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RainMaker 08-17-2020 03:21 PM


miami_fan 08-17-2020 08:20 PM

Out of curiosity, how many of us have been tested and if you have how many times?

I had been tested three times prior the beginning of the month but I have been some volunteer work that requires that I get tested at least twice a week.

CU Tiger 08-17-2020 08:25 PM

I've been tested, a week ago today in fact only time

Thomkal 08-17-2020 08:28 PM

none here

Lathum 08-17-2020 08:50 PM

I did the antibody test which came back negative. We were in Disney in Feb and hoped we had been exposed.

PilotMan 08-17-2020 09:26 PM

Nice article in the Times today with good news about possible lower thresholds for herd immunity in certain pockets of the world.

Ksyrup 08-18-2020 06:45 AM

Tested once, early June, negative.

Butter 08-18-2020 07:21 AM

Was tested once prior to a May surgery. Negative.

Kodos 08-18-2020 07:42 AM

Tested twice. Negative.

Edward64 08-18-2020 08:35 AM

Haven't been tested. No symptoms in the family so far.

But this topic has made me think about doing it. Apparently I can setup an appt with local CVS for drive through testing.

Ben E Lou 08-18-2020 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 3296228)
UNC-Chapel Hill pivots to remote teaching after coronavirus spreads among students during first week of class
By Nick Anderson

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...1c4_story.html


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Y’know, if you wanted to say “college kids will stay in their college bubble, not get too sick, (and somehow not spread the virus to their vulnerable professors and other staff,) so this is ok” that’d be one thing.
But how does *anyone* think that putting thousands of 18-22-year-olds in close proximity to one another would result in anything but parties, hangouts, hookups, and significant spread of the virus??? It’s completely unreasonable to think in that situation that the students would practice social distancing, wear masks, etc.
And this isn’t any sort of “kids these days” rant. It is the nature of that age—ESPECIALLY when they know that’s it’s highly unlikely that they’ll personally be impacted significantly if they catch it. I wouldn’t have taken precautions. Boomers wouldn't have, Gen X wouldn't have, Millennials wouldn't have. Gen Z isn't.
If the expectation was “they’ll spread it and we’ll deal with it,” at least there would be internal logical consistency.
But I’m completely lost how anyone could have thought, as they apparently did, “let’s go through all the trouble bring the kids on campus--25% or more of whom are living away from home for the first time, and the vast majority of whom are from a state that has had them far more heavily restricted than any other neighboring state--and hope that somehow it magically doesn’t spread all over the place. If it does, even without a lot of symptoms, we’ll shut down.”


Seriously, what were they thinking??? Was it just a brazen money grab? What the heck?

albionmoonlight 08-18-2020 08:40 AM

Not tested. Haven't shown any symptoms and have been living pretty hermit-like since early Spring.

JPhillips 08-18-2020 08:44 AM

I don't know how things played out in NC, but in a number of states public colleges are under severe pressure from donors and politicians to return to normal. Private schools, especially smaller private schools, often literally need the money to survive.

But, yes, it's mostly based on magical thinking. An institution I know well has no testing requirements, no testing on campus, no notification system for positive tests, no requirement for professors to provide simultaneous on-line and F2F instruction for those out, no metrics for changing instruction/living plans, etc. The whole thing is built on the idea that maybe nothing will happen.

Clap louder and Tinkerbell won't die.

Ksyrup 08-18-2020 09:29 AM

I've heard about the UNC protocols from my co-worker with a kid there. They have protocols in place that basically make it impossible to enjoy college in any normal way. But it's the enforcement that's the issue, apparently. For on-campus students, they have them in 4-person pods and attempting to keep small groups to themselves. But you can't lock them in their rooms.

And of course, the frat/sorority houses are treated as their own pods, so on campus, they have restrictions but for those houses, 35 people are allowed to be in close contact without further segregation.

I think this scenario is going to play out across the US on campuses. I fully expect my daughter to either get it or have to quarantine a couple of times from being in contact with people who test positive, Friday night, a couple of her teammates were seen on someone else's instragram in the background of a party - hours after a meeting with the coach about being responsible and limiting interactions.

You'd hope they know better and would be responsible, but how can we expect 18-20 year olds to be more responsible than the adults who have screwed up a potential recovery for the past 3-4 months? We want college kids to sit in their dorms, but adults can rush to the bar without masks the minute they open?

spleen1015 08-18-2020 09:51 AM

I get your point, but we can make our children better. Control what we can control. Just because everyone else is doing it is not a good enough reason for me, never has been as a parent.

I feel like I am the minority when it comes to parenting.

Ksyrup 08-18-2020 10:25 AM

I certainly expect better from my kids. I'm just talking about the whole concept of sending kids to school and expecting them to act any better, collectively, than the general public.

Brian Swartz 08-18-2020 11:50 AM

I haven't been tested at all.

spleen1015 08-18-2020 12:21 PM

This pandemic is the worst thing that could happen to a country that doesn't like to follow rules. We're seeing it.

HomerSimpson98 08-18-2020 12:42 PM

I assume you were referring to the Wuhan water park party?


"The city hasn't reported any new cases since mid-May."

Lathum 08-18-2020 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015 (Post 3296337)
I get your point, but we can make our children better. Control what we can control. Just because everyone else is doing it is not a good enough reason for me, never has been as a parent.

I feel like I am the minority when it comes to parenting.


Most parents I feel are like this but you can't change how kids that age are wired. It is like any other stage of childhood. Their brains literally aren't developed to where they can think and act like we feel they should in that spot. Parenting skills have little to do with it.

RainMaker 08-18-2020 01:11 PM

No test here but I work from home and have been careful. Mask at the store and limiting contact with people. Even if this isn't deadly to someone like me, I absolutely hate being sick.

MIJB#19 08-18-2020 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015 (Post 3296375)
This pandemic is the worst thing that could happen to a country that doesn't like to follow rules. We're seeing it.

That doesn't apply to just one country, it applies to many disobedient societies.

sterlingice 08-18-2020 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3296321)
Y’know, if you wanted to say “college kids will stay in their college bubble, not get too sick, (and somehow not spread the virus to their vulnerable professors and other staff,) so this is ok” that’d be one thing.

But how does *anyone* think that putting thousands of 18-22-year-olds in close proximity to one another would result in anything but parties, hangouts, hookups, and significant spread of the virus??? It’s completely unreasonable to think in that situation that the students would practice social distancing, wear masks, etc.

And this isn’t any sort of “kids these days” rant.
It is the nature of that age—ESPECIALLY when they know that’s it’s highly unlikely that they’ll personally be impacted significantly if they catch it. I wouldn’t have taken precautions. Boomers wouldn't have, Gen X wouldn't have, Millennials wouldn't have. Gen Z isn't.

If the expectation was “they’ll spread it and we’ll deal with it,” at least there would be internal logical consistency.

But I’m completely lost how anyone could have thought, as they apparently did, “let’s go through all the trouble bring the kids on campus--25% or more of whom are living away from home for the first time, and the vast majority of whom are from a state that has had them far more heavily restricted than any other neighboring state--and hope that somehow it magically doesn’t spread all over the place. If it does, even without a lot of symptoms, we’ll shut down.”

Seriously, what were they thinking??? Was it just a brazen money grab? What the heck?


How can it be a "kids these days" rant? We can't fucking get adults to do it and we're expecting kids to have more "personal responsibility" bullshit than their parents and grandparents?

And the adults who are doing the hand wringing and pearl clutching about how "kids these days" aren't responsible is lunacy when they can't be bothered to stay away from an Olive Garden for 6 months or wear a goddamn mask.

SI

spleen1015 08-19-2020 04:08 PM

Father in law has tested positive.

He's had a fever, lots of coughing and chest congestion since Saturday afternoon. My mother in law is freaking out. Her results came back negative.

78 years old. Hits the Legion every day. Hits the casino twice a month. He is going to lose his mind having to be cooped up, being sick during this time of the year.

Thomkal 08-19-2020 04:30 PM

Sorry to hear that Spleen. :(

JPhillips 08-19-2020 04:52 PM

Wish him the best.

We're still waiting on a test for my Mom. They went from weekly testing at her facility to bi-weekly.

ISiddiqui 08-19-2020 11:43 PM

Well this isn't good

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...heir-lockdowns

Quote:

In the EU, France, Spain and Germany are far from alone in seeing a late-summer rebound in cases: More than a dozen member nations have been seeing week-over-week gains, according to the*European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control.

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Edward64 08-20-2020 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015 (Post 3296672)
Father in law has tested positive.

He's had a fever, lots of coughing and chest congestion since Saturday afternoon. My mother in law is freaking out. Her results came back negative.

78 years old. Hits the Legion every day. Hits the casino twice a month. He is going to lose his mind having to be cooped up, being sick during this time of the year.


Best wishes to him and MIL.

Kodos 08-20-2020 11:31 AM

Good news for those worried about immunity to Covid-19 not lasting very long.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/o...-immunity.html

Quote:

Within the last couple of months, several scientific studies have come out — some peer-reviewed, others not — indicating that the antibody response of people infected with SARS-CoV-2 dropped significantly within two months. The news has sparked fears that the very immunity of patients with Covid-19 may be waning fast — dampening hopes for the development of an effective and durable vaccine.

But these concerns are confused and mistaken.

Both our bodies’ natural immunity and immunity acquired through vaccination serve the same function, which is to inhibit a virus and prevent it from causing a disease. But they don’t always work quite the same way.

And so a finding that naturally occurring antibodies in some Covid-19 patients are fading doesn’t actually mean very much for the likely efficacy of vaccines under development. Science, in this case, can be more effective than nature.

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So do not be alarmed by reports about Covid-19 patients’ dropping antibody counts; those are irrelevant to the prospects of finding a viable vaccine.

Remember instead that more than 165 vaccine candidates already are in the pipeline, some showing promising early trial results.



cartman 08-20-2020 12:36 PM

5 test positive for coronavirus after attending youth event in Brownwood

Quote:

The event, Unmasked Camp 2020, was held at Heartland Church Aug. 14-16.

PilotMan 08-20-2020 12:42 PM

It was literally called Unmasked Camp 2020?

....it was literally called Unmasked Camp 2020!

What did you think was going to happen?!

Ksyrup 08-20-2020 12:44 PM

KHSAA (KY high school athletic assoc) voted to move forward with fall sports, but the governor has to approve. Given that he's recommended schools stay online until at least September 28th, I'll be surprised if he approves. Pending approval, practices can begin on Monday and fall competition can start on September 7th. Districts are free to opt out even if approved.

Ben E Lou 08-20-2020 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PilotMan (Post 3296872)
Unmasked Camp 2020

What in the name of liability insurance IS this?

Ben E Lou 08-20-2020 12:53 PM

Dola...speaking of liability, they still have posts up about it on their FB page...




https://www.facebook.com/search/top/...%20camp%202020

cartman 08-20-2020 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PilotMan (Post 3296872)
It was literally called Unmasked Camp 2020?

....it was literally called Unmasked Camp 2020!

What did you think was going to happen?!


I think they thought they were going to own the libs.

Ben E Lou 08-20-2020 12:59 PM


Thomkal 08-20-2020 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman (Post 3296878)
I think they thought they were going to own the libs.


I'm sure they were going to pray it all away

stevew 08-20-2020 01:27 PM

Don’t live in fear guys.

Ksyrup 08-20-2020 01:27 PM


albionmoonlight 08-20-2020 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3296873)
KHSAA (KY high school athletic assoc) voted to move forward with fall sports, but the governor has to approve.


This potato seems really hot! Better pass it on to someone else!

Ksyrup 08-20-2020 01:36 PM

Exactly. He's already got the bullseye on his back as a Dem governor trying to do the responsible thing in a red state.

JPhillips 08-20-2020 01:46 PM

Blessed are the unmasked,

For they shall own the libs.

cuervo72 08-20-2020 01:48 PM

And if they die, they go to Heaven. Win/win.

Lathum 08-20-2020 01:52 PM

It amazes me there are a large number of Americans who don’t understand why or refuse to believe we are a global embarrassment

thesloppy 08-20-2020 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3296877)
Dola...speaking of liability, they still have posts up about it on their FB page...




COME SEE A TASTE!

JPhillips 08-20-2020 02:12 PM

Soaking in.

Atocep 08-20-2020 03:00 PM

Coworker tested positive for Covid today. So I was tested and sent home to quarantine for 2 weeks. I'm supposed to get test results back in 24-72 hours.

Kodos 08-20-2020 03:17 PM

Ugh. Hope your test comes back negative.

Edward64 08-20-2020 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3296914)
Coworker tested positive for Covid today. So I was tested and sent home to quarantine for 2 weeks. I'm supposed to get test results back in 24-72 hours.


Was it the stick a swab up-up-up your nose? How did it feel because I'm thinking about going to CVS to get a test soon.

Atocep 08-20-2020 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3296918)
Was it the stick a swab up-up-up your nose? How did it feel because I'm thinking about going to CVS to get a test soon.


I got the brain probe and it sucked. It's not painful, but not something I'd voluntarily do again. Results in 24-72 hours.

My wife went to get a quick test done and is at the clinic now.


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