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Racer 12-07-2007 02:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeheinz72 (Post 1609873)
To that end, who is supposed to be scanning my conference? Shouldn't they have scanned me by now to verify?

I don't care much whether you are a good guy or a wolf honestly. You make your conference very dangerous to the other three conferences. My conference loses if either the wolves win or another conference wins. So either way, you're a threat. I changed my vote solely because I'd rather vote for Molson then have the vote be "no sanctions".

Alan T 12-07-2007 02:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chesapeake (Post 1609858)
By the way, there's been no talk about the Catholic thing that came up at the end of day 3. Anyone have thoughts on that?

I would say don't knock it until you try it!

chesapeake 12-07-2007 02:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeheinz72 (Post 1609872)
Since I was too lazy to count the votes earlier. I'm not a wolf guys, I"m a lobbyist.

Uh oh. I know many, many lobbyists. Wolves, every one. ;)

chesapeake 12-07-2007 02:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1609893)
I would say don't knock it until you try it!

I went through 18 years of that. Never again!

Passacaglia 12-07-2007 02:28 PM
Public Poll

1. jeheinz72
2. University Falls Church Crushers (chesapeake)
3. Lathum
3. Buffalo State Bengals (RendeR)
5. Mr. Wednesday

(I might have made a mistake up there -- feel free to check my math if you're so inclined)

Private Poll
1. Lathum
2. Chief Rum
3. Notre Dame (Alan T)
3. path12
5. University Falls Church Crushers (chesapeake)

Lathum 12-07-2007 02:30 PM
ZING!!!

I didn't even vote in the private poll/

st.cronin 12-07-2007 02:33 PM
Do you feel the love?

path12 12-07-2007 02:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday (Post 1609811)
Dola, and either nobody took my advice to look at claphamsa, or they're not talking if they did.

I'm not giving out who I'm scanning until I come up with a concrete result -- but I am scanning your conference.

I would hope the other scouts are focusing on the other conferences, including mine.

path12 12-07-2007 02:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chesapeake (Post 1609911)
I went through 18 years of that. Never again!

+eleventy billion! My guilt complexes have guilt complexes.

Passacaglia 12-07-2007 03:03 PM
Day 4 Matchups

Racer vs. Team 49
SnDvls vs. Team 40
st.cronin vs. Team 40
Swaggs vs. Team 45
Chief Rum vs. Team 30
Alan T vs. Team 42
claphamsa vs. Team 45
Barkeep49 vs. molson
chesapeake vs. Team 40
Lathum vs. Team 50
RendeR vs. Team 75
ntndeacon vs. Team 60
path12 vs. Team 88
Mr. Wednesday vs. Team 35
jeheinz72 vs. Team 72
Anxiety vs. Team 80

Passacaglia 12-07-2007 03:08 PM
Day 4 Results

Racer DEFEATS Team 49
SnDvls DEFEATS Team 40
st.cronin LOSES TO Team 40
Swaggs DEFEATS Team 45
Chief Rum LOSES TO Team 30
Alan T DEFEATS Team 42
claphamsa LOSES TO Team 45
Barkeep49 DEFEATS molson
chesapeake LOSES TO Team 40
Lathum LOSES TO Team 50
RendeR LOSES TO Team 75
ntndeacon LOSES TO Team 60
path12 LOSES TO Team 88
Mr. Wednesday DEFEATS Team 35
jeheinz72 LOSES TO Team 72
Anxiety LOSES TO Team 80

Passacaglia 12-07-2007 03:20 PM
COMPUTER POLL

1. Hoosier State Huskers (Racer) 189
2. Mr. Wednesday 185
3. Univrsity Falls Church Crushers (chesapeake) 150
4. MD superkittens (claphamsa) 140
5. jeheinz72 125
6. U of BK Drones (Barkeep49) 115
7. Chief Rum 105
8. Swaggs 93
9. ntndeacon 90
10. Notre Dame (Alan T) 82
11. Lathum 68
12. St. Cronin's University Blue Man Group (st.cronin) 62
13. molson 55
14. SnDvls 30
15. Boone County Vocational Technical Institute (Anxiety) 23
16. path12 -10
16. Buffalo State Bengals (RendeR) -10

Passacaglia 12-07-2007 03:27 PM
BCS POLL

1. University Falls Church Crushers (chesapeake)
2. jeheinz72
2. Lathum
4. Mr. Wednesday
5. Chief Rum
5. Hoosier State Huskers (Racer)

st.cronin 12-07-2007 03:33 PM
Wow, jeheinz lost about 100 power points.

Passacaglia 12-07-2007 03:34 PM
Day 5
-------
Mr. Wednesday vs. ntndeacon
claphamsa vs. st.cronin
RendeR vs. SnDvls
Anxiety vs. jeheinz72
chesapeake vs. molson
Lathum vs. path12
Racer vs. Chief Rum
Barkeep49 vs. Swaggs

Day 6
------
Mr. Wednesday vs. claphamsa
ntndeacon vs. st.cronin
Anxiety vs. SnDvls
RendeR vs. jeheinz72
chesapeake vs. path12
Lathum vs. molson
Racer vs. Barkeep49
Chief Rum vs. Swaggs

Day 7
-------
Mr. Wednesday vs. st.cronin
claphamsa vs. ntndeacon
SnDvls vs. jeheinz72
Anxiety vs. RendeR
Lathum vs. chesapeake
path12 vs. molson
Racer vs. Swaggs
Chief Rum vs. Barkeep 49

jeheinz72 12-07-2007 03:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1609963)
Wow, jeheinz lost about 100 power points.

Yeah, my conference officially has no shot now

Passacaglia 12-07-2007 03:41 PM
Transylvania Werewolf Conference
---------
claphamsa 0-0
Mr. Wednesday 0-0
ntndeacon 0-0
st.cronin 0-0
Tiebreaker: head to head, overall record, coin flip

Four Horsemen Conference
--------
Anxiety 0-0
jeheinnz72 0-0
RendeR 0-0
SnDvls 0-0
Tiebreaker: Head to head, Overall, Powerpoints

Sorry Excuse for Coaches (SEC) Conference
------------------
chesapeake 0-0
Lathum 0-0
molson 0-0
path12 0-0
Conference Championship: 1 vs. 2
Tiebreaker: head to head, overall, powerpoints

Big 3
-----
Barkeep49 0-0
Cheif Rum 0-0
Racer 0-0
Swaggs 0-0
Conference Championship: 1 vs. 2
Tiebreaker: head to head, powerpoints, overall record, powerpoints of opponents, coin flip

Passacaglia 12-07-2007 03:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1609963)
Wow, jeheinz lost about 100 power points.

whoops -- molson won the vote, didn't he? Fixed.

Passacaglia 12-07-2007 03:47 PM
BCS Poll is fixed, too. With that, I think we're set for Day 5.

Passacaglia 12-07-2007 03:48 PM
I'll be checking in off and on for a little while before I go, though. Let me know if anything looks amiss.

SnDvls 12-07-2007 03:51 PM
so If I'm caculating things right path & RendeR have no shot at winnnig a league game right?

if RendeR (-10) plays Anxiety (23)

Anxiety has a 1.76 chance to win and RendeR has a -.76 chance to win

or am I way off here?

Passacaglia 12-07-2007 03:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SnDvls (Post 1609975)
so If I'm caculating things right path & RendeR have no shot at winnnig a league game right?

if RendeR (-10) plays Anxiety (23)

Anxiety has a 1.76 chance to win and RendeR has a -.76 chance to win

or am I way off here?

Negative powerpoints are treated like zero, when calculating win-loss. Yes, unless Anxiety throws the game, RendeR will not win.

Mr. Wednesday 12-07-2007 04:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1609963)
Wow, jeheinz lost about 100 power points.
If by "about 100" you mean 50, yes.

I haven't looked at Molson yet, but I'd guess a lobbyist moved the sanctions.

Mr. Wednesday 12-07-2007 04:03 PM
Dola, er, or maybe all 50 sabotage points got put on him, which would be kinda an odd thing to do unless the bad guys are really desperate.

path12 12-07-2007 04:03 PM
I can definitively say that the detractor seer is in the Transylvania conference. I have scanned all four teams (who all lost the day they were scanned I believe, but I'll check that again to make sure) and no detractor was found.

RendeR 12-07-2007 04:04 PM
Claphamsa is NOT a detractor. According to my scan last night.

RendeR 12-07-2007 04:06 PM
I'l apologize to everyone again, this week has been hell at work and I've been a terrible terrible player. Missed 2 scans and forgot to put in orders at least once.

Bleh, sorry guys.

path12 12-07-2007 04:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RendeR (Post 1609982)
Claphamsa is NOT a detractor. According to my scan last night.

Still could be, see my above post. I scanned him last night also.

Mr. Wednesday 12-07-2007 04:07 PM
st.cronin is the avowed scout in our conference. If we assume that the role is the same regardless of whether the individual is a wolf or normal, and if we trust your results, then that would make cronin the detractor.

Passacaglia 12-07-2007 04:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday (Post 1609979)
If by "about 100" you mean 50, yes.

I haven't looked at Molson yet, but I'd guess a lobbyist moved the sanctions.

That was my fault -- it was 100 before I fixed an error.

path12 12-07-2007 04:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday (Post 1609986)
st.cronin is the avowed scout in our conference. If we assume that the role is the same regardless of whether the individual is a wolf or normal, and if we trust your results, then that would make cronin the detractor.

Actually, cronin was my top suspect just going by gut off of his posts. The order your conference was scanned was: ntn, Mr W, cronin and clapham. All results came back not a detractor.

Mr. Wednesday 12-07-2007 04:10 PM
And I'm assuming that you scanned cronin on day 3, because he won on day 1 and day 2.

path12 12-07-2007 04:11 PM
Dola, apparently not all the scouts have been scouting every day. I think we're at the point going into conference play where we need to get our results out there such as they are.

path12 12-07-2007 04:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday (Post 1609991)
And I'm assuming that you scanned cronin on day 3, because he won on day 1 and day 2.

Correct.

ntndeacon 12-07-2007 04:17 PM
Pass you have claphamsa playing st. cronin twice. I assume the second day I should play him.

Passacaglia 12-07-2007 04:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 1609997)
Pass you have claphamsa playing st. cronin twice. I assume the second day I should play him.

Thanks. Fixed.

SnDvls 12-07-2007 04:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 1609997)
Pass you have claphamsa playing st. cronin twice. I assume the second day I should play him.

his team is so good he gets to play St. C & Mr. W on the same day at the same time ;)

ntndeacon 12-07-2007 04:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SnDvls (Post 1610002)
his team is so good he gets to play St. C & Mr. W on the same day at the same time ;)

that is fine as long as I can get half his points :D

chesapeake 12-07-2007 04:47 PM
How did BK earn 35 points by losing to molson? He would have gained that if he had won.

chesapeake 12-07-2007 04:59 PM
Also, by my count, Alan T should be at 82 points instead of 72 and Sndvls at 30 instead of 40.

Passacaglia 12-07-2007 05:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chesapeake (Post 1610016)
How did BK earn 35 points by losing to molson? He would have gained that if he had won.

That was my fault, too. Barkeep49 won that game.

claphamsa 12-07-2007 05:46 PM
This sucks, I lost to computers twice :( I mean team 40 was supposed to be a pushover!

Passacaglia 12-07-2007 05:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chesapeake (Post 1610017)
Also, by my count, Alan T should be at 82 points instead of 72 and Sndvls at 30 instead of 40.

Right on both counts. Sorry about all these mistakes, guys -- today has been a crazy day for me, starting with the fact that I left my spreadsheet on my work computer! These are both fixed -- luckily it doesn't change the computer rankings -- everyone stays in the same order.

Passacaglia 12-07-2007 06:13 PM
Okay, I'm out. Have a good weekend, all! If my PM box is full, my e-mail address is agage1 AT gmail DOT com

Chief Rum 12-07-2007 06:53 PM
Man, I lost to Team 30? That sucks!

You know, it would be fun to know the rolls in the honest games. I hope Pass is keeping track. That way, I know if I erred too far in going with 30 instead of 25 let's say (a decision I made last night), or if I was screwed no matter what (roll came up, like, 2, or something).

st.cronin 12-08-2007 09:30 AM
updated standings in a format I understand:

Code:
conf #1:

Chesapeake        2-2 (150)
Lathum                2-2 (68)
Molson                2-2 (55)
path12                0-4 (-10)

conf #2
Mr.Wednesday        3-1 (185)
Claphamsa        2-2 (140)
Ntndeacon        1-3 (90)
St.Cronin        2-2 (62)

conf #3
Racer                3-1 (189)
Barkeep                2-1 (115)
Chief Rum        2-2 (105)
Swaggs                2-1 (93)

conf #4
Jeheinz72        2-2 (125)
Sndvls                1-3 (30)
Anxiety                1-3 (23)
Render                0-4 (-10)

Alan T                2-2 (82)

st.cronin 12-08-2007 09:32 AM
dola, I am not a detractor.

chesapeake 12-09-2007 01:32 PM
I think we've found the wolf scout, St. Cronin, and equipment manager, Molson, leaving the lobbyist and saboteur still at large.

chesapeake 12-09-2007 01:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1609030)
Rumours from South Bend indicate that new coach Alan T has instituted his gameplan for longterm success. Teams from across the country are being recruited to join a new Catholic Conference, whose headquarters would lie in South Bend, chaired by Alan T himself. Word is that the Irish are in talks with several coaches, and as many as 3 major powers could be "converting" to the Catholic Conference. Financial experts speculate that in order to succeed in establishing the conference, the money provided by the BCS to the at-large team would be required.

Starting now, when a scout throws the game, he must specify if he wants to learn whether or not the team he's scouting is a Catholic, or a detractor.

We've essentially ignored this for a day, but we need to start trying to identify the Catholics. And it is about time, if you ask me. Would it make sense for our seers to start with scanning folks with 100+ PPs? I would think that those teams would be the most likely to end up with the at-large berth.

Barkeep49 12-09-2007 01:53 PM
Basically we now have a second group of bad guys to worry about, as I see it. And we're far behind finding out who they might be than the initial wolves.


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