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SirFozzie 09-01-2008 08:16 PM

(Nerd) Firefox, IE, Opera, and... Google Chrome?
 
Well now, this is going to be interesting.

Google's entering the Browser Wars tomorrow, when they allow folks to download the beta version of their new browser, called Google Chrome.

Going to be interesting, they've added a new JavaScript engine, and added code so that a site that would crash a browser will now only close the tab that you were in. Very streamlined apparently. Also will be fully up to date with Google's Anti-Phishing database for safe browsing.

Looks like it's completely open-source (if true, wonder how soon the new features will be added into IE and Firefox 3)

Official Google Blog: A fresh take on the browser

Groundhog 09-01-2008 08:27 PM

Interesting. I think Firefox pretty much gives me everything I want, but I'll give Chrome (dumb name IMO, but hey, wtf is a Firefox) a shot.

Big Fo 09-01-2008 08:30 PM

Hopefully it inspires more browser elitism.

Maple Leafs 09-01-2008 08:30 PM

BUT IS THERE AN AD BLOCKER???

MJ4H 09-01-2008 08:34 PM

More browser competition is a good thing. There is always something about a browser that pisses me off. Maybe this one will cure all of my problems!

Currently, firefox doesn't close cleanly for me about half the time or better. I close it and then later when I try to restart it, it says it is still running and can't start because of it and I have to open up Process Explorer to kill it before I can start it again. I was about ready to move back to Opera again, but I might hold off and try this one tomorrow.

sachmo71 09-01-2008 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Groundhog (Post 1821682)
wtf is a Firefox


The most kickass Russian plane ever created!


Cringer 09-01-2008 09:39 PM

Netscape Navigator all the way, best ad-blocker on the market.

DanGarion 09-01-2008 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Groundhog (Post 1821682)
Interesting. I think Firefox pretty much gives me everything I want, but I'll give Chrome (dumb name IMO, but hey, wtf is a Firefox) a shot.


Dude haven't you ever seen the movie!?!?!?



SackAttack 09-01-2008 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 1821687)
BUT IS THERE AN AD BLOCKER???


Maybe if it ain't Google AdWords, it won't display?

ISiddiqui 09-02-2008 12:31 AM

Just read the "comic" and it sounds amazingly interesting. I'm convinced now that every browser should be multi-process (I didn't know what that even meant before) and the tab-focus of the browser is also pretty interesting.

Groundhog 09-02-2008 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 1822001)
Just read the "comic" and it sounds amazingly interesting. I'm convinced now that every browser should be multi-process (I didn't know what that even meant before) and the tab-focus of the browser is also pretty interesting.


Yeah, I didn't expect to learn so much from a comic. Very interesting, and very smart way to do it.

DaddyTorgo 09-02-2008 01:03 AM

looks like at some point there will be plugin-capability (though how much of that will be able to be ported from existing firefox extensions IDK), so that's a plus

Izulde 09-02-2008 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Groundhog (Post 1822004)
Yeah, I didn't expect to learn so much from a comic. Very interesting, and very smart way to do it.


They stole it from the Japanese manga concept. :D

sterlingice 09-02-2008 07:15 AM

I'm curious how well their Javascript virtual machine works. Sun's Java VM works pretty well but is by no means perfect and Microsoft's is awful. That said, JS is a lot less robust and much simpler of a language so this should be a lot easier.

SI

Maple Leafs 09-02-2008 08:29 AM

Anyone finding this yet?

The download link just redirects me to the google homepage.

Fidatelo 09-02-2008 08:30 AM

So where is this thing? It's tuesday and I can't find a link to download it from anywhere.

Fidatelo 09-02-2008 09:01 AM

God damned GMT... so that's... ummm... noon eastern?

gstelmack 09-02-2008 09:28 AM

Wonder how many years it will take to get out of "beta" state. G-Mail is still technically beta, isn't it?

Alan T 09-02-2008 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gstelmack (Post 1822157)
Wonder how many years it will take to get out of "beta" state. G-Mail is still technically beta, isn't it?



Yeah, at the top it still says it is Beta

Maple Leafs 09-02-2008 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2 (Post 1822135)
I read somewhere its out at 1800 GMT.

What time is that in english?

MikeVic 09-02-2008 11:09 AM

Google Mean Time?

Cringer 09-02-2008 11:12 AM

Reading through that cartoon as me interested now. I will give it a try. My hope is that it works with some of the work related sites I have to go to, which Firefox does not work on. Probably won't work on this either at first, but maybe down the line.

PackerFanatic 09-02-2008 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cringer (Post 1822238)
Reading through that cartoon as me interested now. I will give it a try. My hope is that it works with some of the work related sites I have to go to, which Firefox does not work on. Probably won't work on this either at first, but maybe down the line.


+1

Drake 09-02-2008 12:20 PM

Am I the only one getting a Jack Chick religious tract vibe off the Google cartoon (both in animation style and propaganda value)?

Chick Publications

BrianD 09-02-2008 01:48 PM

Google Chrome - Download a new browser

Available now.

Maple Leafs 09-02-2008 02:00 PM

First impression: damn this thing is fast. Is it sneaking into other browser's cache files or is it really loading pages this quickly?

DaddyTorgo 09-02-2008 02:02 PM

ML - if you read the comic they talk a little about how they improve speed

DaddyTorgo 09-02-2008 02:03 PM

crucially - i presume it has a way of importing FF bookmarks?

any sign of plugin interoperability, or plugin interoperability to come?

Fidatelo 09-02-2008 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1822357)
crucially - i presume it has a way of importing FF bookmarks?

any sign of plugin interoperability, or plugin interoperability to come?


Yes, it imported all of my FF stuff on install.

It is fast. Very fast.

PackerFanatic 09-02-2008 02:07 PM

Can't complain so far. Looks clean.

KWhit 09-02-2008 02:07 PM

Seems okay so far. I like the integrated search, but it's uh... Returning some bookmarks that I wish it wouldn't as I type. I hope I can hide some of those....

DaddyTorgo 09-02-2008 02:07 PM

yay! well if it'll play nice and import my FF stuff then I'll definately give it a look-see later.

Alan T 09-02-2008 02:07 PM

Two must haves for me on any browser in this day and time:

1) Some type of no-script functionality that does not require a PhD to use.
2) Some form of ad-blocking.

Does this have either or both of these? Just wondering if it is worth downloading to give it a try or not.

Toddzilla 09-02-2008 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanGarion (Post 1821982)
Dude haven't you ever seen the movie!?!?!?

fighter pilot Clint Eastwood FTW~!

Fidatelo 09-02-2008 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit (Post 1822364)
Seems okay so far. I like the integrated search, but it's uh... Returning some bookmarks that I wish it wouldn't as I type. I hope I can hide some of those....


There is a privacy mode where you can open a tab that will not remember any cookies or history once you close it. So you could use that for your, umm, secret stuff. Not sure how you can hide bookmarks though.

BrianD 09-02-2008 02:11 PM

I'm curious how long it will take the AdBlock people to have a Chrome plug-in. I'm guessing it will be pretty quick. This will be a good test for how good the plug-in hooks are.

DaddyTorgo 09-02-2008 02:12 PM

good call AlanT...good call!

if it doesn't now presumably it will soon i hope?

DaddyTorgo 09-02-2008 02:13 PM

woot woot...porn bookmarks!

does that mean it's going to have dailyniner on my "top viewed webpages" lil homepage thing? cuz that would just be...embarassing.

Barkeep49 09-02-2008 02:19 PM

So this post comes via Chrome. So far, I can't imagine this surpassing Firefox for me. For instance the graphics on the board are broken, there is quote, but multiquote isn't displaying correctly.

DaddyTorgo 09-02-2008 02:21 PM

bahhh --- booo...multiquote is the coolest!!!

ah well - give it some time - after all it's still in beta

Barkeep49 09-02-2008 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 1822350)
First impression: damn this thing is fast. Is it sneaking into other browser's cache files or is it really loading pages this quickly?

I didn't find it notably quick (though I'm on a quick connection). I'm wondering if it has google web accelerator built-in, which would make sense.

BrianD 09-02-2008 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1822386)
bahhh --- booo...multiquote is the coolest!!!

ah well - give it some time - after all it's still in beta


Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 1822387)
I didn't find it notably quick (though I'm on a quick connection). I'm wondering if it has google web accelerator built-in, which would make sense.


Multiquote seemed to work ok here...

DanGarion 09-02-2008 02:29 PM

Already found a bug. It doesn't use the proxy settings correctly. I can bypass my works firewall in IE with the settings but it doesn't work in Chrome.

Honestly they need to use their own settings and not rely on the built in Windows ones.

Cringer 09-02-2008 02:30 PM

So far I am enjoying this. Very clean, simple look. I notice it being faster in some areas, especially here on FOFC when you 'hover' the mouse over threads and the like.

Barkeep49 09-02-2008 02:30 PM

Ok my first impression was wrong. It is ridiculously fast. I'm less enamored of the pop-up blocker which opened in the lower right hand corner for me and which I found much more intrusive than IE or FF.

BrianD 09-02-2008 02:42 PM

I do like that tabs can be re-ordered just by dragging them around. Pulling them out of and back into the main browser window is also nice.

Cringer 09-02-2008 02:45 PM

Main complaint, so far. I don't like that you have to have the whole bookmark toolbar there just so you can have access to the bookmarks folder. Not a huge deal because I still have the same site viewing area as on FF now, but I was enjoying the extra real estate. The bookmarks folder should be right next to the icons above on the address bar.

DanGarion 09-02-2008 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianD (Post 1822389)
Multiquote seemed to work ok here...


FYI, multiquote isn't really well supported in the skins that FOFC uses anyway. The graphics appear to be an afterthought most the time, so I don't know if that's really Googles fault if they are messed up...

PackerFanatic 09-02-2008 02:51 PM

I agree with the bookmarks, although with no toolbar or title bar up top, and no status bar on the bottom, keeping the bookmark toolbar open doesn't bother me much.

Cringer 09-02-2008 02:57 PM

Just had my first crash. The whole browser, not just a tab which is one of the features I liked reading about. Not sure why it crashed. The good thing is it asked to restart, I said yes, and it was back up and I was typing this within seconds. That was pretty fast even though the crash sucked.


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