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kingfc22 09-26-2013 08:58 PM

NFL Week 4 Thread
 
Hopefully the Niners keep giving it to Gore tonight.

Racer 09-26-2013 09:18 PM

First free kick in NFL attempted since 2008. Cool to see. Would have been cooler if Phil Dawson had made it (71 yard field goal attempt).

kingfc22 09-26-2013 10:53 PM

Damn it. Hate seeing a guy go down in garbage time. Especially a key guy like Staley.

RendeR 09-26-2013 11:22 PM

It always lightens my heart when I come into a thread that only has a niners game to talk about and for the entire length of the game there are 3 posts.

Matthean 09-27-2013 08:55 AM

Ponder out, Cassel in.

mckerney 09-27-2013 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthean (Post 2858999)
Ponder out, Cassel in.


After Ponder stated, "They told me yesterday I was injured," in Wednesday's press conference it didn't seem to likely he'd be playing.

Suburban Rhythm 09-27-2013 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthean (Post 2858999)
Ponder out, Cassel in.



Will this make the Steelers OL better? No? Then it might not matter.

bulletsponge 09-27-2013 10:15 AM

woohoo the Ponder era is over! now if we suck we might draft a real QB

Vince, Pt. II 09-27-2013 10:22 AM

Navorro Bowman was fantastic last night. All over the field. I wonder if he's eclipsed Willis as a linebacker at this point.

mckerney 09-27-2013 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulletsponge (Post 2859046)
woohoo the Ponder era is over! now if we suck we might draft a real QB


We'll see. He'll probably be done in Minnesota after this season but I expect Ponder will probably see the field again at some point this year. He could help the Vikings get a draft pick high enough to get a QB if he does play again.

Playing Ponder is probably the best way to get a good draft pick for a QB next year as long as you can survive watching more of these.


Matthean 09-27-2013 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulletsponge (Post 2859046)
woohoo the Ponder era is over! now if we suck we might draft a real QB


He's out due to injury and expects to be back after the bye week.

DaddyTorgo 09-27-2013 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mckerney (Post 2859059)
We'll see. He'll probably be done in Minnesota after this season but I expect Ponder will probably see the field again at some point this year. He could help the Vikings get a draft pick high enough to get a QB if he does play again.

Playing Ponder is probably the best way to get a good draft pick for a QB next year as long as you can survive watching more of these.



That's horrible. I often forget how lucky we are here in NE. I worry about what's going to happen in a few years.

larrymcg421 09-27-2013 02:29 PM

What? That looks like a perfect pass. Just out of the reach of the defender and right into the arms of his receiver.

Kodos 09-27-2013 02:34 PM

:D

britrock88 09-27-2013 03:26 PM

More about that GIF: It's 3rd and 12. Washington is rushing 4 against Minny's O-line. Ponder has 5 receivers on routes, with 7 defenders against them. Without pressure, he checks down... on 3rd and 12, remember. Also, given the placement of players in the GIF, he has 3 receivers against 4 defenders beyond the first-down sticks, where, ya know, he might want to consider advancing the ball beyond. Ugh.

Matthean 09-27-2013 03:33 PM

Yeah, but 4 is greater than 3. :D

mckerney 09-27-2013 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by britrock88 (Post 2859175)
More about that GIF: It's 3rd and 12. Washington is rushing 4 against Minny's O-line. Ponder has 5 receivers on routes, with 7 defenders against them. Without pressure, he checks down... on 3rd and 12, remember. Also, given the placement of players in the GIF, he has 3 receivers against 4 defenders beyond the first-down sticks, where, ya know, he might want to consider advancing the ball beyond. Ugh.


And a lot of QBs also might not throw 2 six yard passes to the middle of the field while running a 2 minute drill, but really what else can you expect him to do?

Matthean 09-27-2013 10:50 PM


MrBug708 09-27-2013 11:45 PM

Is there an inside joke there I'm missing?

Apathetic Lurker 09-28-2013 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mckerney (Post 2859005)
After Ponder stated, "They told me yesterday I was injured," in Wednesday's press conference it didn't seem to likely he'd be playing.



See, I woudnt have told him..I would have kept that a surprise for him....

Mizzou B-ball fan 09-28-2013 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBug708 (Post 2859232)
Is there an inside joke there I'm missing?


The fact that no one is surprised that Bradford is confused?

albionmoonlight 09-28-2013 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by britrock88 (Post 2859175)
More about that GIF: It's 3rd and 12. Washington is rushing 4 against Minny's O-line. Ponder has 5 receivers on routes, with 7 defenders against them. Without pressure, he checks down... on 3rd and 12, remember. Also, given the placement of players in the GIF, he has 3 receivers against 4 defenders beyond the first-down sticks, where, ya know, he might want to consider advancing the ball beyond. Ugh.


In his defense, he did throw the ball beyond the sticks.

albionmoonlight 09-28-2013 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthean (Post 2859227)


Whenever I've seen these shots during the game, the coaches and the backup QBs are also part of looking at and discussing the pics. I think that Fisher is a pretty good coach, but this gif seems to show a whole lot of dysfunction on that offense.

EagleFan 09-28-2013 12:59 PM

A little odd that he doesn't seem to even have the dexterity to turn a page.

Julio Riddols 09-28-2013 01:45 PM

When shit is going bad, shit is going bad. He was out there struggling, and then even something as simple as turning a page gave him problems, so he shook his head like wtf, then shut the binder. I've had days like that.

Fidatelo 09-28-2013 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 2859319)
A little odd that he doesn't seem to even have the dexterity to turn a page.


I'd like to know the context of that gif. Did he get lit up the series before? Wouldn't be so funny if he's concussed and no one knows it.

EagleFan 09-28-2013 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fidatelo (Post 2859406)
I'd like to know the context of that gif. Did he get lit up the series before? Wouldn't be so funny if he's concussed and no one knows it.


It almost seems like it.

fantom1979 09-29-2013 12:22 AM

I am starting to think that the .gif is being played in reverse. I took it apart and rebuilt it in the opposite order.


excuse the quality, i don't do this often.

cuervo72 09-29-2013 09:15 AM

Poor Lindsay Czarniak, joining Countdown and banished to Detroit.

Grover 09-29-2013 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuervo72 (Post 2859511)
Poor Lindsay Czarniak, joining Countdown and banished to Detroit.


That's what happens when you're terrible on SportsCenter, I guess.

Thomkal 09-29-2013 12:51 PM

no comments on the games yet today? You fail me FOFC. :) My beloved Cards started out very well against the rookie Glennon in Tampa-lot of pressure and sack for 3 and done on their first possession-then Mendenhall fumbled and the rookie took advantage with his first TD pass of his career.

Matthean 09-29-2013 12:55 PM

I've been skimming the games and taking notes. Odd that Indy is 1st and Goal at the four and throw three straight incompletions. I would have thought the RB you traded a first round pick for and somebody brought in for those types of situations would have gotten at least a carry.

JPhillips 09-29-2013 12:56 PM

Bengals missing #1 S and #1 and #4 CBs is really hurting them.

mckerney 09-29-2013 12:58 PM

London getting a fine display of punting from Steelers and Vikings in the first quarter.

mckerney 09-29-2013 12:59 PM

Also a few long TDs from Minnesota.

Matthean 09-29-2013 12:59 PM

Wilson has 7 yards passing with 6:11 to go in the half.

Coffee Warlord 09-29-2013 12:59 PM

God damn is Gabbert just awful.

mckerney 09-29-2013 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthean (Post 2859601)
Wilson has 7 yards passing with 6:11 to go in the half.


Brian Hoyer 11/14 134 yards and a TD.

JPhillips 09-29-2013 01:02 PM

I'd like to revise my max wins for the Steelers. Last week I said 6, now I say 4.

Thomkal 09-29-2013 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthean (Post 2859597)
I've been skimming the games and taking notes. Odd that Indy is 1st and Goal at the four and throw three straight incompletions. I would have thought the RB you traded a first round pick for and somebody brought in for those types of situations would have gotten at least a carry.


yeah I figured that was the main reason he was brought in for.

mckerney 09-29-2013 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 2859602)
God damn is Gabbert just awful.


He's only bad if you expect him complete passes to his own team. If you don't care who catches the ball he's 5/8 for 72 yards and a TD, a decent for any QB.

whomario 09-29-2013 01:12 PM

Lions manage to make everything interesting, donīt they ? Even when things work out, itīs not exactly allways conventional :D

(Stafford lost it on a 1 yard run/jump, then recaught it with his left hand without missing a beat)

Coffee Warlord 09-29-2013 01:14 PM

Cutler having a rough one.

whomario 09-29-2013 01:16 PM

wait, why was that a TD by Johnson ? (serious question, what is the definition since itīs obviously not just "both feet" that counted here)

Coffee Warlord 09-29-2013 01:17 PM

Elbow and ass in bounds.

Matthean 09-29-2013 01:17 PM

If the Lions pull this one out, @GB is going to be an interesting game next week.

SirFozzie 09-29-2013 01:21 PM

The rare "sacked on 3rd and 5, the ball is recovered for a first down" play in MIN@PIT

cuervo72 09-29-2013 01:22 PM

Just got back from jogging (well, and steam cleaning dog piss off the carpet AGAIN)...holy shit, 30-10??

Thomkal 09-29-2013 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuervo72 (Post 2859621)
Just got back from jogging (well, and steam cleaning dog piss off the carpet AGAIN)...holy shit, 30-10??


new dog/puppy? and yes 30-10 :)

Thomkal 09-29-2013 01:29 PM

Cards losing 10-0 at the half to an 0-3 team in turmoil with a rookie QB making his first start...yeah Cards?

Matthean 09-29-2013 01:30 PM

Bush with 112 yards rushing in the first half. It sucks that Burleson is done, but the Lions have enough receiving threats with them using Bush to help compensate.

cuervo72 09-29-2013 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 2859623)
new dog/puppy? and yes 30-10 :)


Nope...a rather old one who never willingly goes outside. :)

whomario 09-29-2013 01:50 PM

what a stupid DPI for the Vikings. I realize itīs propably an impossible job, but unless the receiver makes a clear motion to catch it, why hack at his arms there ?

Thomkal 09-29-2013 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuervo72 (Post 2859627)
Nope...a rather old one who never willingly goes outside. :)


Time for some "Wee Wee Pads" :)

General Mike 09-29-2013 01:53 PM

Giants O Line is terrible.

Thomkal 09-29-2013 02:04 PM

Carson Palmer, who hasn't thrown a TD since the first quarter on the New Orleans game, just threw an INT in the end zone. :::sigh::: Glad he's only on a one year contract.

BillJasper 09-29-2013 02:07 PM

The Jags look like they have completely given up. Not a good sign for a first-year head coach.

Lathum 09-29-2013 02:09 PM

Terrible grounding call on Eli. Outside the pocket and past the sticks. WTF?

Thomkal 09-29-2013 02:12 PM

Ravens not looking good at Buffalo with Flacco throwing an INT in the end zone. Eli Manning just threw a "pop fly" INT to KC-was his hand hit or was that as bad a throw as it looked?

General Mike 09-29-2013 02:14 PM

highlight reel INT by the Giants.

whomario 09-29-2013 02:16 PM

that really shouldnīt count as INTs in a QBs statline, what a weird turnover.

Thomkal 09-29-2013 02:19 PM

Carson Palmer throws another INT. Revis gets his first one as a Buc. :::sigh:::

Lathum 09-29-2013 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 2859644)
Ravens not looking good at Buffalo with Flacco throwing an INT in the end zone. Eli Manning just threw a "pop fly" INT to KC-was his hand hit or was that as bad a throw as it looked?


Ruben Randall was supposed to keep going and he cut off the route

Mizzou B-ball fan 09-29-2013 02:31 PM

LOL at Dexter McCluster taunting Cruz on that fantastic return. Honestly think his dance was better than Cruz.

hoopsguy 09-29-2013 02:38 PM

Jacksonville has 67 total yards after 3 quarters.

Thomkal 09-29-2013 02:41 PM

:::facepalm::: Bucs just fake punt for a first down against the Cards.

Thomkal 09-29-2013 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 2859650)
Ruben Randall was supposed to keep going and he cut off the route


ah

BillJasper 09-29-2013 02:46 PM

Terrible throw by Wilson.

Desnudo 09-29-2013 02:52 PM

Even worse throw by Schaub cements his status as good but not great

Thomkal 09-29-2013 02:53 PM

Matt Schaub...that was not good.

Lathum 09-29-2013 02:53 PM

JPP just got rolled up on, looks pretty bad

Mizzou B-ball fan 09-29-2013 02:54 PM

Pierre-Paul down with a leg injury. Giants remind me of the Chiefs last year. Can't get a break to save their life.

cuervo72 09-29-2013 02:56 PM

I know they're legal, but I hate blocks like that. Such a bitch technique.

Thomkal 09-29-2013 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 2859667)
JPP just got rolled up on, looks pretty bad


oh man that's awful. Sorry Lathum and other Giants fans

Thomkal 09-29-2013 02:57 PM

hey would you look at that, Cards finally get an INT off Glennon-Patrick Peterson with the snag-might be a tie game shortly

BillJasper 09-29-2013 02:57 PM

The Bengals continue their decades long mission to confuse me. :lol:

Thomkal 09-29-2013 02:58 PM

And they do as Fitzgerald finally outsmarts Revis!

Thomkal 09-29-2013 03:01 PM

Giants 0-4 wow.

Thomkal 09-29-2013 03:02 PM

Nice to see the London fans get a competitive high scoring game.

Mizzou B-ball fan 09-29-2013 03:03 PM

Seriously Eli????? Goodness me.

cuervo72 09-29-2013 03:06 PM

The heck is Prince jawing about?

Mizzou B-ball fan 09-29-2013 03:07 PM

LOL. Bowe does the Cruz dance as well on his long TD.

whomario 09-29-2013 03:07 PM

Big Ben puts the final nail in the coffin of their season right there...

Easy Mac 09-29-2013 03:10 PM

Why did Schiano call a timeout on defense when the clock wasn't running?

miami_fan 09-29-2013 03:15 PM

So how is that not a spearing penalty on the Bears' onside kick?

Thomkal 09-29-2013 03:16 PM

Cards get another Peterson INT to probably end the game. Very very lucky they escaped here.

BillJasper 09-29-2013 03:16 PM

Who else does Tampa Bay have that can play QB? :lol:

Thomkal 09-29-2013 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 2859675)
Giants 0-4 wow.


Pittsburgh 0-4 wow.

Matthean 09-29-2013 03:28 PM

AFC East still undefeated outside of their division.

MIJB#19 09-29-2013 03:30 PM

Kansas City 4-0 wow?

Thomkal 09-29-2013 03:33 PM

Holy crap what a stupid stupid play by Terrell Suggs!

Thomkal 09-29-2013 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIJB#19 (Post 2859693)
Kansas City 4-0 wow?


definite wow there-you knew they would be better with Andy Reid and Alex Smith, but this much better?

Matthean 09-29-2013 03:40 PM

Browns tied for division lead.

Solecismic 09-29-2013 03:40 PM

What are the thoughts on protecting players with the ball?

Thought the spear at the end of the Bears game was a bad one. I'm not sure why that wasn't a penalty - even an ejection under the rules.

Then you have that situation where a defensive player is wrestling with a big receiver, stops him and finally throws him to the ground. Thought it looked worse than it was, but the whistle had blown so the call may have been a good one. Problem is, it's a result-changing 15 yards for Seattle. Add that to the questionable punt coverage penalty and I'm sure there will be plenty of complaints this week from Houston.

Going back to last week, what about a penalty on Cutler during his scramble when he knocked the defensive player out? The rules should also apply to offensive players who make life miserable for those trying to tackle them.

I'd like to see better protection for players. Still some kinks to work out, but the change is necessary.

Solecismic 09-29-2013 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 2859696)
definite wow there-you knew they would be better with Andy Reid and Alex Smith, but this much better?


If Coughlin doesn't find a way to stop the Eagles next Sunday, he's probably not going to make it to week 6.

(looking at the schedule, it's a short week for them, so he probably gets one more shot in the Thursday night game, but with only two games over the following month, they would make the change).

ColtCrazy 09-29-2013 03:42 PM

Dominant Colts performance albeit against Jax. Curious to see how this new look fares against the Seahawks. Maybe they'll have a let down after Houston gifted them a win.

Screwed up in fantasy. Meant to put Reggie Bush back in for Bernard Pierce, but it didn't take. Not sure if I forgot to hit submit or what. So Bush scores 31, Pierce gets one, and I'm currently down 27. :banghead:

cuervo72 09-29-2013 03:47 PM

Yay, called DirecTV and can actually see the Eagles game now (or, boo?)

Also, lol@WAS punting unit.

Thomkal 09-29-2013 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColtCrazy (Post 2859701)
Dominant Colts performance albeit against Jax. Curious to see how this new look fares against the Seahawks. Maybe they'll have a let down after Houston gifted them a win.

Screwed up in fantasy. Meant to put Reggie Bush back in for Bernard Pierce, but it didn't take. Not sure if I forgot to hit submit or what. So Bush scores 31, Pierce gets one, and I'm currently down 27. :banghead:


oof :::insert Picard facepalm:::

miami_fan 09-29-2013 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solecismic (Post 2859698)
What are the thoughts on protecting players with the ball?

Thought the spear at the end of the Bears game was a bad one. I'm not sure why that wasn't a penalty - even an ejection under the rules.

Then you have that situation where a defensive player is wrestling with a big receiver, stops him and finally throws him to the ground. Thought it looked worse than it was, but the whistle had blown so the call may have been a good one. Problem is, it's a result-changing 15 yards for Seattle. Add that to the questionable punt coverage penalty and I'm sure there will be plenty of complaints this week from Houston.

Going back to last week, what about a penalty on Cutler during his scramble when he knocked the defensive player out? The rules should also apply to offensive players who make life miserable for those trying to tackle them.

I'd like to see better protection for players. Still some kinks to work out, but the change is necessary.


As someone who has been cast as anti player safety, this is my number one complaint. It was amazing how "cute" everyone made the Cutler situation out to me but there would have been calls for suspension if the roles were reversed. Someone on the board said it best during one of the many discussions on the topic. The league is not concerned with player safety, it is concerned with the safety of certain players.

frnk55 09-29-2013 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthean (Post 2859697)
Browns tied for division lead.

Goin all the way baby!:D


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