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jeff061 02-04-2011 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 2419871)
Very wrong about me, and now making me wonder about you.



Well christ man, I've been pointing the cunning finger at you and Hoops for days. This isn't something new :).

But at this point I'd about bet money on that lineup.

EagleFan 02-04-2011 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff061 (Post 2419873)
Well christ man, I've been pointing the cunning finger at you and Hoops for days. This isn't something new :).

But at this point I'd about bet money on that lineup.


I'll bet the house against your lineup.

I would say hoops is the cunning at this point, but not willing to bet on that one yet.

jeff061 02-04-2011 05:34 PM

I am going to go as far as saying they specifically picked that role for J2D so they could make a reason to vote him.

Honestly, I am aware of why Chief wants to vote me and I was aware that my logic was dooming me. My logic was solid as is Chief's.

But at this point I am VERY certain Saldana is the right call for tonight.

J2D: Brutal
Eagle: Cunning
Saldana: Other type of wolfI'd be amazed if this doesn't pan out.

EagleFan 02-04-2011 05:41 PM

Whatever happens it's been fun. Might as well go with what I have been trying. You guys can take it from there. If you are going to lynch me you might as well do it now so we can lose the game sooner instead of later.


vote saldana

PackerFanatic 02-04-2011 05:45 PM

UNVOTE J23
VOTE SALDANA

Chief Rum 02-04-2011 05:57 PM

Right, Darth should be protected. Okay, I am less concerned about leaving jeff/Darth untested through tonight, so long as PF is paying attention (and it looks like he is; he just posted).

I am also leaning toward jeff talling the truth. I'll be honest, I would be shocked if jeff is a wolf. My read on him all game has been good, and although I'm no hoops, I'm not usually so off either.

Why does that matter? Consider the roles then for the village (calling BS on J23 at the moment): seer, BG, duke with BG inheritance powers and lovers (at least). We had a fake seer and a cultist, which I'll call a draw. Point is, though, that's a lot roled villagers with some power. As such, I just can't see the wolves having just two, which had been my thinking from my night time post. They must have three wolves, and for sure, one of the three I already scanned is a cunning wolf, because there aren't enough uncleareds, otherwise.

Going with that, even though my vibe leans more toward villager now, I have to agree that saldana is definite possibility as a wolf.

He does seem to be the forgotten man here, and J23 does seem to be drawing attention away and toward himself.

UNVOTE JEFF61
VOTE SALDANA

Chief Rum 02-04-2011 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff061 (Post 2419876)
I am going to go as far as saying they specifically picked that role for J2D so they could make a reason to vote him.

Honestly, I am aware of why Chief wants to vote me and I was aware that my logic was dooming me. My logic was solid as is Chief's.

But at this point I am VERY certain Saldana is the right call for tonight.

J2D: Brutal
Eagle: Cunning
Saldana: Other type of wolfI'd be amazed if this doesn't pan out.


I agree with your lineup here, jeff, except I don't know about Eagle as the cunning yet. I would pick him right now with a gun to my head, but if we don't get him tonight, I think we should keep an open mind to hoops or Danny (less likely, IMO) being the cunning.

jeff061 02-04-2011 06:04 PM

Yeah one day at a time...though Eagle's push away from Saldana and toward J2D today is kind of my linchpin when it comes to identifying the brutal though.

Danny 02-04-2011 06:05 PM

I'm home now, you guys made a lot of posts for me to catch up on.

Chief Rum 02-04-2011 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff061 (Post 2419890)
Yeah one day at a time...though Eagle's push away from Saldana and toward J2D today is kind of my linchpin when it comes to identifying the brutal though.


I can definitely see it. His early behavior suggests the possibility, too.

BTW, it's J23, not J2D. ;)

Danny 02-04-2011 06:26 PM

Looks pretty clear we are lynching Saldana. I agree with this move. I've had a good read on Jeff all game and I find it more likely the lovers are in the game than the 2nd silk spectre (or EF's role for that matter). I also got some desperation from reading J23's posts today. Though maybe that intentional because he is the brutal?

The only other possible move would be to follow what Chief said and lynch Jeff making sure the wolves don't get a double kill. Lynching anyone else would be a terrible play. That said, I think it's more likely we find a wolf with Saldana

Danny 02-04-2011 06:37 PM

J2D? Sounds like a star wars robot

jeff061 02-04-2011 06:40 PM

I swear every time I type out his name my brain says J2D for some reason, then I check it and make the correction. Guess I forgot that time.

Danny 02-04-2011 07:09 PM

I'm going to work out now. I'll check in after and before I leave for bowling to make sure nothing eventful has happened.

saldana 02-04-2011 07:09 PM

again, not sure exactly what i have done to make anyone think i am a wolf...i have done nothing but provide analysis that no one has been able to refute, and get "saved" by a known villager.

is my voting record great, no, but neither are alot of other people that are "cleared"

im a vanilla villager, plain and simple.

J23 02-04-2011 07:53 PM

Probably academic at this point, but moving off Darth in case the lovers reveal is legit.

unvote Darth
vote Saldana

hoopsguy 02-04-2011 08:08 PM

I'll go ahead and put a vote on Saldana as well, with the expectation that PF may end up doing something different with the vote later.

VOTE SALDANA

Danny 02-04-2011 08:32 PM

About to get ready to leave. Fingers crossed*

Darth Vilus 02-04-2011 08:32 PM

SORRY!!! I was supposed to be home two hours ago but my asshole bosses made me stay. So I've got to catch up real quick

Danny 02-04-2011 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth Vilus (Post 2419945)
SORRY!!! I was supposed to be home two hours ago but my asshole bosses made me stay. So I've got to catch up real quick


Better be real quick, we got business to take care of tonight. Dad has to work late so we are on our own. Got to bring our A game.

Darth Vilus 02-04-2011 08:37 PM

Aww crap really? Oh well, we'll have to both shoot 700 to make sure.

Vote Saldana

hoopsguy 02-04-2011 08:38 PM

DV, Jeff shared some info about you - care to confirm/deny?

Darth Vilus 02-04-2011 08:40 PM

Yes, I am indeed the hot chick. Call me Laurie guys :-)

Darth Vilus 02-04-2011 08:41 PM

Silk Spectree II

Darth Vilus 02-04-2011 08:42 PM

*Spectre

Darth Vilus 02-04-2011 08:43 PM

heading out now, I'll catch you guys when i get back. Good luck

saldana 02-04-2011 08:45 PM

is the whole damn village on me?

hoopsguy 02-04-2011 08:52 PM

Kind of appears that way, but only DV and I are around for discussion at this hour on Friday night.

Chief Rum 02-04-2011 08:57 PM

well, I just checked in. So i am here. I'm still at work. Sucks.

The Jackal 02-04-2011 09:31 PM

So Saldana by a landslide it looks like?

saldana 02-04-2011 09:33 PM

yup

The Jackal 02-04-2011 09:50 PM

Another day sees a hunk of reveals, and no one is truly sure who they can believe. At the end of the day, you decide upon a candidate who has just barely escaped the lynch before.

Saldana approaches the guillotine, coughing and sputtering. He smiles wickedly as he is set into the device, rasping out some final words as his head is removed,

"Die, Minutemen! Curse you all!"

saldana was Moloch the Mystic!

The Jackal 02-04-2011 09:51 PM

Enjoy your weekend folks, hope you are enjoying the game, I sure am. Night actions due Monday 930 am est.

Chief Rum 02-04-2011 09:53 PM

Awesome! Good call, jeff61!

PackerFanatic 02-04-2011 10:27 PM

Huzzah! Glad we got one :)

EagleFan 02-04-2011 11:20 PM

If you would have listened to me a couple days ago... :)

EagleFan 02-04-2011 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff061 (Post 2419890)
Yeah one day at a time...though Eagle's push away from Saldana and toward J2D today is kind of my linchpin when it comes to identifying the brutal though.


Where exactly did I push away from saldana? I have been saying him for days now.

Danny 02-05-2011 02:51 AM

Good news with the lynch. Bad news is Darth and I bowled poorly and we lost 3 of 4 games.

Darth Vilus 02-05-2011 03:21 AM

Yup yup, it wasn't in the cards for us tonight

jeff061 02-05-2011 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 2419994)
Where exactly did I push away from saldana? I have been saying him for days now.


The second half of yesterday. You weren't pushing away to save Saldana, that's not my point. You were pushing away to lynch J23 the brutal. Anyways, plenty of time to discuss.

J23=Brutal. As sure of that as I was Saldana. And still pretty sure Eagle's cunning.

jeff061 02-05-2011 08:48 AM

And Lathum = Least valuable player for this game :D.

EagleFan 02-05-2011 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff061 (Post 2420046)
The second half of yesterday. You weren't pushing away to save Saldana, that's not my point. You were pushing away to lynch J23 the brutal. Anyways, plenty of time to discuss.

J23=Brutal. As sure of that as I was Saldana. And still pretty sure Eagle's cunning.


Made no push on j23 yesterday. All I did was present possibilities. We lose if we go by your list and the wolves win. There is one scenario where I can guarantee a victory for us but first two things need to happen. I am not going to say what they are at this time, however, as it does us no good to tip our hand during this time.

hoopsguy 02-05-2011 11:07 AM

All of the analysis over the weekend doesn't really help too much. The wolves are going to have to make some interesting decisions and that will likely provide us with some clarity for the next day phase.

And I'm a guy that LOVES talking about this stuff, but at this point I don't see the point in it. We run the risk of providing the wolves with greater clarity for their night actions by excess discussion today. I just hope that everyone is ready for a good day of discussion on Monday.

Lathum 02-05-2011 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff061 (Post 2420047)
And Lathum = Least valuable player for this game :D.


yeah, I messed that up.

Chief Rum 02-05-2011 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 2420105)
All of the analysis over the weekend doesn't really help too much. The wolves are going to have to make some interesting decisions and that will likely provide us with some clarity for the next day phase.

And I'm a guy that LOVES talking about this stuff, but at this point I don't see the point in it. We run the risk of providing the wolves with greater clarity for their night actions by excess discussion today. I just hope that everyone is ready for a good day of discussion on Monday.


Exactly. This is one of the reasons I don't like to have night phases last a whole weekend (of course, I usually run one deadline games anyway, but you get the point...).

Danny 02-06-2011 03:57 PM

Vote Steelers

Go Packers!

EagleFan 02-06-2011 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2420482)
Vote Steelers

Go Packers!


+1

Darth Vilus 02-07-2011 12:25 AM

Prince Akeem: Sir, did you happen to catch the professional football contest on television last night?
Cleo McDowell: No, I didn't.
Prince Akeem: Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory.
Cleo McDowell: Son.
Prince Akeem: Yes?
Cleo McDowell: If you want to keep working here, stay off the drugs.
Prince Akeem: Yes

The Jackal 02-07-2011 08:34 AM

You wake up and once more find all of your numbers intact. Divine providence? Luck? Or something sinister?

Day five begins!

jeff061 02-07-2011 08:41 AM

Either smart bodyguard play or someone outsmarted themselves.


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