna Do for Me 53 (1)

67 + 2 + 24 - 0 - 48 = 93 - 48 = 45

Close race! :)

thealmighty 05-20-2012 12:49 AM

Forgive my foolish query, but how can this be about the "Ultimate" two-hit wonder when many of the nominees have the third song charting in the top 40 or 50?

cthomer5000 05-20-2012 12:51 AM

Felt pretty good about The Motels (Suddenly Last Summer, Only The Lonely)... but 9, 9, 21 look like pretty weak numbers for this.

larrymcg421 05-20-2012 12:51 AM

It's going to take two #1's to win, or a 1, 2, and a very very low 3rd song.

Even Extreme with a 1, 4, and 95 only comes to 192 pts.

cthomer5000 05-20-2012 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thealmighty (Post 2657929)
Forgive my foolish query, but how can this be about the "Ultimate" two-hit wonder when many of the nominees have the third song charting in the top 40 or 50?


Yeah, to me this is a big issue. I haven't looked at the math too closely, but i think artists should be getting heavily punished the farther up the chart song #3 goes. Exponentially so.

cthomer5000 05-20-2012 12:54 AM

The problem is the fact that airplay is factored heavily into the Billboard Hot 100. It's almost impossible to find a band that could have had 2 big hits that radio wouldn't then take a chance on repeatedly afterwards.

cthomer5000 05-20-2012 12:58 AM

Sublime are the first hunch of mine to only have 2 charting songs. 29, 43, and nothing else.

larrymcg421 05-20-2012 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cthomer5000 (Post 2657933)
Yeah, to me this is a big issue. I haven't looked at the math too closely, but i think artists should be getting heavily punished the farther up the chart song #3 goes. Exponentially so.


The problem is more the wide gaps in the top few spots. I think the doubling of the 2nd song is too much.

larrymcg421 05-20-2012 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cthomer5000 (Post 2657934)
The problem is the fact that airplay is factored heavily into the Billboard Hot 100. It's almost impossible to find a band that could have had 2 big hits that radio wouldn't then take a chance on repeatedly afterwards.


Well I think Extreme is the best example with a #1, #4, and #95.

And if we get rid of doubling the score for the 2nd song, then they have the highest score.

cthomer5000 05-20-2012 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larrymcg421 (Post 2657937)
Well I think Extreme is the best example with a #1, #4, and #95.

And if we get rid of doubling the score for the 2nd song, then they have the highest score.


Yeah that looks about perfect to me. Two genuine hits, something that only cracked the charts because of follow-up airplay, then nothing.

DanGarion 05-20-2012 01:55 AM

There are sure a lot of 3 hit wonders I can think of...

CrimsonFox 05-20-2012 02:07 AM

Men at Work 1 1 3 6 28 and then nothing :)


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