2020 NFL Offseason Thread?
 

If I missed it, the mods can just merge this with the other one.

CBA approved, no more suspensions for the WEEEEEED!

NFL players approve new CBA, runs through 2030

Tannehill reportedly got paid

Source -- Ryan Tannehill agrees to 4-year deal with Titans worth up to $118 million

Colts resign LT Castanzo to a 2 year 33 million dollar deal.

That takes care of one headache this offseason.

Is there a comp for a QB who has so much bad tape on him, then has one (half) a great season and is worth that kind of contract? I'm trying to think, Cassel obviously got paid but that was based on being a career backup and that's the more common scenario.

DOLA - also thank the lord for some actual sports news that doesn't involve somebody completely unqualified sounding off about Coronavirus.

Ending suspensions for weed was a good move. They should give all the players they suspended over the years back pay.

Yes because there is nothing to worry about at all.:rolleyes:

Teddy Bridgewater and his agent have got to be psyched at those numbers.

It is really a two year deal for 46 million with 20 million in incentives. I am good with that. Dark is going t9 get 35 million and shoot Brady,Brees etc who knows. Tanner hills deal in a year might be a bargain unless he craters.

The NFLPA wouldn't consent to moving the start of the league new year so let the Free Agent Frenzy begin!

Steelers use the Franchise Tag on Dupree. I think we saw that coming. He had a good year, and the team like to use that to get a better path toward a longer term deal. He's pretty critical to the speed on the defense.

Shot:

Riley McAtee
@RileyMcAtee
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20m
if the Texans sent nothing other than a plate of barbecue to the Cardinals for David Johnson that's a great trade for Arizona

And chaser:
Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
Framework of trade still being finalized, sources tell ESPN:

American footballCardinals get DeAndre Hopkins and a late-round pick.

American footballTexans get David Johnson and a second-round pick.

Other picks involved, but Hopkins wanted a new deal that Arizona can provide.

I hope that trade included a time machine so the Texans can go back to Johnson's one good year.

I won't be sad to see Hopkins leave the AFC

If this were a multi-player FOF league, the commish would set a rule that no one can trade with the Texans until they are no longer under AI control.

Man that is a bad trade for the Texans. You just dont trade a player like Hopkins especially when you have one of the best young QBs in the NFL. Great work Cards!

The NFL announced the draft will take place, but not in Las Vegas. It will still be televised, and I presume it will be conducted via teleconference.

Nevermind this comment ... I read the trade terms wrong.

The ESPN headline is confusing, but it looks like it's Johnson, a 2nd, and a 4th next year for Hopkins and a 4th.

Seriously - two firsts and a second for Tunsil (which I can see the logic behind even if it’s a lot for such a volatile player) but then you basically get a second, a third and a bunch of vets with questionable value for Clowney and Hopkins, two guys who are basically top 3-5 league wide at their positions. Okkkk then Houston.

Hopkins reacts aside...

...this momentary market for "starting quarterbacks" is lunacy.

Apparently the 49ers gave Armstead 5 years, $85M. And they're out on Brady. Which most of us knew already, but glad the dalliance is over.

Cleveland set to make Austin Hooper the highest paid TE in the league, 4/$44, $23m guaranteed

Kinda figured David Johnson was on his way out with my beloved Cards. Seemed not to have fully recovered from his injuries and lost favor with the new head coach quickly-maybe the new city will give him a spark. Getting Hopkins for him, I'm not sure how they could say no. Wonder who they draft in the first round now?

I figured he was out of the Saints' price range, but I had him on my list of "man, he'd be a great fit" players considering Brees' arm strength.

With him, Cook, Kamara, and Thomas, you'd have the most potent 15-yards-and-closer passing game in NFL history :-)

DeForrest Buckner to the Colts for the #13 overall pick; Buckner signs an extension making him the 2nd highest paid defensive lineman ever.

Edit: 2nd highest paid DT ever, not lineman.

My initial reaction is that the 13th overall pick is an amazing return on someone who only recently broke out and would have absolutely ruined the cap situation for the team.

Bill O Brien is quarantined at home with no one to help him make big boy decisions isnt he...

I'm surprised they were able to pry that draft pick out of Chris Ballard's hands.

I hope Buckner is at least top 5 at his position.

Got to be in the running for “worst trade ever in terms of initial value”. I forgot the Texans also gave up a third for Duke Johnson.

Yea. Sad to see him go, but getting the 13th overall pick should help alleviate that a little. Not to mention a lot of guys got playing time at the DT position that they clearly liked enough as well.

Per Schefter, Bills get Stefon Diggs and a 2020 7th rounder. The Vikings get a 2020 1st, 5th, 6th and a 2021 4th.

That's a lot of money for Randall Cobb.

I kinda love the Bill Barnwell trade analysis article title:

"The Texans did what?"

Vance McDonald has gotten a lot of play from that stiff arm a year ago. Even with being down several picks I can’t believe they capped out McDonald. He barely plays.

We're coming up on the Wednesday deadline for Patriots to get a deal done with Brady before they take the dead cap hit. I lot of teams have dropped out, but still a lot of talk about Tampa Bay.

It still feels like Pats/Brady taking one more year together makes more sense for each side than not.

And the Texans got what for Hopkins? The Vikes getting a 1st for Diggs makes the Texans trade even worse.

I guess I was wrong

FOREVER A PATRIOT pic.twitter.com/QSBOJBs4uy

— Tom Brady (@TomBrady) March 17, 2020

dola:

As sports fans, we are good at blocking out things like "that weird Tom Brady year in Tampa Bay" from our collective memories. It will seem strange next season, then we will all forget it ever happened.

Any word where Brady is going?

Tampa was supposed to be the only other option right?

Now that it is official that he is not going back to the Pats, I am sure more teams will begin exploring their options.

tampa bay was supposedly all in for Brady.

I am more interested in who replaces Brady in New England.

I wonder if Ryan Leaf is available.

Supposedly Tampa just waived Jameis Winston

Me, too. Teddy Bridgewater?

I have to think he has at least verbally agreed to play for another team before he sent that out.

Now maybe the rest of the AFC East can beat the Patriots? for potential replacements, how about Marcus Marirota? Not needed in Tenn anymore, maybe Bellichek can build him up again?

Maybe Carr? Raiders signed Mariota

Mariota signed with the Raiders

Edit:

Damn you bob!

I don't think they waived him, they simply didn't use a tag on him so he becomes a UFA ... right?

Ah had not heard that thanks-bit of a weird place for him to go unless Carr's leaving town

PJ From the Xfl-)

Andy Dalton would probably do well with the Patriots.

You could be right.

Cam Newton allowed to seek a trade as the Panthers reportedly close to signing Bridgewater

The insanity of the NFL in the last 48 hours has been a nice distraction.

I think the Pats might actually go with Stidham, and have a lower-cost veteran backup.

I am wondering if BB is trying to tank to get Trevor Lawrence? I am sure if there is someone he likes in this years class he will go get them. Maybe Love? I am not sure the Pats have enough draft capital or stars to move up to the high first round for Herbert or Burrows though.

I think that BB is too old to want to have a tank year.

Also, he wants to prove he can win without Brady--that's about the only thing he could do to increase his legacy at this point.

He does not want to have Brady move on and go 3-13.

Per Schefter, Philip Rivers to the Colts on a one year deal.

EDIT: $25 mil for the year.

Even with a shite QB the Pats wouldn't be close to the #1 pick next year.

I totally understand moving on from Cam, but I've never understood the lingering interest in Bridgewater, who has just as many injury concerns as Cam and we're all still waiting for him to break his rookie record of FOURTEEN whole TDs, six years later.

I thought Rivers wanted a two year deal.


Anyways I'm assuming we're going to drop Hoyer but I wonder what QB plans Ballard has for the future. The Colts don't pick until 34 so you're not getting a top young QB. Maybe there's someone Ballard hopes falls to him?

The Lions free agency moves so far have been terrible.

Quinntricia are further ruining an already terrible franchise.

I cannot stand these clowns. Quinn's draft picks have been awful. Ragnow is good and Golladay was a great pick, but that's been it. A bunch of mediocre first rounders and nothing else of note after that. His free agency signings haven't been much better. There is no apparent plan or strategy unfolding here.

The Rick Wagner release summed up the Quinntricia era for me. Wagner at the time the Lions picked him up was arguably the best right tackle in the NFL, and when he signed I took it as an indication that Quinn was a power mover unafraid to spend, but w/ the instincts of "the Patriot way". Instead, he was nearly worthless on the Lions to the point that their previously ironman QB literally had his back broken 2 out of the 3 years Wagner played in Detroit. Cut to this season, and the Lions are going to pay his shadow $6MM to play in GB. We're also going to pay Snacks Harrison $5MM to not be on the team, and we're going to pay our best safety, Quandre Diggs $2.5 million to play for Seattle. Lotsa Quinn's moves were still up in the air last year, and some seemed like they might eventually end up with positive results, even up until the waning moments....but as of now, they are practically ALL busted out

As sour as I have become on Quinn, I started sour on Patricia and have really never waivered. I am still unable to get past the fact that he is apparently literally the one & only head coach in the NFL who is consistently late to every meeting, but expects his players to be held to an entirely different standard.

I pretty much gave up on this season as soon as they announced a mandate to "WIN NOW...but by 'now' we mean the rest of this season and all of the next one" towards the end of last year.

I'm wondering if there is no one they are particularly enamored with in this draft at QB.

I'm surprised why they didn't give Rivers a 2 year contract though. If Love, Herbert, or Eason were their guy I would assume they would have stayed at 13 to make sure they got their guy like the Giants did with Daniel Jones at 6 last year.

I’m surprised GB passed on Bulaga for 3-30 to sign Wagner for 2-11. My impression from last year was that Bulaga was significantly better. I do like taking a flier on Kirksey for half the price of Blake Martinez (who was pretty bad last year).

Re: Brady...why the Bucs?

Everybody from Boston retires to Florida.

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Sportsdigs was all over this shit two weeks ago.

Ok ok, He no longer are committed to winning.:p

But seriously, Tampa was a game below .500 with a QB that threw 30 INT. Brady getting 24 TDs and 8 INT with the Bucs receivers has to be worth 2 or 3 games isn't it?

Winston also fumbled more and lost more than Brady. Significantly more.

Winston was such a failure. He was never going to amount to anything as long as he stayed in Florida. He needed a complete change of scenery with a coach who would flip him inside out.

As a fellow Dolphins fan, here’s what I fear - BB likes an intelligent QB, and there is one guy always mentioned as one of the most intelligent guys in any QB room.

So NE will trade a low round pick for Josh Rosen, and the Pats will go on another 15 year dynasty run...

You heard it here first!

Well I would like to see what Rosen could do behind an actual quality OLine...

AB possibly to the Bucs (eventually)as well. Although he had gotten into it with Arians so who knows.

What he really needs to do, and he can grab one of the smartest guys in the room, is trade for Fitz and then win the SB. I actually might enjoy that.

HA! Watching Fitz give his press conference during a five-game winning streak like this



While Belichick stands by with one of those nervous "The humans seem to think this is entertaining, so I'll stand here and pretend to enjoy it" grins would be epic.

Thoughts on the rumored Gurley & Cooks for Godwin & a 1st deal?

Edit: yes, I'm this fucking dry for anything to talk about that isn't virus related :/

I'm not kidding when I say that his weirdness with the beard and the pencil helped him to get the job. Owners are human, and they are going to notice guys who stand out more than guys who don't.

Rob Ryan is the same way. He got way more DC opportunities than he should have because you couldn't help but just notice the guy. His defenses suck, but he sure killed it on that Good Morning Football segment last week, let's hire him!

Meanwhile, a dude like Mike Zimmer just kept plugging along as a DC for years but had to wait forever for a HC opportunity because he looks like your boring uncle.

Heh. Yeah, me too.

To answer your question, doesn't Gurley have arthritic knees? The dude is a generational talent, but my sense is that his medical issues were only going to get worse over time.

That feels like an absolute steal for the Rams - Godwin is probably already the better receiver who has some incredible upside, and even if Gurley can give you another couple of years to match Brady’s timeline he’s still only somewhere around the top 10 RBs post injury. Add a first to that... yikes.

Is one of the symptoms of the virus that NFL GMs go crazy and forget about positional value?

Okay, so I'm not crazy in thinking this is somewhere between a bad idea and a REALLY bad idea for the Bucs then.

M'kay, just figured I oughta check.

Foles to the Bears. Also why weren’t the bears a Brady/Rivers/etc destination? I’m assuming they’re capped out?

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Also re: possible Cooks/Gurley trade.

If Cooks is traded, this will be his FOURTH team, after three others had no problem letting him go. And Payton, Belichick, and McVay are all pretty good coaches.

There's something going on there that will have made three good coaches all say "let's see what we can get for this guy" instead of keeping him around.

I wish Quinn/Patricia had been let go too, because between them & Flores in Miami it's annoying to have all of our quality defensive depth signed to contracts at the value they're worth when coaches know how to use them right instead of coming back to NE on deals they'll outperform. Not that I'm too worried about LB because we can seemingly turn any castoff into a borderline Pro Bowler, or DB because we have insane depth right now, but it does hurt a little.

Surprised Brady didn't get re-signed to a 1/2 year deal with the $13.5m dead cap hit, but so be it, I wish him the best of luck in Tampa (and it'll be interesting to see if Arians adjusts his offense, since I think Brady is better at deep balls than he's given credit for, but it's still clearly not his strength). Guessing for now we actually will go with Stidham at QB, though if another QB like Dalton or Rosen shows up cheaply on the market that wouldn't shock me. I don't see us drafting a QB - maybe if Herbert falls to 15 or below, but they like Stidham, I don't see drafting another developmental guy like Eason at 23 making any sense.

Still pretty absurd they haven't signed a TE yet, though maybe some young talented guys like Njoku or OJ Howard will be available for trade during the draft. WR not as concerning/surprising - draft is loaded enough some very good WR's will be available day 2 & we do have N'Keal Harry who essentially only got 1/3 of the practice time in he should have.

The bears didn't have a lot of cap room for this offseason. It's really difficult to accept that they'll be paying roughly $25 mil this year for a combination of Foles/Trubisky though. I'd honestly rather have Bridgewater or Winston than that combination.

Pace had done a solid job of upgrading the overall talent and managing the cap, but the trade to draft Trubisky led to going all in on the roster with the Mack trade and now it seems he's trying to spend his way through mistakes which never works in the NFL.

Trubisky is going to set the franchise back 5-6 year or more from the looks of things. They currently have holes on the line, at TE, and at corner and essentially two 2nds to patch them. The depth on the defensive side is gone now with Kwiatkoski and Nick Williams signing elsewhere.

I find the Jurrell Casey trade very interesting too... he’s one of my favorite players in the NFL so I’m a bit biased, but I also don’t really get it from the Titans perspective. He’s still very productive at an important position and while that deal probably looks ugly in its last two years, you wonder what else they are going to go out and spend it on given the money they splurged on Tannehill.

To only get a seventh for a DT who has made the pro bowl in the last four years just feels like a poor use of resources no matter the long term financials involved. They basically cut him which seems nuts.

You could have stopped there. I said this from the day he was drafted.

The Lions trade Slay to the Eagles for a 3rd and a 5th.

The Lions continue to be on a road to nowhere and not in the fun, jaunty Talking Heads kind of way.

Goodness, win for the Eagles for sure.

It's weird seeing the Bengals behave like a normal NFL franchise.

I think I need to pick a new NFL team. I haven't lived in Detroit in 30+ years. Time to cut them loose I think.

I follow the Falcons because they are the local team, but honestly never really cared too much beyond the super bowl run and choke.

Suggestions?

Baltimore.

Youngish good owner (stability)
Great coach
League MVP as QB

KC is probably a bit too bandwagon of a pick, but you'd get to cheer for Mahomes for the next 12 years, and if you ever go there to see a home game, you can eat amazing BBQ.

What horrible return.