I basically jumped a little hastily on some lines of thinking early on and people thought I was trying to hide behind their logic.

Or they really didn't like my dentist joke from day one, lol.

Hmm, I missed that part. Why are we (and by that I actually mean the plural you, to whomever it applies) assuming saldana is a villager?

yeah, i switched to packer for coattailing on my vote two days in a row

no one is assuming...i am a villager.

Not enough time to really read the thread. I'll help put the nail in the coffin and hope for the best.

VOTE PACKERSFANATIC

Sorry about the loss the other day to the Lions.

Got it. By the way, be aware of ties, people. It's 7-6 now. Although right now I'm not convinced that a tie is a bad thing, anyway.

Whoa, then I really missed something.

Sure, kill me physically AND emotionally. Harsh... ;)

sal, can you point out what I missed?

Whoops, I guess it was 7-5. Luckily there were no shenanigans anyway.

oh, you didnt miss anything...i am just declaring i am a villager, so that, ipso facto, means no one is assuming anything...they are simply accepting my declaration as fact.

Because typically it's villager vs. villager on D1, and we also didn't see a lot of movement as stuff tightened up towards deadline last night.

It's not a sure thing, but we're operating on that likely assumption as we look towards the smallest pool of potential wolves.

good one

Sorry I couldn't contribute more. I will do so tomorrow morning before work.

I want more to go on than that before assuming anything. Do you think there would have been a lot of movement off you to sal on D1 if sal were a wolf? I don't think so -- so I don't see how "there wasn't much movement to him" means anything. Or do you mean there wasn't movement to save sal? If so -- why would there be? He didn't seem in any real danger from when I read back.

Ugh. My DSL went down just at deadline.

Double ugh. I was feeling a bit worried here at deadline, but I thought we had gone on a pretty solid hunch this time.

Hopefully someone else has something good in the voting. That was the only real hunch I had. Well, maybe I'll see something else when I go back through, but I spoiled my good streak of hunches!

Fffuuuuuuck.

Yes!

VOTE.... oh, right. Never mind.

Wait, crap. Is that one of the special wolf powers, an extra kill? Nope, not unless that was their gift to make up for losing Jack. Or was Darth guarding Pass and got killed? Sometimes that happens if the brutal does the kill but I think EF would have spelled that out in the rules. I guess Pass would still be alive though in that case. Double crap.

My guess is it was their bonus.

Damn this has been a bad catchup. Sorry to hear about the situation with your kid, RA, and welcome to the game.

Not a good run of results there for us but hopefully the seer is gathering information and staying inconspicuous.

Guessing that was their bonus. Damn.

Well, thoughts on why they picked Pass and DV? Those don't seem obvious picks at all. Did DV let on that he was bodyguard? I hardly remember him posting at all. Pass was active, so maybe there's a clue there as to why he was targeted.

FYI I just became th Ghost of Christmas Future

Is this a joke or are you a new role instead of being removed?

DV was an interesting pick. Proving we were villager/villager and muddying the waters further.

I guess that answers my earlier question about the wolves' gift.

Well, crap. Trying to look at this in a positive way, but three villagers down... ugh.

I guess, time to go over everything from today again.

I'll have to remember that idea if I end up with another Christmas game at some point. :)

It leaves all the Sal/ DT voters on the board from D1 so we can't narrow down that group, except DT.

Yeah it was a joke

well that doesnt exactly seem like a very beneficial "bonus"...we proc the extra villager and they get an extra kill...what exactly was the point...all we got was one extra guy for one day.

Well not exactly, I mean they didn't get a kill last night so we're still kind of ahead.

So quickly looking back, my first thought is, what's up with you Danny? This is a very strange Danny game - I'd say it was wolfish but I would expect wolf Danny to be just on top of things as villager Danny.

I fell asleep. That said, while my vote ended up a throw away, Saldana was a better candidate than either Darth or Packer.

no, he wasn't

and i have yet to see any logic that says he is.

what i do see is you, i regard as a member of the upper echelon of WW players, playing in a manner i dont consider typical...you have nothing on me, yet this is the second day in a row you have woken up and tried to start a drive on me.

By pure math, there are 11 players left in the game and at least (I'm guessing this is the correct number too) 6 roles left in the game. By my count, that's a 60% chance of hitting a role today, since I know I'm a vanilla villager.

The only person who really jumps out at me after reading through the thread is Chief Rum.

VOTE CHIEF RUM

I can switch it up later on after work.

Oh, and out of the 60% chance of hitting a role today with the lynch, we have a 50-50 shot of hitting a wolf.

OK, chilling in a hotel room relaxing with my son for the morning, gonna dig in a little deeper.

Day 1

DaddyTorgo 5 - saldana (57), MartinD (67), Chief Rum (91), Lathum (109), thejuggler3 (121)
saldana 4 - Danny (97), Autumn (116), DaddyTorgo (126), The Jackal (137)
PackerFanatic 2 - Coffee Warlord (82), Darth Vilus (92)
Chief Rum 1 - Passacaglia (73)

No Vote- RA, PF

Day 2 Vote

PackerFanatic 8 - Autumn (196), Coffee Warlord (211), MartinD (227), Darth Vilus (241), saldana (247), thejuggler3 (281), Lathum (286), Raiders Army (306)
Darth Vilus 5 - PackerFanatic (225), Chief Rum (237), The Jackal (267), DaddyTorgo (276), Passacaglia (299)
saldana 1 - Danny (238)

OK, so guys in green are known villagers

Last thing...it's actually less than that if you consider the probability of the wolves manipulating the vote, so I think we have a pretty good chance of hitting a villager or a villager-friendly role today. Not good.

Gotta get ready for work, but why would the wolves hit Darth? Wouldn't it seem as if he'd at least be a good candidate for today? Did they know he was the bodyguard?

So the following people have voted for a known villager twice

Saldana
Martin D
Chief Rum
Lathum
theJuggler
CoffeeWarlord
RA-no D1 vote

So that leaves

Danny
The Jackal
Autumn

I'm leaving DT out of this because he is a know villager.