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Dutch 01-23-2016 08:46 AM

Danny Kanell: Broncos should take late hit shots on Tom Brady

I really wanted to read this article, but Danny Kanell apparently says "you know" and "like" throughout his message....so MSN put's each and everyone into their article....I couldn't take it anymore and quit reading.

In this day and age, especially in the realm of sports, do quoatables have to include all that crap???

cthomer5000 01-23-2016 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch (Post 3079429)
In this day and age, especially in the realm of sports, do quoatables have to include all that crap???


If I was quoting something really stupid I would insist on including them.

mckerney 01-23-2016 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3078936)
Coin flip referee from Cardinals-Packers game assigned to Super Bowl 50

I guess according to the rules the coin doesn't have to flip. So imagine the outrage if the second flip came out tails instead of heads a second time.


I thought for sure it would be the crew that left all the kicking balls back at their hotel.

CU Tiger 01-24-2016 03:16 PM

since there isnt a conference title thread...

Kind of surprised at how much pressure Denver is getting on Brady. Knew Denver's D was good, but this is better than I expected...

bhlloy 01-24-2016 03:19 PM

So far I am pleasantly surprised, I didn't think this was going to be that close. The Broncos game plan has been pretty much perfect on both sides of the ball so far.

Mizzou B-ball fan 01-24-2016 03:27 PM

Denver is making the plays on defense that KC missed out on. KC had two sure interceptions and dropped them both. Would have changed the game just like the two INT's from Denver have so far.

bhlloy 01-24-2016 03:38 PM

This Denver pass rush is incredible. They are clearly in Brady's head now, see if they can settle him down over half time

CU Tiger 01-24-2016 03:38 PM

Denver should be up at least another 7 maybe another 10.
They may live to regret not putting Brady away.

Solecismic 01-24-2016 03:50 PM

The Patriots are very lucky to be within 8 right now. Brady isn't accurate and he isn't making good decisions. I've never seen both in one game before. You can never rule Belichick out, but if this were any other team, I'd say this one's over.

TroyF 01-24-2016 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan (Post 3079660)
Denver is making the plays on defense that KC missed out on. KC had two sure interceptions and dropped them both. Would have changed the game just like the two INT's from Denver have so far.



I'm not really sure why people are surprised at the Denver defense. This IS the Denver defense and has been all year. You want to be one dimensional against this defense? Good luck. Remember, this was the defense you said was living off of their first half. Due to the KC injuries, they had 0 sacks adn 1 QB hit the entire game. Denver has 2 sacks and 8 QB hits in the first half.

The surprise to me is how well Manning has played. His numbers don't look great, but he's throwing the ball down the field and has been crisp. The Denver running game gets better as the game goes along due to the altitude.

The Patriots are going to adjust at halftime. I expect more passes to the running backs and I think they'll roll the pocket out a little to protect Brady. To win the game, Denver needs to make sure the turnover battle is even and continue to pressure Brady. Brady is NOT going to be held down all game. The question is if the Denver offense can have some success and the defense can get another turnover or two to ice it.

If the Denver offense dies, the Patriots will win this football game.

cthomer5000 01-24-2016 04:16 PM

Hah, love the surprise by his own teammates at Peyton running with the ball.

kingfc22 01-24-2016 04:21 PM

Pats o-line is getting embarrassed.

cuervo72 01-24-2016 04:28 PM

Stop running backwards to avoid sacks. You're not R. Wilson.

cuervo72 01-24-2016 04:30 PM

NFL Playoffs - Conference Round
 
Creating a new thread for it.

jeff061 01-24-2016 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfc22 (Post 3079672)
Pats o-line is getting embarrassed.


This is how their o line looks every week when they aren't getting it out in 1 second. They are just plain bad. Consistently.

jeff061 01-24-2016 04:37 PM

I'd love this shit Simms and Nantz tandem to zero in on why they haven't been able to get it out quickly like they have in every single other one of Edelmans games. As opposed to constantly harping on an offensive line that is playing at the same level they always do.

Danny 01-24-2016 04:39 PM

It would be nice to see a couple of mobile quarterbacks in Newton and manning going head to head in the super owl

jeff061 01-24-2016 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TroyF (Post 3079668)
I'm not really sure why people are surprised at the Denver defense. This IS the Denver defense and has been all year. You want to be one dimensional against this defense? Good luck. Remember, this was the defense you said was living off of their first half. Due to the KC injuries, they had 0 sacks adn 1 QB hit the entire game. Denver has 2 sacks and 8 QB hits in the first half.

The surprise to me is how well Manning has played. His numbers don't look great, but he's throwing the ball down the field and has been crisp. The Denver running game gets better as the game goes along due to the altitude.

The Patriots are going to adjust at halftime. I expect more passes to the running backs and I think they'll roll the pocket out a little to protect Brady. To win the game, Denver needs to make sure the turnover battle is even and continue to pressure Brady. Brady is NOT going to be held down all game. The question is if the Denver offense can have some success and the defense can get another turnover or two to ice it.

If the Denver offense dies, the Patriots will win this football game.


These are exactly my thoughts at the half as well. Promising the defense for the Pats have stepped up since. But Pats need to get back in the end zone.

Alf 01-24-2016 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TroyF (Post 3079668)
The Denver running game gets better as the game goes along due to the altitude.


And they just have a big rushing gain in Q4.

miami_fan 01-24-2016 04:52 PM

Hit them in the knees! WTF

Edward64 01-24-2016 04:59 PM

Rooting for Denver so Peyton can get his second and retire.

cuervo72 01-24-2016 05:11 PM

Man, they can't cover White can they.

bob 01-24-2016 05:11 PM

That was a pretty late flag on the defensive holding.

JPhillips 01-24-2016 05:14 PM

Terrible challenge. It would serve them right to see NE get the first down.

cthomer5000 01-24-2016 05:14 PM

This is gonna be hilarious when they rule it a catch, down by contact, and first down.

total WTF challenge by Denver.

cuervo72 01-24-2016 05:15 PM

Not sure that's a good challenge. I think if he DID have it (which I don't think he did), his knee might have been down before the ball came out.

Glengoyne 01-24-2016 05:15 PM

Best challenge ever!

Now if only the NFL can figure out if it was a catch.

JPhillips 01-24-2016 05:18 PM

Gronk: "He grabbed my arm.
My other shoulder.
My ribcage."

JonInMiddleGA 01-24-2016 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cthomer5000 (Post 3079689)
This is gonna be hilarious when they rule it a catch, down by contact, and first down.

total WTF challenge by Denver.


Glad I'm not the only one who thought that was a bad move.

cthomer5000 01-24-2016 05:19 PM

I really wish teams would call a flea-flicker in that situation. Where everyone "knows" you're just going to run it an attempt to run out the clock.

kingfc22 01-24-2016 05:22 PM

Looking back at it. Pats probably should have kicked that FG on the first 4th down attempt. Their defense has held twice and given them shots at a TD.

frnk55 01-24-2016 05:22 PM

This is where NE pulls it out of their ass.

cuervo72 01-24-2016 05:23 PM

How stacked they were on the line I agree that they might have tried *something* other than a run. I know that we get on coaches for not exhausting timeouts and not running the clock, but the clock and the timeouts are a non-issue now. And they couldn't have really run off much time with the 2:00 warning sitting there.

Glengoyne 01-24-2016 05:25 PM

These last two drives/opportunities are really good demonstrations for why you don't go for it on fourth down with six and a half minutes left.

Because I'm pretty sure three field goals is nine points.

sabotai 01-24-2016 05:27 PM

Denver really missing their starting safeties now. Game is over if they're not hurt.

cthomer5000 01-24-2016 05:28 PM

Thank god for the super liberal intentional grounding rules these days, huh?

cuervo72 01-24-2016 05:29 PM

No shit. That one where he was spun around went near *nobody*.

frnk55 01-24-2016 05:29 PM

No surprise. NE never looses

Edward64 01-24-2016 05:30 PM

Great clutch TD catch.

CU Tiger 01-24-2016 05:31 PM

agreed about the (lack of) intentional grounding calls being close, but I guess I am glad they let them play

kingfc22 01-24-2016 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glengoyne (Post 3079699)
These last two drives/opportunities are really good demonstrations for why you don't go for it on fourth down with six and a half minutes left.

Because I'm pretty sure three field goals is nine points.


This.

frnk55 01-24-2016 05:32 PM

Thank God. I can watch the superbowl.

Alf 01-24-2016 05:32 PM

Don't they know it's going to get to Gronk ??

bhlloy 01-24-2016 05:32 PM

Miller has been getting held on every single play the whole drive. Game over anyway.

JPhillips 01-24-2016 05:32 PM

Get down Roby!

CU Tiger 01-24-2016 05:33 PM

1- Should have been a holding call before Brady ever threw the ball
2- Why in the blue hell didnt he get on the ground ASAP

sabotai 01-24-2016 05:33 PM

Would have been really something if a Pats player picked that fumble up and ran it in for the 2 point conversion.

cuervo72 01-24-2016 05:33 PM

Yay.

frnk55 01-24-2016 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3079710)
Get down Roby!

WTF is he thinking?

bhlloy 01-24-2016 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 3079708)
Don't they know it's going to get to Gronk ??


They just can't stop it. I'm not sure I wouldn't try to have Von Miller as one of the guys to cover him, he's the only player who is big and athletic enough to do it. It sounds absurd to say you can't cover a guy with a safety and a corner, but you saw the results

kingfc22 01-24-2016 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frnk55 (Post 3079707)
Thank God. I can watch the superbowl.


Two weeks of "Will this be Manning's last game?" Joy....:rolleyes:

JPhillips 01-24-2016 05:34 PM

Manning winning a SB as a Trent Dilfer impersonator would be quite a story.

SirFozzie 01-24-2016 05:36 PM

Congrats to the Broncos. They played better. We were lucky to be in it at the end

cuervo72 01-24-2016 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frnk55 (Post 3079714)
WTF is he thinking?


Well...if he would have run it back (and he had what, one guy to beat?) that's a 4-point game, and makes an onsides kick/FG moot. Though yeah, other than that just get down.

tucker rocky 01-24-2016 05:36 PM

Never fails for a missed extra point to come into play at the end.

jeff061 01-24-2016 05:36 PM

Pats got what they deserved for backing into the playoffs. Denver played a great game and deserved to win. Congrats to them.

Ben E Lou 01-24-2016 05:37 PM

:)

Edward64 01-24-2016 05:37 PM

Yup, congrats Bronco and Peyton.

Alf 01-24-2016 05:38 PM

For once, Bellichick lost the game with the "no kicking" FG.

JonInMiddleGA 01-24-2016 05:41 PM

In honor of Royal Rumble Sunday, a little something for the Cheatriots

The New Age Outlaws we've got two words for you - YouTube

jeff061 01-24-2016 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 3079725)
For once, Bellichick lost the game with the "no kicking" FG.


Huh?

cthomer5000 01-24-2016 05:47 PM

No, you should definitely have more plastic surgery. You can never have too much!

Glengoyne 01-24-2016 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 3079725)
For once, Bellichick lost the game with the "no kicking" FG.



That was so frustrating to watch, but I did say 'well it is Bellichick, he'll probably be right.'

frnk55 01-24-2016 05:48 PM

OMG!! Her face!!

Marmel 01-24-2016 05:51 PM

Manning 3-1 vs Brady in AFC title games. I like the sound of that!

bhlloy 01-24-2016 05:51 PM

Not kicking the FG to go to a 5 point game with that much time left really is a horrible move though, no matter who you are and who your QB is - especially when you saw what the Denver front did to him all game.

TroyF 01-24-2016 05:52 PM

My thoughts on the game:

1) I guess pissed off Brady can't win every game himself. What a shock.

2) The excuses the Patriots (players, this is not directed at anyone on this board) gave last game was garbage reffing and injuries. Well, if the two Denver safeties were not hurt, the game never gets to where it did. Second, Von Miller was held on just about every single Patriots play in the final 5 minutes of the game. It was comical. The stunning thing is he was still getting there.

3) Manning is now 3-1 against Brady in AFC Championship games. (no, Manning didn't win this game, but when NE beats Manning due to a better defense he gets the credit so fair is fair)

4) Even with the 2 4th down miracles, the Patriots went 4-19 on 3rd or 4th down situations. The Patriots went a combined 6-33 in those situations in the two games in Denver this year. There isn't really a need to go into any further stat than that one right there. Against the rest of the NFL the Patriots converted 43.98% of the time in those situations this year. Against the Denver defense, they converted 18.18% Game over.

5) The Broncos will be underdogs in the Superbowl vs no matter who they play. The gameplan will need to stay the exact same way as today. Limit turnovers, be good on third downs and keep running the football. (even if you don't get yards, run it no matter what) This defense will keep them in the game. (I'm assuming both safeties will be ready) The offense will need to do something.

JonInMiddleGA 01-24-2016 05:55 PM

Against 'Zona, I think Denver at least has a chance.
Against Carolina, things might get really really really ugly.

rowech 01-24-2016 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhlloy (Post 3079733)
Not kicking the FG to go to a 5 point game with that much time left really is a horrible move though, no matter who you are and who your QB is - especially when you saw what the Denver front did to him all game.


Tough decision because they hadn't really been moving the ball the whole game. Either way it was both a good and bad decision at the same time. #Heisenberg

Radii 01-24-2016 06:06 PM

I'm loving the pressure from the Carolina D so far.

bhlloy 01-24-2016 06:10 PM

Refs letting a lot go in this one so far

TroyF 01-24-2016 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3079735)
Against 'Zona, I think Denver at least has a chance.
Against Carolina, things might get really really really ugly.


I agree. . . but the gameplan can't change no matter who it is. Just like today, Denver really only has one way to win the football game. They try to do anything other than make the game ugly and they'll get throttled.

What the hell, I've dealt with plenty of Super Bowl blowouts before. Cowboys, Giants, Washington, 49ers, Seattle. . . . I've lived through all of them.

I will say that nothing would shock me with this defense. It's the real deal and has kept Denver in just about every game this season. (only KC was a two score game and it was only 29-13 despite the Chiefs starting field position being over the 50 yard line)

Panthers look scary good though.

cthomer5000 01-24-2016 06:22 PM

The Cardinals called that one straight out the Tecmo Super Bowl playbook.

cthomer5000 01-24-2016 06:25 PM

...that play never worked in Tecmo either.

Eaglesfan27 01-24-2016 06:27 PM

Carolina looks scary good.

cuervo72 01-24-2016 06:27 PM

Dang, he reared back on that one.

frnk55 01-24-2016 06:27 PM

Yikes. Might be time to watch some netflix :)

bronconick 01-24-2016 06:30 PM

If I turn this off, are they going to fall asleep in the second half?

NobodyHere 01-24-2016 06:38 PM

I'm starting to miss Manning vs Brady

JPhillips 01-24-2016 06:39 PM

I think it's time for X-Files.

Radii 01-24-2016 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronconick (Post 3079748)
If I turn this off, are they going to fall asleep in the second half?


I'd just recommend not turning it off given recent history :P

miami_fan 01-24-2016 06:55 PM

That was perfect execution of the Daniel Bryan running knee by the Arizona TE.

Radii 01-24-2016 07:01 PM

Davis isn't quite as important as Kuechly or Norman, but that is a big injury for Carolina :(

TroyF 01-24-2016 07:02 PM

Good lord.

cthomer5000 01-24-2016 07:03 PM

I always enjoy a guy signaling "my bad" when there is zero debate about whose fault something was.

NobodyHere 01-24-2016 07:03 PM

*facepalm*

cuervo72 01-24-2016 07:05 PM

1. I *think* they might have been checking if #42 touched the ball while he was out of bounds.
2. Did Ginn even SEE that ball?

Galaril 01-24-2016 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frnk55 (Post 3079731)
OMG!! Her face!!


Yes for sure frightening!

cuervo72 01-24-2016 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cthomer5000 (Post 3079766)
I always enjoy a guy signaling "my bad" when there is zero debate about whose fault something was.


I was yelling that at the screen/my wife. NO CRAP it was your fault, Peterson!

cthomer5000 01-24-2016 07:19 PM

That was a hilarious few minutes.

Radii 01-24-2016 07:21 PM

well that got weird to end the half.

Galaril 01-24-2016 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3079735)
Against 'Zona, I think Denver at least has a chance.
Against Carolina, things might get really really really ugly.


I luv it! Sounds about what was coming out of Pats camp prior the game sowould be great for Denver. Frankly I could care less who wins the SB 50 this was the SB thi s afternoon for us ;-)

tucker rocky 01-24-2016 07:25 PM

Arizona shooting themselves in the foot.

Peterson muffs the punt,
Carolina scores TD,
Palmer fumbles the ball,
Newton throws INT,
Peterson returns to put them in excellent scoring range,
Palmer throws INT.

Thomkal 01-24-2016 07:36 PM

pretty disgusted with Palmer and the Cards right now. Just when I thought they were getting into a rhythm, the Peterson fumble was just horrible.

Radii 01-24-2016 07:46 PM

I would have liked to see a TD but burning 7 minutes and getting points to open the second half feels really important.

JAG 01-24-2016 08:02 PM

Holy Cam.

JPhillips 01-24-2016 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3079781)
pretty disgusted with Palmer and the Cards right now. Just when I thought they were getting into a rhythm, the Peterson fumble was just horrible.


I feel your pain. This looks a lot like almost every Bengals playoff game since Palmer left.

cthomer5000 01-24-2016 08:37 PM

Arizona never really showed up for this one.

Thomkal 01-24-2016 08:41 PM

well I've seen enough. Congrats to the Panthers and their fans. At least I'll have a team to root for in the Super Bowl.

Atocep 01-24-2016 08:42 PM

Greg Olsen is going to end his career with a legit HoF case. I doubt he gets in, but if he played in a bigger market he'd be a lock with a Super Bowl win.


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