I'm going to shift my Entukku temptation in keeping with the working group theory that's bouncing around...

unvote Zinto
vote saldana

Vote Count:

6 - cheekimonk - EagleFan (516), fontisian (599), saldana (621), Zinto (711), JAG (713), Grover (718)
4 - fontisian - path12 (588), cheekimonk (589), Suicane75 (696), Chief Rum (696)
1 - saldana - britrock88 (751)

unvote cheek

Vote font

Yes, I'm a dirty flip-flopper, but I want to see what happens with the votes equal.

unvote cheek
vote fontisian

i had her as my vote yesterday and would have been my vote today, but with the double reveal, someone has to be lying, and there are more things leaning towards her side of the scale for me than his.

she has basically named every person in the game as a wolf at some point

her little chart from yesterday is filled with statistical bias, first and foremost of which, it doesnt include her

she counter claimed a role that could not be confirmed except by doing what she wants

all those things scream wolf to me

Say anyone else counterclaimed this role. Would either of you feel differently?

Guys, guys. The time to do that is ten seconds before the deadline.

probably, yes...it jumps out at me more because i already suspected her.

ugh, now we are letting the wolves run the vote?

Vote Count (755):

6 - fontisian - path12 (588), cheekimonk (589), Suicane75 (696), Chief Rum (696), Grover (753), saldana (754)
4 - cheekimonk - EagleFan (516), fontisian (599), Zinto (711), JAG (713)
1 - saldana - britrock88 (751)

No vote: HomerSimpson98

i forgot to add to my list of reasons that she is 2 for 2 on villager lynches, including vehemently driving the one yesterday.

She did urge the group to finish a Raven lynch in a situation where there was some doubt about the lynchee, yes. But a good reason for pushing that was that Raven had already claimed villager by then. The loss of a known villager is better than the potential loss of a roled villager.

Why would a wolf put themselves out there with a counter at that point? That would scream a desperation move and the wolves have been in control.

There is more than enough proof against cheek. But I can see why saldana would ignore that, being cheek's team-mate.

[quote=saldana;30096511.she has basically named every person in the game as a wolf at some point

2.her little chart from yesterday is filled with statistical bias, first and foremost of which, it doesnt include her

3.she counter claimed a role that could not be confirmed except by doing what she wants

all those things scream wolf to me[/quote]
Numbered for your convenience.

1.False. I've called more people town than scum.

2.Why would I put myself in a chart I made for my own convenience? I didn't even know I could post it here when I was making it. And what statistical bias? You haven't even asked about any specific grouping.

3.Again. Why would I have countered Cheek instead of claiming Rowena and outing the seer?

Would really love to get Pat or Sui back into the thread. I have a growing sense that they're town and that they're misjudging Font.

And this is also bull. I only voted for GE because I was forced to, and I never pushed him as scum.

This reeks

vote cheeki

Font's third point is an important one.

6-6 now.

Thank you homer. Brit, if none of them come back and switch, you're going to have to tie it up and hope for the best.

I'm with ya. :)

Heh. Nice.

While we're talking about fun things, the other thing pointing to Grover being scum is Cheek's comment about being "the target du jour." I get the impression he was in contact with Grover when I was going after him.

You want to see what happens with a tie vote? What?

By that, I wanted to see who maneuvers by changing their vote to force a lynch.

It was saldana and you. There, experiment over.

Not the best time to try that approach.

It's looking like we lose this game. Good game and good luck village.

yeah, because if we were coordinating a switch, we would absolutely both post our votes within a minute of each other...the probability that we both posted at the same time completely independent of one another should not be considered.

I'm standing on cheek

Welp, I'm still learning the game. I seem to do better with the more complicated setup.

If a tie kills both, that's better for the village than just losing a townie. No reason for a townie to move off there.

If a tie kills one or the other, then it's up to chance.

If a tie kills someone else... ???

We'll see how the tie goes. Looks like I die, cheek dies, and EF and another dies tonight, bringing us to 5-3. So, not an instaloss. The seer should claim first thing tomorrow and drop all useful info.

Just that we are sitting close to end game with a bad lynch. Giving the wolves a chance to manipulate that lynch is very risky.

I forced the tie thinking someone would break it. That happened.

Grover. If you are town, switch.

Why should I put absolute trust in you? You've railed August me from the start because I made one post that want completely accurate. I do not trust you.

She may have done wrong by you, but that doesn't mean you're not after the same thing--hunting down wolves.

Because the train on me is fishy and the townfirmed player is telling you too. If you're town, you are actively aiding scum here and you will get lynched for it.

Take a quick peek at who's voting whom and see how you feel, Grover.

This is your chance to prove me wrong, man. All you have to do is switch.

I hope you're right and I'm grievously wrong.

you better hope you are right grover.

I don't really feel that great...

alright then! way to go grover! :)