Yeah I am going to unvote him, likely go eagle. I wish there was someone else.

Good luck village.

Do we have enough around to move it off EF if that's the consensus? DT has a vote on him from DV currently if that would sway the vote enough.

As you'll find out soon, I am Nelson Gardner.

Guess that is why something seemed off about CR...

UNVOTE EAGLEFAN
VOTE SALDANA

I wasn't sold on CR. Seer crossed my mind for him, but not nearly enough to bail.

I wish we had more participation. I really only voted CR to add an alternative to a bandwagon forming on Eagle and I felt he would generate more discussion than the alternatives at the time simply because he's engaged.

anyone have a count

not sure if i buy the reveal by eagle, but we can fight about that tomorrow

though I like my sal vote better...

that was a fun 5 minutes...i love deadlines

Jackal is going to hate us tonight with these votes to figure out.

i guess if we wanted to be nice, we could figure it out for him

not it.

I forgot to explain my slight trust vote.

When Sal and ntn are tied late yesterday at 3-3, hoops voted Sal to put him ahead. The next vote was DT, also on Sal moving him to 5-3. that's an unlikely wolf move by DT with minutes to deadline if Sal is a wolf. So if Sal is a wolf, hoops is not the cunning and DT almost certainly a villager. Jeff61 had a similarly good day 2 vote, putting up Sal above a bunch of candidates.

Sorry EF I was pretty sure you were a villager, but if Sal is a wolf I couldn't go right at him like that without tipping him off. :(

If I got it straight...

DaddyTorgo 5 - Darth Vilus (306), jeff061 (355), J23 (360), saldana (363), EagleFan (364)
EagleFan 4 - PackerFanatic (309), hoopsguy (313), Chief Rum (324), DaddyTorgo (345)
Chief Rum 1 - Danny (326)
saldana 1 - PackerFanatic (358)

i have:

DT - 5 - Darth, jeff, j23, Sal, EF
EF - 3 - Hoops, CR, DT
Sal -1 - packer
Chief - 1 - Danny

EF...you have packer twice...he ended on me

Wow, that many switched off Sal?

EF, you have PF twice.

EF, you are showing an amazing ability to avoid the lynch so far this game. I'll feel much, much better about that trend if DT is a wolf.

Pretty big if on Sal being a wolf though.

If DT is a villager it points a bigger crosshair on EF, this was a lot of last second movement to clear him. Far more than Saldana if I recall.

My thoughts exactly.

i gotta install my new router, be offline for a few, hopefully jackal gets back soon

I don't have a feel for DT so I would not be surprised either way to be honest.

If I was a wolf I can't see there being that much movement to save me. They would just sever ties and move on I would think, why bother risking standing out.

True. I think I've only played a single game as a wolf that I recall.

whats the superbowl?

This is not going well. Is this a saldana game? Jackal wants to make a run at your record. :)

We need to run off three straight or it is game over.

(Villagers have won 5 of the 6 games that I've run, though the two Labyrinth's weren't exactly normal victory conditions)

Initial thoughts for tomorrow, assuming CR's seer admission plays out and he's not screwing with us.

EF, I'd think there would be at least 1 Wolf in there voting for him. Disagreements?

From that group we have
Hoops: Cleared by seer
CR: Should be seer(pending night)
DT: Dead villager

It's so easy to blame hoops for this shit, cause he's hoops. But we should consider the possibility that he's cunning.

Further more, a longer stretch of an idea I've been toying with since yesterday. Possibly Eagle and Hoops both being wolves and trying to play both sides of the fence somewhat. One's death paints the other in a better light.

Just tossing ideas out there. I'm sure there will be looks at people who piled onto DT as well.

And while it's to late for "vibes". But since voting for J23 I've been getting a "wolf or seer" vibe from him.

The streak has to start somewhere... :)

The thing is that I haven't been playing the other side against hoops. Since my day one vote on him I have said that I see him leaning towards the good side basd on his vote against me.

Yeah, just a perception I had for whatever reason. That if one of you died the other would look good for it.

I feel more strongly about Hoops right now because I really do think at least 1 would stay back on you, no matter your guilt. But we have another 24 hours. I'm sure other theories will spring up.

All signs point to saldana at this point, in my eyes at least.

If I had to guess I would say J23 as well.

If there is a 3rd, not sure yet (I'll be positive once it's announced... :) )

PF maybe?

Oh, and Lathum has been awfully quiet today... ;)

Sorry, probably talking too much. Going to hop on XBL for a while, good night all.

I would really love to be cunning wolf one of these times in a game with a traditional seer role. But that, much like the traditional duke role, continues to evade me.

Anyway, I don't put a ton of stock in EF's reveal. The wolves know what roles are in the game and which are not. Therefore, EF won't be countered tomorrow but that proves very little.

I'm hoping new information emerges tomorrow, but I'm not hopeful at this point. This has been a very bad 24 hours for us, would only have been worse if DT was a roled villager.

Wow - wtf!?!?!?

How'd I get lynched with like 5 minutes to go till deadline.

Wow.