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Abe Sargent 09-24-2014 12:37 PM

2014 NFL Regular Season, Week 4
 
Rogers has set himself up for a bad quote, if the team doesn't come together, after his telling folks to just relax, it'll be okay in Green Bay.

Matthean 09-24-2014 12:53 PM

Packers vs. Bears will be interesting to see who wins. Lions against the Jets so they could end up being alone in first place. Philly at San Fran will likely be the game of the week. Hard to imagine San Fran starting out 1-3.

Dutch 09-24-2014 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent (Post 2963027)
Rogers has set himself up for a bad quote, if the team doesn't come together, after his telling folks to just relax, it'll be okay in Green Bay.


Bucs willing to make trade. Inquire soonest. Regards, Bucs fan base.

Mizzou B-ball fan 09-24-2014 01:50 PM

Just awesome. Surprised this wasn't a link to The Onion.......

Jacksonville Jaguars Send Letter Asking Fans to Sit Down at Games | Bleacher Report

BillJasper 09-24-2014 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan (Post 2963068)
Just awesome. Surprised this wasn't a link to The Onion.......

Jacksonville Jaguars Send Letter Asking Fans to Sit Down at Games | Bleacher Report


I'm sure those standing section tickets are full price!

kingfc22 09-24-2014 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthean (Post 2963035)
Packers vs. Bears will be interesting to see who wins. Lions against the Jets so they could end up being alone in first place. Philly at San Fran will likely be the game of the week. Hard to imagine San Fran starting out 1-3.


I don't know. If the Niners don't find a pass rush soon, I'm afraid the Eagles will abuse the secondary with their speedy receivers. Just look at what John Brown did this past weekend.

Sun Tzu 09-24-2014 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfc22 (Post 2963090)
I don't know. If the Niners don't find a pass rush soon, I'm afraid the Eagles will abuse the secondary with their speedy receivers. Just look at what John Brown did this past weekend.


Well, FWIW, all of the big catches Brown had were against blown assignments/coverages.

49ers vs Cardinals coaches film tweets - Niners Nation

Lathum 09-25-2014 07:15 AM

Rubber meets the road for the G-Men tonight. Have to win and get to 2-2. After tonight they have a rough stretch where they get Atlanta at home, @ philly and Dallas, Indy at home, then to Seattle.

If they drop to 1-3 tonight they are likely looking at 2-7 after that stretch.

Blackadar 09-25-2014 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan (Post 2963068)
Just awesome. Surprised this wasn't a link to The Onion.......

Jacksonville Jaguars Send Letter Asking Fans to Sit Down at Games | Bleacher Report


Yeah, but when you read the letter you realize there's a group of douchebag fans standing up and blocking everyone's view in that particular section. Obviously this is an ongoing problem.

Lathum 09-25-2014 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackadar (Post 2963214)
Yeah, but when you read the letter you realize there's a group of douchebag fans standing up and blocking everyone's view in that particular section. Obviously this is an ongoing problem.


I didn't have an issue with it. I kind of agree, standing on third down, etc...ok, standing on first and 20 with my 4 year old sitting behind you, annoying.

Abe Sargent 09-25-2014 07:35 PM

Let's go Giants!

BillJasper 09-25-2014 07:39 PM

I have no idea who is even playing tonight. Watching American Dad on Netflix.

cuervo72 09-25-2014 08:13 PM

Looks like he tapped that left foot to me.

cuervo72 09-25-2014 08:17 PM

But not with the ball, it seems.

wade moore 09-25-2014 08:19 PM

Yeah, I think the slight shift of the ball was the issue.

Matthean 09-25-2014 08:38 PM

Amazing what happens when Eli doesn't throw INTs.

cuervo72 09-25-2014 08:40 PM

I wonder how many people watching know who "THAT Joe Walton" was.

sabotai 09-25-2014 08:50 PM

Okay, I need some help with this one. How can he have completed the process of catching the pass (two feet down, made a football move, whatever), and still be a defenseless receiver?

According to the rules, as soon as the process is complete, he's now a runner. As a runner, helmet-to-helmet contact is not illegal, so....

Lathum 09-25-2014 08:50 PM

How are you considered a defenseless receiver if you have already made the catch and are running with it?

Abe Sargent 09-25-2014 08:56 PM

Redskins, how do you let Victor Cruz get THAT much space on an sideline toss with :07 left on the clock?

cuervo72 09-25-2014 08:59 PM

That's...a pretty good question on the catch and run. It looked to me too that he ducked, and just got sandwiched - with the two Giants hitting each other just as much as Paul.

wade moore 09-25-2014 09:08 PM

Since when is helmet to helmet not illegal on a runner?

sabotai 09-25-2014 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade moore (Post 2963393)
Since when is helmet to helmet not illegal on a runner?


Since always.

sabotai 09-25-2014 09:20 PM

Here's the rule for defenseless receiver

"(2) A receiver attempting to catch a pass; or who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or
has not clearly become a runner. If the receiver/runner is capable of avoiding or warding off the impending
contact of an opponent, he is no longer a defenseless player;"

So I guess they're saying that even though he completed the catch, he didn't have enough time to protect himself so he's still labeled "defenseless".

Abe Sargent 09-25-2014 09:25 PM

Do you all think the football gods will smile on teh Bengals this year for the Devon Still story?

sabotai 09-25-2014 09:26 PM

The Giants defense have commenced "melt down mode".

sabotai 09-25-2014 09:28 PM

Well nevermind...

wade moore 09-25-2014 09:31 PM

Ummmm,... No?

I can't paste the text on my iPad, but...

http://www.nfl.com/static/content/pu...er_Conduct.pdf

8g and 8j clearly state you can't use your helmet.

wade moore 09-25-2014 09:33 PM

I see the note at the bottom, I stand corrected.

NobodyHere 09-25-2014 09:34 PM

Eli pins Washington down on the 1.

Very clever by Eli.

Lathum 09-25-2014 09:34 PM

Looked like a TD to me.

Lathum 09-25-2014 09:36 PM

I think we can end the "Kirk Cousins is the man in DC now" talk

NobodyHere 09-25-2014 09:36 PM

Yup

sabotai 09-25-2014 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade moore (Post 2963402)
8g and 8j clearly state you can't use your helmet.


"(g) If a player uses any part of his helmet (including the top/crown and forehead/”hairline” parts) or
facemask to butt, spear, or ram an opponent violently or unnecessarily."

That's the "Spearing" rule.

"(j) if a player illegally launches into a defenseless opponent."

A runner is not "defenseless".

Helmet-to-helmet contact has never been an automatic penalty against a runner like it is against a QB or defenseless receiver. Helmet-to-helmet contact happens on running plays all the time. It just happened on the last running play to Jennings.

EDIT:
Quote:

Originally Posted by wade moore (Post 2963403)
I see the note at the bottom, I stand corrected.


Or I could have just read one more line and quoted that... :)

Lathum 09-25-2014 10:02 PM

Wow. Eli with the rushing TD.

JPhillips 09-25-2014 10:06 PM

Gruden didn't make it any easier for Cousins. up until the midway point in the second quarter, when they were down by no more than one TD, Washington had twice as many throws as runs. I saw that in Cincy and wondered why he kept asking Dalton to be a superstar.

Lathum 09-25-2014 10:10 PM

I actually feel bad for cousins.

The Jackal 09-25-2014 10:21 PM

I has many sads

Matthean 09-25-2014 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 2963412)
I actually feel bad for cousins.


Anything to quiet the whole, "OMG, there are 3 former MSU QBs winning in the NFL" thing that's going around is fine by me. :D

The Jackal 09-25-2014 10:24 PM

That Paulsen fumble is what killed the game, I said it then .. granted the defense came out better right at the beginning of the 2nd half, but there was too much to do, and Cousins made some mistakes. Probably the worst secondary in the league without D-Hall .. and wasn't far off with him.

RainMaker 09-25-2014 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan (Post 2963068)
Just awesome. Surprised this wasn't a link to The Onion.......

Jacksonville Jaguars Send Letter Asking Fans to Sit Down at Games | Bleacher Report


The letter doesn't seem that bad. They aren't asking fans to sit, just stand with the flow of the game. Don't stand during the entire game and block everyone's view.

stevew 09-25-2014 10:34 PM

Cousins is the modern day Scott Chandler.

stevew 09-25-2014 10:36 PM

*Chris chandler.

Julio Riddols 09-26-2014 01:30 AM

*Chandler Bing

Easy Mac 09-26-2014 05:14 AM

*Bing Crosby

Alf 09-26-2014 07:08 AM

*Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young

Butter 09-26-2014 07:08 AM

*Nash Bridges

Lathum 09-26-2014 07:19 AM

Bridge over troubled waters

cuervo72 09-26-2014 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols (Post 2963436)
*Chandler Bing


Heh, I thought the same while climbing into bed last night.

Could you THROW any more interceptions?

Kodos 09-26-2014 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthean (Post 2963415)
Anything to quiet the whole, "OMG, there are 3 former MSU QBs winning in the NFL" thing that's going around is fine by me. :D


Don't worry. I'm Devin Gardner will be an NFL starter next year to balance things out!

Kodos 09-26-2014 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuervo72 (Post 2963454)
Heh, I thought the same while climbing into bed last night.

Could you THROW any more interceptions?


:D

gstelmack 09-26-2014 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthean (Post 2963415)
Anything to quiet the whole, "OMG, there are 3 former MSU QBs winning in the NFL" thing that's going around is fine by me. :D


Yes, we need to get back to the "3 NC State QBs winning in the NFL" bit (once Glennon gets back in the driver's seat).

Lathum 09-26-2014 08:28 AM

G- MEN!!!



albionmoonlight 09-26-2014 08:33 AM

If I had access to easy sports gambling, I'd be living under a bridge by now. Everything I knew about football told me that the Skins were going to beat the Giants by 14+

stevew 09-26-2014 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuervo72 (Post 2963454)
Heh, I thought the same while climbing into bed last night.

Could you THROW any more interceptions?


Yeah I knew it was coming.

BillJasper 09-26-2014 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 2963411)
Gruden didn't make it any easier for Cousins. up until the midway point in the second quarter, when they were down by no more than one TD, Washington had twice as many throws as runs. I saw that in Cincy and wondered why he kept asking Dalton to be a superstar.


This. When you aren't running the ball all the secondary has to do is sit back and watch the QB.

gstelmack 09-26-2014 11:23 AM

Gruden is running the ball an average number of times.

For the Arena League he grew up in.

BillJasper 09-26-2014 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gstelmack (Post 2963540)
Gruden is running the ball an average number of times.

For the Arena League he grew up in.


Unfortunately for Gruden, players in NFL secondaries don't work at Jiffy Lube during the week. All they do is study film and practice. I'm starting to wonder if Andy Dalton's issues weren't related to Jay Gruden?

albionmoonlight 09-28-2014 07:12 AM

Pretty sure that this is only funny to me because my kids kept me from getting enough sleep. But it occurs to me that Blake Bortles needs a touchdown celebration where he grabs his stomach and pretends to do a huge belly laugh.

The Bortles Chortle.

JAG 09-28-2014 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 2963465)
G- MEN!!!




Brandon Jacobs wasn't available?

Desnudo 09-28-2014 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 2963809)
Pretty sure that this is only funny to me because my kids kept me from getting enough sleep. But it occurs to me that Blake Bortles needs a touchdown celebration where he grabs his stomach and pretends to do a huge belly laugh.

The Bortles Chortle.


I think you need to trademark it before Greggg easterbrook steals it

Lathum 09-28-2014 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG (Post 2963810)
Brandon Jacobs wasn't available?


She outgrew it, kids a brute

bhlloy 09-28-2014 12:11 PM

Ridiculous penalties already started in the Bears Packers game. They are just making shit up at this point

Vince, Pt. II 09-28-2014 12:18 PM

Of course Brandon Marshall gets a TD on the first drive.

Matthean 09-28-2014 12:28 PM

How the Detroit Lions would move on without Ndamukong Suh - Detroit Lions Blog - ESPN

One of the big 3 had to leave and he was clearly the most logical. Have fun building your brand in NY while you keep getting fined.

stevew 09-28-2014 12:39 PM

Refs love the bears.

stevew 09-28-2014 12:40 PM

Smith Sr...break your goggles out.

Coffee Warlord 09-28-2014 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew (Post 2963872)
Refs love the bears.


And now they love the Packers.

Terrible officiating.

bhlloy 09-28-2014 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew (Post 2963872)
Refs love the bears.


These refs are embarrassing themselves. Three major penalties that were completely wrong that have seriously changed the game.

Karlifornia 09-28-2014 12:51 PM

Terrible unnecessary roughness on Mundy. LOL NOW ANOTHER ONE. unbelieveable

bhlloy 09-28-2014 12:52 PM

There is another one. I do love to see refs deciding the game. Great job NFL!

hoopsguy 09-28-2014 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhlloy (Post 2963862)
Ridiculous penalties already started in the Bears Packers game. They are just making shit up at this point


And it has gotten worse from that point ... pretty much every flag thrown has been wrong.

NobodyHere 09-28-2014 01:02 PM

I'm glad the Colts play in the AFC south, makes overcoming an 0-2 start easy.

Coffee Warlord 09-28-2014 01:05 PM

What a play call on that TD pass to Jeffery.

stevew 09-28-2014 01:22 PM

Goggle up, son.

hoopsguy 09-28-2014 01:31 PM

Bears apparently denied on the 1/12 of an inch line. Hard to give refs benefit of doubt on getting that one right.

Jas_lov 09-28-2014 01:35 PM

There's no defense being played at Soldier Field today. Rodgers is going to have to score a TD on every drive to win this game and he has thus far. There's not a competent official on the field. My favorite call was Julius Peppers getting called for hands to the face when he never had his hands near the o-lineman's face, it was the o-lineman who had his hands on Peppers face.

korme 09-28-2014 01:43 PM

I want some Bortles Service

Sun Tzu 09-28-2014 01:45 PM

Every time I come in here, all I see is people whining about the refs. Bunch of whiners. Geeze, stop whining!

GFY

Dutch 09-28-2014 01:49 PM

My connection flight in O'hare was missed...so I am chillin here in a bar watching the CHI-GB game with an assortment of fans but mostly Bears fans. It's really making up for the 6 hour delay I have incurred to watch this game with Bears and Pack fans. 'Murica!

Abe Sargent 09-28-2014 02:10 PM

Stafford with the plunge and a score.

bhlloy 09-28-2014 02:23 PM

When you think the calls can't get any more absurd in the bears game...

Suicane75 09-28-2014 02:42 PM

If only there was someway we could get replacement refs.....

sabotai 09-28-2014 02:47 PM

Week of the blow outs apparently. NYG-WAS, BAL-CAR, GB-CHI, IND-TEN, MIA-OAK all blow outs so far. My CBS station just switched from BAL-CAR to the HOU-BUF game.

Abe Sargent 09-28-2014 02:59 PM

Boom Buffalo!

Abe Sargent 09-28-2014 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabotai (Post 2963903)
Week of the blow outs apparently. NYG-WAS, BAL-CAR, GB-CHI, IND-TEN, MIA-OAK all blow outs so far. My CBS station just switched from BAL-CAR to the HOU-BUF game.


But the Bills-Texans game does not suck.

NobodyHere 09-28-2014 03:12 PM

Tampa Bay finishes their game in Tampa Bay style.

Vince, Pt. II 09-28-2014 03:21 PM

What style is that?

cartman 09-28-2014 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 2963909)
Tampa Bay finishes their game in Tampa Bay style.


Not so fast...

NobodyHere 09-28-2014 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman (Post 2963911)
Not so fast...


:banghead:

Dutch 09-28-2014 03:23 PM

This just in....the Legend of Mike Glennon!!!

Abe Sargent 09-28-2014 03:24 PM

Bills are driving!!!

Abe Sargent 09-28-2014 03:25 PM

Nevermind. PICk by Houstan

Thomkal 09-28-2014 03:25 PM

wow Pittsburgh how do you lose to a winless Buccs team at home after crushing the Panthers the week before? what a horrible loss.

korme 09-28-2014 03:27 PM

Haha, Pittsburgh.

Abe Sargent 09-28-2014 03:40 PM

I do like the new Jags helmets

korme 09-28-2014 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent (Post 2963918)
I do like the new Jags helmets


So you're the one.

Dutch 09-28-2014 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 2963916)
wow Pittsburgh how do you lose to a winless Buccs team at home after crushing the Panthers the week before? what a horrible loss.


Tuuuurible! :D

Butter 09-28-2014 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by korme (Post 2963917)
Haha, Pittsburgh.


.

Dutch 09-28-2014 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch (Post 2963896)
My connection flight in O'hare was missed...so I am chillin here in a bar watching the CHI-GB game with an assortment of fans but mostly Bears fans. It's really making up for the 6 hour delay I have incurred to watch this game with Bears and Pack fans. 'Murica!


...and thank you Pack for blowing out the Bears so we could switch to the end of the Bucs game!


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