Shooting at Connecticut School
 

WTF, this is just getting ridiculous, an elementary school and apprently students were hit.

Can't the nutjobs that do this just fire one shot, into their own temple. These poor families, not knowing what the hell is going on with their children right now as police and rescue workers try and sort out the chaos.

Multiple deaths reported in shooting at Conn. school

Really scary to hear about this kind of stuff when my oldest just started kindergarten. I know it's random and likely won't happen at their school, but still, it's scary.

Yeah, you caused me to have a mild heart attack. Had to find what school it was. (My oldest two daughters go to school in Connecticut).

cnn is saying serious injuries but not reporting fatalities

CBS says gunman and at least one child is dead. Reportedly was a father who confronted the principal.

Ugh, sorry Alan, glad your daughters are OK :)

Updated to more than one child among the dead now, just heartbreaking :(

abc is saying there were 2 shooters

All your guns are belong to us.

I want the official press conferance to happen. I'm hearing some high numbers that I hope are just twitter-era bullshit.

some sites are saying 2 adults killed, others are saying as many as 12, including a number of kids.

i cant wait for my girls to get home from school to hug them

OMG, CBS saying 27 dead, 14 children.....

Here is a link to live coverage

Newtown School Shooting | Page 2 | Liveblog live blogging | Reuters.com

Le sigh.

Children and adults gunned down in Connecticut school massacre – This Just In - CNN.com Blogs

For CNN's take on it.

I came on my lunch break to a VM from my ex-gf's mom. That's how I found out about it (she wanted to know what school I was working at, and to see if I was okay...I teach in Groton, which is on the other end of the state).

Newtown is a small town outside of Danbury; it is, by my recollection, more rural than even suburban. This is sickening and inexplicable. To be honest, this seems to happen in these type of towns more frequently than urban areas (which is where I wish to teach).

My thoughts are with everyone in Newtown. I have a couple of friends there, and to see any community go through this...words don't do it any justice.

What a bunch of fucking bullshit. How does a parent even begin to cope with something like this? I do not own a gun nor do I hunt but I have never been anti-gun either. I am starting to wonder though.....

Police are saying the shooter is a 20 year old from New Jersey.

I pray that the fucker who did this burns for all eternity in hell. Fucking piece of shit.

As a teacher. I'm ready for new laws that allow for teachers to have access to weapons at school, similar to conceal/carry laws. Proper training, etc.

A SWAT team raided his residence in NJ, but he may have been found dead in a classroom.

Oh boy that's a dialogue for later. This murderer seems like a copycat from the Oregon mall shooting.

CBS saying police have an individual in custody who may have been second shooter.

For five cents, why can't these idiots get it right...forget schools, malls, and movie theatres...why not go out in a blaze of glory in a maximum security prison instead and gun down unsuspecting child rapists, drug dealers, and convicted murderers?!?!

Wow, that's terrible.

Some may disagree with me, but I find it a little disturbing that reporters are even asking to stick microphones in the faces of 6-9 year old kids who have just been through this much trauma. As a parent there is no way I would consent to that.

Can't they just wait for official press releases?

He's confirmed to be dead.

I was just about to post this and saw your comment as I was typing.

Stop shoving 9 year old kids in front of the camera, asshole 24-hour news shows.

Exactly.

+1

So one of the shooters had 4 weapons and was wearing a bulletproof vest. WTF?

I want to go home and hug my daughter.

You have to protect yourself for when deer become armed. You wouldn't want them shooting you back.

What channels are showing interviews of children. I'm going to bitch at them on twitter.

What the fuck is wrong with people!!! Shoot yourself in the fucking head if you are so miserable!

I can't even begin to imagine if this happened at my wife's school that she teaches at.

I was just ranting to my wife about that too. If someone stepped up to my kid with a camera and a microphone at a time like this they would be hauling me away next.

Why???

What the hell happened to the world?

Until a few minutes ago I hadn't seen anything more than a brief "school on lockdown after shooting" blurb much earlier this morning. Clicked to my home page for the first time in several hours a few minutes ago.

No words.

Same

And a copycat from the Denver theater shooting?

Reports are that police have discovered a body at the shooter's mother's house, or another home associated with the shooter.

Minor detail but it's jumped out at me. TV seems to be consistently saying 24 y/o shooter. AP is still saying 20 y/o as of a couple minutes ago.

Also, the reference to the main weapon being a .223 rifle threw me for a minute. I'm going to guess it might have been an AR-15 or similar, which I think of as a .556 but usually forget that it can fire a .223 safely.

Reports have as many as 29 dead with 22 children, though nothing confirmed yet.

:(

Fucking motherfucking pieces of fucking shit. My stomach hurts and my eyes well up. Pain and anger fill my heart and the need to hold my own children consumes me. My sympathy goes out to all those affected by this terrifying event. So very sad.

Yeah, a 5.56mm weapon can fire .223 rounds, but not vice versa. Most retail AR-15s are chambered for .223, while the military weapons are 5.56mm.

I haven't read anything about the shooter being 24. I have read that someone wearing camo was picked up by police in the woods outside the school.

Andy Carvin ‏@acarvin
CBS affiliate: shooter went from classroom to classroom, shooting students and adults. Death toll may go up slightly. #newtown

Now there are reports coming out that the shooter had ties to the school.

It's hard to fathom how deranged you would have to be to do this. This is a story taht just seems unbelievable, even knowing how fucked up humans can be.

There had been word that he had for a while and that he may have been the father of a student.

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/279635401931628544

CBS NewsVerified
‏@CBSNews
DEVELOPING: @JohnMillerCBS reports preliminary information indicates a student's father was CT school gunman http://cbsn.ws/live

They released the name of Ryan Lanza. Found a guy on FB going by that name, currently living in Hoboken, NJ, originally from Newtown.

Because these cowards that do this kind of stuff know they will face little resistance when they go to a school. A school like this is just a sitting duck for crazy people. I just can't believe someone could shoot that many kids.

Andy Carvin ‏@acarvin
Did CBS just say that the other parent may have been murdered in NJ as well? #newtown

And there is a RIP page dedicated to this fucker already.

Don't chase the trolls.

CBS News ‏@CBSNews
BREAKING: WCBS-TV reports that shooter's mother was teacher at school, many of the victims apparently her students @CBSNewYork

And this may be his twitter.

Ryan Lanza (Ryan__Lanza) on Twitter

fixed

Why is CBS still running with the father of one of the students story?

Sure as hell reads like it.

What the fuck. What in the fucking fuck.

Seriously. What the fuck.

Tonight's going to be wine-addled. I know this now. What the fuck. Any of my students that asks me about this...I have nothing to tell them. Nothing. There is nothing but sadness in my face right now, and the only thing I have in common with those in Newtown is that the Sandy Hook community, and the Groton community, are essentially the same (and therefore, it's in the back of my head that this could *easily* be my school...but it could be *any* school). I do know that, when I left school today (I left a bit early), we were on lockdown. And we're across the state, and along the shoreline.

What. The. Fuck.

I'm going for a bike ride, because frankly, I don't know what else to do with myself.

self centered nuts with unwarranted self worth couldnt imagine going out all alone like that, they want to be "something" before they die

Yeah. It's kind of eerie. It's obvious reading it now that the guy had real problems, but seeing it on twitter, it sounds like a melodramatic teen.

Seriously scary.

Take it easy and take a lot of big breaths. Not much else you can do. My heart goes out to these families.

Completely agree.

The facebook page that people were saying was the shooters apparently isn't.

That is really weird that there are two Ryan Lanza's from Newport, CT.

I looked at the girl on twitter who may have been the gf that broke up with him. She looked young, like 15 or 16 young.

Am I the only one who would prefer to not know the name of the shooter? I don't really see a benefit in identifying him and making him an actual person. Referring to him only as Fucked-Up Loser would be fine with me. There is nothing special about people who do this.

Uhhh...was the Jessica girl asking if he needed stuff to take with him on the run????? On Facebook?????

Yea, that is kind of weird.

That poor guy though. There have been about 10 pages created with his face on it.

If I was non-shooting Ryan Lanza from Newton I'd probably get an early start on my weekend away too.

Yeah, probably had a shitty day already and couldn't blame him if he wanted to get away with possibly being swarmed with attention being mistaken as someone who'd shot a bunch of kids.

Photoshop?

duh

I'm not sure why they release it at this stage. Maybe it would get dug up anyway, but how is this useful information for the public to have? Maybe it made sense before the Internet, but now you're just giving the green light to a bunch of amateur detectives/trolls/voyeurs before the cops even get a chance to do anything.

Ryan Lanza ‏@Ryan__Lanza
so aperently im getting spammed bc someone with the same name as me killed some ppl... wtf?

If it is, he's back from the grave.

People assume too much. That is how most of the late teen early 20 somethings act nowadays.

CNN is reporting that principal and guidance counselor were killed in the shooting

Way to be a self-centered dick. Edit: I mean non-shooter RL.

obama presser at 3:15EST..possibly annoucing an intent to ban assault weapons

No way Obama does that.

And that Twitter and Facebook stuff is exactly why these names shouldn't be released.

I doubt that. His press officer said earlier that this was not the day to address gun control.

Yeah, I'd be extremely surprised if he were to do that now.

Even I who thinks that we need to have a discussion on the issue (see other thread) thinks that this would be a horrible time for Obama to say anything more then "Our thoughts and prayers are with those who were killed today in a senseless tragedy. America Mourns with you".

Oops...well, at last I'm not the Huffington Post.

I love how your attempt to start a thread to discuss the issue (complete with warning in title it might get heated) was closed within like 5 posts.

We could name them like hurricanes or let little kids name them. For instance, the wikipedia entry could say "Terdbrain Boogerpants killed 24 people in a Connecticut school massacre on December 14th, 2012".

I love that whashisname is still known as the "underpants bomber". Doesn't make him sound scary or famous, just comically stupid.

SI

Just getting to pick up my two elementary kids after a day of teaching. Could not even imagine this happening. Why don't pieces of shit like this just do themselves in?

That's why I started the other thread, DT. I certainly don't agree with the decision (and one of the reasons I created that thread was to have a safety valve release) , but let's keep it out of this thread.

I posted this on FB, but at what point do we consider having an armed "air marshall style" security person randomly assigned to schools (or even permanently stationed)? Armed guards are placed in numerous situations where "valuables" are stored: Museums, banks, Hotels with vaults,... Is it time that we consider using an armed guard at a school? What's more valuable to us as a society than 200-300 elementary school kids unable to protect themselves against this kind of threat?

Given that within a fairly short period of time, an entire town is going to know the name & that they aren't going to be held incommunicado ... better than the name be released than have it turned into an internet meme with a totally bogus name. And yeah, that's what would happen. At least this way if someone decides to mess with Billy Joe Bubblebrain, reasonably intelligent people are going to know he wasn't the shooter (since the name is out there).

Those are not uncommon on a number of campuses already.

edit to add: School resource officers (or other generic names for campus cops) that are sworn & certified law enforcement personnel usually carry, at least in my experience.

I think it's just one of those prices of freedom things. Maybe we'd all be safer if the media just didn't report on this story at all. I don't want to live in that country though.

Careful with all this talk about guns because Skydog will ban you.

I don't have any words, man. WTF?

Speaking of mistaken identity, I went to school with a guy with the same name as the Northern Illinois shooter. The principal of my High School must've wanted to get in the limelight as he volunteered information that the shooter had gone to high school here..... Only problem was it wasn't him.

I badly want to take this and run with it in a humerous way, but this isn't the thread for it.

This is one of the times I am glad that my wife teaches at an urban school. They have two full time police officers on the campus at all times. When we go to sporting events, they have cops in full body armor and strapped with automatic rifles.

The shooter's brother was found dead in the apartment, according to CNN.

I do not want to sidetrack into a full blown discussion of it in this thread, but I do think it's worth noting that one of the primary reasons that things likes names of suspects are arrested is to reduce the government's ability to just have people "disappear" without a trace.

Depending on who is right the shooters brother is either in custody as a suspected second gunman or dead at their parent's residence, and the brother's girlfriend may new dead or missing with another friend in New Jersey. Not a lot of good information anywhere yet