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Coffee Warlord 09-05-2013 07:18 PM

It Has Begun - NFL Week 1
 
We needed a thread.

Lathum 09-05-2013 07:31 PM

In my basement, beer in hand, in front of my 55 inch flat screen. Kids in bed, life is good.

Enjoy the season boys, it's the best time of the year

Lathum 09-05-2013 07:32 PM

LOL @ Ray Lewis being the guy to do one.

Matthean 09-05-2013 07:38 PM

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Julio Riddols 09-05-2013 07:39 PM

Ryan Seacrest?

PilotMan 09-05-2013 07:46 PM

game delayed for lightning and we have umbrellas?

Julio Riddols 09-05-2013 07:51 PM

This is the worst case of football blue balls I have ever had.

Lathum 09-05-2013 07:51 PM

This delay is killing the NFL right now. They are going to be losing east coast viewers like crazy at halftime.

Julio Riddols 09-05-2013 07:52 PM

I'm putting ALL of this on Seacrest.

bhlloy 09-05-2013 07:53 PM

Ray Lewis thinks this is a conspiracy. Clearly the NFL changed the weather system to throw the east coast Ravens off their game.

Also, is Dungy drunk?

cartman 09-05-2013 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 2851941)
Enjoy the season boys, it's the best time of the year


We'll see how you feel after Sunday night's game. :devil:

mauchow 09-05-2013 07:57 PM

It has not begun.....

Julio Riddols 09-05-2013 08:04 PM

Whats with the patdowns?

Coffee Warlord 09-05-2013 08:05 PM

I was wondering that myself.

Lathum 09-05-2013 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols (Post 2851965)
Whats with the patdowns?


I was wondering the same thing

Lathum 09-05-2013 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman (Post 2851960)
We'll see how you feel after Sunday night's game. :devil:


I'll still feel like the fan of a team with 2 titles in the last 7 years.

Julio Riddols 09-05-2013 08:07 PM

I feel like this is an old school wrestling match and we're gonna see brass knuckles come out when the ref turns his back.

Honolulu_Blue 09-05-2013 08:13 PM

Oh my god, it's like no one has ever experienced weather before.

Julio Riddols 09-05-2013 08:31 PM

Broncos looked really confused on that drive.

Coffee Warlord 09-05-2013 08:31 PM

Way too easy.

bhlloy 09-05-2013 08:33 PM

It's early but I didn't understand why the Broncos defense was rated so highly, even when Von Miller is back. Pretty mediocre across the board as far as I can tell

TroyF 09-05-2013 08:35 PM

Good drive from the Ravens. The Broncos are going to have serious problems the first six weeks. Without Miller's pass rush, the defense is very, very, very below average. Flacco looks like Tom Brady. (OK, a Tom Brady that makes horrible decisions with the football, can't read a third down to save his life despite having 45 minutes to throw the ball and even attempted to give Denver a pick six on a play where there was no pressure) The point is, when it looks that easy for him, it's going to be an ugly six weeks. The offense better be ready.

TroyF 09-05-2013 08:50 PM

My feelings on Flacco are well known and I fully understand if anyone disagrees with me.

But the last pass is what drives me crazy with QB's. That was not a difficult pass. It was easy. one on one coverage, no pressure at all, WR runs a great route and gets open. . . if the ball is where 75% of NFL QB's put it, Jacoby Jones is still running. Instead, he has to turn his body 180 degrees and catches the ball behind him for a nine yard gain.

That play design by the coach and the other 10 guys on the field was 70+ yards. Flacco turned it into 9.

I know the narrative will be he's playing great right now and he will likely have a monster game tonight. But I think you'll find the Denver D without Miller (and certainly without Champ) will be ripe for the taking by anyone. Missing passes like that kills offenses. The highest paid QB in the league should hit the guy on the run there.

claphamsa 09-05-2013 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TroyF (Post 2851988)
My feelings on Flacco are well known and I fully understand if anyone disagrees with me.

But the last pass is what drives me crazy with QB's. That was not a difficult pass. It was easy. one on one coverage, no pressure at all, WR runs a great route and gets open. . . if the ball is where 75% of NFL QB's put it, Jacoby Jones is still running. Instead, he has to turn his body 180 degrees and catches the ball behind him for a nine yard gain.

That play design by the coach and the other 10 guys on the field was 70+ yards. Flacco turned it into 9.

I know the narrative will be he's playing great right now and he will likely have a monster game tonight. But I think you'll find the Denver D without Miller (and certainly without Champ) will be ripe for the taking by anyone. Missing passes like that kills offenses. The highest paid QB in the league should hit the guy on the run there.

hes also a bottom 10 QB, who had an outlier career high at the perfect time. everyone in the AFC north was thrilled when he resigned. hes A not good and B WWWWWAAAAYYYYYY overpaid

Coffee Warlord 09-05-2013 08:54 PM

Flacco's making me wish I started him in fantasy right now. Which says more for the Denver D than for Flacco.

Coffee Warlord 09-05-2013 08:57 PM

Whoops.

cuervo72 09-05-2013 08:59 PM

Yeah, that was not too good.

Lathum 09-05-2013 09:01 PM

wow, what a pick

ColtCrazy 09-05-2013 09:03 PM

Wow. What a turn of events. Until then the Denver D had looked slow and Manning looked rusty. Ball game is on.

Dutch 09-05-2013 09:06 PM

Alright, so Jacoby Jones is down, but Flacco needs to respond.

Dutch 09-05-2013 09:07 PM

...and he misses a wideopen WR on 2nd down...

Dutch 09-05-2013 09:08 PM

...and Dallas Clark to the rescue!

cuervo72 09-05-2013 09:09 PM

Dallas Clark doesn't look right wearing a numbering the 80s.

Dutch 09-05-2013 09:10 PM

agreed

bulletsponge 09-05-2013 09:13 PM

Flaccos muff punt plan worked!

Lathum 09-05-2013 09:14 PM

Welker!

Julio Riddols 09-05-2013 09:15 PM

Wow, Welker.

Dutch 09-05-2013 09:15 PM

Welker...really, dude?

TroyF 09-05-2013 09:16 PM

Serves us right for adding Patriots. . . :)

Thomkal 09-05-2013 09:25 PM

<---watches everybody go sign Thomas for their fantasy football team

Coffee Warlord 09-05-2013 09:25 PM

Heh, I have him.

...on my bench today. Pity. Though with any luck, I'll find a sucker who'll overpay in trade for him now.

Lathum 09-05-2013 09:26 PM

Peyton is throwing to the wrong Thomas

TroyF 09-05-2013 09:28 PM

Last year, I really thought Julius Thomas would break out in a huge way. He always looked good at training camp, ran good routes and had a ton of athleticism. I thought Manning would turn him into something special.

The Broncos instead brought in multiple tight ends and Thomas sat the bench. Honestly, I thought it was over for the kid. I thought if Manning couldn't turn him into something, nobody would.

Fast forward to this season, I saw he won the starting job and I shrugged my shoulders. I figured with Welker there, the TE would be taken out of the offense and Thomas might get a catch or two a game.

One game does not make a career, but this is what I thought we could see last year when I actually drafted this kid in the later rounds for all my fantasy teams.

Go figure.

Lathum 09-05-2013 09:28 PM

has Monte ball even had a touch?

Suicane75 09-05-2013 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 2852010)
<---watches everybody go sign Thomas for their fantasy football team


Not in my leagues buddy. :cool:

Coffee Warlord 09-05-2013 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 2852010)
<---watches everybody go sign Thomas for their fantasy football team


I've now had 2 texts from co-workers saying, "Why didn't you start Thomas, man!??!"

Julio Riddols 09-05-2013 09:36 PM

Started Thomas in a fanduel league; that is paying dividends so far. Might turn my 2 dollar bet into 50.

In other news, has Ray Rice lost a step or something? What is the deal with the Ravens pretty much refusing to use him?

Edit: Nevermind, I guess he has 12 touches.. Just seems like he isn't being featured enough, given their shitty receiver situation.

Desnudo 09-05-2013 09:37 PM

Manning's velocity is a littler lacking...

ColtCrazy 09-05-2013 09:38 PM

Well that was an ugly drive.

Julius Thomas is sitting on someone's bench in our league. I have a feeling everyone rushes to grab him, but I don't see him keeping this up. Welker, Decker, DThomas. Too many weapons for Julius to get a lot of touches long term. But he does remind me of a young Antonio Gates with his raw athleticism.

Lathum 09-05-2013 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols (Post 2852019)
In other news, has Ray Rice lost a step or something? What is the deal with the Ravens pretty much refusing to use him?


Hehas40yards and a TD. Seems like they are using him a lot.

Glengoyne 09-05-2013 09:40 PM

So I started the wrong bronco receiver named Thomas tonight.

ColtCrazy 09-05-2013 09:59 PM

Like seeing Dallas Clark doing well (except for the drop, but he did bail them out on that drive earlier). One of my favorite Colts ever. Stand up guy, donated for many years to our school's auction.

cuervo72 09-05-2013 10:04 PM

Well, that drop wasn't great.

Danny 09-05-2013 10:09 PM

Montee ball fantasy owners not happy right now

Lathum 09-05-2013 10:23 PM

Ouch Dallas Clark.

TroyF 09-05-2013 10:23 PM

and he tries to make up for last years boneheaded play. That was a textbook hit. It shows how you can hit hard and still be clean in this league.

ColtCrazy 09-05-2013 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TroyF (Post 2852040)
and he tries to make up for last years boneheaded play. That was a textbook hit. It shows how you can hit hard and still be clean in this league.


Be surprised if we see Clark after that hit. His bell was rung.

What is scary is how Denver may look in 4-5 weeks once all these guys get their rhythm going. Could rival Manning's weapons in 2004/05.

BishopMVP 09-05-2013 10:37 PM

Speaking of hits... anyone think that earlier hit on Trindon Holliday shouldn't have been a penalty? It looked bad because Holliday weighs 155, but I don't think he'd actually stepped out yet.

Suicane75 09-05-2013 10:38 PM

Yeah, if Thomas, J. becomes a guy other teams have to seriously account for, that passing game is going to be deadly.

TroyF 09-05-2013 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColtCrazy (Post 2852041)
Be surprised if we see Clark after that hit. His bell was rung.

What is scary is how Denver may look in 4-5 weeks once all these guys get their rhythm going. Could rival Manning's weapons in 2004/05.


You add Julius Thomas, who isn't just a threat at TE, but a deep threat, and this offense goes from great to potentially historically great. Ball will get carries and I believe he'll play well. Hillman is great used in spurts. Moreno can catch and run out of the backfield. Then you get to D. Thomas, Decker, and Welker? I mean, it gets truly frightening.

The Donkies had 67 yards on their first three drives, zero points.

They have 255 yards and five TD's on their last six drives.

Manning is 15-19 with 5TD passes in those drives.

The offense could be pretty damned special.

TroyF 09-05-2013 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BishopMVP (Post 2852042)
Speaking of hits... anyone think that earlier hit on Trindon Holliday shouldn't have been a penalty? It looked bad because Holliday weighs 155, but I don't think he'd actually stepped out yet.



I thought he stepped out, but I didn't rewind and look at it frame by frame.

When a guy has given up and slowed down, you simply are not going to get that call a lot of the time if you take a shot.

bhlloy 09-05-2013 10:46 PM

I tend to agree - the Ravens really should have paid Boldin. They have a couple of nice deep threats but they are sorely lacking the guy who can get open for Flacco or make a bail out catch. Of course, it would have looked better with Pitta but still.

TroyF 09-05-2013 10:46 PM

That's the type of shot I believe deserves suspension every bit as much as the helmet to helmet hits. It was not necessary and clearly cheap. It's fine to give a guy like that 15 yards, but if you truly want to make the game safer, you sit guys who do that. I don't care if it's a Broncos, Raven, Raider or college player. That type of behavior should be punished harshly.

ColtCrazy 09-05-2013 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TroyF (Post 2852044)
You add Julius Thomas, who isn't just a threat at TE, but a deep threat, and this offense goes from great to potentially historically great. Ball will get carries and I believe he'll play well. Hillman is great used in spurts. Moreno can catch and run out of the backfield. Then you get to D. Thomas, Decker, and Welker? I mean, it gets truly frightening.

The Donkies had 67 yards on their first three drives, zero points.

They have 255 yards and five TD's on their last six drives.

Manning is 15-19 with 5TD passes in those drives.

The offense could be pretty damned special.


It could very well be. And it's early to get excited, but this could be an incredible team. I remember the 2004 Colts when Manning had 49 TDs. Harrison, Wayne, and Stokley all had 1000 yes and 10 TDs at least. After that, Clark was still young, Pollard was okay. Edgerrin was in his prime, but Denver has incredible depth in the backfield. This Broncos team is probably deeper.

This might solve my indecisiveness on who to play in Madden 25. I was wanting to move the Jags to London, but wow. This team is going to be fun to watch.

And this is only the first game. Damn I've missed football.

TroyF 09-05-2013 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhlloy (Post 2852046)
I tend to agree - the Ravens really should have paid Boldin. They have a couple of nice deep threats but they are sorely lacking the guy who can get open for Flacco or make a bail out catch. Of course, it would have looked better with Pitta but still.


The Broncos are playing without their two cornerbacks. They are without their best pass rusher. Dallas Clark has not been horrible tonight, so I think he's replaced Pitta just fine.

If Boldin means that much to the team, they were in serious trouble to begin with. If there is anything wrong, I'd say it's Jones being out. That said, Flacco should be torching this defense. They can't run the ball, which is not Flacco's fault. They can't throw the ball, which is.

I just hope the Broncos don't get complacent here. The defense is still weak. Flacco has big plays in him. This game is not over yet.

bhlloy 09-05-2013 11:03 PM

They can't throw the ball because they have nobody who can get open on those intermediate routes. 2 deep guys is not that hard to take away if you can't hit the 10-15 yard routes and run the ball.

And yah, I think Boldin means a lot more to them seeing as he more than doubled Jones' production last year and was massive in the playoffs. It's a huge hole for them to fill, even if Jones was on the field.

ColtCrazy 09-05-2013 11:05 PM

No amount of money will keep me from the Broncos-Colts game this year….although I can imagine some crazy money is going to be thrown around for tix.

I would agree that Denver's D is suspect. The tackling was awful early and really only changed once the Ravens lost Jones and Oher. They have the potential to improve since they are missing some of their best players.

TroyF 09-05-2013 11:08 PM

Well, scratch my concerns. They don't have a prayer of stopping this team.

374 yards and 6 TD's. . . with over 300 yards of that and all the TD's in just under 2 quarters. Damn.

And the Decker/Thomas combo have five combined catches. Nice win, doesn't make up for Moore being an idiot last year, but I'll take what I can get.

ColtCrazy 09-05-2013 11:14 PM

Bad Flacco! Bad.

Abe Sargent 09-05-2013 11:14 PM

Well that's a thumping continuing

PilotMan 09-05-2013 11:15 PM

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

ColtCrazy 09-05-2013 11:15 PM

Followed by the revenge of the Plaxico play. hahaha

Julio Riddols 09-05-2013 11:15 PM

People with the Denver D scream.

britrock88 09-05-2013 11:19 PM

wut? just stopped watching.

mckerney 09-05-2013 11:21 PM

wat wut?

Logan 09-05-2013 11:23 PM

He so obviously dropped that ball early I can't comprehend how Michaels/Collinsworth didn't notice it right away. Sucks that the Denver player got hurt trying to pick up the ball in the end zone, but good job by Stokley not giving up on the play.

TroyF 09-05-2013 11:24 PM

Ugh, Broncos fans not in fantasy are pissed. Woodyard is critical this year. That would be a very bad injury.

It goes from 49-17 to 42-24 and now we have to keep the starting offense out there. Just a horrible football play. I like the kid and how he plays, I'm glad we had a large lead when he did it.

Still, silly and stupid. A play you just cannot make.

ColtCrazy 09-05-2013 11:28 PM

I hate when teams take their foot of the gas. 8 minutes. 3 scores. Not impossible.

TroyF 09-05-2013 11:35 PM

Did Collinsworth really just say that it was a few minutes away from one TD making it a one score game?

Ummm, it's not one score, it's three. I understand it's not a game again because of the screw up, but this isn't exactly nail biting time either. Not yet anyway.

TroyF 09-05-2013 11:39 PM

GAME OVER

ColtCrazy 09-05-2013 11:40 PM

SEVEN TDS! And it doesn't even feel like it. Amazing performance by Manning.

And somehow, Damaryius Thomas has me a "quiet" 36 fantasy points.

Julio Riddols 09-05-2013 11:40 PM

Holy shitballs. Manning with a team like this might throw 60 TDs.

Danny 09-05-2013 11:41 PM

This Manning guy isn't bad

Suicane75 09-05-2013 11:41 PM

They should go for 8, fuck it.

Danny 09-05-2013 11:42 PM

Manning has the best receiving corps he has ever had this year.

PilotMan 09-05-2013 11:42 PM

How would you like to be the WR who played and didn't catch a TD pass the night he threw 7?

Danny 09-05-2013 11:43 PM

Looks like Decker will be the forgotten man

britrock88 09-05-2013 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PilotMan (Post 2852075)
How would you like to be the WR who played and didn't catch a TD pass the night he threw 7?


:( for my fantasy team.

Kodos 09-05-2013 11:45 PM

Go for eight!

ISiddiqui 09-05-2013 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols (Post 2852071)
Holy shitballs. Manning with a team like this might throw 60 TDs.


Seriously. This could be pretty scary this year.

ColtCrazy 09-05-2013 11:45 PM

Glancing through my fantasy league….people that started someone from Denver scored a total of 152 points tonight (Manning had 65 alone)

TroyF 09-06-2013 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2852076)
Looks like Decker will be the forgotten man


Decker had some drops tonight. He was targeted 7 times. I think Decker will have a couple of monster games. If you have a choice of who to go man on, do you pick either Thomas or Welker? I think you make Decker beat you.

Nice start for the Donkies. Very good offense.

Vince, Pt. II 09-06-2013 02:21 AM

So, sitting Peyton for Kaepernick was a bad idea.

korme 09-06-2013 03:17 AM

Thursday's opener has pretty much already wrapped up 3 of the 6 games in my league.

Ronnie Dobbs3 09-06-2013 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos (Post 2852078)
Go for eight!


I didn't see any "running up the score" haranguing this morning. I must have been looking in the wrong places.

Butter 09-06-2013 06:28 AM

Someone in one of my leagues is from Colorado, and like half her team is Broncos. Glad I didn't play her this week.

Kodos 09-06-2013 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs3 (Post 2852095)
I didn't see any "running up the score" haranguing this morning. I must have been looking in the wrong places.


I was joking. If I was coaching, Peyton would have been on the sideline at that point.

Kodos 09-06-2013 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II (Post 2852089)
So, sitting Peyton for Kaepernick was a bad idea.


Always.

Kodos 09-06-2013 06:53 AM

Besides, as Collinsworth astutely observed, the Ravens were one TD away from making it a one-score game at that point. :D

larrymcg421 09-06-2013 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos (Post 2852097)
I was joking. If I was coaching, Peyton would have been on the sideline at that point.


Two score game with 4:30 left? Zero chance I ever have Peyton on the sideline in that situation.


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