Racism in the News
 

I do think the Roseanne Barr issue thread-jacked the Random Thoughts thread so I am creating a separate one for our discussion. I didn't see another thread dedicated to these news stories.

Just like anything else, I know discussions can get heated but most of us are okay arguing and then agreeing to disagree. Hopefully we will learn something from different points of view and be able to empathize more.

I do understand this is an especially sensitive topic so I'm fine if the Mods prefer to remove it.

Is this thread about the Trump rally in Nashville right now?

Did a quick look and didn't see anything that was racist? Lots of lies and misdirection though.

It's especially relevant that the Roseanne story comes out on the same day that we find out 4600 people died in Puerto Rico, likely many that were preventable after the fact if we'd given a shit about it.

But yeah, this is absolutely orgasmic for CNN. The Puerto Rico story doesn't even make their front page. Go figure.

I find this to be interesting in the context of it coming from a comedian. I think people like Roseanne don't understand or appreciate the difference between their act and participating in political commentary on social media. In some sense, I can understand from their perspective that there's a blurring of lines when they are used to saying whatever they want and not only "getting away with it," but it's what made them famous.

What she said was not part of a comedy routine, it wasn't particularly funny (nor was it really intended to be, as it was more of a political shot than a joke), and it obviously crossed very bright lines. But comedians use racial stereotypes all the time in their routines. Obviously, Don Rickles would have a hard time existing today, but you've got examples like Lisa Lampanellli who are active right now as well. I just think this is an example of an aging comedy veteran saying what she thinks in the context of a joke and being oblivious to the firestorm she was creating. Not that she wasn't wrong, but I can see how it happened.

What really interests me are the seemingly random ways we decide who gets burned and who gets a pass. Gilbert Gottfried makes a tsunami joke and he can no longer be the voice of an advertising duck. Ice T lives in this dual world of actor and musician where he's screaming MFer every 3 seconds and he's doing lemonade stand commercials for Geico.

So very true

I wonder why/whats going on here?

2 in one week (that was captured on video). Full story missing but wonder if this has always happened or just a result of Trump?

Racist Driver Berates Asian-American Family: 'Go Back To Your Country, B***h' | HuffPost

Hola China?

Yeah, I saw that. She was obviously spouting whatever.

Couldn't see much of the guy in the passenger side, wonder what he was thinking.

I had to rent a house while mine was being repaired after Irma and after asking a neighbor to stop his dog from attempting to attack mine though MY fence at the rental (for some reason he always let his dog loose in the neighborhood in the evening) ....I was told to 'go back to where I came from' ...

From that day onward he was forever dubbed 'Racist Bob' when I mentioned him ... and yes, before anyone asks he was a proud Trump supporter.

Awfully un-neighborly of him.

After 2 years of owning a dog as an adult, most dog owners are jerks when it comes to keeping their dog under control.

A little of A, a little of B. Stuff like this has always happened, but Trump makes them much more frequent and emboldens some of the more cowardly racists to be more overt about their beliefs.

TBF I don't see this. I'm a dog owner and there are a bunch of dog owners in my subdivision (maybe its because its a subdivision?). For the most part we are all nice.

Most of the time it's "who didn't clean up after their dog". We did have one jerk who refused to keep dog on leash (and invisible fence working) but that was an exception.

Once every 1-2 weeks, there's a picture post on FB about seeing someone's dog running loose and the neighborhood quickly resolves that.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/28/us/ch...dnapping-intl/

Then there's weird shit like this (about a week or two old, but just saw it)

I feel like this can vary wildly on a neighborhood by neighborhood basis. I lived in a small house in a nice neighborhood, I was charged by off-leash dogs all the time while I was walking my dog. I started carrying pepper spray after I got bit. Then I moved to a bigger house in a much worse neighborhood in the same city, and I've had zero dog issues. One or two dogs are off leash in their yard but they just sit there as we walk by. I walked my dog twice a day for 30-45 minutes each time for 2 years at both locations and the difference is ridiculous.

And add in the liberal media jumping on any story that has a whiff of racism and splashing it al over the place.
There have always been incidents like these, but with the availability of information to everyone at anytime, these things are pushed to the front a lot easier.

Im not sure people have been that emboldened by Trump. I feel like people are getting tired of the PC culture getting shoved down their throats, and their actions are an extreme response.

Well also as more and more folks have cell phones with decent video capabilities, and social media is more and more ubiquitous, it makes it easy to share this sort of nonsense that had already been happening.

:rolleyes:

PC was 20 years ago. It's SJW culture that occasionally goes overboard (mostly Tumblrinas that have a little awareness of a few things and take it in completely wrong directions, often with false interpretations and misinformation. Which is a shame, because SJWs and feminists in and of themselves have done a lot of important work in raising awareness and highlighting important issues. It's the fringe elements of those movements that are extreme and mistaken for the majority of the groups due to their vocal nature, thereby tarring the movements with an unwarranted broad brush.

The same thing can be said about these people getting caught doing racist things. A whole group is being painted with the same brush as these racist fools.
I think what you are saying could be said about you when you say that it is Trumps fault. Its Trump that takes the fall with people when iut is the fringe element that causes the issues. These people have always been out there, and as IS said about phones and social media, it comes to the fore front.

It goes both ways. Cant be one or the other.

Interesting.

The article calls it "racist". I'm not sure, if it is its kinda tame by today's standards I guess.

Einstein's diaries contain shocking details of his racism | Fox News

Starting to feel sorry for Roseanne.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/25/enter...iew/index.html

Her twitter feed is full of garbage, but right now, towards the top is a retweet of this ironic gem:

I think she got what she deserved.

Yeah probably.

I did have a colleague that took ambien and went to sleep on a flight. When he landed, people were telling him he was talking and socializing with them and he had no recollection.

This is probably better placed here than in the MLB thread. Which is it?

Insensitive comments?

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sp...nts/739585002/

Racial charged comments?

https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2018/06/27...rged-comments/

Or Racist comments?

https://nypost.com/2018/06/27/tigers...r-racist-rant/

I also have an experience of blacking out after taking Ambien and then apparently socializing and even playing chess.

Seems to be some irresponsible reporting going on. While it could have been racial, I see nothing other than speculation. Going from insensitive to full blown racist rant with no report of what the comments actually was seems more than a stretch.

It may turn out that it was racial, but let the evidence come out before casting judgment.

So I guess I can easily believe Roseanne saying she took ambien and didn't mean to say those things.

But she is a big girl with lots of money. And she is a Trump supporter.

True. On the other hand, the Tigers have the evidence and they laid down their judgement. The Tigers GM specifically made a point of not saying whether it was racial or sexual. And they said that is the last thing they are going to say about the matter. So I guess all we are going to get is speculation from here now on. I honestly think they did Bosio a favor to be honest in the end by not saying anything.

What about the other dozen or so times she said stuff?

I'm sure Ambien can mess with memory but I don't think it turns you into something you're not.

Yeah, look at her twitter feed. The whole thing is a cesspool.

If this is what it does to her she obviously takes it a helluva lot and has for oh, the last 30+ years.

I'd be more apt to giver her a pass if this was an isolated incident, but she has pushed the envelope for her entire career and having a twitter account just allows her to put her foot in her mouth to a wider audience now.

Based on personal experience working front desk at a hotel in the rural part of Western NC, Trump being president HAS made bigoted rhetoric more frequent. I hear it in gas stations around town, I heard it on my lunch breaks when I worked at the flooring plant last winter too.. How a "straight white man" is gonna fix shit. I kept my mouth shut at the time as hard as it was to do so, since I had to work with these people. Since his election, I've checked in way more loudmouths who openly brag about how Trump is on their side and he's gonna get rid of the "towelheads" and the "wetbacks". At the time he became president we had a few white workers here that took that as an opportunity to start shit with our housekeepers (mexican housekeepers) talking about Trump like he was right outside with a bus waiting to take them back across the border. They called my boss a sand nigger to his face after he fired them despite the fact that he had hired all of them when they really needed work and had also given them financial assistance when they needed it which they never repaid. If there were enough black people around I am sure I would hear more about them too. My black neighbor who had to move away was always talking about how much he dealt with on a daily basis in town and how it took all his forgiveness sometimes to not retaliate.

It isn't all the media's doing. Places like where I live are cesspools of ignorance and Fox News fed hysteria and the things I hear make me physically ill sometimes because it is all so bigoted and ridiculous.

Followers of leaders draw power and take cues from that leadership, and when the leadership is a pompous ass with no decorum who lies for his own benefit, you can bet his followers are right behind him going "Yeah, fuck you, fuck you and fuck you too" to anyone who even tries to engage them.

I bet if you were able to poll the locals here and get the answer of what they really think deep in their hearts, you'd find close to 50% of them would totally love to go back to the days of lynchings and segregated everything.

I actually didn't know about the other stuff (never was a Roseanne fan) just the last incident which is when she was referring to the ambien. I've didn't hear of other incidents with her but I can believe it.

I would agree, if she has a history of saying this stuff and she has been taking ambien, she can't blame all/most of it on ambien. (Just stop taking it and find another way to sleep)

This is the lynching segregated NC that carried (I dont know the right word, but they voted him) Obama in both elections, right?

I mean granted you are in the backwood mountain most rural piece of the state, but still lets not forget recent history.

Are you saying he didn't actually experience this?

Trump was created as a backlash of the last 20 or so years. The media narrative has been about building up minorities. If you questioned whether a minority is good at a position, you were labeled a racist. EDIT: regardless of their performance at their position.

In this past election, you have a narcissist that declares he is running for office. He has never been in politics before, and he says whatever is on his mind. You have people that have felt muzzled and that no one had been listening to them for the previous 10-15 years flock to him. He is saying whatever comes to mind regardless of consequence. His opponents are life long politicians who have delivered on very few, if any, of the promises that were made to these voters. They turn to the outsider for a few reasons, he has not lied to them yet, and they feel they can trust him because he will say what is on his mind.

In the run up to the election, a Clinton presidency was presented as a foregone conclusion. How big was the landslide going to be? Instead, Trump wins. Immediately, demonstrations break out. Allegations that the election was rigged. This dominates the news for months. The voters who elected Trump become concerned that this victory is going to be taken away from them. The media (actual news media, but also including celebrities here) talks about how stupid and ignorant 50% of the country is for voting for him, including those who voted for him because he was the lesser of two evils.

With all this going on, we're surprised that these people are going to speak their minds? Unfortunately, many of these people that felt they did not have a voice are racist and blame many of the evils today on minorities.

White People Are Cowards

Don't know much about The Root or Michael Harriot but is this some racism in the news?

Bosio has given his side of the story.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ach/742383002/

No. Im sure Julio heard those things. Im also sure I can work in certain other areas in NC and hear African Americans disparage whites or Mexicans. or hear Mexicans ridicule whomever.


He happens to live in the heart of yokel...if you have ever watched the show moonshiners those NC boys are 20 minutes from him, Of course there is backwoods ignornant speech there. Im just saying its tough to swallow that 50% want to go back to segregationalist south when its a state that twice elected a black President.


Remember NC is/was a swing state. Much different than SC where I'm convinced they'd vote for the ghost of Hitler so long as you put an elephant beside his name, in most counties....

I agree with this for the most part

The one quibble I have is with the narrative. Based on my personal experience, I think it a bit unfair to say that whites (or non minorities) are upset about the “building up of minorities” narrative. At least this is where I am giving them the benefit of the doubt. The narrative that is bothersome is that negative coverage towards whiteness (or non-minorities).

Also, at some point we may need to have a discussion about how we define minorities and non- minorities as the demographics continue to change.

Julio seems to be indicating, though, that the racist talk has increased. It's possible, of course, that he just moved there and doesn't really know, but I suspect he has been there long enough to see what changes have happened in the place from under Obama to what it is now. Considering that, it seems to me anyway, he is saying that since Trump's victory and rhetoric he has seen more overt racism in his neck of the woods, which would appear to be potentially relevant.

Yeah, it really is the location I think. Asheville is less than an hour away and is one of the more liberal places I have been, but here in Bryson the roads go back deep into these woods and the people are mostly long term, firmly entrenched lifers in a small town in rural, southern america.

It might not be more prevalent, but it has become more brazen really. I think before it would be whispers here and there, but it was generally under the surface. Those people who used to whisper with their buddies in the back are just talking louder now and less afraid than they were before. They are, by definition, emboldened by Trump. With that as my basis, I'd have to guess that anyone who is cut from the same cloth anywhere in America is likely to exhibit the same behavior. It might be a fairly small minority of people, but their voices have gotten louder since the election and I'd say that they are at least part of the crowd from which the added tension is originating.

I'd expect the same kind of emboldened talk from a minority of liberals if they were the ones in power, but it would just be a different type of bigotry - Part of that is due to social media, part of it is immaturity, part of it is a genuine hatred for the people who oppose their belief system. The only difference, I think, is that the democratic leadership in that situation would likely be the first to condemn the acts of their brethren as divisive and not an acceptable way to bring this country back from the brink it seems to be resting on. Trumps administration almost seems to revel in it.

This is just an extremely divided country right now and I don't think it'll heal without a tremendous voter turnout that swings the presidency, the house and the senate heavily blue for maybe half a century. I just don't think there are enough Republican candidates out there who want to bring their party back toward the middle to bring about a change if their party remains the majority.

We're divided among so many lines too.. Race, gender, income and age to name a few. This is almost certainly being aided by online presences from Russia and any other country that is interested in a weaker U.S. - They know how to sew seeds of division and we basically want to kill each other right now, leaving those countries to laugh at us chasing our tails while it all falls down around us.

According to Ken Rosenthal and Katie Strang at The Athletic (paywall):

Sources: Chris Bosio was fired for directing a racial slur at a clubhouse attendant – The Athletic


And the whole "Spider Monkey" defense..


So it seems like NBC and the NYPost were correct after all.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/29/us/ra...ric/index.html

Damn I am getting old. The George Allen controversy feels like it was more than just twelve years ago. The article does navigate some of the things that discussed in this thread.

This was in the news recently. There may be additional context but, as I read it, I don't see this as a racial issue.

I live in a subdivision in suburbia. We have a neighborhood watch and posted signs of non-solicitation. Its a relatively peaceful neighborhood but there have been car break-in's, vandalism etc.

Our subdivision FB has numerous posts about calling 911 for folks soliciting. African Americans, white, school kids, sometimes a religious parent & child, students wanting to sell something to help them do sometime etc. (admittedly, the only exception I've seen are girl scouts selling cookies).

Our HOA has said its is okay to call 911 and there's not been any feedback from the sheriff not to do so.

I can easily imagine a neighbor calling 911 on the woman if she was wandering around the neighborhood and it wouldn't be about race.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/...cement-n889276

Yeah, I doubt this was an incident that was racially driven, at least in that context. Racists don't strike me as an apologetic people. It'll still get lumped into the pile, which sucks. It's not productive to give your opponent any ground to stand on when you're arguing your side of something.

It's a problem I see with every movement really, there are always some fringe people who just want to make everything a controversy instead of thinking about the way it looks when you're the one who is flipping out over something so minor or made up that it becomes a detriment to the cause you are supposedly trying to support. Feminism, MeToo, Occupy Wall Street, and on and on ad nauseum.. All these ideas are ruined by people who join the movement with a misguided thought that they can make a difference by just finding something to get mad about and then screaming as loud as possible. Meanwhile there is a real message out there getting dragged through the mud behind a runaway dumb truck.

Turns out it wasn't racism or racial bias and the cop's body camera helped. Sad situation for the kid but good for the cop that was exonerated.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/23/us/at...boy/index.html

Let's combine racism with guns!

A new father was fatally shot after confronting a man who hurled the n-word at his friend, police say - The Washington Post

The n-word starts at about 3:10. It really goes from bad to worse after that with the buttocks.

TBH, I'm not sure he's a racist but he is definitely stupid.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/25/enter...gns/index.html

Yeah I saw it and he pretty much offended every minority in one shot.

There's no excuse.

I was thinking, "you're in GA, get yourself a carry permit".

Also, I have no idea what happened prior to the recording happening because that is a thing that has to be said.

Here's the video (couldn't get it to work on my PC though).

You don't see what he was wearing or how he was acting before and I guess he could have looked "suspicious". TBH, if I lived there and saw someone that really did not "fit" look I would have called 911 (or apt security) regardless if he was black or white. But I certainly would not have confronted the person.

Woman Fired After Video Shows Her Blocking Her Black Man from Condo | PEOPLE.com

I am somewhat troubled by her firing. It wasn't on company business or in a company site. She screwed up in her personal life this one time, let her apologize and move on.

Yeah, but the article says she works for a minority-owned company. I don't fault them for firing her. If she wants to sue them, go for it.

I found this article interesting. It reports on Chinese racism in Kenya but also how China is investing in Africa.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/15/w...na-racism.html

I do believe a large % (probably majority) of Chinese from China are racist. How they have been enclosed, brought up is definitely a factor and it'll take several generations of continued global participation for their attitudes to change.

The investing in Africa made me wonder if China is making the right bets on natural resources, alliances etc. and if the US should be doing the same there. I don't think so but really don't know.

Actions have consequences.

So according to the video she wouldn’t let him in even though he had his keys. Yet after watching the video she clearly tells him that if he wants in there is a keypad. So at face value I would say he isn’t telling the whole story.

The story could just as easily be title, “Man tries to enter locked gate behind woman with key at night, refuses to produce his own key.” She should have just shut the door and let him use his key. When I lived in an apartment the rule right in the lease stated you need to have your keyfob on you at all times when using the facilities on the grounds. Failure to have your keyfob would result in you being denied entrance, ejected from the facility, and after the third time you would lose all access to facilities. We had entrance to apartments from the outside, but if our apartment doors were inside I imagine the same rules would apply. They both escalated this needlessly.

I'm a firm right to work and at will employment proponent so I have no issue with her firing on any level.


This seems like an obvious situation from the info provided.



But the race bait videos present a half story. Has this woman lived there any length of time? Has she ever called the police before for suspicious people? Were they all black or has she called on suspicious people of other ethnicities?


All these can be mitigating factors.


I'm a bit hyper sensitive to the issue right now. I have a small real estate rental company. I have a hired property manager that handles maintenance, repairs, leasing and end term. We had an applicant disappointed that she was turned down for housing come in camera blazing yelling repeatedly "tell everyone you wouldn't rent to me because I'm black" then shared the video. It got some local facebook attention (nowhere near as many views) then died down. Then I got a call from the Action 9 news team. Race played no part in the decision, in fact the lady applied online I had no idea of her race (For whats its worth her first name was Cindy...)she was disqualified because she had a sub 500 credit score. Had 3 evictions in the past 5 years and 2 felony assault convictions. Each of those 3 are eliminators by themselves as clearly stated on our application.


The most ridiculous part of the whole ordeal. The tenant we did rent to was a black single female. Only legally I cant say that when I have a TV news dude on the phone because of fair housing practices.


The boy (lady) who cried wolf makes folks turn a blind eye to real issues I fear.

Sue them for what? Was it a racially motivated firing?

Just curious what you define as "fit." Maybe a poor choice of wording, but you realize in today's society "acceptable" attire/appearance encompasses a wide array of looks. Hell, I can go from looking like I belong in a board room to looking like I belong in the Aryan Brotherhood by simply ditching the suit and exposing my tats.

In terms of the firing, that is what you are going to get in a right to work situation, and in this case it could even be considered for cause depending on company policy. Companies are very protective of their brand in today's hyper-sensitive social media driven world and can let you go for anything that appears in these mediums that cast a poor light on them, or conflicts with their core values. If she witnessed what she though was criminal behavior, be smart (and safe) and call the PD. Otherwise accept that a black person, dressed like a 'rapper' just may belong in the same building as you.


This is a huge problem in today's environment. My wife works for a fortune 500 company and is on the African American resource group there. She expressed dismay in the past about a couple of people who just used the forum to bitch about they were being held down and discriminated against all the time.

She finally called one of them out on it and asked why they chose to continue to be the victim and what had they done to elevate themselves? The response was, "well it is little easier for you being married to a white man." Shit like this drives my wife nuts! She was a successful single mother, who purchased a house and was in a management position with the VA before she ever met me and she pretty much destroyed the other woman for that comment. Fortunately others in the group also called out the behavior and comments and those two have since fallen into line with what the true purpose of the group is.

The problem though is this victim mentality still exists with far too many people who see an opportunity to make everything about race, when as in your case, it is the farthest thing from the truth. A more serious consequence is that it severely undermines the very real racism that still exists in this country and even empowers those that carry racism in their heart because they get to point at examples like yours and say "see, they are just playing the race card"

I'll bite.

Is there a dress code and a standard of behavior where you live just to gain access to your home? Also what exactly is the proper "fit" for your neighborhood and how is that determined?

We don't have a like button here so...quoting this to say, Amen.

Depending upon what her job was with the company, you can justify it. If she was responsible for showing units to potential renters or approving applications this opens up a whole can of worms for the company. It is already difficult enough to defend against frivolous complaints as CU Tiger points out, much less one that may have some weight due to what the employee did in their private life.

If I was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, she lost it when she CALLED THE POLICE AFTER HE ENTERED HIS APARTMENT!

Or taking it at face value, she called the police because her neighbor did not accept her attempt at getting to know him better.:rolleyes:

No, not to your own home. Is there one for my neighborhood so as to not look suspicious when entering or walking around it, sure.

Proper "fit" is obviously pretty subjective and there is no set 1-2-3 code-of-dress. If it wasn't Halloween and someone came dressed as a pimp or looked run-down, yeah I would be suspicious.

See my response to miami_fan above.



I absolutely agree about calling PD or apt security first, she was pretty stupid and if he was a bad guy, it may have turned out bad for her.

I don't disagree that actions have consequences, I believe people should be held accountable for their actions. I question if it rises to the level of firing (e.g. was this truly racially motivated, have other co-workers complained about her before etc.).


I don't disagree.

Here is what I think you are missing. It doesnt matter what her motivation was or what she has done in the past. If she is my employee she is gone. Period.

Why?
Because the public perception of what she did could negatively impact my business. When you put yourself in a position to be a detriment to my business you have to find somewhere else to work.

Who knows what her perception is. That's her recourse if she didn't like being fired though, or felt it was "unfair".

Bingo, and look at us, agreeing twice in one day LOL.

'Megyn Kelly Today' is done, NBC reveals following blackface scandal

Either Megyn Kelly is an idiot or she was done with NBC and was re-auditioning for a Fox News gig.

Two birds with one stone I am sure

Ack, I broke it.

Damn, never realized PilotMan was a bot. AI really has gotten better recently!

Holy mega link Batman

I fixed it. :cool:

Back to the St Louis woman.

In the HOA indentures it tells the residents not to let anyone without their keyfob. HE refused to show her his fob.

There had been incidents of theft and what not because people getting in with out a key fob.

And this is down town St Louis. One of the most dangerous cities in the country.

I think this was blown way out of proportion.

Pretty sad. Wonder what she is thinking now?

North Carolina woman fired, could be charged for harassing black sisters in viral video - CBS News

The real question is hot or not? Not.

I was just thinking of posting a poll

Please do start those series of threads again!

Maybe they'll let us do them again? Maybe we can do these polls without pictures?

Who's stopping people from posting a poll? I haven't tried posting one in a while.

I seem to remember the mods banning those threads. Too porn-like or something.

If they have mellowed/chilled out, let's start with Gal Gadot!

Not when she follow shim to his apartment, sees him enter with a key and still calls the police. Her dumbass should not have been standing there with the door open either, pretty sure the HOA advises residents not to that as well.

If she truly felt this was a criminal, she can call the police (as she did).

But she isn't the police, she isn't paid security for the building, she's just a resident like he is. He doesn't have to answer to her authority because she has none over him.

If a stranger blocked you from entering your home unless you showed your ID or something, how would you react?

I would also not be that mad if the police were called on me in that situation. If you're suspicious, maybe play it safe.

But if it's my home that I paid a bunch of money for that you're blocking me from entering, that's going to piss me off. And I would not have been as nice as he was.

Hey, that's (more or less) my neighborhood! I'm not sure if that's more par for the course for the area once you start going past the SouthPark Mall towards the country clubs (rather than the college/transplant part I'm in that's closer to Uptown), or more par for the course for a Spectrum employee interacting with potential costumers... The only really surprising things are that she was actually confronting people instead of being passive aggressive, and that she somehow thinks she's hot. Clearly delusional, I'm glad she was fired, evicted, and criminally charged. (Not sure if people are exaggerating, but I guess she also called 911 on the cops when they responded because one of them was black and "black people were surrounding her".)

Don't really know the full story here but I would assume fired Manager told HQ about seeing the "dine and dash" but they still decided to fire her and only relented when social media started to push back.

Perfect example of how companies are pressured to act now instead of actually take time to study all aspects before firing someone.

Yeah between the E-Coli and the company not standing up for their employees, I'm not going to Chipotle any time soon.

Sounds like police killed an innocent Black man with a gun in Alabama while the shooter got away. I expect the NRA will be issuing a statement any minute now.

Yeah, wasn't sure if this belonged here or in the shootings thread. Both, really.

But I think this illustrates - "good guy with a gun" probably doesn't include black people. If you're a black guy with a gun, you're gonna get shot.

Great police work, too. "Welp, we shot a black guy. Case closed. Go us - bravery!"

It may well turn out to be a "good black guy with a gun" and a police screwup but IMO too early to start making fun of the cops.

I think that questioning their complete satisfaction on Thursday that had completely gotten this one right is certainly enough to comment on. By then the narrative had been solidified and even after they said, "well, maybe we messed up" some citizens had decided that this 'thug' was to blame somehow. That alone shows poor decision making, at the least.

It's not making fun of them. It is criticizing them for bad work -- when they are patting themselves on the back for that bad work.

A little more context but still too early to tell IMO. The last 2 paragraphs will hopefully get us an answer.

Also highlighted the quote that said many others had their weapons drawn also. There are going to be some lessons learned here on what gun carry folks should or not do in this situation.

Alabama police offer new explanation for shooting wrong man - BBC News

NC high school students disciplined for racist video | Charlotte Observer


This is the school my kids would attend if they go to public high schools. (Completely unrelated to this incident, they most likely won't.)

And I read the WI kids with the Hitler salute are getting away with it. I hope they had a good talking to from their parents.