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path12 03-09-2015 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 3008587)
Been a while since most of us have played.


:D True.

EagleFan 03-09-2015 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian (Post 3008586)
Come on EF. Even if I was scum with GE, I'd still throw him under the bus instead of dying. You can do better than that.


Wanted to see you do that. :)

timmae 03-09-2015 09:00 PM

I switched mine over.. GE. Are you talking about brit?

The Jackal 03-09-2015 09:01 PM

Deadline

The Jackal 03-09-2015 09:02 PM

Final Vote Count:

6 - GoldenEagle - Zinto (80), Narcizo (166), Suicane75 (177), path12 (204), timmae (240), fontisian (244)
5 - fontisian - HomerSimpson98 (180), Raven (192), Grover (214), GoldenEagle (223), EagleFan (242)
2 - Suicane75 - Chief Rum (174), JAG (216)
1 - timmae - britrock88 (152)
1 - Raven - cheekimonk (239)

path12 03-09-2015 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3008591)
I switched mine over.. GE. Are you talking about brit?


D'oh. Yep.

OK, dinner time. Back later. Hope we get one though likely we didn't.

The Jackal 03-09-2015 09:06 PM

As the sun dips beneath the distant valley, you finally come to a decision. GoldenEagle is forced to his knees to await his fate. A sword is then plunged through his heart expertly, dropping him to the cobbled floor.

As the dark magic recedes from his form, you recognize the face. GoldenEagle was a common soldier.

GoldenEagle 03-09-2015 09:06 PM

Two games in a row I have essentially been voted out on Day 1. Fun game.

The Jackal 03-09-2015 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle (Post 3008597)
Two games in a row I have essentially been voted out on Day 1. Fun game.


(siren music)

The Jackal 03-09-2015 09:17 PM

As you wake, you realize that another of your company has left for the Void.

Narcizo was a common soldier.

The Jackal 03-09-2015 09:19 PM

Day 2 has begun. Who are the infiltrators?

EagleFan 03-09-2015 09:19 PM

Interesting choice by the wolves.

britrock88 03-09-2015 09:19 PM

Dammit, no easy vote analysis. Sorry to see you go, Narc! :)

EagleFan 03-09-2015 09:21 PM

vote saldana

EagleFan 03-09-2015 09:23 PM

6 - GoldenEagle - Zinto (80), Narcizo (166), Suicane75 (177), path12 (204), timmae (240), fontisian (244)
5 - fontisian - HomerSimpson98 (180), Raven (192), Grover (214), GoldenEagle (223), EagleFan (242)
2 - Suicane75 - Chief Rum (174), JAG (216)
1 - timmae - britrock88 (152)
1 - Raven - cheekimonk (239)

JAG 03-09-2015 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by britrock88 (Post 3008604)
Dammit, no easy vote analysis. Sorry to see you go, Narc! :)


Any chance you'll have time to put up a flowchart of the day's voting?

JAG 03-09-2015 09:27 PM

Vote Zinto

Still interested in Sui, but I'm going with someone who didn't gather momentum D1 and was on the villager lynch.

cheekimonk 03-09-2015 09:36 PM

Interesting. I'm leaning Suicane.

EagleFan 03-09-2015 10:07 PM

Code:

Post        Time        Voter                Vote            Unvote
76        4:07        Narcizo              britrock88       
80        7:04        Zinto                GoldenEagle       
81        7:11        JAG                  saldana       
82        7:45        EagleFan            Zinto       
88        8:11        timmae              Grover       
96        9:57        Grover              Suicane75       
101        10:29        Chief Rum        Raven       
108        11:43        Raven                Suicane75       
112        11:57        cheekimonk        timmae       
123        12:25        Suicane75        Grover       
128        12:28        britrock88        JAG       
134        12:43        path12              britrock88       
152        14:18        britrock88        timmae              JAG
160        15:50        EagleFan                        Zinto
161        15:52        EagleFan        Raven       
163        15:57        JAG                  GoldenEagle        saldana
166        16:25        Narcizo              GoldenEagle        britrock88
174        16:55        Chief Rum        Suicane75        Raven
176        17:19        timmae              JAG                  Grover
177        17:23        Suicane75        GoldenEagle        Grover
180        18:06        HomerSimpson98        fontisian       
189        18:35        JAG                  fontisian        GoldenEagle
190        18:35        GoldenEagle        Suicane75       
192        18:42        Raven                fontisian        Suicane75
197        18:58        cheekimonk        britrock88        timmae
204        19:11        path12              GoldenEagle        britrock88
207        19:13        EagleFan        GoldenEagle        Grover
214        19:34        Grover              fontisian        Suicane75
216        20:02        JAG                    Suicane75        fontisian
223        20:25        GoldenEagle        fontisian        Suicane75
237        20:49        EagleFan        Raven                GoldenEagle
239        21:22        cheekimonk        Raven                britrock88
240        21:37        timmae              GoldenEagle        JAG
242        21:48        EagleFan        fontisian        Raven
244        21:54        fontisian        GoldenEagle        Raven


path12 03-09-2015 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle (Post 3008597)
Two games in a row I have essentially been voted out on Day 1. Fun game.


Sorry dude, I didn't know.

path12 03-09-2015 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG (Post 3008612)
Still interested in Sui, but I'm going with someone who didn't gather momentum D1 and was on the villager lynch.


I'll do the same but for someone who was on the second choice.

VOTE GROVER

Suicane75 03-10-2015 12:13 AM

Glad I made it through the day. And just to be clear, the run on GE had already started when I switched my vote to him out of preservation.

Grover 03-10-2015 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 3008630)
I'll do the same but for someone who was on the second choice.

VOTE GROVER


I knew it was a conspiracy.

Damn you, old man!

timmae 03-10-2015 07:05 AM

Now that day 1 is over... What do we think about EFs play? Typical for him as a villager?

Also, need to take a look why brit didn't move his vote.

Grover 03-10-2015 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3008671)
Now that day 1 is over... What do we think about EFs play? Typical for him as a villager?

Also, need to take a look why brit didn't move his vote.


I'm also wondering if font was merely a survival move or if there's something more to her change.

EagleFan 03-10-2015 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3008671)
Now that day 1 is over... What do we think about EFs play? Typical for him as a villager?

Also, need to take a look why brit didn't move his vote.


Vanilla villager. Would rather have the attention on me to give our roles a chance. Plus, it's fun.

Chances are the wolves weren't moving much yesterday based on the results.

saldana 03-10-2015 08:22 AM

hey all, really sorry for missing the day yesterday...ended up away from my desk/office all day and was with a customer, so couldnt check on my phone...will catch everything up today

timmae 03-10-2015 08:40 AM

Thanks Saldana... want to hear your thoughts for sure!

EF... consistent with the one game I reviewed of yours...

Brit?

cheekimonk 03-10-2015 08:43 AM

vote Suicane75

JAG 03-10-2015 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 3008621)
Code:

Post        Time        Voter                Vote            Unvote
76        4:07        Narcizo              britrock88       
80        7:04        Zinto                GoldenEagle       
81        7:11        JAG                  saldana       
82        7:45        EagleFan            Zinto       
88        8:11        timmae              Grover       
96        9:57        Grover              Suicane75       
101        10:29        Chief Rum        Raven       
108        11:43        Raven                Suicane75       
112        11:57        cheekimonk        timmae       
123        12:25        Suicane75        Grover       
128        12:28        britrock88        JAG       
134        12:43        path12              britrock88       
152        14:18        britrock88        timmae              JAG
160        15:50        EagleFan                        Zinto
161        15:52        EagleFan        Raven       
163        15:57        JAG                  GoldenEagle        saldana
166        16:25        Narcizo              GoldenEagle        britrock88
174        16:55        Chief Rum        Suicane75        Raven
176        17:19        timmae              JAG                  Grover
177        17:23        Suicane75        GoldenEagle        Grover
180        18:06        HomerSimpson98        fontisian       
189        18:35        JAG                  fontisian        GoldenEagle
190        18:35        GoldenEagle        Suicane75       
192        18:42        Raven                fontisian        Suicane75
197        18:58        cheekimonk        britrock88        timmae
204        19:11        path12              GoldenEagle        britrock88
207        19:13        EagleFan        GoldenEagle        Grover
214        19:34        Grover              fontisian        Suicane75
216        20:02        JAG                    Suicane75        fontisian
223        20:25        GoldenEagle        fontisian        Suicane75
237        20:49        EagleFan        Raven                GoldenEagle
239        21:22        cheekimonk        Raven                britrock88
240        21:37        timmae              GoldenEagle        JAG
242        21:48        EagleFan        fontisian        Raven
244        21:54        fontisian        GoldenEagle        Raven



Thanks EF (except for coloring yourself green)

The Jackal 03-10-2015 08:55 AM

Vote Count:

1 - saldana - EagleFan (264)
1 - Zinto - JAG (267)
1 - Grover - path12 (271)
1 - Suicane75 - cheekimonk (279)

cheekimonk 03-10-2015 09:00 AM

Sorry, meant to post my reason for the Suicane vote (on the iPhone via Tapatalk).

Day 1 he/she flipped to the GE pile-on. Wasn't extremely late but right about the time it picked up steam.

saldana 03-10-2015 09:13 AM

the thing i am most interested in from yesterday was the bouncing around on Font and Suicane..lots of votes and unvotes, but then GE still ended up getting a sword through the chest. that just seems odd to me that those 2 were on the spot and then it suddenly swung in a 3rd direction.

Grover 03-10-2015 09:26 AM

I moved to font because she seemed a little overly defensive about the voting process last night.

I am still very curious about my original vote on Suicane though. I think he's definitely a potential day two target for us lowly (french) vanillas.

timmae 03-10-2015 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3008573)
unvote JAG
vote GoldenEagle


Initial post stating he was a vanilla villager seemed odd. Voted suicane as self preservation and raven jumped ship. Claimed day 1 is a crapshoot later on.


When I voted it was down to GE and Font... GE seemed to lean more evil based on the items listed in my post above. I now know he was honest in his claim.

Suicane's posts...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suicane75 (Post 3008295)
Frenchmen die at my hand. Also cause you voted for me.

Vote: Grover


Quote:

Originally Posted by Suicane75 (Post 3008326)
In the real world I'd challenge you to a dance off, but on the mean streets of wherever this is, I can only throw a vote at you.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Suicane75 (Post 3008463)
Unvote: Grover
Vote: GoldenEagle


Just self preservation since I don't know if I'll be around at deadline. Stop voting for me though, I'm a good guy. I'm a good guy dammit.


Then today's post

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suicane75 (Post 3008646)
Glad I made it through the day. And just to be clear, the run on GE had already started when I switched my vote to him out of preservation.


And also Font's posts;

Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian (Post 3008345)
I didn't physically do it, but the whole "murder all the medics" was absolutely my plan. :)

Vote: Raven
This is not a drill.


Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian (Post 3008348)
This my way of saying that you over explained your RVS vote (... and also that snitches thing).


Leans toward good, trying to think through items?

Then there was the odd Zinto/Font conversation about answering for others'.

Then more analysis from font... would a wolf be doing this? Setting hints for future claims?

Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian (Post 3008530)
I'm doing a quick unaligned pairs analysis and of the five pairs I've found so far, four of them are next to each other alphabetically. It's bizarre.


More analysis

Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian (Post 3008541)
Did you see the way Chief ran away from the Raven lynch once it started to gain momentum?


You had three votes, Suicane had three, timmae had 2 and I had two. There was no clear counterwagon to yours, yet you went for the easiest one without any thought or analysis. Why?


Then EF put her vote on alert... it had only one place to go whether she is villager or wolf

Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian (Post 3008581)
Unvote Raven
Vote GoldenEagle

It makes me revert back to a time when font was a synonym for fuck.


My Analysis

I am thinking that font is leaning good. She was throwing in some analysis of the situations and voting patterns. More than I think a wolf would add to maintain cover. I don't like how quite suicane really was all day. Just kind of around... then an easy vote and poof. I am leaning towards voting suicane but I am not 100% decided. Place holder for now until suicane provides feedback:

vote suicane

timmae 03-10-2015 09:33 AM

Just want to add that I still think I need to look at other possibilities than font or suicane obviously but wanted to get some thoughts out there before I run off to a meeting.

HomerSimpson98 03-10-2015 10:25 AM

Very interesting that Narc was targeted. A quick perusal of his posts doesnt really implicate someone (IMO), but he was trying to get people to talk and communicate through his limited time. I was leaning towards this pointing to a veteran player, but upon more reflection, I can make the argument that a newb didn't like his ideas and wanted a more vocal person removed from the game.

All the late Raven play was interesting too.

path12 03-10-2015 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grover (Post 3008675)
I'm also wondering if font was merely a survival move or if there's something more to her change.


IIRC she was tied with GE with 10 minutes to go. Why would she not move her vote in that case?

Suicane75 03-10-2015 10:32 AM

Vote: EagleFan

I'm not a very good WW player, I've decided. I'm not real good at going through vote history and deciphering stuff, but based on stuff that's been posted and theories, I'm going to go with the guy who is a veteran and had a weird ass day 1 jumping pattern.

Of course I'll probably have to change this at some point to save myself, but my gut is telling me that this fella is no good. My gut is also full of cheetos though.

Suicane75 03-10-2015 10:32 AM

god dammit.

Vote: EagleFan

Chief Rum 03-10-2015 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomerSimpson98 (Post 3008727)
Very interesting that Narc was targeted. A quick perusal of his posts doesnt really implicate someone (IMO), but he was trying to get people to talk and communicate through his limited time. I was leaning towards this pointing to a veteran player, but upon more reflection, I can make the argument that a newb didn't like his ideas and wanted a more vocal person removed from the game.

All the late Raven play was interesting too.


Narcizo is, IMO, an underrated player who makes a strong impact in most games, even though his time for being on is different than ours. I suspect the wolves knew this and took him out before he could get going.

They also probably figured he wouldn't be BG'd.

path12 03-10-2015 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekimonk (Post 3008695)
Sorry, meant to post my reason for the Suicane vote (on the iPhone via Tapatalk).

Day 1 he/she flipped to the GE pile-on. Wasn't extremely late but right about the time it picked up steam.


One thing I want to try and get to today is to update EF's timeline with the standings at the point of each vote because I also thought Suicane was tied at that point.

I have no way of knowing whether Suicane or fontisian are good or not, but votes in order to protect oneself are not very suspicious to me and is why I'm looking elsewhere.

path12 03-10-2015 10:34 AM

Narc is a big loss. I took that kill to mean there is at least one vet on the wolves.

Chief Rum 03-10-2015 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 3008734)
Narc is a big loss. I took that kill to mean there is at least one vet on the wolves.


Ditto.

britrock88 03-10-2015 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 3008621)
(vote chart)


You rock! :D

britrock88 03-10-2015 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG (Post 3008609)
Any chance you'll have time to put up a flowchart of the day's voting?


...maybe tomorrow. :)

Chief Rum 03-10-2015 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 3008728)
IIRC she was tied with GE with 10 minutes to go. Why would she not move her vote in that case?


I thought about that myself and looked back. It appears to me that it was only when EF and GE switched around in the last 20 or so minutes that it became clear that it was down to her and GE. Raven still had some momentum and was right there. She had her vote on Raven.

She sensibly moved her vote to GE in the last minutes when things became more clear.

Or at least that's how I read it. I wasn't there, being at work.

britrock88 03-10-2015 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3008671)
Now that day 1 is over... What do we think about EFs play? Typical for him as a villager?

Also, need to take a look why brit didn't move his vote.


Timmae, here's the backstory...

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal (Post 3008353)
Vote Count:

2 - Suicane75 - Grover (96), Raven (108)
2 - Grover - timmae (88), Suicane75 (123)
2 - britrock88 - Narcizo (76), path12 (134)
2 - Raven - Chief Rum (101), fontisian (145)
1 - GoldenEagle - Zinto (80)
1 - saldana - JAG (81)
1 - Zinto - EagleFan (82)
1 - timmae - cheekimonk (112)
1 - JAG - britrock88 (128)


Quote:

Originally Posted by britrock88 (Post 3008354)
But guyyyyyyyys...

Didn't I mention that I'm the seer and that timmae's a wolf? :D

unvote JAG
vote timmae


The vote on you was to consolidate, turning 2 1-vote candidates into a single 2-vote candidate.

Quote:

Originally Posted by britrock88 (Post 3008449)
^ was post 100 since Jackal began D1. Hoping people will be around toward deadline so the game can truly get underway... :)

(I have curling, so I'll either go dark for the last few hours before deadline or hop on in the last hour.)


And I was AFK until lynch after this. (The posts are all close in time.)

Chief Rum 03-10-2015 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian (Post 3008518)
No, it really is. When I ask someone a question, I want an answer from that person.

I am not moron. I understand how self-preservation works. There are also a number of strange factors that I want to know if he considered, because it helps me read him. You butting in gives him an answer he might not have thought of and lets him know what answers people find believable. Don't do it. Clear?

Also, Chief and Zinto, GE said he would likely check in before deadline. You're both overstating his level of absence.


Looking back further, though, I see this. This seems to me that she should have had her vote on GE all along. Why so passionate and yet no vote? No scans possible yet, and GE was a villager anyway.

Chief Rum 03-10-2015 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian (Post 3008541)
Did you see the way Chief ran away from the Raven lynch once it started to gain momentum?


You're seeing boogiemen where they ain't. This is Raven's second game and he is an old friend of mine. There was no way I was ever going to stay on him this early in the game unless someone else more or less proved he was a wolf.


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