2014 NFL Regular Season, Week 7
 

Enter the Browns.

Are we going to see two ties this year?

I thought the NFL was moving past this stupid walk it off mentality towards concussions. From Marvin Lewis:

There was a lot of talk on local sports radio about that, very very stupid thing for Marvin Lewis to say.

The key, Marvin, is we now have research that shows they linger well past the stage where you used to think they lingered...

Tom-Tom Brady...

Am I the only one that just walked up and smacked their TV? It's just a pavlovian response to seeing that guy, some people just have this look that make you want to smack them upside the head.

Fucking run defense Patriots. Jeezus.

It's very frustrating, they always seem to be in position but can't quite make the play.

I bet a coworker lunch today, who is a Browns fan, that the Browns would lose one of the next 3 games vs the Raiders, JAgs, and Buccs.

Maybe the effect of the short week coupled with losing Mayo?

Could the Jets actually pull this out

WOW

3rd and Goal from the 19 and Brady scrambles and finds Amendola who catches the ball behind him while in mid-jump and comes down in the endzone.

Jets answer - can they get that conversion?

It's disgusting to me that the Jets are still in this game.

Nope!

Ugh

This is ugly two minute offense, they have no right even having a chance.

So well done by the Jets on that drive? What was the announcer smoking?

Was pretty ugly the Pats couldn't get a first down with 2:33 left in order to kill the game off too though.

Crack. He was smoking crack.

Won't complain if that is the Pats team that shows up in two and half weeks at Gillette against the Broncos:-)

As much as its fun to pick on Rex...I don't know what more I'd expect from this Jets team than what he's done. Sure you don't want them at 1-6, but given their schedule so far, its certainly not totally unexpected.

I mean, lets be honest here. Gino Smith is NOT an Andrew Luck talent that is just not being groomed along well enough. While I wouldn't put all of the losses on him necessarily, there is a ceiling on what he can do to actually win games (not just "not lose them"). And I'm not so sure his ceiling is much higher than what we've seen.

2000 Ravens scenarios aside....I don't understand what Jets ownership could possibly be thinking Rex should be doing better (assuming they do fire him). I mean, that was the way it worked in the 80s, 90s, and into the 00s...but I thought we've learned from the coaching carousels of those days to know when the coach is to blame vs "we just aren't a good enough team". I guess thats why they are still the Jets.

I can't imagine any scenario where I'd watch the jets play

My expectations are low. They made Geno Smith look like a legit NFL QB last night.

I think Geno has potential to be something, but I feel like the OC in New York has no idea how to craft an offense to suit his strengths.. They do have a strong run game this year, a nice one two punch, but the defense is done. They're not even average. If this was the old Jets D with the current offense, they might actually be a threat like when they went to the playoffs with Sanchez.

What a clickbait headline.

That's stupid. Refs do stuff like that every game. If the goal of a penalty is to avoid situations that may cause injuries - I'd be upset if the refs didn't atleast try to remove that situation from the start. I'm no Pats fan, but I agree it is pure clickbait.

Dola, I also think it's a stupid penalty to begin with. If you're going to have a penalty to prevent defenders from getting into situations where they may injure someone - I would think outlawing a corner blitz would be more useful. Plenty of QBs (ie, Troy Aikman and Steve Young) have suffered brutal concussions as a result of blind side CB blitzes. Of course, this is football and the point is often to hit the opponent hard. So, the idea of penalizing where someone lines up because they "may" do an illegal hit is a little silly.

We've got a tough 6 game stretch coming up... I'm guessing we go at least 3-3, but no idea which ones we win. :confused:

Pats and Jets games always seem to reference an oddity in results. I'm not panicking, yet.

If the Pats can beat Miami and Buffalo, they'll be in good shape for the division again. How that will result for an AFC seeding, I don't know.

I'm not panicking... I could just easily see us beating Denver or winning at Indy and SD while losing to Chicago or Detroit. Even 2-4 in that stretch puts us at 7-6 with games vs Buffalo/Miami/Jets to close it out.

Percy Harvin to the Jets? Per Jay Glazer.

Wow...

Guess it's Carroll who's losing the locker room in the NFC West.

Wow.

I would really like to know what the Jets gave up. The Seahawks spent a lot last year to get him, and have used him effectively.

That's crazy.

Seattle will receive a conditional draft pick in 2015, which will range from a second- to fourth-round pick, a source told ESPN's John Clayton.

Yes that is crazy.Might be bad news for the rest of the AFC East. They got on one side Decker and Harvin on the other.

Cap reasons are completely out, unless the Seahawks want to turn around and trade for someone expensive.

Is Harvin putting in the work? Well, he's getting 7.4 TAs (touch attempts) per game and that has generated enough yardage and chance for the big play that opponents have to game-plan against his specific contributions from the slot.

He is slightly injured, but not enough that the Jets have a problem acquiring $6 million worth of salary for this season.

He must be a tremendous PITA in the locker room. Either that, or the conditional is likely to be the 2 and the Seahawks were hoping for more of a deep threat.

you really consider that effective?

I think you can definitely argue that he was a dynamic threat in the offense and even if stats aren't nuts, teams had to consider him in game planning. Now he's gone and they don't have anything to replace that... And this is a team that had the talent to win the super bowl. I think it's pretty weird, and can only really see it if he's the biggest headache in the locker room.

That 2nd rounder is likely to be in the 30s. I like Seattle's receivers. If he's truly a pain in the ass, moving him is a no brainer.

I don't think this damages Seattle's chances of repeating.

Harvin feels like a 'fuck you' to the next GM/Head Coach combo of the Jets.

Hopefully Winston to the Jets happens just so they can keep their plans to be the east coast version of the Raiders alive.

As a Cardinal fan, I am very glad Seattle traded Harvin before my beloved Cardinals had to play them this season.

Seems to be a bit of bizarre timing by the Jets coming off a loss that sent them to 1-6. Jets likely have to get to 9-7 to have a chance to make the playoffs, and with a shaky QB starting, not sure how much this will help them reach that goal. Though maybe they are looking at this as a move for the future rather than this season.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...e-percy-harvin

harvin has no guaranteed money after this year, and the jets had $20 million in cap space left this year, so absorbing the approx 6-7 million left this year is no problem. they can cut him at the end of the year with no cap hit, and if he's so bad, the conditional will probably be a 4th and that is worth the shot on a talent like harvin. if he's good, they could always renegotiate the deal to make it more team friendly if they want to keep him around.

If the Jets don't keep him long term it's a wasted draft pick. They aren't going anywhere this year, so this deal is silly unless it's for the future.

Eric Decker needs someone across from him to do stuff. This is the sort of move they should have done all along. Its low risk at this point, though, even if oit doesn;t pan out long term.

This was definitely done for cap reasons, albeit going forward, not this season. Sherman, Thomas and Chancellor got their big deals, and Wilson and the whole LB core all need new contracts by 2016 (plus guys like Lynch and Okung who aren't really underpaid.) Somebody had to go, and waiting until the offseason to choose Harvin would have added $5m to their 2016 cap. (There is also the extra few million they can now add on to their 2015 cap via rollover, but I'll admit I don't fully understand that.)

Can Harvin even run a route tree? Admittedly I've only seen the highlights and gadget type plays but is he even a WR? The Jets certainly need playmakers but I'm not sure this helps Decker out at all.

Can he do that though? He seems to be more effective as a slot receiver or running reverses. A dynamic/luxury addition to a functioning offense, not someone who can carry the load or that you can build around on a failing one.

Is it really low-risk for a team with as many holes as the Jets have to give up draft picks? I feel like everyone loses in this trade:

-The Jets are giving up assets for an expensive, temporary player who will do nothing more than make their future draft picks (which they have less of now anyway) worse.
-The Seahawks are admitting that they made a terrible move by trading for Harvin, selling him low, and getting back...nothing that helps a team whose window of opportunity is now.

Yep. If they made this trade a month ago it would have been great, but now it's giving up assets for a season that's already lost. It's pretty clear it's about Idzik and Ryan keeping their jobs.

Percy harvin could be the difference between 3-13 and 4-12

Yeah but why bother getting Harvin just to try & go 3-13. :P

As a Seahawks fan, it was obvious something was wrong with the offense. The last 2 games have been an ugly win and an ugly loss, and the San Diego game makes 3 ugly games for the offense. The team is basically saying Harvin was the problem, and mostly because of off the field issues, such as punching Tate during the SB week, almost getting into it with Wilson this year, etc. I think the cap savings were secondary (I read that his dead money next year is somewhere around 7 mill). We'll see how it goes going forward.

Some of my rapid fire thoughts on this.

1) I thought Harvin was the main difference in The Super Bowl last year. The Denver defense was badly injured going into the game and his first few plays really set the tone. Then he essentially ended any prayer of a second half rally by returning that kick for the TD at the start of half #2.

2) Harvin was massive as a decoy and threat. I believe the Seahawks have a couple of other "toys" they want to use more, but time will tell if they are the difference maker Harvin is.

3) Look, they scored 26 points a game last year without him. This isn't going to hurt them in the regular season. The question will be what happens in the playoffs when a team curb stomps Lynch. (He ran all over SF in the NFC title game and NO in the divisional round, he didn't do jack in the Super Bowl, as I stated, those big plays and the threat of Harvin in the Super Bowl was huge)

4) I've stated that I think something is off with Seattle this year. With that said, I think people may be overreacting here. Their schedule has been nothing short of brutal. Packers, @SD, Denver, @Washington, Dallas. Combined record: 19-10. Take off Washington from that and it goes to 18-5 for the other 4 opponents. From the outside, this isn't a team in crisis mode.

5) Maybe things were really has bad behind closed doors as is being made out. The question for me is if Percey universally hated or if this was a 50/50 thing. Locker room divides can be overblown at times, at other times they can destroy a football team.

6) Either way, any opponent of the 'Hawks has to be happy today. They gave up a very talented player with nothing coming back in return this year. Anything that can weaken a potential team you'll play on the road to the Super Bowl is a good thing for your team.

Agreed - this season. But I'd much rather they'd have that money tied up in Harvin going forward than able to lock up the whole core and add the 3rd pass rusher they're desperately missing. (Which they've known about since the spring, hence why they were so mad when the Pats picked Easley in front of them.)

And yeah, no real idea what the Jets are doing.

Oh wow, now seeing it's a 6th that can become a 4th. Seahawks must have been 100% certain they were releasing him this off season cause his dead money basically is canceled out by the money they save this year.

And now the story is saying that he refused to go back in the game vs Dallas last week.

Plus had physical altercations with two of his fellow receivers (once in the buildup to the SB and the second causing both to miss practice time) and rumored to also fought and nearly come to physical blows with his QB? Yeah, I don't see this as a bad decision, at all. He'll fit nicely on the traveling sideshow that is the Jets under Ryan.

Was that Tate banging Wilson's wife story true? I'm not sure mediatakeout or black sports online are the best source of info.

Where are ya folks reading all this stuff at? LINKS PLEASE!

Xxp://blacksportsonline.com/home/2014/10/harvin-allegedly-punched-golden-tate-for-sleeping-with-russell-wilsons-ex-wife/

There's a pic of Tate's wife next to Wilson's ex wife. They look very similar.

Sounds like an honest mistake to me then. :p

ESPN is reporting the Seahawks called the Broncos about a deal for Harvin. They wanted to talk about Julius Thomas.

I know this is ESPN. I know that a team can offer anything to anyone to kick the tires and start trade talks. That said, what exactly did the Seahawks expect here?

The only thing I can think of is the 'Hawks want to notify his agent of their interest for next off season and used this leak as a way to do it. Problem is, Denver will get one of the Thomas boys signed and franchise the other if they can't get both signed.

What a strange story.

Next five games for the Giants: at DAL, IND, at SEA, SF, DAL.
Last five games for the Giants: at JAX, at TEN, WAS, at STL, PHI

A pretty brutal five game stretch followed by a relatively easy 5 game stretch. With DAL and PHI at 5-1, I highly doubt the Giants will be able to sneak into the playoffs on a 9-7 record. They could both just go .500 the rest of the year and end up at 10-6.

The way I see it, if the GIants lose 3 of the next 5 games, they will need to run the table to have a shot at the playoffs. Possible with those 5 games at the end, with the last game vs. PHI being the only one that should (...should...) be a tough game if the Giants really are a playoff caliber team. If they manage to go 3-2 over the next 5, they get a bit of breathing room, but that last game vs. PHI will still be a must-win. (In just about any realistic scenario, that last game with PHI will be a must-win).

With the way the Giants' have played so far, I don't see 3-2 being very likely, and 2-3 might still be pushing it. None of their 3 wins have been against teams as good as the next five they are facing. And with Victor Cruz done of the year, it's hard to see how the Giants will suddenly start playing better and more consistent week-to-week.

Then again, this is the NFL and far stranger things have happened.

Rodgers picking apart Carolina's D. Playing 10 yards off Jordy Nelson probably isn't a good idea.

Soldier Field's turf is a god damn embarrassment.

wow what an incredible fake out by the punt return team for the Rams against the Seahawks. The team drifted right as if the punt was going right and he was going to fair catch it. Meanwhile the ball had actually gone left to a wide open returner...and he ran it all the way back for a TD. Go Rams!

Rams on a mission-had just one sack coming into this game-have three already in this game. Beginning to be very glad I did not pick Seattle this week for the Survival league

So is Trestman's alleged offensive prowess.

Cam Newton is having about as bad a half throwing the ball as I've seen in a while

The Bengals were obviously counting on a three week season this year.

Early thoughts:

1) The Rams always give the Seahawks a game, but this is bordering on lunacy. Their special teams is comical right now.

2) Tannehill was called out by his coach after the KC game. His last 10 quarters have been very, very good. (a couple of bad throws against the Packers, but overall terrific)

3) Carolina decided they didn't need to show up today from some reason. Packers are good, but the Panthers are beyond flat.

4) CJ Spiller is hurt. Talk about a season that looks so good to start and goes to hell so fast. Hopefully new ownership can get things fixed.

5) Bengals just don't look like the same team.

Bortles is looking pretty awful.

Buffalo without RB's Fred Jackson (groin) and now Spiller (took him off on a cart-looks like broken collarbone or dislocated shoulder?)

I'm not sure what Trestman is supposed to do to combat Cutler being Cutler.

Rivera just kicked a FG to make it 28-3 rather than go for it. Smart.

Those two cats just can't stay healthy.

Bengals outgained 268 to 27 in the first half. It's amazing that it's only 10-0.

There was, what, 3 seconds left and thjey were near the 15? I'm all for aggressive play. That just would have been stupid. He needed to kick the FG there and take the points.

Bortles, wtf.

Soooo Kirk Cousins is not the answer. No Matt Flynn'ing for him.

Rams Seahawks are a solid game - who'd havce hought?

Suck it Sherman!

Jeff Fisher with teh balls up call of the day

Browns wtf. Who fields a punt on the 3.

He clearly committed defensive holding or PI on the third down play. That isn't me being all over the refs, just watch the play. He holds him coming out of his cut and goes through him before the ball gets there.

It was perfect karma for them to call that play. Only question now is how many fights Seattle tries to start and what idiotic thing will come out of Sherman's mouth after the loss.

And nobody in the league gets away with that type of contact on pass plays outside of Sherman. Such a joke.

Good lord

Beyond a joke at this point. It was a point of emphasis on the league for EXACTLY that reason. There is no way he should have got away with that play. Disgusting.

And the Cleveland Browns remember they're the Cleveland Browns.

Gotta win the easy ones if you hope to win the division.

Who dey, right guys?

That Bengals/Colts game was difficult to watch.

TD LIONS!!!

Yeah I think they got caught up in their own hype and media attention this week after they beat Pitt. :( Jax didn't get into the red zone till the 3rd quarter and Bortles threw a buncn of INT's and you still only score 6 points.

A bunch of crazy finishes today, hope that trend does not continue in Oakland today with my beloved Cards

At keast my Survival pick would have been wrong no matter which one I went with. Glad to see the Rams finally hold on and win a big game.

No preparation from Bengals. Colts looked like they knew what was being run before it was run. They should all have to walk home.