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PackerFanatic 02-01-2011 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 2418168)
Honestly, none of the three leading candidates feels uber-wolfy to me at the moment.


Out of curiosity, is it possible to get an uber-wolfy vibe this early either way? Obviously we want to go after wolves, but we don't know anyone from anyone else at this point in the game.

DaddyTorgo 02-01-2011 08:40 PM

Flipped a virtual Silver Siliqua from Valentinian's reign as Roman Emperor.

VOTE AUTUMN

Autumn 02-01-2011 08:43 PM

Coin flips, that's the way to go.

DaddyTorgo 02-01-2011 08:49 PM

On Day 1, with neither of you having done anything particularly notable...it's as good as any other.

The Jackal 02-01-2011 08:50 PM

Autumn - 5 - (PF 82, CR 95, ntn 100, DV 111, DT 154)
EF - 4- (hoops 92, saldana 97, Lathum 104, Danny 112)
Danny - 3 - (Autumn 117, Thomkal 123, EF 126)
hoopsguy - 1 - (jeff 89)

Autumn 02-01-2011 08:51 PM

Well I think it's pretty clear we have two villagers on the block. Nobody's scrambling to move to Danny or anybody else. I can't really do anything about the vote, EF and I are both elsewhere so we cancel out. I'd urge people to try a third candidate, but only someone who's around.

EagleFan 02-01-2011 08:59 PM

unvote Danny

vote Autumn

EagleFan 02-01-2011 08:59 PM

Sorry Autumn, self preservation in case there is any funny business.

Autumn 02-01-2011 09:00 PM

Good idea, I was surprised you weren't doing that. I'm not going to risk the tie anyway. Better to lose a vanilla villager than risk whatever would have happened.

The Jackal 02-01-2011 09:01 PM

DEADLINE

The Jackal 02-01-2011 09:01 PM

Autumn - 6 - (PF 82, CR 95, ntn 100, DV 111, DT 154, EF 157)
EF - 4- (hoops 92, saldana 97, Lathum 104, Danny 112)
Danny - 2 - (Autumn 117, Thomkal 123)
hoopsguy - 1 - (jeff 89)

The Jackal 02-01-2011 09:04 PM

After a day of accusations and changed minds, the group settles upon Autumn as one of the traitors. The mood is tense and no one seems to be particularly sure of their decision.

In the center of the room where you are all being held, a guillotine has appeared. Autumn is marched up to it, looking solemn. He turns away from you with scorned eyes, and prepares to meet his fate.

Autumn was a vanilla villager!

The Jackal 02-01-2011 09:05 PM

Night Actions due by 930 AM EST.

Autumn 02-01-2011 09:06 PM

You guys suck. Also, Jackal sucks for not giving me a sweet role.

Just kidding, somebody had to go and I guess it's my turn, I've had some good runs of late. Good luck Watchmen!

The Jackal 02-01-2011 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2418249)
You guys suck. Also, Jackal sucks for not giving me a sweet role.

Just kidding, somebody had to go and I guess it's my turn, I've had some good runs of late. Good luck Watchmen!


Blame random.org :)

hoopsguy 02-01-2011 09:15 PM

So much for the best laid plans .... high winds = nervous kid falling asleep = one hoopsguy late for deadline.

I'm surprised there was no conversation about the tie and what the unknown mechanism might be.

Darth Vilus 02-01-2011 09:26 PM

coulda been worse, so for a day one i'm ok with this outcome

Autumn 02-01-2011 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth Vilus (Post 2418259)
coulda been worse, so for a day one i'm ok with this outcome


*haunts Darth Vilus*

Lathum 02-01-2011 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 2418128)

I am seeing some odd Lathum/Danny connection. He uses the pregame comment as justification (references it) but then seems to jump off when Danny got other action and jumped on the person that started that action.

.


I voted you because at the time I was the only vote on Danny and the general consensus was to narrow it down to 3 players.

ntndeacon 02-01-2011 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2418102)
This may just be poor reading on my or NTN's part, but I believe we were 2-2-2-2-1-1 at this point with me, Danny, Hoops and EF all having two votes. So either NTN forgot about Danny or ...


I see that Autumn was the day one lottery "winner" but he made a valid point. so I might as well address it. I started by using the list Jackal made on that page (2) EF voted for then unvoted for Danny. So iwas under the assumption that Danny had only 1 vote when I made my comment and vote.

Darth Vilus 02-01-2011 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2418261)
*haunts Darth Vilus*


a disembodied spirit is nothing compared to that of the Dark Lord of the Sith

Schmidty 02-01-2011 10:41 PM

Sorry I missed out on this one. I just noticed the PM. I need to put it on popup. Have fun guys!!

The Jackal 02-02-2011 08:41 AM

You gather round, ready to start a new day of discussion and accusations. But someone is missing, and it is Thomkal.

You approach his sleeping chambers and peel back the curtain. Laying on the floor is the head of Rorschach, his mask left intact with his head, but body missing.

But wait.. upon closer examination, there is something.. not quite right about the mask. Lifting it off his face, you realize this is not Rorschach at all, but Dr. Malcolm Long.

Thomkal was Dr. Malcolm Long!

You set about ready to figure out who was behind the attacks. You may not have lost a Minuteman, but he was on the side of good nonetheless, even if he'd gone a bit crazy.

jeff061 02-02-2011 08:43 AM

Thank you :D.

J23 02-02-2011 08:49 AM

Finally checking in. Huge apologies for not being around yesterday. I'm getting caught up atm.

PackerFanatic 02-02-2011 08:50 AM

I suppose if we had to lose a roled villager, that is the one we want to go (sorry Thomkal!)

jeff061 02-02-2011 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic (Post 2418405)
I suppose if we had to lose a roled villager, that is the one we want to go (sorry Thomkal!)


Yeah. I haven't played a game with a fee seer(have their been others?). I'd imagine it's hugely disruptive.

jeff061 02-02-2011 08:53 AM

^
Fake Seer. Still injecting coffee this morning.

saldana 02-02-2011 08:57 AM

i agree, if we had to lose someone, the fake seer is always a good one to go...i have always found them to be more confusing than anything.

Danny 02-02-2011 08:59 AM

Running late this morning, not a bad first day though.

Lathum 02-02-2011 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana (Post 2418414)
i agree, if we had to lose someone, the fake seer is always a good one to go...i have always found them to be more confusing than anything.


yeah, imo a good outcome

Thomkal 02-02-2011 09:23 AM

Grrrr I guess my strategy didn't work out so well. :( But thankfully I was the fake seer so the damage was not too much. So :Pbbt! to the wolves!

Good luck all.

Chief Rum 02-02-2011 10:58 AM

Re: Thomkal, what's been said, agreed. Hate to lose a villager, but at least he is the unwittingly least helpful.

I am disappointed Autumn was a villager, as I introduced him to the mix. I would understand getting flack for that. I had no real suspicion of Autumn over anyone else, and his choice by me was more a victim of circumstance, where I felt a three way race in the lone run would provide us with more information about yesterday's vote. It would have been nice for Autumn to have been a wolf, but I knew the odds were against it.

Our decision today would appear to be to focus on some of the other top targets from yesterday's vote (Danny, Eaglefan, hoopsguy) or to go in a whole new direction.

If we go with the former, I would lean toward Danny and Eaglefan. hoopsguy isn't giving me too much of a wolf vibe.

But I don't know that Danny or EF are any more wolves than the others.

saldana 02-02-2011 11:02 AM

chief, not trying to point a finger at all, but when does hoops actually give off a wolf vibe.

jeff061 02-02-2011 11:17 AM

All I noticed from hoops was a hard deflection followed by relative silence when he got a second vote cast on him. Successfully taking himself out of the running and any discussion.

But wanting to survive a crapshoot day 1 vote is not limited to wolves.

Chief Rum 02-02-2011 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana (Post 2418506)
chief, not trying to point a finger at all, but when does hoops actually give off a wolf vibe.


Heh... I find my reads on him are mixed. You're right, though, that I rarely feel that "HE"S A WOLF" feeling on him. He does well deflecting that.

J23 02-02-2011 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 2418502)
Our decision today would appear to be to focus on some of the other top targets from yesterday's vote (Danny, Eaglefan, hoopsguy) or to go in a whole new direction.

If we go with the former, I would lean toward Danny and Eaglefan. hoopsguy isn't giving me too much of a wolf vibe.

But I don't know that Danny or EF are any more wolves than the others.


From looking at the votes yesterday, it didn't seem that there was a big push to lynch Autumn over the other vote-getters. That makes me think that maybe we were barking up the wrong tree.

I also tried to look at Thomkal's posts to see if there was any reason he was targetted but I didn't really see any hidden messages (though I have been pretty oblivious to these things in the past). I'm guessing that it was just a random hit looking for the seer (and luckily finding the fake one instead of the real one).

Lathum 02-02-2011 12:00 PM

Lathums been really quiet

Lathum 02-02-2011 02:16 PM

WTF guys, pretty quiet

jeff061 02-02-2011 02:18 PM

Yeah, this is not solving my work boredom. Thanksfully working from home today. I'm feeling to green to go all half cocked and I don't have any insight on the personality of players.

Lathum 02-02-2011 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal (Post 2418243)
Autumn - 6 - (PF 82, CR 95, ntn 100, DV 111, DT 154, EF 157)
EF - 4- (hoops 92, saldana 97, Lathum 104, Danny 112)
Danny - 2 - (Autumn 117, Thomkal 123)
hoopsguy - 1 - (jeff 89)


OK, so here is the vote from yeasterday. Interesting that we know both Danny voters were villagers.

What that makes me wonder is would presumably 3 wolves split their votes between 2 candidates, one a known villager, or did they spread out more. If they did that makes Jeff a good candidate for a vote.

I think EF is also a good candidate, may give up some insight to the people who voted for him.

Jeff has been away a while, so for now

Vote EF

jeff061 02-02-2011 02:31 PM

Little misleading to look at the final. At the time when I voted there were, I believe 6 people with a single. Didn't want a 7th so put it on Hoops for no particular reason. Everyone switched around afterwards.

I was at the deadline prepared to switch to make sure there was no tie, but otherwise I didn't want to jump around. Which used to be frowned upon later on :D. However it's not lost on me that I stick out a little because I didn't switch like everyone else.

PackerFanatic 02-02-2011 02:36 PM

Something about CR is rubbing me wrong, so I am going to run with it, see what pans out.

VOTE CHIEF RUM

Darth Vilus 02-02-2011 02:42 PM

Im running a little late and have to head out to work right now. Sorry but I won't be back before deadline, my job sucks.

Vote ntndeacon

I think there's a wolf somewhere in the Autumn voters, just not sure who. Until i have time to go back and look through the posts I'm going with ntn

EagleFan 02-02-2011 03:10 PM

vote saldana

Though I am still leaning towards Danny/Lathum but want to stir things up a little today with adding a new name to the mix. I would assume that there is at least one wolf on me.

Chief Rum 02-02-2011 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic (Post 2418609)
Something about CR is rubbing me wrong, so I am going to run with it, see what pans out.

VOTE CHIEF RUM


Well, at least I can argue against that, lol.

Chief Rum 02-02-2011 03:29 PM

I know EF raised some questions with his vote switches, but it's just too bold. He's definitely a question mark, but right now, I find it hard to believe he's a wolf and chooses to do his vote switches. It would be a bold play for a wolf to draw that much attention to himself. He could very well be Ozymandias, the cunning (and maybe the brutal, too), but I need more evidence right now to believe that's the game he's playing.

I think it's an obvious truth that there must be wolves in the Autumn voters, and less obvious, but likely at least one in the EF voters, too. Both DV and EF have merit to what they're saying with their votes.

But just like I'm not ready to vote EF, I'm certainly not ready to follow his lead on a vote, so I am not going with saldana.

DV's choice struck me, because it reminded me of a wolf vibe I got yesterday, when I read ntn's response to my Autumn vote (post #100).


Quote:

Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 2418057)
Looks like we are back to 3 with 2 votes each. I kinda like your argument CR. So I will end up on one of the 3... The back and forth this early makes me think of grasping at straws..so at least for day one that is enough reason to steer clear of the EF Hoops debate... Therefore I am left with only one option...

Vote Autumn


His post reminded me of two things. One, that it's the kind of vote a wolf might make, latching onto another's theory to sorta "hide" himself, follow the train as it were. And two, it reminded me of myself when I am a villager who is busy IRL and hasn't been able to read every post beyond skimming.

So ntn could be a wolf or a villager, lol. Yeah, that helps.

In any case, the first possibility is enough to get my vote for now.

VOTE NTNDEACON

jeff061 02-02-2011 03:42 PM

So we have

NTNDeacon - 2
Chief - 1
EagleFan - 1
Saldana 1

I agree with Chief on Eagle and want to start actually creating some candidates. Don't want to pile on or spread everyone out...again. I'm looking at Chief and Saldana. Chief has posting some strategy, which at the very least can be looked back at later on.

For now:
VOTE SALDANA

jeff061 02-02-2011 03:43 PM

Reposted without cruddy formatting, assuming edits are frowned upon?
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So we have

NTNDeacon - 2
Chief - 1
EagleFan - 1
Saldana 1

I agree with Chief on Eagle and want to start actually creating some candidates. Don't want to pile on or spread everyone out...again. I'm looking at Chief and Saldana. Chief has posting some strategy, which at the very least can be looked back at later on.

For now:
VOTE SALDANA

hoopsguy 02-02-2011 03:45 PM

Well, I had hoped to be able to participate a lot more today but my kid's daycare called me at 6AM to say they were closed. So I've been locked in with kid duty and that is not ideal for WW play.


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