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1971 Season Thread (Classic is over! FA starts tomorrow!)

Spring training and the draft tonight. Draft class is sketchy, but spring training is always a barn burner. Any season previews?

I'll process the trades after I get all of the exports in and that way, I can start running things.

I'll do my season preview after spring training is over like normal. Not fully sure which guys will end up in the big leagues this year until after spring training.

As normal, I'm running mostly young guys out there for spring training to see what shakes out. I have a good 7 positions up for grab out of my 25 this year.

I may give it a try this season aswell, never done this before so im not sure it will look as professional as Alan:)

All right, here we go. Gonna process trades and then get this show going.

Here's the draft order for the 1971 draft, for the first round:

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1. Texas Copperheads
2. El Paso Alligators
3. Columbus Crusaders
4. Toronto Atlantics
5. Baltimore Terrapins
6. Hartford Harpooners
7. New York Highlanders
8. Boston Settlers
9. Brooklyn Brownstones
10. Toronto Atlantics
11. Valdosta Peanuts
12. Rio Grande Roadrunners
13. Colorado Rancheros
14. Ann Arbor Wolverines
15. Compton Brothers
16. Toronto Atlantics

Is this after the trades? cause i don't see where atlanta was picking this year.

Here are the picks round 1-9 (backwards, 'cuz OOTP sux)

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Round 9

Round 9, Pick 1 - Texas Copperheads: SP M. Hodges

Round 9, Pick 2 - El Paso Alligators: C J. Davis

Round 9, Pick 3 - Columbus Crusaders: SS S. Bruce

Round 9, Pick 4 - Quad City Thunderstorms: LF L. Currell

Round 9, Pick 5 - Baltimore Terrapins: SP R. Baker

Round 9, Pick 6 - Hartford Harpooners: SP E. Douglas

Round 9, Pick 7 - New York Highlanders: C N. Ramírez

Round 9, Pick 8 - Boston Settlers: SP R. Rodríguez

Round 9, Pick 9 - Brooklyn Brownstones: SS M. Dupont

Round 9, Pick 10 - Toronto Atlantics: SP T. Miller

Round 9, Pick 11 - Atlanta Firecrackers: SS G. Vega

Round 9, Pick 12 - Rio Grande Roadrunners: SP J. O'Duana

Round 9, Pick 13 - Colorado Rancheros: RF A. Durón

Round 9, Pick 14 - Ann Arbor Wolverines: SP T. Bannister

Round 9, Pick 15 - Compton Brothers: SP J. Ramírez

Round 9, Pick 16 - Valdosta Peanuts: SP L. Harris

Round 8

Round 8, Pick 1 - Texas Copperheads: C K. Bradsher

Round 8, Pick 2 - El Paso Alligators: 2B E. Brown

Round 8, Pick 3 - Columbus Crusaders: SS G. Daniels

Round 8, Pick 4 - Quad City Thunderstorms: SP J. Hernández

Round 8, Pick 5 - Baltimore Terrapins: 2B C. Springer

Round 8, Pick 6 - Hartford Harpooners: 2B B. Short

Round 8, Pick 7 - New York Highlanders: LF B. Austin

Round 8, Pick 8 - Boston Settlers: SS J. Jackson

Round 8, Pick 9 - Brooklyn Brownstones: 3B B. Smith

Round 8, Pick 10 - Toronto Atlantics: 2B S. Johnston

Round 8, Pick 11 - Atlanta Firecrackers: SP J. Salas

Round 8, Pick 12 - Rio Grande Roadrunners: 3B A. Owens

Round 8, Pick 13 - Colorado Rancheros: MR A. Pereira

Round 8, Pick 14 - Ann Arbor Wolverines: SS M. Blanchard

Round 8, Pick 15 - Compton Brothers: C J. Colón

Round 8, Pick 16 - Valdosta Peanuts: 2B M. Logan

Round 7

Round 7, Pick 1 - Texas Copperheads: SP J. Hopkins

Round 7, Pick 2 - El Paso Alligators: 3B J. Zamora

Round 7, Pick 3 - Columbus Crusaders: SP E. McBride

Round 7, Pick 4 - Quad City Thunderstorms: 3B M. Burt

Round 7, Pick 5 - Baltimore Terrapins: SP R. León

Round 7, Pick 6 - Hartford Harpooners: SP B. Green

Round 7, Pick 7 - New York Highlanders: 2B D. Forrest

Round 7, Pick 8 - Boston Settlers: SP D. Fields

Round 7, Pick 9 - Brooklyn Brownstones: SS S. Byers

Round 7, Pick 10 - Toronto Atlantics: SS M. Tolmie

Round 7, Pick 11 - Atlanta Firecrackers: CF R. Winter

Round 7, Pick 12 - Rio Grande Roadrunners: SP D. McGee

Round 7, Pick 13 - Colorado Rancheros: MR S. Beauchamp

Round 7, Pick 14 - Ann Arbor Wolverines: SP B. Osborne

Round 7, Pick 15 - Compton Brothers: SP W. Colón

Round 7, Pick 16 - Valdosta Peanuts: C F. Vázquez

Round 6

Round 6, Pick 1 - Texas Copperheads: SS C. Walters

Round 6, Pick 2 - El Paso Alligators: SP R. Martínez

Round 6, Pick 3 - Columbus Crusaders: 2B N. McKnight

Round 6, Pick 4 - Quad City Thunderstorms: SP R. Heredia

Round 6, Pick 5 - Baltimore Terrapins: LF D. Valdéz

Round 6, Pick 6 - Hartford Harpooners: CF D. Santiago

Round 6, Pick 7 - New York Highlanders: C L. Williams

Round 6, Pick 8 - Boston Settlers: C P. Richter

Round 6, Pick 9 - Brooklyn Brownstones: SP K. Davis

Round 6, Pick 10 - Toronto Atlantics: 2B D. Harmon

Round 6, Pick 11 - Atlanta Firecrackers: LF C. González

Round 6, Pick 12 - Rio Grande Roadrunners: LF Á. Cortéz

Round 6, Pick 13 - Colorado Rancheros: 1B R. Wall

Round 6, Pick 14 - Ann Arbor Wolverines: SS R. Lugo

Round 6, Pick 15 - Compton Brothers: LF T. King

Round 6, Pick 16 - Valdosta Peanuts: 3B J. Stone

Round 5

Round 5, Pick 1 - Texas Copperheads: CF D. Hall

Round 5, Pick 2 - El Paso Alligators: C G. Blanco

Round 5, Pick 3 - Columbus Crusaders: SP E. Byrd

Round 5, Pick 4 - Quad City Thunderstorms: 2B G. Warren

Round 5, Pick 5 - Baltimore Terrapins: 2B B. Booth

Round 5, Pick 6 - Hartford Harpooners: 1B N. Hunter

Round 5, Pick 7 - New York Highlanders: C C. Newman

Round 5, Pick 8 - Boston Settlers: CF R. Norman

Round 5, Pick 9 - Brooklyn Brownstones: C J. King

Round 5, Pick 10 - Toronto Atlantics: 3B J. Hayhurst

Round 5, Pick 11 - Atlanta Firecrackers: CF B. Pugh

Round 5, Pick 12 - Rio Grande Roadrunners: 2B R. Morrison

Round 5, Pick 13 - Colorado Rancheros: LF O. Mata

Round 5, Pick 14 - Ann Arbor Wolverines: SP B. Church

Round 5, Pick 15 - Compton Brothers: LF B. Brown

Round 5, Pick 16 - Valdosta Peanuts: CF N. Jones

Round 4

Round 4, Pick 1 - Texas Copperheads: 3B L. Martínez

Round 4, Pick 2 - El Paso Alligators: SP D. Fox

Round 4, Pick 3 - Columbus Crusaders: LF J. Salazar

Round 4, Pick 4 - Quad City Thunderstorms: SP C. Máynes

Round 4, Pick 5 - Baltimore Terrapins: SS R. MacDonald

Round 4, Pick 6 - Hartford Harpooners: SS P. Warner

Round 4, Pick 7 - New York Highlanders: SS D. Woods

Round 4, Pick 8 - Boston Settlers: SS B. Carson

Round 4, Pick 9 - Brooklyn Brownstones: C D. Watson

Round 4, Pick 10 - Toronto Atlantics: SS K. Hayes

Round 4, Pick 11 - Atlanta Firecrackers: SP C. González

Round 4, Pick 12 - Rio Grande Roadrunners: C I. Toledo

Round 4, Pick 13 - Colorado Rancheros: RF S. Myers

Round 4, Pick 14 - Ann Arbor Wolverines: C D. Baxter

Round 4, Pick 15 - Compton Brothers: 2B W. Reed

Round 4, Pick 16 - Valdosta Peanuts: 1B B. Chapman

Round 3

Round 3, Pick 1 - Texas Copperheads: CF D. Walls

Round 3, Pick 2 - El Paso Alligators: 1B G. Miller

Round 3, Pick 3 - Quad City Thunderstorms: 2B B. Wilson

Round 3, Pick 4 - Quad City Thunderstorms: CF E. Malone

Round 3, Pick 5 - Hartford Harpooners: CF J. Warren

Round 3, Pick 6 - Hartford Harpooners: CF T. Ewing

Round 3, Pick 7 - New York Highlanders: LF L. Pierce

Round 3, Pick 8 - Boston Settlers: LF T. Roussy

Round 3, Pick 9 - Brooklyn Brownstones: 3B J. Vargas

Round 3, Pick 10 - Toronto Atlantics: LF S. Anderson

Round 3, Pick 11 - Atlanta Firecrackers: CF S. Venegas

Round 3, Pick 12 - Rio Grande Roadrunners: RF B. Smith

Round 3, Pick 13 - Colorado Rancheros: LF R. Sullivan

Round 3, Pick 14 - Ann Arbor Wolverines: 2B R. Stace

Round 3, Pick 15 - Toronto Atlantics: CF S. Hairston

Round 3, Pick 16 - Toronto Atlantics: SP G. Franco

Round 2

Round 2, Pick 1 - Texas Copperheads: SP E. Washington

Round 2, Pick 2 - El Paso Alligators: 2B F. Acevedo

Round 2, Pick 3 - Columbus Crusaders: SP R. Wilkins

Round 2, Pick 4 - Compton Brothers: CF H. Méndez

Round 2, Pick 5 - Baltimore Terrapins: CF M. Marshall

Round 2, Pick 6 - Hartford Harpooners: RF J. Smith

Round 2, Pick 7 - New York Highlanders: C J. Robinson

Round 2, Pick 8 - Boston Settlers: LF B. Black

Round 2, Pick 9 - Brooklyn Brownstones: 3B É. Loiselle

Round 2, Pick 10 - Toronto Atlantics: SP G. Méndez

Round 2, Pick 11 - Atlanta Firecrackers: CF S. Harmon

Round 2, Pick 12 - Rio Grande Roadrunners: SP M. Thompson

Round 2, Pick 13 - Colorado Rancheros: LF J. Gonzáles

Round 2, Pick 14 - Ann Arbor Wolverines: 2B A. Henry

Round 2, Pick 15 - Toronto Atlantics: RF R. Allen

Round 2, Pick 16 - Toronto Atlantics: 3B S. Mathis

Round 1

Round 1, Pick 1 - Texas Copperheads: CF C. Wilson

Round 1, Pick 2 - El Paso Alligators: 1B G. Mata

Round 1, Pick 3 - Columbus Crusaders: RF S. Oliver

Round 1, Pick 4 - Toronto Atlantics: CF C. Numbers

Round 1, Pick 5 - Baltimore Terrapins: SP I. Flores

Round 1, Pick 6 - Hartford Harpooners: SP A. Miller

Round 1, Pick 7 - New York Highlanders: RF B. Waller

Round 1, Pick 8 - Boston Settlers: SS L. Crawford

Round 1, Pick 9 - Brooklyn Brownstones: C M. Fontaine

Round 1, Pick 10 - Toronto Atlantics: RF I. Booker

Round 1, Pick 11 - Valdosta Peanuts: LF A. Poole

Round 1, Pick 12 - Rio Grande Roadrunners: LF S. Patterson

Round 1, Pick 13 - Colorado Rancheros: SP M. Stewart

Round 1, Pick 14 - Ann Arbor Wolverines: 1B S. McIndoe

Round 1, Pick 15 - Compton Brothers: RF C. Knapp

Round 1, Pick 16 - Toronto Atlantics: 2B C. Morgan

I think you have valdosta and mine mixed up. i should be 11th and he should be 15th since i traded him comptons pick not atlanta's.

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Originally Posted by JimmyOOTP (Post 1809377)

I think you have valdosta and mine mixed up. i should be 11th and he should be 15th since i traded him comptons pick not atlanta's.

The game doesn't allow me to sift between the picks you have. It just trades the lowest 1st round pick that you still had to the other team.

So I have no control over it. It's why I hate draft pick trading. ;)

we'll that is dumb. If i would have knew this i wouldn't have traded my first rounder.

Should have traded both my picks to him and then trade it back for like a 20th pick or something. Also i should get his LF and he should get
my RF.

I think draft pick trading works fine when teams just trade their pick to someone else, etc., It's when teams trade the picks of other teams, is when it gets complicated.

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Originally Posted by JimmyOOTP (Post 1809383)

Should have traded both my picks to him and then trade it back for like a 20th pick or something. Also i should get his LF and he should get
my RF.

Thats fine. If you want to offer it up as a deal I'll accept it. I didn't have Knapp rated that highly though and wouldn't have picked him there, but I would rather there be no hard feelings. I'll just take the hit and get a player I didn't really want.

FINAL SPRING TRAINING STANDINGS (1971)
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CONTINENTAL
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Valdosta (17-7)
Brooklyn (17-7)
Toronto (13-11)
Baltimore (11-13)
New York (11-13)
Rio Grande (11-13)
Atlanta (11-13)
Texas (5-19)

REPUBLIC
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Ann Arbor (15-9)
Quad City (13-11)
Compton (13-11)
Columbus (12-12)
Boston (12-12)
El Paso (12-12)
Colorado (10-14)
Hartford (9-15)

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Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1809386)

I'll make the trade as part of the one you just did, to correct what apparently didn't happen, since technically the deadline has passed.

But in all honesty did you think you were getting my 15th pick or atlanta's? I thought i was sending you my 15th is why i made the deal.

In the furture, i really think we need to remind people once they posted a trade about how the game takes the first pick availible for trade cause this really wasn't fair for Alan.

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Originally Posted by JimmyOOTP (Post 1809391)

But in all honesty did you think you were getting my 15th pick or atlanta's? I thought i was sending you my 15th is why i made the deal.

No, I assumed i was getting your 15th, that is the only reason I offered to swap them. I didn't want Knapp and this basically means I gave up a good MR for someone who was ranked about 50th or 60th on my draft list instead of a top 16 pick is all.

I'm a little upset about how it ended up, but like I said, its just a game and no reason for hard feelings as you got the bad end of the stick too. I'm just willing to do the trade to end the frustration for you is all.

Is there no way to load a backup copy you may have DC and redo it?

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Originally Posted by JimmyOOTP (Post 1809392)

In the furture, i really think we need to remind people once they posted a trade about how the game takes the first pick availible for trade cause this really wasn't fair for Alan.

I honestly had no idea, because draft pick trading isn't that rampant.

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Originally Posted by JimmyOOTP (Post 1809395)

Is there no way to load a backup copy you may have DC and redo it?

Nah, don't worry about it. I'm ready to get the season started.

Plus I am eager to see this file and figure out how my team went 17-7 in spring training. I had a 6 man pitching staff where 4 of the starting pitchers are what I would class as career minor leaguers.

Yeah, no way I'm re-running the file. We've already gotten passed this phase. In the future, folks just need not to trade picks from other teams. I can watch out for the draft order, but you'll just have to alert me on draft day so I can be mindful of it, that's all.

I like how Quad city went 13-11:)

Players swapped, per the agreed deal that you all outlined.

Preparing the file now.

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1809399)

I didn't trade my pick from another team though. I was trading my own. But its all good, now i understand how it works and will be sure it will not happen again.

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Originally Posted by JimmyOOTP (Post 1809401)

I like how Quad city went 13-11:)

13-11 with subs playing at key positions and no fatigue on.

:popcorn:

File is packing now.

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Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1809393)

Knapp might not look like the better player now, but he's got way better potential and with the way you develop players...

I keep forgeting to put a 40 man roster at spring training.

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1809407)

Knapp might not look like the better player now, but he's got way better potential and with the way you develop players...

He doesn't have the defense I require for a Right fielder, doesn't have the bat I want for a left fielder and doesn't have the range I want for a center fielder.

At this point though we'll have to just wait and see how he develops, no big deal. Maybe karma will help me out and I'll get lucky with him. After the way my first pick from last year has gotten absolutely destroyed by the ratings demon, I think I deserve it :)

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Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1809409)

I forgot, you have standards. Defense and all... :p

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1809411)

I forgot, you have standards. Defense and all... :p

Well as Yogi Berra said... defense is 50% of the game.. offense is also 50%, and so is pitching, that is 50% too.

Server problems. Gotta diagnose

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1809407)

Knapp might not look like the better player now, but he's got way better potential and with the way you develop players...

Is it possible we could look at the five players picked around where Alan's pick was supposed to be and then edit Knapp's potentials to be of comparable level to the average of them?

Not something I would normally want to suggest doing, but that's a pretty messed up situation.

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1809422)

Funny i was thinking the same thing just now.. I feel bad this happened.

I like my picks. I stacked pitchers high because good ones were rare, and got one of the best starters. Then I got several of the hitter talent (most of which was pretty similar after the first round), and then, as per my usual, I got the two best MRs late in the draft. Only guy I didn't recognize was the 9th rounder.

FTP server is being goofy. I'd rather not move the file to another one, because then people will have to download an entirely new file. So...lemme see if I can get them to fix it.

BTW, not that winning Spring Training means anything good (prior to last year), but no one should read anything into the Rancheros' 10-14 record. As usual, hardly any of the guys getting regular team will be more than backups for the squad this year.

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1809422)

There isn't really anything wrong with his ratings. He just isn't the type of player I pick for my teams. Perhaps in a few years he'll either improve in those categories or he'll be a player that someone else would like enough to get decent trade value for.

I'm not too worried about it. If I had known all of this would have happened, I would have rather kept my MR. I chose to trade him as I had the top 16 mapped out and knew I would get one of those for him so pulled the trigger. I think it would be a mistake to start editing ratings because of perceived wronging, that sets up a slippery slope that I would rather not have.. I don't really like the idea of any ratings ever being edited for any reason really outside of the game.

Lets focus on the regular season where I'm about to pull a repeat on everyone!

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1809426)

That was the strategy I used in last year's draft only to see my top two SPs have talent hits after the draft almost immediately... so I chose to go a different path this time :) (I know it is just bad luck, but figured I would as I have no minor league depth and would rather try to stock it back up with players I could use in a few years)

Btw i did have the Left fielder in my draft list at 9th jusso you know.

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Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1809430)

Maybe we can trade out talents? Improve Knapp defensively, but drop his GAP/EYE/K rate a bit, or make him a worse base stealer? Or make him older. He can be the oldest player in the class with just a year added. :)

Seems like i like my 5th and possibly my 6th round picks better than my 1st round! :)

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1809436)

lol.. I think I'll be fine. Chances are with the way I handle my minor leagues he won't even be on my team this time next year. :)

I do think he needs a nickname though. I'll take that as the only edit I'd be happy with. Can we name him: Christian "Red-headed Stepchild" Knapp ?

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Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1809430)

Slippery slope indeed. Sensible position here. I'm glad you posted, as I started to think about it a bit...and knew it'd be a bad precedent to start.

Thanks for reminding us that you pummeled us all last year.

;)

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Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1809442)

I do think he needs a nickname though. I'll take that as the only edit I'd be happy with. Can we name him: Christian "Red-headed Stepchild" Knapp ?

Done, even has red hair.

P.S. Chief, to cross-league post.. I really need you to win your bowl game in BBCF vs whomever it is (I think UCLA) as the only hope I have now of making my boosters happy is for everyone I faced this year to have good wins, and improve their rankings enough for my final year ratings to get in the top 8!