NFL 2019 Season Thread
 

I think we can start a new one with this announcement

Oakland Raiders to be featured on 'Hard Knocks'

That should be fun, to say the least

No doubt about it. I might have to resubscribe to HBO NOW when it comes on.

Chucky = Fun

:popcorn:

The reports on Matt Stafford this morning are a bit disturbing. Playing through broken bones in your back is both amazing and kind of sickening.

I've seen some shocking stories before but ... Jesus :(

Dolphins' Norton has arm amputated after crash

It's kinda icky they run to press with amputation news cause he has a famous sounding name and lost limbs draw clicks. I hope he's ok

Shocker that it's 40 Yards of Fool's Gold

I can't believe this guy is in poor academic standing

Excited to be excepted into the 2019 nfl supplemental draft... July 10th.

— Shy (@shycullen24) June 21, 2019

The NFL has proposed an 18-game season with a 16 game per-player season limit.

16 games seems like plenty from a fan standpoint, but it'd be fascinating to see the strategies employed by teams to work in backup QBs, kickers/punters, etc (unless those positions are exempt).

The only thing I don't like about this is it further de-emphasizes divisional games. We went from 8 of 16 games being within the division to 6 of 16. This would make it 6 of 18.

But I do like the idea of the 16 game limit for players and the strategy implications for the 2 games of backups, especially for QB's. They'd almost certainly have to expand the roster sizes to make this happen.

I don't see how that works at QB/WR in particular. Owners just getting out in front so they can pull this off the table & say how nice they are only having 16 games during CBA negotiations. I also still think an NFL sponsored/affiliated spring 7v7esque league to help develop/find guys at the skill positions where weekly wear & tear isn't as severe would be a big moneymaker. XFL2? Couldn't care less. Jarrett Stidham throwing to N'Keal Harry, Braxton Berrios, and these 6 other UDFA's or no-name FA's with Patriots helmets on? I'm in.

Speaking of Patriots passing duos, Brady was in LA last week & just happened to work out with Rob Gronkowski... It's the most obvious joke in the world, but I agree the odds of Gronk coming back in November have now offically gone from 50/50 to 69%.

Still don't understand why they haven't moved on a second bye week. Same number of games but an extra week of regular season to sell, but gets more rest for players.

I like the idea of an 18 game season with 2 bye weeks.

I know these things are incremental but 20 regular season games with 4 player bye weeks and no regular bye weeks and no preseason games is probably where it should be. No need for a developmental league if you just run a 70 man extended roster

It just seems like a very strange move to intentionally degrade the quality of your product. Injuries aside, a football season is short enough where you can rely on every team putting their best 46 players on the field for every game. But instead you want to scrape off on average 5 or 6 of those guys for every game? Seems crazy.

Although I'll appreciate the irony of a Pats game getting flexed to SNF and then NBC gets stuck with Brian Hoyer behind center.

I'm all for a second bye week, but very much opposed to an 18 game schedule.

16 games
2 bye weeks
No one gets Thursday football on short rest

We aren't in agreement all that often but, yeah, this is some MLB-caliber dumb a.f. stuff as proposals go.

We already have 4 games with backup QB's, fluctuating rosters, and less cohesive play - it's called the preseason and it sucks. You want to move these 4 games into the meat of the schedule and count them for playoff purposes?

The main thing separating the quality of the NFL product from bad alternative leagues is those top 20 or so QB's, and you want a system where they're forced to sit 20% of the games?

Btw in this hypothetical world, would you just play your QB the first 16 weeks & hope you've clinched by the last two? Or would you try and sneak out a couple wins vs a terrible team/throw a game vs a very good one in the middle of the season? If it wasn't for all the other reasons it's a bad idea, this would be shot down by Vegas in a heartbeat.

The 18-game season with 2 byes and no short weeks before Thursday night games seems like a nifty solution.

16 games is the perfect fit. Maybe a 2nd bye. The proposed idea is just plain idiocy.

I should clarify. I meant 16 games + 2 byes = 18 week season.

If they got 18/16 route...how long before the owners get into a collusion argument.


Ok Jerry, I'll sit all my startes this week when we travel to Dallas, and then you sit yours when you come to ...both home crowds will get to see a W we get a season split.


Or how many players would want to choose their sit week when visiting Denver or GreenBay in December...and then home field advantage gets real.

The 16/18 idea seems like a negotiating ploy that isn't well thought through. It is an absolute certainty that pretty quickly a team will have to sit their QB for the last two games after they've turned their season around and look like a possible playoff team. No amount of, They should have prepared for this..., is going to make it any less of a disaster for the NFL and that team's fans. Does the NFL really want the end of a season to be dominated by talk about a stupid rule that keeps players from playing?

edit: Or what about an owner that plays all his guys and dares the NFL to make him forfeit when he needs twenty replacements in weeks 17 and 18?

I think the move is to just sit as many key starters as possible week 1 and 2. Try to split and proceed accordingly. Unless you have an early bye week. Theoretically all your backups are as coached up as possible at the start of the season. And you can grind out at least 1 win regardless.

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I think doing it in the first few games is a bad move because some of these guys might get injured during the season. If you sit them early, then you can't potentially use their injured games to eat up those 2 absences.

This was my thought.

I think it is an absolutely terrible idea, and headed down the path that has given the NBA problems. Considering some NFL fans are all over the country could make it worse. It would be pretty crappy for a Packers fan in say, Tampa Bay, to pay top dollar for a ticket just to have that be a game Arod sits.

Does it address kickers? How do you handle that?

The whole 18 games, but players can only play 16 games, is very dumb. It would negatively impact fantasy football and could negatively impact gambling, both of which are critical to the NFL's success. I don't see it happening.

16 NFL games is plenty. I'd love to see the pre-season reduced to 2 (or 3) games.

Looks like Tyreek Hill will not be suspended this season. I think that most people had assumed he would be.

Mark Sanchez retires from the NFL for ABC/ESPN job. I'd like to rub this in with my Jets loving twin brother, but kinda hard right now coming from a Cards fan :)


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Learned through that article that FOX is trying to re-start their college pregame show. Didn't they try that already with Erin Andrews?

Jarran Reed is for 6 games though in another case the police declined to press charges. So I guess "you can't prove if it was me or my gf/wife who broke our child's arm, and let's just ignore the tape recordings where I say she should be afraid of me too" is now an accepted defense by the NFL. I believe the NFL's statement also implied that the fact the Missouri DCF took the kid away from Hill & the gf/wife is a point against suspending him? Shurg, villains are always fun to root against I guess.

Just to clear up some things...

1) the hospital that treated their son's arm said the break was consistent with a person trying to brace for a fall, and not any abuse
2) the full 11 minute tape recording shows that Tyreek's "afraid of me too" was in reference to him exposing Crystal and her family's false testimony to the Oklahoma City Police in the 2014 incident
3) It was the Kansas DCF that temporarily removed the child from the family, as per procedure. He has since been returned to the two of them. It was the recommendation of the DCF that Crystal be evaluated for possibly suffering from Munchhausen syndrome.


For some detailed investigative reporting on the situation, read this: Sex, Lies and Audiotape: Can Tyreek Hill Outrun The Espinal Family?

Packers release Mike Daniels (in the last year of his deal with a $10 mil salary). He's a big name, but he's really only a 3rd down rusher with this team. He struggled to fit with Pettine last year (10 games - 2 sacks, 5 QB hits and 18 tackles) before hitting IR with a foot injury. I think he'll be a nice addition to a team on a cheap contract, but I can see why GB cut him. There's as good a chance that he ends up on the IR again this year (and the team eats the $10 mil) as there is that he's a productive player living up to the 1-$10 mil deal.

He was a good Hawkeye. Sorry to see this. Hope he recovers and continues his career.

I think Daniels is still a good player. But, with the team signing and drafting guys to play the 3-technique, his role was going to be diminished. I think the Packers cutting him was because of three factors:

1. He wanted a new contract and the team didn't want to pay him. This probably would have been an issue all year. And, if you combine his lack of PT going into a UFA season with not getting an extension - it probably wouldn't have gone well.

2. The team drafted Gary, added Z'Darius Smith and wants use a recent pick in Montravious Adams as inside rushers on 3rd downs. That's really the main usefulness for Daniels at the stage and he looks like just a rotational guy with this group (esp after adding in Clark and Lowry on normal downs).

3. Given Daniels' recent injury history (8 games and IR stints in the past two), his salary ($10 mil) and the risk that he goes on the IR because of injury or injury + unhappiness, I think the team thought it was best to cut him before camp. It sounded like they have been offering him for a pick since June and there were no takers for his salary. There are stories the team will use his $10 mil to extend some upcoming FAs, something they couldn't do if he played and ended up on the IR.

All in all, it was kind of a perfect storm where a useful player got cut before camp. He will help the team that gets him (as long as his health holds up).

I know it happens every year but it’s totally screwed up that a team can roster a guy for 97% of the offseason and then dump him when all the money/roster spots are dried up elsewhere

So Tyreek is the victim here and in 2014? She and her family are after his money, but also made up allegations that got him kicked off Oklahoma State and broke off his huge money extension talks? We're alleging she made up the punching/strangling story, he pled guilty to it even though he was completely innocent, and was so forgiving he continued their relationship and got engaged to her 4 years later? Yeah, she might be crazy too, but I'm not buying that he's an innocent bystander this whole time.

My apologies on the geographic mistake.

Yes. Although if a player has enough leverage, he can negotiate for roster bonuses to be due right before free agency starts, forcing the team to cut him early if they don't want to pay it.

Does anyone understand the flexing rules and what games can't be moved? The Patriots host the Chiefs on December 8 with a 4:25pm listed start... is CBS allowed to protect some games - it seems odd this isn't already a Monday night game since it's a top 3 game. I might have some friends come down for a football weekend with the ACC Championship game that Saturday night, but if the Patriots game is just going to get flexed to Sunday night it would screw up travel plans.

Yes, they can protect games but they don't make those decisions until the season is underway. Unless Mahomes or Brady get hurt, I would feel comfortable that CBS would protect it. None of the other CBS games are that attractive.

Also, the Sunday night game is Seahawks-Rams. Unless the Seahawks completely fall apart, that should still be a key dividional game and the Rams offense is a ratings draw (plus, it's LA). So I think Bishop is safe.

Although I do think it's weird the NFL didn't find a way to put that in primetime somewhere.

Similar to Colts/Pats I think they might want to rotate them and since it was on Sunday night last year, CBS wants it this year.

heh, Golden Tate suspended for 4 games, Coleman out for the season and Shepherd a doubt for the season opener. With Eli Manning's continued excellence, should be a great season up ahead in New York.

I'm the one who lives here, so I'm great regardless, it's my friends who could be screwed! ;) Sounds like we should be good, and if not I'll tell them to blame Goodell, Ebersol (is he still alive?), and Chief Rum/henry296. :)

So my beloved Cards had yet another 1st rounder bust on them, this time Robert Nkemdiche was released after showing up to camp not in shape after recovering from an injury. Fellow 1st rounder Haason Reddick may be heading there too with a knee injury this camp already, though he may be back for week 1, Since 2012 only 3 first rounders remain on the roster. I can only hope kyler murray doesn't end up joining that list some day.