FOF8 Game Logs--Oh My!
 

Pulling this out from the main thread as it deserves its own shout-out as a likely game-changer when it comes to evaluating players' performances.

The logs contain this information on every play, which tells us who effed up to allow the winning TD in this case:

1-10-WAS12 (4Q: 01:03) Harrison Iacuessa pass completed to WR Chris Hillhouse for 12 yards and a TOUCHDOWN! Hillhouse gained 2 yards after the catch. The quarterback threw away from the double coverage. Washington 13, Dallas 13

OFFENSE	113t Personnel, Weak formation, Pistol		DEFENSE	34 Eagle, Nickel Personnel, Press-1
QB H.Iacuessa		***	LDE L.Shull	Rush Passer	+++
X(SE) L.Bush	Secondary, F Flat (0-4)	+++	NT B.Mathis	Rush Passer	+++
TE C.Bensen	Outlet, 3 Comeback (9-12)	+++	RDE K.Marquis	Rush Passer	+++
Z(FL) C.Hillhouse	Primary, 3 Comeback (9-12)	+++	SLB T.Rhodes	Short Zone	+++
RB G.Stewart	Outlet, W Wheel (9-18)	+++	SILB E.Montgomery	Short Zone	---
SLOT R.Spearman	Outlet, 1 Out (5-8)	+++	WLB K.Banks	Short Zone	---
LT D.Stehlik		+++	LCB K.Riordan	Bump and Run	+++
LG K.Sawyer		+++	RCB E.Munoz	Bump and Run	+++
C E.Hardman		+++	NB P.Henry	Bump and Run	+++
RG S.Rector		+++	SS C.Lyle	Double TE	+++
RT R.Morrison		+++	FS J.Leake	Deep Zone	+++

(4Q: 01:03) Extra point by Jordan Osorio was good. Dallas 14, Washington 13

...and at the end of the log, there's this:

Informal Player Pariticipation Grades

Dallas Plus Minus Grade OLB Nolan McGregor 9 0 100% WR Nate Newton 4 0 100% DE Johnathan Noyes 13 0 100% CB Luis Matthews 7 0 100% ILB Jon Sanderson 4 0 100% WR DeAndre Angel 6 0 100% CB Jerald Knudsen 4 0 100% CB Colton Lake 70 2 97% TE Cooper Bensen 48 2 96% S Ron Welch 43 2 96% CB Derrick Pegues 40 2 95% C Ethan Hardman 55 3 95% T Devan Stehlik 55 3 95% ILB Kyle Tubbs 70 5 93% DT Patrick Nowlin 41 3 93% DT J.R. Newhart 12 1 92% OLB Edgar Di Pardo 43 4 91% DT Ezra Page 63 6 91% G Kevin Sawyer 53 5 91% S Hector Gilliland 72 7 91% CB Joey Mayes 72 7 91% S C.J. Bonetta 31 3 91% DE Roger De Boer 60 6 91% WR Chris Hillhouse 47 5 90% OLB Graham Agustoni 62 7 90% WR Leslie Bush 50 6 89% G Sean Rector 51 7 88% DE Leon Kemp 58 8 88% DT Kelvin Hawkins 28 4 88% WR Rodolfo Spearman 33 5 87% RB Gilbert Stewart 19 4 83% T Rusty Morrison 47 11 81% TE Dominic Perrone 17 5 77% RB Dustin Weaver 26 8 76% RB Trent Eddings 3 1 75% TE A.J. Cherry 0 1 0%

Washington Plus Minus Grade WR Tanner Van Pelt 2 0 100% CB Erick Munoz 58 0 100% TE Kaleb Ding 9 0 100% WR Cory Whiting 1 0 100% RB Avery Norey 22 0 100% DE Zane Zeppelin 7 0 100% CB Kelly Riordan 57 1 98% RB Zane Ginsberg 45 1 98% DT Brayden Mathis 49 2 96% WR Ramon Durand 69 4 95% WR Randal Horton 66 4 94% G Chad Lang 74 5 94% S Caleb Lyle 41 3 93% OLB Sedrick Gray 13 1 93% S Terrence Wiegert 13 1 93% WR Marco Wayne 37 3 93% RB Austin Mills 25 2 93% T Lincoln Simmons 73 6 92% CB Dalton Reynolds 11 1 92% S Josiah Leake 53 5 91% ILB Howard Wells 19 2 90% CB Patrick Henry 27 3 90% T Isaiah Schultz 71 8 90% TE Sherman Gilmore 24 3 89% C Bo Titus 70 9 89% G Zachery Humphries 70 9 89% OLB Terrell Rhodes 47 6 89% OLB Kim Banks 39 5 89% DE Kaden Marquis 45 6 88% TE Drake McCants 68 10 87% ILB Emmitt Montgomery 46 7 87% DT Zach McDaniel 6 1 86% DE Johnathan Barrett 6 1 86% DE Lawrence Shull 43 8 84% OLB Albert Hernandez 4 1 80%

I had not scrolled all the way to the bottom of a log yet. Wow.

Yep, this is a nice addition to the game

That's awesome...but please tell me that info is stored somewhere (player cards? Maybe when you click into specific season stats to see each game?). Otherwise sounds like it's time for Ben to write a new script! :)

The SS doubling the TE is interesting to note.

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No kidding. Wow!

But yeah, that's gotta go on the player card somewhere!!! Please!!

Would be great if this could be added to player stats.

If it's per-play data, it may be in the Solevision logs, which also means that either they have new info I have to parse, or it's been there all along and totally missed. I'll try and poke around soon and see what I can extract.

Participation grades! That's cool.

Solevision has definitely changed. Relative structure is the same, but the individual records are different and need some figuring. The depth chart is longer than it was, and the individual play records are new. Both are expected, but I'm going to need time to figure out what they mean. May need to turn it into a groupthink just to churn through it in a reasonable timeframe - my son is playing Classic-level soccer now so my time is more limited than it used to be.

Am I the only one who's curious about why the LBs in short zones get dinged on a comeback by an outside WR who is supposed to be covered by a CB?

SWEET!

I always wondered how you could assess how well everyone was doing...now I can.

Possibly my favorite game update since OOTP added doubleheaders!

Sorry to be a dud here but the logs generated in my game has nothing like the above. just the normal text with addition of who draws the penaltys. is there an option to turn this on or ...well what am I missing here where did the above come from?

There is an option to turn it on, it's not by default. :)

Check your game settings.

CONTROLS --> Options --> Edit Single-Player Options.

There ya go!

THANK YOU!! I had looked at that but just couldn't see it, if you know what I mean :)

Dutch is correct, in the options you want to put yes for "Add detailed information to game logs".

Great new info! But wait, who effed up? The two guys in bold? It seems to me those guys might be the players who doubled-teamed a receiver. The play information says the QB threw away from double coverage, so how can two guys get burned in coverage?

2 YAC. Maybe missed tackle? Or I suppose it could be a "between the steams" kinda thing and neither helped like they should have.

EDIT: Or also, assuming the engine is similar to the past, maybe they screwed up on their assignments, causing someone else to have to lean in their direction. thus allowing the catch elsewhere? ("the center pancaked the MLB on that sweep and disorganized the defense" and all that...) I mean, my assumption is that every player gets a "did his job"/'did not do his job" dice roll on each play.

Yes, the game is weird that way. And I assume you've seen enough logs to rule out that the guys in bold were the ones who double-covered a receiver. I've only see this one and so far.

Edit: Oh, I see you're not going by the bold print but by the minuses. Yes, that makes sense.

I predict this line of questioning is going to get deep, in time. Even if the system is very good, we are bound to have quirks and questions that come up.

Oh, yeah. I bolded them myself; they're not like that in the log. The minuses are the key there.

Yes, this is what I am gathering, the --- looks like they either messed up or were dominated in their assignment. Looking at my own game logs, there are plays where I got positive yardage, but it appears that there were players that still messed up their assignments.

In this example, my QB Rivers passed for 7 yards but I am geeked on the info it gives here. While the LT and RB messed up their blocking assignments, the QB had enough time to recognize and throw away from the Primary WR who was double teamed. The Secondary Receiver, who was running a screen, caught the ball 5 yards past the line of scrimmage and got an additional 2 yards. In addition, the NT was not successful trying to rush the passer which may have given Rivers the time to find the secondary receiver:

2-12-SDO41 (1Q: 13:44) Philip Rivers pass completed to WR Dexter McCluster for 7 yards. Tackled by ILB Deone Bucannon, assisted by S Tony Jefferson. McCluster gained 2 yards after the catch. The quarterback threw away from the double coverage.

OFFENSE	221 Personnel, I formation		DEFENSE	34 Eagle, Regular Personnel, Press-2
QB P.Rivers		***	LDE C.Campbell	Rush Passer	+++
TE A.Gates	Outlet, 3 Comeback (9-12)	+++	NT X.Williams	Rush Passer	---
TE H.Henry	Primary, 3 Comeback (9-12)	+++	RDE R.Nkemdiche	Rush Passer	+++
Z(FL) D.McCluster	Secondary, S Screen (S)	+++	SLB C.Jones	Blitz Passer	+++
RB K.Farrow	Protect	---	SILB D.Bucannon	Short Zone	+++
FB D.Watt	Outlet, S Screen (S)	+++	WILB J.Bartu	Short Zone	+++
LT T.Burwell		---	WLB M.Golden	Double TE	+++
LG C.Watt		+++	LCB M.Jenkins	Bump and Run	+++
C M.Slauson		+++	RCB P.Peterson	Bump and Run	+++
RG D.Clark		+++	SS T.Branch	Deep Zone	+++
RT J.Barksdale		+++	FS T.Jefferson	Deep Zone	+++

In this example, the primary receiver could not get open and 3 of of the 5 lineman appear to have been dominated on the line of scrimmage which Carson Palmer to run for his life:

2-3-ARI42 (1Q: 04:16) Play-Action. Carson Palmer scrambled for 10 yards. Tackled by OLB Jeremiah Attaochu.

OFFENSE	113 Personnel, Pro formation		DEFENSE	34 Eagle, Nickel Personnel, Cover-1
QB C.Palmer		***	LDE J.Bosa	Rush Passer	+++
X(SE) L.Fitzgerald	Primary, 2 Slant (5-8)	---	NT B.Mebane	Rush Passer	+++
TE J.Gresham	Protect	+++	RDE C.Liuget	Rush Passer	+++
Z(FL) J.Brown	Secondary, 1 Out (5-8)	+++	SLB M.Ingram	Short Zone	+++
RB D.Johnson	Outlet, S Screen (S)	+++	SILB M.Te'o	Short Zone	+++
SLOT M.Floyd	Outlet, D Deep Fade (40+)	+++	WLB J.Attaochu	Man-to-Man	+++
LT J.Veldheer		---	LCB B.Flowers	Man-to-Man	+++
LG M.Iupati		---	RCB P.Desir	Man-to-Man	+++
C A.Shipley		+++	NB J.Verrett	Blitz Passer	+++
RG E.Mathis		+++	SS D.Lowery	Man-to-Man	+++
RT D.Humphries		---	FS D.Stuckey	Deep Zone	+++

Since all this info is in the logs, I can see Solevision being expanded and this is the type of info I have always wanted but we couldn't in previous iterations because of how it was designed.

What's really awesome about that second screen shot is how every defensive player did their job and they still gave up 10 yards. The QB simply made a great play. It happens.

I'll chime in with another thumbs up and agree that it would be very cool to have this tracked in game somewhere.

And as others have noted, I'm not sure this is meant to be a perfect proxy for "whose fault" anything was necessarily, although I'm sure that will often be the case. Trying to figure out which short zones these guys were covering with the offense in a trips formation and receivers running certain routes may very well be a useful exercise, but I'm not quite there yet. I just see it as a very simple coach's grade for how guys did their job on that play.

Okay so I was looking at the first play in the thread just to see if they were responsible and it just appears to me they just blew their assignments. It's just that the QB didn't see or take advantage of them.

1-10-WAS12 (4Q: 01:03) Harrison Iacuessa pass completed to WR Chris Hillhouse for 12 yards and a TOUCHDOWN! Hillhouse gained 2 yards after the catch. The quarterback threw away from the double coverage. Washington 13, Dallas 13

OFFENSE	113t Personnel, Weak formation, Pistol		DEFENSE	34 Eagle, Nickel Personnel, Press-1
QB H.Iacuessa		***	LDE L.Shull	Rush Passer	+++
X(SE) L.Bush	Secondary, F Flat (0-4)	+++	NT B.Mathis	Rush Passer	+++
TE C.Bensen	Outlet, 3 Comeback (9-12)	+++	RDE K.Marquis	Rush Passer	+++
Z(FL) C.Hillhouse	Primary, 3 Comeback (9-12)	+++	SLB T.Rhodes	Short Zone	+++
RB G.Stewart	Outlet, W Wheel (9-18)	+++	SILB E.Montgomery	Short Zone	---
SLOT R.Spearman	Outlet, 1 Out (5-8)	+++	WLB K.Banks	Short Zone	---
LT D.Stehlik		+++	LCB K.Riordan	Bump and Run	+++
LG K.Sawyer		+++	RCB E.Munoz	Bump and Run	+++
C E.Hardman		+++	NB P.Henry	Bump and Run	+++
RG S.Rector		+++	SS C.Lyle	Double TE	+++
RT R.Morrison		+++	FS J.Leake	Deep Zone	+++

(4Q: 01:03) Extra point by Jordan Osorio was good. Dallas 14, Washington 13

To illustrate, here is what that exact play look like:


What I love about the new game is that I can just design the exact play above easily in the play designer. As you will notice it is 113t which is the equivalent of 1 running back, 1 tight end, 3 receivers and it is weighted on the strong side of the formation (trips).

In the above each of the CBs did their assignments well which is why they don't have a negative. Here is what an eagle 3/4 Nickel roughly looks like:


Since this is a trips formation on offense, that means that slot (SL) receiver moves to the strong side of the formation (where the TE is). In addition, since this is Bump and Run Coverage, that means all 3 CB were up at the line of scrimmage.

Looking at the above and comparing it to the play, it is most likely the SLB (the O above the TE) covered the TE in the zone and the Safety helped to double team him. That leaves a RB open and their was most likely confusion on who to cover which made them blow their assignments but the QB didn't go that direction.

So what I am saying is that the Touchdown happened due to a well executed play that was well defensed. Now it can be sort of be indirectly involved, I guess, since there were two blown assignments, but I am leaning towards the former.

The reason I am leaning towards this conclusion is because I see other entries in the logs in which there is a passing TD not due to blown coverage. In the example below, the CB was not successful on the blitz. While we can conclude that not getting pressure on the QB helps the offense, we cannot say he is directly at fault for the TD. A well executed play (good route running, good pass) plus good personnel can still win out.

Example:
2-3-CAR03 (1Q: 07:57) Joe Flacco pass completed to WR Keenan Reynolds for 3 yards and a TOUCHDOWN! Baltimore 6, Carolina 0

OFFENSE	113t Personnel, I formation		DEFENSE	43 Under, Nickel Personnel, Cover-2
QB J.Flacco		***	LDE K.Ealy	Rush Passer	+++
X(SE) M.Wallace	Secondary, 7 Corner (19-26)	+++	1tcDT K.Short	Rush Passer	+++
TE D.Pitta	Outlet, 5 Deep Out (13-18)	+++	RDE S.Lotulelei	Rush Passer	+++
Z(FL) B.Perriman	Outlet, S Screen (S)	+++	SLB C.Johnson	Short Zone	+++
RB T.West	Outlet, S Screen (S)	+++	SILB L.Kuechly	Short Zone	+++
SLOT K.Reynolds	Primary, F Flat (0-4)	+++	WLB J.Norris	Short Zone	+++
LT R.Stanley		+++	LCB R.McClain	Man-to-Man	+++
LG A.Lewis		+++	RCB J.Bradberry	Man-to-Man	+++
C J.Zuttah		+++	NB D.Worley	Blitz Passer	---
RG M.Yanda		+++	SS M.Griffin	Deep Zone	+++
RT J.Hurst		+++	FS K.Coleman	Deep Zone	+++

By the way, I highly suggest downloading those PDFs off the site. They help explain a lot and get me a bit giddy every time I play. Here is an example of what the routes are (strong side of formation, flip when it is on the weak side):


Heck, if you just use that when viewing the game logs, it will help you see the routes each receiver is taking with just the number alone. Example when you see this in the game log - Secondary, 7 Corner (19-26) - you are just looking at number 7 on the graph to get a visual of the route.

Oh and I found one play with no --- that went for a touchdown:

1-10-LAS25 (1Q: 15:00) Case Keenum pass completed to WR Kenny Britt for 3 yards. Tackled by S J.J. Wilcox, assisted by CB Brandon Carr. The quarterback threw away from the double coverage.

OFFENSE	113 Personnel, Weak formation		DEFENSE	43 Under, Nickel Personnel, Press-1
QB C.Keenum		***	LDE B.Mayowa	Rush Passer	+++
X(SE) T.Austin	Outlet, S Screen (S)	+++	1tcDT T.Crawford	Rush Passer	+++
TE T.Higbee	Outlet, 2 Slant (5-8)	+++	RDE C.Thornton	Rush Passer	+++
Z(FL) K.Britt	Primary, 2 Slant (5-8)	+++	SLB D.Lawrence	Short Zone	+++
RB T.Gurley	Protect	+++	SILB R.McClain	Double X(SE)	+++
SLOT M.Thomas	Secondary, 2 Slant (5-8)	+++	WLB K.Wilber	Bump and Run	+++
LT R.Havenstein		+++	LCB B.Carr	Bump and Run	+++
LG R.Saffold		+++	RCB O.Scandrick	Bump and Run	+++
C T.Barnes		+++	NB M.Claiborne	Blitz Passer	+++
RG C.Wichmann		+++	SS B.Church	Bump and Run	+++
RT E.Wannamaker		+++	FS J.Wilcox	Deep Zone	+++

Ooops....wrong play. The above was a standard play for short yardage. Here is the one I was referring to:
1-10-HOU17 (3Q: 08:29) Colin Kaepernick pass completed to WR Keshawn Martin for 17 yards and a TOUCHDOWN! Martin gained 18 yards after the catch. The quarterback threw away from the double coverage. San Francisco 15, Houston 0

OFFENSE	212 Personnel, Pro formation		DEFENSE	True 34, Regular Personnel, Cover-2
QB C.Kaepernick		***	LDE J.Heath	Rush Passer	+++
X(SE) K.Martin	Primary, S Screen (S)	+++	NT D.Reader	Spy on QB	+++
TE G.Celek	Outlet, W Wheel (9-18)	+++	RDE C.Covington	Rush Passer	+++
Z(FL) T.Smith	Outlet, D Deep Fade (40+)	+++	SLB W.Mercilus	Short Zone	+++
RB S.Draughn	Secondary, 2 Slant (5-8)	+++	SILB A.Dent	Short Zone	+++
FB D.Harris	Outlet, 0 Dig (0-4)	+++	WILB B.Peters	Man-to-Man	+++
LT J.Staley		+++	WLB B.Scarlett	Spy on QB	+++
LG Z.Beadles		+++	LCB K.Johnson	Spy on QB	+++
C D.Kilgore		+++	RCB A.Bouye	Man-to-Man	+++
RG A.Tiller		+++	SS E.Pleasant	Double Z(FL)	+++
RT T.Brown		+++	FS A.Hal	Deep Zone	+++

Thanks for explaining the numbers on the route tree corresponding with info in the log. That's so cool. Really will help visualize the game log.

I am spending enormous amounts of time parsing these logs. There is gold in them hills....

I've spent a 'very' little time with FOF7 and that's about it, but this feature has pretty much guaranteed I get this once a couple of issues are sorted. Very impressive.

I want this in the Exports...we see all these future columns just waiting for info and this player data on game +++ and --- would be perfect.

What is your worst defensive/offensive play you have seen? I had a 14 yard run go against me where the safety made the tackle. There were negative grades for 2 DL, 2 LB and 1 CB (all on the side the run took place) Essentially, the entire left side of my defense exploded.

Tom Brady musta been lead blocking over there on that side. :D

Too bad none of this is kept track of in the player cards. I'm going to have to have several notebooks to keep track of how well everyone is doing. Yuck...writing.

An extra stat along the lines of '% cock-ups' would be great.

Stat name might need some refining I guess.

This was my thinking too. It if could be done add 2 columns to the player's individual game stat screen, I can figure the percent on my own.

Me too! I'm gonna order one of these:



Comes with a stylus even!

[quote=Antmeister;3131569]Oh and I found one play with no --- that went for a touchdown:

1-10-LAS25 (1Q: 15:00) Case Keenum pass completed to WR Kenny Britt for 3 yards. Tackled by S J.J. Wilcox, assisted by CB Brandon Carr. The quarterback threw away from the double coverage.

OFFENSE	113 Personnel, Weak formation		DEFENSE	43 Under, Nickel Personnel, Press-1
QB C.Keenum		***	LDE B.Mayowa	Rush Passer	+++
X(SE) T.Austin	Outlet, S Screen (S)	+++	1tcDT T.Crawford	Rush Passer	+++
TE T.Higbee	Outlet, 2 Slant (5-8)	+++	RDE C.Thornton	Rush Passer	+++
Z(FL) K.Britt	Primary, 2 Slant (5-8)	+++	SLB D.Lawrence	Short Zone	+++
RB T.Gurley	Protect	+++	SILB R.McClain	Double X(SE)	+++
SLOT M.Thomas	Secondary, 2 Slant (5-8)	+++	WLB K.Wilber	Bump and Run	+++
LT R.Havenstein		+++	LCB B.Carr	Bump and Run	+++
LG R.Saffold		+++	RCB O.Scandrick	Bump and Run	+++
C T.Barnes		+++	NB M.Claiborne	Blitz Passer	+++
RG C.Wichmann		+++	SS B.Church	Bump and Run	+++
RT E.Wannamaker		+++	FS J.Wilcox	Deep Zone	+++

1-10-HOU17 (3Q: 08:29) Colin Kaepernick pass completed to WR Keshawn Martin for 17 yards and a TOUCHDOWN! Martin gained 18 yards after the catch. The quarterback threw away from the double coverage. San Francisco 15, Houston 0

OFFENSE	212 Personnel, Pro formation		DEFENSE	True 34, Regular Personnel, Cover-2
QB C.Kaepernick		***	LDE J.Heath	Rush Passer	+++
X(SE) K.Martin	Primary, S Screen (S)	+++	NT D.Reader	Spy on QB	+++
TE G.Celek	Outlet, W Wheel (9-18)	+++	RDE C.Covington	Rush Passer	+++
Z(FL) T.Smith	Outlet, D Deep Fade (40+)	+++	SLB W.Mercilus	Short Zone	+++
RB S.Draughn	Secondary, 2 Slant (5-8)	+++	SILB A.Dent	Short Zone	+++
FB D.Harris	Outlet, 0 Dig (0-4)	+++	WILB B.Peters	Man-to-Man	+++
LT J.Staley		+++	WLB B.Scarlett	Spy on QB	+++
LG Z.Beadles		+++	LCB K.Johnson	Spy on QB	+++
C D.Kilgore		+++	RCB A.Bouye	Man-to-Man	+++
RG A.Tiller		+++	SS E.Pleasant	Double Z(FL)	+++
RT T.Brown		+++	FS A.Hal	Deep Zone	+++

I used Antmeister's post to highlight something I would like to see in the game log. The play result in a contrasting color to the detailed player performance section. Too me it would make it much easier when reading through a game log breaking it up a bit lessening eye strain.

Put me on team "find a way to get this info on the player card"

What does everyone think is a good threshold for negative ratings? Not that negative is good. Maybe, what's acceptable. 80%, 75%, 70% and below?

I'm thinking "acceptable" is probably around 90% and "good" is 95%. I've been meaning to copy/paste some logs from maybe 20 wins and see what the average is in those.

Thanks Ben. Looks like my boys need to step it up a bit. Too many guys 85% and below.

At first quick glance even that is too low. it looks like somewhere around 91.5% is an average performance score.

Well, there's going to be some guys getting familiar with the bench if they don't pick it up. Thanks again.

One thing of note here. . . don't forget to take in the amount of HUGE plays a guy makes or the amount of horrible plays a guy makes.

My first game of the season, I have a lineman rotation battle going on. Both guys got between 35 and 40 plays. One guy had a 96% rating, the other guy 75%.

The 75% guy also had 1 sack, a forced fumble and generated 4 QB hurries. The 96% guy had zero explosive plays.

Obviously, there is more information to see and one game doesn't make or break a guy. . . but if the numbers stayed the way they are, I'll gladly take Mr. 75% in exchange for the game changing plays.

Did we find a way to get this data consolidated using some sort of utility? Or, is the combined data stored somewhere? If I knew where to easily access the data, I suppose I could use a spreadsheet to combine it...

Also, did we determine how useful/important the data was to the player's value?

You can use excel to compile it, you need to know a little bit of advanced formulas though.

does this only display on fof8 but not on 7 as I cannot find it

Yeah, I can do it, but do I need to copy and paste the data off of the html from each individual log? Or is there a way to get all the information for each player into one place easier?


I can't remember if it was added near the end of fof7 (before fof8 came out) or not, but there is an option to turn on detail logs somewhere. Let me know if you can't find it and I will take a looksie myself.

I cannot find it, it only offers you a chance to show formations and not player contributions to a play